The Nineteenth Byte

@R.Kap Pro tip: You can make multiline messages by beginning them with a single line break. Get fixed font by indenting with four spaces. No markdown or replies are recognized in multiline messages.

def r():
    print('hi')

Helka Homba

@R.Kap Defining a function is fine (though multiline is not, remember). You just need to make sure all the arrangements are still runnable Python programs

R. Kap

@HelkaHomba If a function is defined, suppose named function, will the program be executed through the function, or will the entire function and everything in it be expected to output the correct response?

Cyoce

@AlexA. -1. should be def r():print'hi'

Alex A.

4:12 AM

I will accept this downvote.

Helka Homba

@R.Kap If the function is only defined and not called then it would be a valid program, but it wouldn't output anything, so wouldn't work anyway

e.g. def r(): print('hi') is a valid python program but running it outputs nothing

R. Kap

@AlexA. How do I start the message with a single line break? I press ENTER, but nothing happens...

Shift+Enter

@AlexA. Thanks! :)

@R.Kap #noob

4:15 AM

@Cyoce At least I'm not the one with a cartoon platypus as my profile picture.

Cyoce

@R.Kap at least I don't have the default profile picture

R. Kap

@HelkaHomba So, for instance, the function would be executed like:

n()
o
i
t
c
n
u
f

right?

Helka Homba

No

Cyoce

that would be a valid program assuming n, o, i, t, c, n, u, f are defined and n is callable

R. Kap

@Cyoce Oh...I've been roasted...

Helka Homba

4:18 AM

The entire program string is arranged into one of the clock faces, then run as is. No adding parens or anything

R. Kap

@Downgoat YW too ;)

Helka Homba

(note that it's a codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/source-layout)

stekcric

bleets

kaps

4:23 AM

goats

hombas

platypuses

@R.Kap whats that lol?

R. Kap

@AshwinGupta What's what? Hombas?

Ashwin Gupta

4:26 AM

"nacirema lairt metsys"

R. Kap

system trial american

Alex A.

Alright then

Downgoat

30 mins ago, by Downgoat

Why does "No" have so many stars O_o

Alex A.

^ found in an ISO/IEC standard document

Downgoat

ok

Geobits

4:29 AM

There was a whole page of that stuff in our technical orders in the military.

R. Kap

@AshwinGupta k=' '.join([i[::-1]for i in"nacirema lairt metsys".split()])

Bye everybody. Gotta run.

Downgoat

how reflective should Cheddar be?

@R.Kap ??

Geobits

@Downgoat Usually it's what I'd call matte at best.

Downgoat

I meant this type of reflection:

Reflection (computer programming)

In computer science, reflection is the ability of a computer program to examine, introspect, and modify its own structure and behavior at runtime. == Historical background == The earliest computers were programmed in their native assembly language, which were inherently reflective as these original architectures could be programmed by defining instructions as data and using self-modifying code. As programming moved to higher-level languages such as C, this reflective ability disappeared (outside of malware) until programming languages with reflection built into their type systems appeared. Brian...

Geobits

Yes, I knew what you meant.

Ashwin Gupta

4:32 AM

ok

I changed my picture again

@Downgoat very reflective would be fun...

Downgoat

@AshwinGupta I liked your mars avatar the best, you should use that

Ashwin Gupta

@Downgoat yeah maybe so.

Downgoat

@AshwinGupta fun? how would it be fun?

Geobits

Super shiny cheese is bad cheese.

Downgoat

that is true

Ashwin Gupta

4:34 AM

@Geobits not always, how about grilled cheese sandwiches? When they melt the cheese gets shiny

Geobits

@AshwinGupta It's a bit glossier than normal, but not super shiny.

Ashwin Gupta

truee

Downgoat

^

Ashwin Gupta

yum ^

wait wtf.

Look at this one:

Downgoat

@AshwinGupta damn you, now I'm hungry ;_;

Ashwin Gupta

4:36 AM

@Downgoat that was the intention of course, the second one will spoil your appetite hopefully.

