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16:00
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Or... you can configure a server by your own, which costs no cent.
oh
didn't see that, thank goodness
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ you unstar? you can make server. >.<
... This "about me"
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ How ? :P
majik
... um, brb googling
maybe set up on GH?
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ If you haven't seen Welbog's "lasers" masterpiece, you're really missing out.
I haven't.
please link
...
w. t. f.
roflmao
gtg, bai!
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ JSONbog?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ BAI
XMLBog is dead, long live JSONBog!
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ bai
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ oh, host it on C9?
and bai!
16:09
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ idk c9 :P
hmm.... have we had a polygon triangulation question?
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ i help
shit wtf am i doing kthxbai
ಠ_ಠ ... the .NET .Read() method, at least in the PowerShell version I have, is ever so helpfully including some sort of separation between characters its reading
it's all too windows for me :)
I am constantly amazed that people who like to code use windows at all :)
16:20
Reading in a text file of only 0s ... here's the resultant byte-array
110000 0 110000 0 110000 0 110000 0 110000 0 110000 0 110000 0
110000 = 48 = char'0' ... no problems there, but what's with the additional 0 between each byte?
big/little endian?
Well, then my line wouldn't start 110000
wouldn't one of the endians put the zeroes after?
Oh, FFS ... the file encoding wasn't ANSI
16:23
oh no.. a downvote!
oh cruel world
OK, time for lunch, my brain apparently has the dumbs
it's a perfectly nice question!
@TimmyD bon appetit
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ go on...
what aspect displeases you?
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Staring at the output for a solid half hour wondering what was going on. Finally decided to open the file in Notepad++ and saw the encoding in the lower right.
16:24
@Lembik Personal taste, I loathe challenges that impose (imo) needless restrictions.
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ but it doesn't have any needless restrictions!!
@TimmyD ouch. thank God for n++
name one
"you may not read the entire file at once"
16:25
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ that is not needless. It is to do with efficiencty
if you want to do this on a large file you can't read it all in
Which code golf isn't.
sure I can. file.read().
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ well.. we do allow variations on a theme. It is a sort of restricted complexity
I hate those problem too.
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ sorry what I meant was that in practical situation the restriction is useful
so they are not needless
it's a programming challenge
this is a real life problem and the challenge is to write short code for it
I don't mean everyone in the world should want to do that but it's a good question for ppcg imho
For a recreational Code golf challenge...
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Lol, good luck doing that with a 4GB file and 1GB of RAM.
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ right.. so you have your favourite language and you want to show it can do this sort of thing
@Lembik Nope.
I don't have a favorite file IO language.
I understand it's not the normal ppcg question.. I see my job to introduce new interesting questions
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ that's fine :) But some people do
@TimmyD \(-_-)/ I implement the solution :P
@Lembik I encourage interesting questions, but IMO this isn't all that interesting.
16:29
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ :( I really don't see why.
is it too practical?
IMO
It's not very practical at all--when will you ever need to get a random line from a file ? :P
oh I can tell you!
if you are doing machine learning and each line is a feature vector. If the file is huge you want to sample random subsets
because it's too slow to work on the whole file
Oh, I do machine learning all the time :P
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Wait, since when is PPCG about practicality? :p
I get what you're saying though.
16:30
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ then it's for you!
:)
@TimmyD exactly :P
@Lembik sorry, that was sarcasm
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ well it's not that practical as I don't require the code to be fast :)
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ah.. well some people do do machine learning :) It's not that rare
@Lembik (tangent: English is weird. "do do" is valid :P)
I understand lots of people have made esolangs that don't support IO nicely
but that's not my fault :)
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ as is Buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.
16:32
and to many haskell is an esolang :)
@ArtOfCode I vehemently deny the validity of that statement :P
@ArtOfCode They do indeed
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ It is! Look it up.
Haha, that's also true enough. I get that it's practical, but it doesn't make the best challenge
@ArtOfCode I've seen it before, and am mostly in denial
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ no.. but it does make the restrictions non-needless! :)
16:33
Buffalo has three meanings: Buffalo, NY; to buffalo, as in to bully; or buffalo, the animal.
what's the difference between a bison and a buffalo?
@ArtOfCode it should be plural :P
So Buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo: Buffalo (the animal) from Buffalo, NY, bully other buffalo who are also from Buffalo NY.
