The Nineteenth Byte

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

16:00

@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ a deleted message will do that

zyabin101

I did make a message that pinged the second autocomplete choice for each of @M, @D, @D and @A, but I deleted it.

Because it was just for fun.

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

Oh. Weird that it would notify me of that.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

It pings you immediately, can't unping.

Doorknob

@zyabin101 "fun"

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

Yeah, but it was an hour ago.

zyabin101

16:02

@Doorknob >_<

runs away

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

Anyway, good morning TNB!

Apparently you hit a cool message number while I was away. -_-

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

no we didn't

30,000 went to a different chatroom.

but @VTCAKAVSMoACE got 29,999

Lynn

Augh, ignore that watermark.

But, this is how I died.

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ :(

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

htf is a cockatrice a 1

@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ ikr

VTC is mean. :/

Lynn

16:05

Walk into a cockatrice around a corner → hit it before even registering what it is → dead

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ wow

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Actually, 29,999,999th.

zyabin101

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Estouro de phila! (/>_<)/ _|__|_

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@VTCAKAVSMoACE you should have said burrito for the message

zyabin101

in Estouro de Pilha, 2 hours ago, by Guilherme Nascimento

@joaopaulosantosalmeida O java te contaminou mesmo, é "censura" e não "sensura"? :P (sorry tive que corrigir)

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Lynn why did warning say a cockatrice was a 1 though?

seems unfair imo

Lynn

16:07

Everything about NetHack is stupid and unfair and badly designed. (Disclaimer: I like it.)

quartata

@Lynn Damn, that's sad. In SLASH'EM I think if you're polymorphed into a flayer they won't actually eat a cockatrice

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Lynn nethack is wonderfully designed

quartata

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Because the number is the monster's hit dice

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

and of course VTC tests his dubstep

@quartata oh, TIL.

Lynn

Does anyone want to watch my play more NetHack (or SLASH'EM) live? :D

zyabin101

16:09

@Lynn Yes?

quartata

Yeah, it would be cool if it was MONSTR instead of hit dice

VTCAKAVSMoACE

zyabin101

You are on twitch? You are on NAO? You are on ascension.run?

quartata

Cockatrices are only a 7 apparently though :/

zyabin101

The first I can't watch.

Lynn

16:10

telnet termcast.org

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

> telnet

use ssh

quartata

@zyabin101 Why can't you watch Twitch?

zyabin101

@quartata I don't have Flash.

Lynn

I’ll be on ssh [email protected] soon, if anyone prefers that

quartata

Oh

zyabin101

16:10

I can't have Flash.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Lynn if you like slashem, try dNethack.

Lynn

Or, just [email protected] I guess?

zyabin101

And I'm lazy to download Livestreamer just to watch it.

quartata

Yeah the only reason I have Flash is because of Twitch

Lynn

I don’t really like either ;w;

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

16:11

why not?

quartata

I don't like SLASH'EM actually

Lynn

(I have my own variant that I’m making, sort of!!)

zyabin101

@Lynn I prefer ascension.run :P

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

> ;w;

that's a new one

@zyabin101 ...

Lynn

@zyabin101 kerio changed its name again???

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

16:11

yes

and made adeon buy it for him. :P

zyabin101

@Lynn Yes :P

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@Lynn Oooh, how soon?

zyabin101

They liked nethack.dank.ninja, but it was out of trend, so now they have ascension.run.

Lynn

Aaaaand I’m live.

zyabin101

Also, @Lynn I'm interested in your special config. Care to share your defaults.nh file soon?

Just a min, let me find the puttytel...

VTCAKAVSMoACE

16:13

I don't understand what's going on. :D

orlp

what is slashem?

quartata

A variant of Nethack

> Super Lotsa Added Stuff Hack - Extended Magic

zyabin101

Dardi dardi doh!

Byte Commander

Hi guys.

orlp

you can only watch? not chat?

VTCAKAVSMoACE

16:15

Can anybody look over the pdf of my AP Calc final paper? It's just discussing various aspects of the Gamma function.

orlp

@Lynn oh no it bit you

quartata

@orlp You can send messages to the player but don't do it often

This annoying mailman shows up in game

orlp

@quartata how?

quartata

Although actually I think that might be an NAO only thing? Don't remember

orlp

also did he just eat a dog?

quartata

16:16

@orlp yes

Jackal I presume

(I'm not actually watching right now)

zyabin101

@Lynn Which stream?

There are two streams from user "lynn".

