The Nineteenth Byte

Mars Ultor

14:00

@epicTCK Doesn't work on computers where there's hover-URL

epicTCK

not everyone checks those

Geobits

Any sensible person does though, and those are the ones that make you proudest when you trick them.

Or something like that.

GamrCorps

I only started checking links after joining this website

Geobits

I probably started regularly doing it during the original rickroll epidemic a decade or so ago. I've basically always done it for links in emails from strangers, etc, though.

TimmyD

@Geobits But we're no strangers to love...

Geobits

14:11

Having to trash your system due to virus and various crapware enough will make a person paranoid :)

@TimmyD Umm, you know the rules, and so do I.

Sherlock9

Gmail spam filter is pretty great for that stuff. The only spam I get now are the newsletters from services I used to want -___-

Geobits

It is now, yes. I'm talking before gmail was a thing.

Sherlock9

True

TimmyD

@Geobits Really? Because a full commitment's what I'm thinking of.

Sherlock9

I check most links, because I like seeing the whole link before clicking on it first

Geobits

14:13

@TimmyD Really. You wouldn't get this from any other guy.

zyabin101

@_@

GamrCorps

hahaha

TimmyD

@Geobits But I just want to tell you how I'm feeling.

Geobits

I get that, but I gotta make you understand...

Sherlock9

And on mobile, I open links in a new tab, which involves holding down on a link and a menu with the full link pops up, so I get to see it first anyway

Also, I half memorized the Rick roll video ID. Lots of q's and w's

Geobits

14:15

There's not just one ;)

TimmyD

@Geobits Y'know. I'm never gonna give you up.

zyabin101

Never gonna let you down...

Geobits

Never gonna run arooooound

zyabin101

And desert you...

TimmyD

And get some dessert.

Mmm

zyabin101

14:16

c-c-c-c-combobreaker

GamrCorps

Hello to the like 10 people who just joined chat at once

Geobits

I'm gonna make you cry, and I'm gonna say goodbye.

Mars Ultor

how much processing power does kasperd have

epicTCK

@Maltysen what is that?

zyabin101

Looks we've caught a lot of random people on that recital.

Sherlock9

14:17

Did someone flag something?

GamrCorps

Apparently

TimmyD

Shh, everyone be good. Act natural.

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epicTCK

@Sherlock9 probably my rick roll.

Being good? Natural?

GamrCorps

Rickroll recital

9 mins ago, 6 minutes total – 29 messages, 7 users, 0 stars

Bookmarked 17 secs ago by GamrCorps

Sherlock9

What seems to be the trouble, officers?

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Geobits

14:20

The only problem I have with rickrolls is that we should be expanding this to other videos. I get that Astley is awesome and all, but share the love around, ya know?

Ashwin Gupta

What are we being good for?

GamrCorps

We need to make a PPCG rickroll video

Ashwin Gupta

oh lol.

k

Sherlock9

Or "What can I do you for, officers?"

Ashwin Gupta

^^^

use that.

TimmyD

14:21

OK, they're gone. Where were we?

Geobits

I'm trying to decide on a new video. Right now I'm thinking Safety Dance.

TimmyD

Because you're friends don't dance, and if they don't dace, well, they're no friends of mine.

Sherlock9

You can dance if you want to

Or was that another song?

Geobits

That's the one.

TimmyD

Nope, you've got it

Geobits

14:24

The video is classic cheese:

Safety Dance - Men Without Hats Official Video

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Sherlock9

Oh good, I thought my friends had left me behind :P

Rainbolt

Just dance, gonna be okaaay... duh duh doo doo mm just dance spin that record babe

Geobits

On second thought, now that it is a decade after rickrolling started, maybe something from the 90s is more appropriate. Plenty of ridiculous videos from that decade too.

Rainbolt

You think rickrolling started ten years ago? My mom said people rickrolled real life events (dances, etc.) when she was in school.

Geobits

How old is your mom? My parents were out of school before the song existed.