Downgoat

@AshwinGupta partially

but remember goats eat (almost) anything

Ashwin Gupta

oh yeah I forgot

Geobits

@Downgoat Even your carets point to typos o_O

Downgoat

@Geobits [tag:blame-ho— nevermind....

Ashwin Gupta

@Geobits carrots :D

Geobits

4:38 AM

Those are pointing at me though, not a typo.

Ashwin Gupta

tyopo

Downgoat

@Geobits you're a typo

yesterday, by QPaysTaxes

@Downgoat You're a typo

Ashwin Gupta

@Downgoat :D

Geobits

@Downgoat See, this is what I mean about creativity :P

Ashwin Gupta

ok bye, I'ma watch tv.

Downgoat

4:39 AM

@Geobits :|

@Geobits I was the first active goat on PPCG

Geobits

Not true:

GoatInTheMachine, London, United Kingdom

385 2 6

Ashwin Gupta

Downgoat

@Geobits (with rep)

Ashwin Gupta

none of these came before you ^^?

Geobits

@Downgoat 385 rep is rep, last I checked...

Ashwin Gupta

4:41 AM

@Downgoat fine

Helka Homba

@AshwinGupta I tried to link this but query not part of url :/

Downgoat

@Geobits updated -_-

also, he is stuck in the machine. I am not

Geobits

Unfortunately :P

Downgoat

ಠ_ಠ

Ashwin Gupta

@HelkaHomba I took a screeshot lol

Helka Homba

4:42 AM

is still cuter

Sp3000

@HelkaHomba @AlexA. Didn't see this comment :P But s/Sp/Dennis/

Ashwin Gupta

@HelkaHomba is that ur cat?

Downgoat

@HelkaHomba cute is subjective. VTC unclear

Helka Homba

@AshwinGupta no codegolf.stackexchange.com/users/15151/goatcat

Ashwin Gupta

@Downgoat jeez, thats just creep dude.

Alex A.

4:43 AM

@AshwinGupta No, it's our lord and savior, Catgoat.

Ashwin Gupta

@AlexA. K I need to find new internet friends.

Downgoat

@AlexA. ~~you're missing an h~~

Geobits

@Downgoat Not in this case. I don't even like cats and that thing's cuter.

Downgoat

you better go with it

Geobits

Most fucks aren't really what I'd call "cute".

Downgoat

4:44 AM

@Geobits ....

Ashwin Gupta

@Geobits =/

Downgoat

@Geobits that is a different type of fuck.......... ಠ_ಠ

Ashwin Gupta

^^ pls...

Geobits

Well, you should teach your babies not to curse.

Ashwin Gupta

just fyi, goats can't curse...

Downgoat

4:45 AM

@Geobits not all goats are my babies...

Alex A.

Meanwhile, Minibits swears like a sailor.

Helka Homba

Other funny animal username:

irrelephant

101 2

Geobits

@AlexA. Ha, you'd think that, but he's really good at censoring himself now that he's learned a few words :)

Downgoat

@HelkaHomba WHY WOULD YOU PUT A LINK TO THE SAME PAGE

this annoys me so much

Alex A.

hell yeah

1 1

Helka Homba

4:46 AM

Huh? It won't onebox else

Cyoce

@Downgoat platypi

Alex A.

@HelkaHomba I think he means that user links to their own profile in their profile

Helka Homba

oh

Geobits

It doesn't go to the same page, though :/

It goes to the SO profile.

Downgoat

@Cyoce oh, sorry

Ashwin Gupta

4:48 AM

Cyoce

@Downgoat YOUR EMOTICON CAN NOT HIDE FROM ME

Ashwin Gupta

goat ^?

Geobits

To think that is a goat would be udderly ridiculous.

Downgoat

@AshwinGupta ..... why tf are you posting goat udders ,,,,,,,

Ashwin Gupta

Ahahhahhaa

"udderly ridiculous"

Helka Homba

4:49 AM

@Sp3000 Explain code? :) (not everyone knows by heart what the g in fish does...)