Byte Commander

There's this question about translating a string into large ASCII art font: codegolf.stackexchange.com/q/80940/36188 - it got closed as duplicate while I was composing an answer. Can you please recheck whether it is really a duplicate? I feel they are different enough to reopen this one, but I don't have that privilege yet.

Lynn

The non-idle one

orlp

@Lynn how long have you played this game? you seem to be going pretty fast

Byte Commander

(@Lynn you were the one who closed the above question ^)

quartata

16:17

@Lynn Uhh call me stupid but I don't see your game

What server are you on?

Oh, slashem.me

orlp

ssh [email protected]

Lynn

@ByteCommander Hi! Sorry about that. I wasn’t really sure, yeah. I think I’ll reopen it and let others decide.

Byte Commander

Thank you! :)

zyabin101

Hmm, @Lynn stream is idle.

Lynn

I don’t like the gold-tag-badge, instantly-close-duplicates thing very much

zyabin101

16:19

You just moved to slashem.me?

Lynn

I just realized I’m not actually termcasting O_o

quartata

@zyabin101 because people keep pinging her

zyabin101

C'mon, we're not watching. Don't worry.

orlp

@Lynn how long have you played this game? you seem to be going pretty fast

Lynn

Oh! Um, like half my life :D

orlp

16:21

that could be anywhere from 5 to 50 years :P

Lynn

On and off, I suppose it’s roughly 10 years by now. Jeez.

I’d say I’ve won about 30 times?

orlp

that little?

quartata

Nethack is extremely hard

orlp

damn that's a rough win/loss ratio

quartata

Ascending is considered a rarity

orlp

16:23

but is it hard or just unlikely?

quartata

Hard

orlp

can a skilled player ascend 100% of the time?

Lynn

These days I guess my win rate is like 10%?

zyabin101

@Lynn how can I stream to termcast.org with Windows?

Lynn

I’ve won 3 games in a row, once.

quartata

16:23

@orlp Theoretically, yes?

There is some elements of RNG obviously

But strategies like pudding farming can make ascensions fairly consistent if you're really really good

Lynn

@zyabin101 Try PuTTYtel.exe

zyabin101

@Lynn That's for viewing streams.

Lynn

Oh, like, start a stream there.

zyabin101

@Lynn Yup.

Lynn

I don’t know. I use Cygwin, which is the nuclear option here

zyabin101

16:25

I'm on Windows.

orlp

any of you guys play path of exile?

quartata

Oh nice an altar

lucky

VTCAKAVSMoACE

11 mins ago, by VTCAKAVSMoACE

Can anybody look over the pdf of my AP Calc final paper? It's just discussing various aspects of the Gamma function.

I guess that's a no? :P

orlp

I mean

what do you want?

I could say 'I looked at it' and that wouldn't help you very much, would it :P

VTCAKAVSMoACE

Just, like, did I make any blaring grammatical or mathematical errors?

orlp

16:28

you made a blaring typographical error

훤1=1푎푛푑Γ푛+1=Γ푛∗푛

lol nice copy/paste google chrome...

@VTCAKAVSMoACE the first line after "we wish to show that..."

you write "and"

zyabin101

@Lynn But the guide to streaming on termcast via Cygwin is missing.

orlp

but it's typeset wrong

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@orlp Oh, whoops, thanks.

quartata

@Lynn What happened to your pet? I saw you engrave an Elbereth and it ran away. Was it confused?

Lynn

@zyabin101 Ah, you just need the right packages

orlp

16:30

@VTCAKAVSMoACE happens in multiple places, also for "so" and "let"

Sp3000

@VTCAKAVSMoACE I'd put the definition of the gamma function somewhere before you start saying "Prove gamma(n) = (n-1)!", personally

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@orlp Weird, it's right on my word document. I think this might be an exportation problem, I'm gonna try to fix it.

@Sp3000 Aight.

Lynn

@zyabin101 script -f >( cat ~/.ratry_login - | nc -q5 noway.ratry.ru 31337 > /dev/null )

orlp

@VTCAKAVSMoACE word?

really?

Lynn

Where ~/.ratry_login is one line, hello username password

orlp

16:32

you really need to learn and/or start using latex

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@orlp (required by teacher)

quartata

@VTCAKAVSMoACE Are you using LaTeX? I assumed you had something like $and ....$

Oh, sumo'd ish

orlp

@VTCAKAVSMoACE your teacher is a fraud

Sp3000

I was going to comment that the biggest problem was that it's not LaTeX, but I let that slide :P

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@orlp I know Latex, I just can't use it.