Rainbolt

14:29

She's 56 or 57 I think?

Geobits

So low 20s in 1982. I guess it's possible. I don't think it started online until mid-2000s.

Rainbolt

The meme says it was uploaded to YouTube in 2007

Sherlock9

That's about the same age as my mother, and she had graduated from college years before Never Gonna Give You Up

It came out in 1987, though

Geobits

Ah, I thought it was 82 for some reason.

Rainbolt

Now this is sad. "Although the video garnered millions of hits on YouTube, Astley has earned almost no money from the meme. By 2010 he had received only US$12 in royalties from YouTube for his performance share."

Twelve bucks from three years of (Internet) rickrolling

Geobits

14:34

Hmm. Most youtube videos weren't ad-infested by 2010, and I don't think they'd figured out the revenue side of things at that point. Wonder if that's changed now.

Rainbolt

How can you rickroll someone if there's an ad playing?

Geobits

I don't think you can. I think there are other revenue streams for videos now, though. I don't know what sort of deal VEVO has, tbh.

For the most part I have no clue what videos have ads any more, because adblockers work well on youtube.

quartata

Rickrolling getting boring eh? Try duckrolling

Geobits

@quartata Like this?

Rainbolt

Do ad blockers work well for sites like putlocker and dailymotion where clicking pretty much anything on the page opens new tabs or even launches a new browser window?

Geobits

14:39

Don't visit either of those sites often, lemme find out.

Hmm. Clicked through a few videos on dailymotion. All in one tab so far.

Rainbolt

What do you use to adblock?

TimmyD

At home I run my own DNS servers and use this list of hostnames.

Geobits

Dammit, I caught myself. Started browsing through cheesy 80s videos, and now I'm just gonna let the list play out :)

Adblock Plus

zyabin101

@Rainbolt Straw poll?

Rainbolt

@Geobits Nice, it comes as a Chrome extension

Geobits

14:42

Yea, I'm using the extension version.

Maltysen

@epicTCK the play dev console is where you publish and look at the apps that you published on the play store

every other year or so google does an april's fool joke with it

this year its making your app available in space

Sherlock9

Honestly, I would be much more impressed if Google remade your app in Whitespace

Well, actually that would be quite insane. It would be very, very impressive though

Geobits

14:58

Crap, I think my apache config is screwed. bbl.

Nathan Merrill

is google not doing april fools?

Geobits

google mic drop

Nathan Merrill

I've checked gmail, google, and youtube

Maltysen

1 hour ago, by Maltysen

google did a play dev console april's fool joke again this year

@NathanMerrill the gmail one went over badly and got removed

Nathan Merrill

what was it?

or are you talking last years?

Sp3000

15:00

Maps is Funky Town

Nathan Merrill

lol, GMM has a good video today:

11 Minutes of Silence

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TimmyD

@NathanMerrill John Cage sending copyright notice in 3 ... 2 ...

Sp3000

Their video is 3 times longer, so clearly they've put in more effort

zyabin101

15:20

Who here wants to play Custom Tetris? I'll start a netplay session if someone wants to.

Sp3000

Anyone here with node able to get this answer to work (and give the same result?)?

zyabin101

@Sp3000 Erm, nope. No one... No.

Sp3000

Oh wait, I think I know what's wrong

TimmyD

Ah, dang. Someone beat my answer on the infinite I/O challenge

Polyducks

@zyabin101 That looks really fun. Can I take you up on it in about an hour? I'm almost finished at work

zyabin101

15:36

@Polyducks Why, yes, you can play. But I will be the attacker.

Polyducks

Fine :)

TimmyD

C'mon Schwartz ... C'mon Schwartz ...

zyabin101

Three...

Two...

One...

Challenge! Sandbox! Meta! Whatever!

Nathan Merrill

qntm.org/files/hatetris/hatetris.html

^ best custom tetris player

zyabin101

@NathanMerrill It does not connect to the network, and only has a frozen-time singleplayer version.