Downgoat

flags as inappropriate

Ashwin Gupta

@Downgoat because

Cyoce

@Geobits Hahahaaaaaa kill me

Alex A.

@HelkaHomba It's like when people tell me how to pronounce something by giving me the IPA...

Ashwin Gupta

@Downgoat Flags the "cute as fuck" baby goat as inappropriate

Sp3000

4:49 AM

@HelkaHomba Fine :P But I'm assuming reading a bit of self source code is okay?

Downgoat

Avocado

1

Geobits

@AshwinGupta @Downgoat You're both liars. Flag them or don't :P

Helka Homba

@Sp3000 Yeah

Ashwin Gupta

@Downgoat truce? No flags.

Downgoat

@AshwinGupta you didn't finish your sentence

Ashwin Gupta

4:50 AM

@Downgoat Because.

Alex A.

Hey guess what? Don't abuse flags. ಠ_ಠ

Downgoat

@AshwinGupta of course! flags should never be played around with

Ashwin Gupta

@AlexA. I for one never flagged anything sir.

Downgoat

they alert every 10K user on chat

Ashwin Gupta

LOL

Geobits

4:51 AM

@Downgoat A better question is: Why don't you know what goat udders look like?

Helka Homba

Mini challenge: Write a meaningful English sentence using only SE usernames

Ashwin Gupta

@Geobits this is true ^, you must be the worst goat every. You don't even remember your mama goat's udder.

Alex A.

@HelkaHomba Hell yeah.

Downgoat

@Geobits because I haven't been in a very... intimate relationship?

Ashwin Gupta

@HelkaHomba stackoverflow.com/users/1506799/iam stackoverflow.com/users/4419834/the stackoverflow.com/users/249538/goat stackoverflow.com/users/2031447/overlord

Geobits

4:53 AM

@HelkaHomba Hmm. So far, verbing is hard :(

Alex A.

@AshwinGupta It's more a preemptive disapproval face. :P

Downgoat

what is sleep, Canada

101 1

hahaha

Ashwin Gupta

@AlexA. ok, I'll remember that.

Helka Homba

@AlexA. stackoverflow.com/users/4435460/hell-yeah, stackoverflow.com/users/2565678/you-did stackoverflow.com/users/163828/it

Downgoat

goat

20.9k 3 28 59

php javascript mysql arrays sql jquery java

Oh shit, sentient Chatgoat is now making sock Stack Overflow accounts now O_O

Ashwin Gupta

4:54 AM

"Iam the goat overlord"

Alex A.

Isn't that the image you used for the upgoat/downgoat image challenge?

Ashwin Gupta

thats mines

Downgoat

@AlexA. it's one of them, yes

Alex A.

@HelkaHomba Nice, the last guy even includes the punctuation!

Helka Homba

Well I couldn't search for just it

Downgoat

4:55 AM

@AlexA. though it's not a sentence so puncuation isn't neede

Ashwin Gupta

@HelkaHomba my scentence stackoverflow.com/users/2578586/i-am

Helka Homba

You are what?

Ashwin Gupta

Thats a full one btw, there is a subject and predicate.

its a full sentence.

I don't need the predicate noun, the linking verb is fine alone.

Sp3000

@HelkaHomba Needs additional restriction: >1k rep

Downgoat

Cheddar:T_REPL> alex
━━ Implicit Output ━━
false

hahaha

Alex A.

4:58 AM

@Downgoat It is a sentence. The subject is "you," the verb is "did." That makes it a complete sentence; the additions of "hell yeah" and "it" aren't necessary but give it (a bit) more meaning.

Geobits

Don't you worry child, You drop ghosts in the code.

Alex A.

@Geobits Ooh, nice, all PPCG users!

Geobits

I thought that was a bit classier ;)

Alex A.