Buffalo is plural. Just like sheep.
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I think it's a good challenge because it tests the part of the ppcg community other challenges don't :)
16:33
but the verb isn't
and some people might extend their esolangs to support IO nicely!
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ there is no plural form of a verb.
@Lembik If that's your thing, then go ahead. (edit again so I can remove downvote)
@ArtOfCode buffalo versus buffaloes
@El'endiaStarman Many much moosen
done
and thanks
16:34
The infinitive is "to buffalo", then you have "I/you/we/they buffalo" or "he/she/it buffaloes"
I have never worked so hard for a non-downvote :)
@Lembik np
@ArtOfCode But buffalo is it in the first one.
buffaloes isn't a plural verb, it's a conjugation
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ no, it's they.
@ArtOfCode well. it's the plural of a verb
buffalo is a city
16:35
the buffalo from Buffalo, they bully other buffalo.
no one knows the answer to my question??
oh
@Lembik XD
@Lembik which one?
what's the difference between a bison and a buffalo?
Bison are American; buffalo are their African counterparts.
16:37
What did the buffalo say to his kid as he walked to school?
"Bison."
@ArtOfCode no.. you can't wash your face in a buffalo
@Lembik wat
maybe you need a particular accent.. try bison in an australian accent
16:38
oh no
your pun was terrible :(
thanks :)
Noun: basin ‎(plural basins)
  1. A bowl for washing, often affixed to a wall.
  2. (geography) An area of land from which water drains into a specific river.
  3. (geography) A rock formation scooped out by water erosion.
  4. basin m ‎(plural basins)
  5. (textiles, historical) bombasine
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Adverb: basin
  1. maybe
this?
:P
yes :)
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ o_O I found a snake with your name on slither.io???
number 1
16:38
it makes me hurt inside
I feel good about that :)
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ which name
Dec 4 '15 at 3:05, by quartata
First step is to figure out bison
Dec 4 '15 at 3:05, by El'endia Starman
@quartata Have a baby boy and wait ~19 years for them to go to college.
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Conor [redacted] O'Brien
....
O_O
Dec 4 '15 at 3:06, by quartata
@El'endiaStarman How does that help?
16:39
wtf
seriously?
Dec 4 '15 at 3:06, by El'endia Starman
"Bye son."
you're not kidding?
16:39
mine was better! :)
I also know the difference between jam and marmalade but it is nsfw
so won't comment further
I was like "cool" but then I realized you wouldn't use your full name.
scary
maybe it's a strange coincidence ._.
i think it must be
Unless it was you?
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ hydroelectric
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ XD
Or it's a friend :P thought that would be weird. only three people I know irl know my mid name, mainly my friends and my ex-gf
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ No, I don't play that game
@El'endiaStarman I would like to see the timings without any machinery :)
Machinery?
they are using power driven tools to change the tires
he meant, no stopwatch
16:45
I would allow only a spanner :)
Hmm. I wonder if you're bringing that mentality to your challenge writing as well...
@El'endiaStarman :)
@El'endiaStarman you many notice that really I love to ask impossibly difficult challenges but I intersperse them with code-golf to keep people happy :)
I think we need a polygon triangulation challenge though
but my temptation is always to pose questions where there is > 0 percent chance the answer could be useful :)
Am I seriously the only one that voted for commas as separator in that Strawpoll
barbarians
hi @Fatalize
@Lembik Hi
16:49
@Fatalize still hoping you will answer my challenge :)
@Lembik I'm super tired today, no coding for me
@Fatalize sorry to hear it.. rest!
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ No, but a bounty, as I said.
@Lembik Reading this starboard is very calming
you mean the one on the right with starred comments?
16:52
this very one
so enlightning
it doesn't take long to read :)
@mınxomaτ hahaha that's what you get for using Crapple products/services
17:09
BAI
SFRUITW'd //o\\
chat challenge: given an array of 1s and 0s, convert that to a decimal number without builtins
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ easy.
pseudocode:
lambda x: reduce((lambda G,H:G*2+H), x)
17:26
hmm.. maybe my challenge should have been to output 1 line at random...
I WAS THIRD ON THAT LEADERBOARD DAMNIT
@ArtOfCode ON WHICH LEADERBOARD?
@zyabin101 slither.io
ignoring the title... is amathsdictionaryforkids.com/qr/timages/tables.gif suitable for a code-golf challenge?
that is to make an image of times tables
17:30
I would like the lines however :)
to make it more interesting
or is someone going to complain this is hard in Jelly :)
mini challenge: given a string representing an number, repeat that number that number of times
My idea:
1. Go through all questions tagged [kolmogorov-complexity].
2. For each question, go through each code block
3. For each code block, go through each string (things contained in quotemarks)
4. For each string, find each word (/[a-z]+/i)
5. Add these words to my list of words I would need in my compression dictionary.
17:34
@ArtOfCode :)
somone told me to comment here, so that's what I'm doing — ArtOfCode 18 secs ago
ugh. all the non PPCG mods are just trolls
@Lembik why an image and not ascii? Why random ordering?
@Optimizer :(
17:36
you are the least though
^^^^
Would repeat a string congaing the integer N "N times" be too simple of a challenge?
Like, n = 5 => "55555"?
or better, n = "five" => "55555"
17:40
it's mostly a slight superset of another challenge
Not real interesting to me, personally.
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