Custom Tetris allows netplay and 12 variants of Tetris in one!

Nathan Merrill

15:48

I said player, although, I should have said attacker

I'm not saying its the best system, but the best AI :)

zyabin101

@Polyducks The settings for the session are attacker "network", defender "human", and game URL is "ondras.firebaseio.com/tetris/ppcga00".

Nathan Merrill

wait, why does it have more than the standard pieces?

zyabin101

Or, alternatively, write "ondras" and "ppcga00" in the text fields.

mbomb007

@Quill You've even posted the same thing twice. lol

Polyducks

@NathanMerrill damn that's mean

Nathan Merrill

16:00

?

oh, the system

Polyducks

The AI I mean :)

Nathan Merrill

yeah

Polyducks

Yeah

@zyabin101 heading home now. Be back online in 30 mins!

Nathan Merrill

the record is like 24 lines I think

zyabin101

@Polyducks Sorry, I'm on a walk. I won't be able to play right now. I'll ping you when I'll be back home.

Geobits

16:27

3

A: How many project managers are needed to change a lightbulb?

Let's call a meeting to introduce the project to all affected department leads, discuss objectives and answer any questions.

Dragonrage

so i was disappointed there wasnt a question pitting programs against each other to see who could score the highest on unikong

Geobits

That's because you haven't written the challenge yet ;)

Dragonrage

well i would, but ive never written a question here, and im afraid i would do it wrong

epicTCK

I got the 100 rep bonus so now I can comment on PPCG! Yeah!

It's funny how active I am in chat seeing as how few chalenges I answer...

Geobits

@Dragonrage Don't worry. If you do, we'll just downvote it mercilessly and close it until it gets fixed >_>

Dragonrage

16:30

@Geobits awesome. sounds great lets try this

Geobits

There's always The Sandbox to iron those things out before it goes live, too.

Dragonrage

@Geobits so i just post an answer there of what my question will look like and then get feedback?

zyabin101

@Dragonrage Yes.

Geobits

Pretty much, yea. It's also typical to ask specific questions you might have at the bottom, like "is input specified well enough?", etc.

epicTCK

I got a downvote on my proposed challenge here does anyone know why? not rickroll

Geobits

16:34

@epicTCK I haven't looked through it well, but did you address the comments?

epicTCK

@Geobits For the most part, yes

Geobits

Does anybody know if we have a "magic link" to the Sandbox? It would be handy, rather than having to get to it and copy/paste each time.

If not, I'm going to make one.

Dragonrage

@Geobits you could have a Room owner or mod add it to the room description. might be handy

Geobits

(or at least a shorter, easier to remember url)

TimmyD

2 days ago, by Quill

Okay, sandbox.ppcg.lol is set up

epicTCK

16:38

sandbox.ppcg.lol

yup. works. not rickroll.

Alex A.

2/10 could have been a sillier link title

sandy.ppcg.lol

Geobits

Well crap. I guess ppcg-sandbox.noip.me was a waste of two minutes I won't get back.

Nathan Merrill

were you under the impression that the site wasn't a waste of time?

Maltysen

@Geobits dammit

Geobits

Good point. I should say "more of a waste".

Nathan Merrill

16:39

:P

Polyducks

@Zyabin101 RE: That tetris game and you being on a walk. No prob! Speak later!

Hey guys, are you entering into the 64x64 gamejam on IO?

Maltysen

@Polyducks the what what on what?

Polyducks

Sorry, let me reconstitute my words

Alex A.

I made a thing: Get up-to-the-minute results on any SE election primary

Polyducks

There's a #lowrezjam on itch.io. I got an email about it over the weekend

itch.io/jam/lowrezjam2016

I realise I sort of spewed out all my words

Dragonrage

16:44

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Let's Play Unikong In honor of April Fool's day, we shall have an epic battle to see who can play Unikong best. Or, rather, whose program can play it best. Goal Write a program in any language to play the game Unicorn. It should seek to try and score as high as possible. Standard rules apply. ...