@Downgoat T_T

Helka Homba

@Sp3000 Cookie bonus 🍪

Ashwin Gupta

4:59 AM

I'm so very hungry

Downgoat

@AshwinGupta nice try rickrolling

Geobits

@HelkaHomba All of mine have 1k+ network rep. Cookie please.

Alex A.

TIL I'm able to detect rickrolls just by seeing the URL.

@AshwinGupta That's not nice.

Ashwin Gupta

@AlexA. ok I probably should memorize it huh?

@AlexA. fine =/

Helka Homba

@Geobits 🍆

Downgoat

5:02 AM

@HelkaHomba uhhhhhh

Geobits

I have to install fonts to get my cookie? :(

Alex A.

Hell yeah, I'd take an eggplant over a cookie anyday.

Downgoat

@AlexA. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Alex A.

Uh, okay

Geobits

Yea.... I've actually heard cookie used as slang that way... and obvious eggplant is obvious.

Ashwin Gupta

5:03 AM

Cookie ^^

Warm, soft, chewy, oozy, melt in your mouth.

Chocolate chip cookie

@Geobits Fine, here

sigh....

@HelkaHomba who's that?

Geobits

>_<

Not the right Cookie, that's who.

Downgoat

5:04 AM

oh shit goats are stupid

Geobits

We've been trying to tell you that...

Ashwin Gupta

@Downgoat that's what I've been trying to say all this time.

@Geobits yup.

Helka Homba

@AshwinGupta Cookie Roberts (almost)

Ashwin Gupta

@HelkaHomba lol ok

ooh good

my avatar changed

:D

Downgoat

@AshwinGupta at least goats have brains unlike police boxes ;)

Ashwin Gupta

5:05 AM

@Downgoat excuse me, this isn't a telephone box.

Its a TARDIS, time and relative dimension in space

its a HIGHLY intelligent, sentient being.

Downgoat

@AshwinGupta oh, so it's even more empty space :P

Helka Homba

In unicode food rice cracker = 🍘 and rice ball = 🍙. Am I the only one who has never seen rice looking like this?

Geobits

Give me an image and I'll tell you :P

Downgoat

first result on google images for "rice ball"

Ashwin Gupta

@Downgoat interesting, I'd expect something else from that search.

Geobits

5:07 AM

Oh, if it's that, then yes. I've had them like that a lot, and they're delicious.

Helka Homba

I found

Downgoat

should empty arrays be falsey values?

Helka Homba

no!

Ashwin Gupta

@Downgoat null values

Alex A.

@HelkaHomba You should visit Uwajimaya the next time you're up here.

Geobits

5:07 AM

@Downgoat I can't think of a good reason for them to be truthy.

Downgoat

@HelkaHomba oh, sorry, I meant falsey. I am really tired...

Helka Homba

@AlexA. I've been there, usually to stock up on white rabbits

Alex A.

White rabbits...?

Geobits

@HelkaHomba Are you a magician?

Alex A.

I didn't realize they sold rabbits

Helka Homba

5:08 AM

milk candy

Alex A.

Ohhh

And you haven't seen rice like that at Uwajimaya??

Helka Homba

They may have changed the name, I forget

@AlexA. maybe, I don't remember

Geobits

@HelkaHomba If you don't mind, I'd rather ignore you said that and concentrate on the fact that you're a stage magician.

Alex A.

> fact

Alright then

I mean, he does juggle, right?

Geobits

Umm, well, uh... it's falsifiable, right? So it's not an opinion.

Helka Homba

5:13 AM

Time to make myself disappear

Geobits

I knew it!

Ashwin Gupta

@AlexA. can moderators flag stuff for other moderators?

Alex A.

No

Moderator flags apply immediately

Ashwin Gupta

Ah so you don't have that feature

ok I see

lol

Alex A.

If I flag something as spam or offensive, the person whose post got flagged gets an automatic 30 minute suspension.

Ashwin Gupta

5:21 AM

oh

Alex A.

Oh, I guess I could do a moderator attention flag.

Geobits

dooooo iiiiiiit

Ashwin Gupta

yeah

except not to me

Alex A.