@orlp wow

quartata

16:32

@VTCAKAVSMoACE he'll never know just use it

Sp3000

(although it's a bit weird seeing the star for multiplication rather than cdot)

quartata

latex is perfection

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@quartata kek, okay then.

orlp

@VTCAKAVSMoACE I'm not even kidding

the fact that he requires students to use suboptimal tools that will hurt them (if not re-educated) for the rest of their academic career shows that he is in no position to teach

Sp3000

@VTCAKAVSMoACE At "Since gamma(n+1) = n gamma(n) and gamma(1) = 1", you can golf out a few lines by namedropping "induction" somewhere :P

btw is this high school or university/college?

quartata

16:35

@orlp It's probably some school policy thing that submissions have to be done as a Word document

I've heard more ridiculous things

orlp

@quartata the same reasoning applies

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@orlp To be fair, it's the only time we've actually used a computer and it's only for... ^^^

quartata

@Sp3000 I believe VTC is in high school

VTCAKAVSMoACE

^

quartata

@orlp In that case it's not really the teacher's fault though...

VTCAKAVSMoACE

16:37

@Sp3000 Teacher asked me to leave it like this as some fellow students are reading it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Sp3000

shrugs

quartata

@VTCAKAVSMoACE ....and they don't know what induction is?

Sp3000

If it's high school then I don't find the Word requirement that surprising tbh

zyabin101

How to read a password into an environment variable so that it doesn't appear on the screen in bash?

quartata

@zyabin101 If this is for Travis use a secure environment variable instead

VTCAKAVSMoACE

16:38

@quartata They do, it's just showing that the factorial is involved through the steps.

@zyabin101 read -s PASSWD

zyabin101

@VTCAKAVSMoACE Danke schon.

orlp

now I'm puzzled

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@zyabin101 Stored in a variable called PASSWD, it's not secure, though, because anyone can echo it (in the same session, of course).

orlp

why does Gamma subtract 1 from it's argument?

quartata

@VTCAKAVSMoACE this is the right way to do it yeah but if he's doing this for Travis he really should be using a secure environment variable in his .travis.yml instead

orlp

16:39

it shows that without subtracting its integral is also more fundamental

e^-t * t^x

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@orlp It's how Euler wrote it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Lynn

Oops.

VTCAKAVSMoACE

RIP

Lynn

I died very quickly to something.

VTCAKAVSMoACE

Orc.

Lynn

16:43

Aha

quartata

It was a jaguar

orlp

@Lynn nooooo

:(

zyabin101

I temporarily appeared on termcast. Actually, I wasn't streaming. Sorry. :P

Lynn

Less crushing than dying after 4+ hours!

Or 8+ hours, when you’re playing Crawl.

zyabin101

@Lynn Crawl?

Dungeon Crawl?

Lynn

16:46

Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup

zyabin101

Yup.

Sp3000

@orlp I get the feeling it's probably to do with the domain of the gamma function, so that it starts at 0?

zyabin101

I don't know how to run ttyrec while ttrtail is running in the same session.

Bálint

I'm dumb, Instead of replacing the spaces in a string, then split it, then sort the array by length, I first split it, then I loop trough the array, replace every spaces in each element, then I sorted it

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@orlp @quartata @Sp3000 Alright, fixed typeset issue and replaced the star operators, anything else?

(you should be able to just reload the document)

Lynn

16:49

@VTCAKAVSMoACE Section headers can change a lot.

zyabin101

:D TermCast works!

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@Lynn Whaddya mean?

zyabin101

From now on, you may now be seeing me as user "zyabin101".

Also, did someone see me transmitting a "Hello, World!" message?

Lynn

@VTCAKAVSMoACE Right now it just… starts, and then there’s a bunch of equations, and then it’s over, you know? It could use some structure, I feel

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@Lynn Fair enough. :P I'm limited to 4-6 pages, so there was a lot of shuffling around going on. I'll put some stuff in the headers.

Lynn

16:54

Also, right now at least, the pdf looks really messed up for me

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@Lynn Screenshot?

zyabin101

:( So, no one did watch my TermCast stream?

Lynn

The lim (→+ and stuff

El'endia Starman

@zyabin101 It works perfectly fine for me. Permalink?

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@Lynn Woah, weird.

Sp3000

16:55

Weird, looks fine to me o_O

VTCAKAVSMoACE

CentOS with Chrome, right?

zyabin101

@El'endiaStarman A broken image is worth a thousand permalinks.