LembikMake a times table sheet The challenge is to make an image of a times table sheet. Look at the following: . Your image should look like this except: You should not include the title or the footer or worry about colors. Black and white is fine. The times tables in each box should be randomly...

or better, repeat it n * x times, where x is the length of the string
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ That would be two bytes in Jelly Dẋ, thank you.
17:44
@KennyLau what about my improved version?
@ArtOfCode Same code, with second argument.
wait, length?!
Testcase please.
Yeah. So if input is "five", output is 20 consecutive 5's
5 (character) times 4 (length)
oh
well Jelly doesn't have a word converter xd
what if input is "ten"?
3 x 10 = 30 consecutive 10s
@ArtOfCode Ignoring the word converter part, it would be 3 bytes with 2 arguments
17:48
Oh, but you're only getting one argument here, the string.
You gotta take the length yourself :P
Would that make a good challenge?
well... Jelly doesn't have a word converter xd
@ArtOfCode Don't we have a similar challenge to convert word to number somewhere?
I haven't searched... but I believe that it exists.
shrug
@KennyLau two bytes in Jolf too
Do it in J.
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ $~
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Including word conversion?
17:54
   $~'5'
|domain error
|       $~'5'
@ArtOfCode no, for my challenge
@KennyLau You need a fork: ".$]
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ $~ 5
then there's spaces
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Q: Is there a face?

TickTockFace-recognition software is fairly prevalent now, why don't we make it smaller? Your Task Write a program that, given an image, outputs whether or not it contains a face. (Human preferably, but if you make a horse-face-finder, that's cool too) The program then must also output the area of the i...