I've never done that though because, well, I am a moderator...

Ashwin Gupta

to downgoat

:D

@AlexA. see this is why half the community could never be a moderator, me and geo would show no restraint.

Alex A.

5:22 AM

XD

Geobits

Nah, I'd show too much most likely. Talk is cheap when you don't have the power to do it ;)

Ashwin Gupta

well lol thats you

Remember, I'm an immature kid who likes clicking buttons :D

Geobits

Oh, I'm not sure how I'd forget that.

Ashwin Gupta

@Geobits good.

this Kylo-Ren concept is crazy.

Downgoat

@AshwinGupta no need to start being impolite to the goat

Sp3000

5:35 AM

@HelkaHomba "ace, Doorknob ceased to turn clockwis!" "copy, TNT phase." "SomeKittens st0le TNT!" "YOU overactor, Mark cardboard_box, cat Snack phase. TheNumberOne Cruncher." "swish, Nabb TNT... Shebang?" "copy, Shebang. PleaseStand. manatwork."

3

Alex A.

...those are meaningful English sentences? :P

Granted, I do love "copy, Shebang. PleaseStand. manatwork."

Sp3000

Close enough :P there's an awful lack of verbs in 1k+

Downgoat

@Sp3000 brb changing username to verb

my username should be a verb now...

Sp3000

D: wtf is Downgoating

Downgoating

I am going to go downgoating posts on PPCG

Anonymous

6:06 AM

I have just created a new delicious drink. Hawaiian Punch + vodka + tequila. I call it "Alcoholism"

2

Sherlock9

How is everyone?

@Mego Scotch + Vodka + Tequila = Blackout of '77

Anonymous

@Sherlock9 I don't have any scotch, unfortunately. I have whiskey though...

Sherlock9

Ah well, I was referencing this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_blackout_of_1977

Not sure what a NY drink would look like

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@AshwinGupta tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Type_102

@AshwinGupta Sadly, Type 40s are not sentient

zyabin101

7:43 AM

Hello

Bas

8:30 AM

Hello

Sherlock9

8:44 AM

Hello

Anonymous

It's always so satisfying to push a huge bugfix commit

Anonymous

@Dennis Pull Actually please?

Mars Ultor

> Pull Actually

Sherlock9

FTFY Actually pull please?

Anonymous

Next I get to apply a significant portion of those bugfixes to Seriously

Mars Ultor

8:45 AM

Significant portion?

Sherlock9

Hi Cyoce

zyabin101

@Mego Are you still supporting Seriously with all these bug fixes?

Bas

@Mego I've read an article yesterday that despite their cute appearances, penguins can be quite the killers

zyabin101

@Bas :O Link?

Anonymous

@Bas noot noot

Anonymous

8:55 AM

@MarsUltor A lot of the bugs that the latest commit fixed are also present in Seriously, and thus the fixes need to be backported

Bas

@zyabin101 Hold on, i'll try to find it

@zyabin101 link, killers is probably the wrong word to describe them though

Anonymous

Penguins will ruin your day if they're hungry and you look sufficiently fish-like

Bas

Sherlock9

9:17 AM

Hey @Bas, you wouldn't happen to be also known as Bazzlo, would you?

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Bas

9:39 AM

@Sherlock9 Afraid not

orlp

is it bad that I rejected this edit?

codegolf.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/30125

sure the edit is helpful, but it goes against my intent of making a joke

I consider the added value of showing what S does in this context to be very little

Anonymous

@orlp I'm with you on that one

Anonymous

I also would have rejected it

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Sherlock9

@Bas Ah, alright. Thanks anyway

Bas

10:51 AM

@Mego Same @orlp

Mars Ultor

12:06 PM

\o/ Ubuntu Xerus is out

Helka Homba

1:10 PM

I feel better upvoting that answer than the butt's one! — Öskå 20 hours ago

Ouch @Martin

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@HelkaHomba How nice :)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

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what is this I don't even

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