2

Lynn

Oh, it was Dropbox’s weird PDF previewer

El'endia Starman

@zyabin101 Sorry then, can't help ya. Deal with it.

zyabin101

Hmm, did someone watch the TermCast streamer ancardia?

I'm interested, which game is it?

Lynn

16:57

@VTCAKAVSMoACE Re: page 3, I would compute Γ(5) = 4! or something

@zyabin101: that’s ADOM

Sp3000

@VTCAKAVSMoACE Out of curiosity, were you going to add more detail to the gamma(1/2) proof?

zyabin101

And nikheizen plays which game?

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@Sp3000 No, why?

Helka Homba

Shouldn't you guys be FGITWing? :I

VTCAKAVSMoACE

Sp3000

16:59

@VTCAKAVSMoACE Wasn't sure whether you guys do polar coords in high school or not (over here it's first year uni material)

El'endia Starman

@VTCAKAVSMoACE :D

zyabin101

@HelkaHomba Which challenge to FGITW?

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@Sp3000 The guy just before me is doing that exact integral, not the Gamma, but the e^-x^2, as his entire project.

I can get away with it, already conferred with the teacher.

Helka Homba

@zyabin101 It'll pop up shortly. I don't want to give Alex an excuse to talk about avocados in all caps.

New Main Posts

0

Q: Stack Exchanging

Problem Say you have N stacks named S1 through SN, where each Sk (k = 1 to N) contains N copies of the number k. For example, when N = 3 the stacks looks like this: 1 2 3 <- top of stack 1 2 3 1 2 3 <- bottom of stack ======= 1 2 3 <- stack index Here there are 3 stacks indexed as...

Helka Homba

17:00

right on cue

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@Sp3000 And yes, it's a topic in Advanced Math Seminar (post-AP course).

Lynn

@zyabin101 Poschengband

Sp3000

Right, just checkin' :P (different countries learn things in different orders I find)

zyabin101

@Lynn o_o

Sp3000

@NewMainPosts Tower of Hanoi, deluxe edition?

Helka Homba

17:02

@Sp3000 Are your world maps upside-down?

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@Sp3000 It's definitely not something that most kids graduating from our school learn, but considering that both a student before me is presenting on that exact integral and that about half of the students in said class are in Adv. Math Sem., I'll be fine. ;P

Sp3000

@HelkaHomba Some, for geography teachers feeling a little hipster

Helka Homba

@Sp3000 Kinda. It's less interesting than I had hoped actually :|

Bálint

@Sp3000 My math teacher said, we will mention (!) it on Math facultats (!!), but we only going to learn about it in private lessons

@Sp3000 I wanted to say the same :P

Sp3000

@VTCAKAVSMoACE Okay, if you say so :P

Helka Homba

17:06

@zyabin101 Aren't chat message ids shared throughout all of SE chat?

zyabin101

@HelkaHomba Yes.

Helka Homba

Or did we get the actual one

Sp3000

For some reason, my first thought for that problem probably won't terminate any time soon for N=3

flawr

Guys, this is sick:

4

zyabin101

@HelkaHomba We really got Message No. 29999999! :P

flawr

17:07

source

Lynn

@HelkaHomba: Is “making random valid moves from a set seed” a valid answer?

To this stacky thing

zyabin101

:O Just look at the TermCast SplatTV stream!

He has made way more progress than all of us!

Helka Homba

@Lynn Er I suppose, since it would be deterministic. But could you be sure the randomness was good enough that the answer would always be finite?

Especially for larger N

Lynn

@zyabin SplatTV is a termcast channel that streams old recordings of deaths

Late in the game

zyabin101

:(

But still, he in have

heh

But still, he has made very much progress :O

Also, @Lynn it's surprising that you know these channels.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

17:13

@VTCAKAVSMoACE do you play nethack?

@flawr definitely

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Nupe.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

okay

you should

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@Lynn Section headers added.

And page numbers. :P

Lynn

Yay!

zyabin101

@Lynn care to share your defaults.nh file?

Lynn

17:15

It’s somewhere on the server

slashem.me/userdata/lynn/nethack/lynn.nh360rc It’s a mess right now

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Lynn you chose not to hide "you fall down the stairs"?

Lynn

It’s a good reminder to never be burdened!

zyabin101

:D :D :D Lynn's streaming again!

?|?.

What was written on there? >_>

There was a candle there... >_>

flawr

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Made a challenge out of it: meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/9290/24877

@Lynn strawpoll It's vs Its vs Its

Lynn

17:31

Note that ‘ ` ' ’ ´ are all different.

wizzwizz4

bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/3QxQxP4kj8nQdTN01VwBrsp/…

flawr

@Lynn Whaat, I knew only three of them.