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Well, alright.
BTW, what is your avatar?
who are you talking to?
17:59
myself
with some effects
thanks
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ How do you convert 5 5 5 5 5 to a string?
10#.$~5
or naw.
clever use of the base conjunction
doesn't work with larger numbers (say 15) though.
18:06
well
x: should fix that
actually, 10 doesn't work at all ._.
11111111110
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Guaranteed that's one possible period of Nx1 oscillators in the B1/S Life-like rule!
@El'endiaStarman o-O
A.K.A. Electrons Bouncing in a Wire.... :P
18:10
Specifically, that's the period of a length 24 wire.
> It's like the creative team at Marvel got an early look at Batman v Superman and took it upon themselves to show the executives at Warner Bros. how to make a superhero-versus-superhero film built on many of the same themes as Batman v Superman but that isn't a dark hurricane of disappointment and stink
@Fatalize An image because it takes it slightly out of the ordinary. Could be ascii I suppose as long as the layout is ok. OK I give in... ascii :)
@Fatalize random ordering because it's more interesting!
@KennyLau would you prefer ascii art?
You seem addicted to random
@Lembik but randomly ordered multiplication tables doesn't make any sense
@Lembik well...
@Fatalize sure it does. That's how real tests are
@Fatalize randomly ordered in each box
having them in order makes no sense for a test :)
18:22
but that's not a test
@Fatalize I know.. I was thinking of it as a test. I'll add that to the question
 1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  10
 2  4  6  8 10 12 14 16 18  20
 3  6  9 12 15 18 21 24 27  30
 4  8 12 16 20 24 28 32 36  40
 5 10 15 20 25 30 35 40 45  50
 6 12 18 24 30 36 42 48 54  60
 7 14 21 28 35 42 49 56 63  70
 8 16 24 32 40 48 56 64 72  80
 9 18 27 36 45 54 63 72 81  90
10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100
but I need people to vote on ascii art :)
is this an okay layout?
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ no!
I have made it ascii art now
18:24
@Lembik why not?
the layout should be as in the example
where is the 1 times table box?
oh wait sorry, I didn't see it XD
:)
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

LembikMake a times table sheet The challenge is to make an ascii art version of a times table sheet. Look at the following: . Your answer should look like this except: You should not include the title or the footer or worry about colors. Black and white is fine. The times tables in each box shoul...

ok now it is ascii art... any other comments?
@Lembik What exactly are we to output?
ascii art
how is that normally done?
18:26
1 x 1 = 1
1 x 2 = 2
...
0
Q: Maximize $\ S=Max{(\sum_{i=1}^{n-1} |f(i+1)-f(i)|)}$

David ChoLet $\ f: \{1,2,...n\} → \{1,2,...n\} \quad bijection$ What I want to know is $\ S=Max{(\sum_{i=1}^{n-1} |f(i+1)-f(i)|)}$ Is there a way to know 'when' does S would be maximized?

look at the comments xd
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ
Here's a program in Pyth to use brute force to tackle your question. — Kenny Lau 22 mins ago
@KennyLau :)
That is amusingly both technically correct and totally unhelpful. :P
@KennyLau ok so which part is unclear about what the output should look like?
> @KennyLau MsaVtZPZ.p << what does it mean?? How could it solve my problem with that short words?
@Lembik What exactly is the output?
18:29
@KennyLau the table in ascii art
so we decide how to format it?
sorry I must be missing where my explanation is missing
@KennyLau Well it should the same layout with the same horizontal and vertical lines
well okay
the only difference is that within each box the order of the lines should be random
do you mean the exact spacing?
sure
wait... random?! lol
nice
18:32
is it all clear now?
do all the multiplication signs have to be aligned? e.g. in your photo, the 6-block and the 10-block is not.
@KennyLau your code is not optimaly golfed
V is truncating
@KennyLau good point! What do you think?
@Lembik Well, you decide.
@KennyLau sure but I was looking for opinions :)
18:34
@Maltysen .MsaVtZZ.p?
otherwise I will say yes
@KennyLau yup
@Lembik Then yes it is
@Maltysen nice
please keep these useful questions coming!
you know, the absolute border
do they exist?
18:36
what does that mean?
the absolute border of the image
you know, I golf my speech also
I don't fully understand still. What is "they" in "do they exist?"?
there are lines around the border if that is what you mean
do we have to draw the outermost borders of the image?
yes!
18:37
all the horizontal and vertical lines
except in the header and footer
oh I changed my mind
the = signs should be aligned
someone will complain about the random part
they always do :)
Here's a program in Jelly that find the maximum of the sum from n=1 to specified. — Kenny Lau 40 secs ago
18:52
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Q: Double run-length encoding

ericw31415Everyone knows what run-length encoding is. It has been the subject of many code-golf challenges already. We'll be looking at a certain variation. Example Normal: 11222222222222222222233333111111111112333322 Run-length: 112(19)3(5)1(11)2333322 The number in parentheses specifies the number of...


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