Lynn

flawr

@Lynn Well one is the single quote, one is the accent aigu, the other one the accent grave. What are the other two?

Bálint

@Lynn I'm not sure how you did either the middle strafing ones, or the outer ones

These are what I can find on my computer and go in the upper "slot":

> ` ´ ¨ ° ' " ^ ˇ ˘ ˝

flawr

17:37

@Bálint hungarians

zyabin101

The jaguar turns to flee. @Lynn what's next? >_>

New Sandboxed Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Self referential polynomials code-golfmathnumberpolynomial For every given degree n it is possible to construct (at least one) an integral polynomial p such that p(k) (p evaluated in k) is the coefficient of the term x^k in the polynomial for all 0 <= k <= n. To make them unique, we require the...

Bálint

@flawr Don't worry, we don't use any of those things

I don't think there's a word in any language (except for languages with different symbols, like chinese or japanes or arabian), I can't write down

zyabin101

@Bálint Play "Adventure" interactive fiction in the Sandbox? :3

Bálint

@zyabin101 Sorry, I'm only here because I'm waiting for something to go from one drive to the another

zyabin101

17:39

@Bálint :(

Bálint

We even have a fricking sweden sun thing: ¤

flawr

Are you using a specific hungarian keyboardd?

zyabin101

For those wondering: We were playing "When in Rome: Accounting for Taste" and "Adventure" in the Sandbox.

Also, I'm going to show moar examples of Inform 7 (link to chat room).

Come there if you want to see them because I won't show any more in the Nineteenth Byte.

I won't show the examples if no one comes. >_> C'mon, we have to make the room worth retaining.

Inform 7

Discussion for inform7.com | Inform 7, a design system for int...

orlp

kung fu cat

i.imgur.com/ooJSoAa.gifv

oh oh

zyabin101

So, no one ever will come to the Inform 7 room and I'll never show the examples. The room will never be worth retaining and be deleted in six days.

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

17:50

@orlp That's honestly terrifying.

@zyabin101 Why would you threaten yourself?

zyabin101

@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ Because I must show the examples.

flawr

@Lynn en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quotation_mark#Summary_table

o_o

Adnan

@Dennis Thanks :)

wizzwizz4

I am reading HPMOR and have forgotten what logic is... because it has stopped making sense.

Bálint

@flawr I use an ordinary hungarian keyboard, my PC keyboard is exactly the same, but a lot wider

@flawr I found a another accent on my numpad

wizzwizz4

18:03

@Bálint #VÆ˜m@9yX7IÕ·%ï?J→Ø)° are all easy to type on my keyboard.

zyabin101

@Lynn did you try stupid ascension tricks?

You may become famous by posting YAFAP that also happens to be a SATAP. :d

Bálint

@wizzwizz4 What country do you live in? Sweden?

wizzwizz4

@Bálint No, but I have a very efficient keyboard layout. Combinations of non-modifier keys do stuff.

Bálint

@wizzwizz4 That's amazing actually

Guys, let's loophole! I found this in the "Let's build a staircase" challenge:

> Feel free to use newer languages than this question.

zyabin101

@Upgoat Did you finish Cheddar?

(Day 1 of 6)

Upgoat

18:20

@zyabin101 no >_>

zyabin101

Good, you just failed day 1 of 6.

I'll ask the question again tomorrow.

Get Cheddar finished in five more days or I'll remove you from the beta room.

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ You should eventually make yourself a NetHack code. ^_^

Lynn

Hello, hello. I was eating

zyabin101

18:37

@Lynn, you should eventually make yourself a NetHack code. ^_^

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

Thrice - Hurricane [Audio]

►

OMG, my favorite band has a new album.

zyabin101

My current first line of my NetHack code is this:

NH 3.4.3W D Andrew-Val-Dwa-Fem-Law HP:na Pw:na AC:na

And I didn't even take the survey for the second and third lines. :(

Lynn

This is the part I’m really fast at

I’ve probably done Sokoban a billion times

zyabin101

o_o

I forgot to turn termcast on.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

(°◇°;)

zyabin101

18:54

# brb - is not a command.

Don't worry. lynn the ??? ??? ??? ??? will return soon.

@Lynn which class, role, gender and alignment do you have for this game?

Lynn

Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha again.

zyabin101

lynn the elven female chaotic wizard will return soon.

Inform 7

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