Polyducks

@Dragonrage that's awesome

Dragonrage

@Polyducks thanks. i thought it would be kind of neat for a challenge, just wanna make sure i get the format/rules done correctly

Polyducks

@Dragonrage are we allowed to read out the variables from the game to avoid barrels etc?

Further, how long is the game going to be on the page?

Geobits

You should make sure you include the url, rules, etc. Also, what happens to the challenge if/when they pull it after today? Is it hosted somewhere else in a playable form?

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Let's Play Unikong In honor of April Fool's day, we shall have an epic battle to see who can play Unikong best. Or, rather, whose program can play it best. Goal Write a program in any language to play the game Unicorn. It should seek to try and score as high as possible. Standard rules apply. ...

Alex A.

16:47

@AlexA. Caveat: For some reason it 403s on Stack Overflow. Works for all of the other sites though.

Dragonrage

@Polyducks i have no idea. i assume its just for april fools. though i think you may be able to extract the source from the page

Cyoce

@Downgoat would it be possible to add "by byte count" to the sort options for answers? I know there's a leaderboard, but it would cool to simply sort it by score.

Polyducks

@Dragonrage I think it's a html5 game. If that's the case you could actually write a program which injects javascript and just increase the score variable.

Dragonrage

@Polyducks hmm, interesting. i'd say yes, but you get bonus points for not doing that.

Alex A.

@Cyoce Once we get a custom design are you still going to use the userscript?

Dragonrage

16:49

@Polyducks ok then i would have to say in the rules that that is not allowed, it actually has to play that game

Nathan Merrill

@Dragonrage we don't like bonus points

Alex A.

^

Cyoce

@AlexA. Yes. It has extra features as well as looking nice.

Dragonrage

@NathanMerrill ah, well then you get a pat on the back then

Polyducks

@Dragonrage rpg.stackexchange.com/seriously/unikong that's the direct link to unikong

Doorknob

16:50

Would anyone like a 39 megapixel picture of a cheeseburger?

If so: i.imgur.com/ddBssDf.jpg

Alex A.

@Cyoce We should feature request that once we get a custom design, the features of the userscript remain but it uses the site's official design.

Nathan Merrill

Also, I had an idea: it'd be way cool if we could rate challenges' diffculty

Geobits

@Polyducks LowRezJam looks interesting. 16 days to enter, huh? I'll have to think on this.

Polyducks

@Doorknob thanks. I never knew I wanted this until now.

Alex A.

@Doorknob imgur.com/gallery/ywKZuaB

Polyducks

16:50

@Geobits I'm going to see how much I can do over the weekend. I was drawing sprites today in my free time between code

Nathan Merrill

and then, you could sort/filter challenges based on the average difficulty rating

Cyoce

@AlexA. Yeah, or it could just be one of the settings in the userscript to use the official theme instead of the userscript's.

Nathan Merrill

a bonus is if it was actually part of the site is that people would be motivated to make more difficult challenges

Geobits

@Doorknob Whoever labeled it 39000x39000 doesn't seem to know what that means.

Doorknob

@Geobits er that would be around 1450 megapixels, no?

Geobits

16:53

Somewhere around there.

The image is 39mp though, 7216x5412.

Dragonrage

added in the rules and link

Polyducks

@Dragonrage the other downside is that the jquery is all compressed. And it's jquery -vomits-

Geobits

> Should I require a video of it playing/picture of finished games?

You should probably test/score them yourself, tbh.

Dragonrage

ok

Polyducks

GUYS. The unicorn game uses the konami code. Trying to work out where it goes now

Dragonrage

17:00

@Polyducks is this all you need to play the game? ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.7.1/jquery.js

@Polyducks if you enter it while playing the game, it toggles rain on/off

Polyducks

haha oh my god

up up, down down, left right, left right, b, a, enter

Plays Rick Astley

@Dragonrage It uses the jquery library and Phaser to run the game

@Dragonrage it's included in the page source. The user doesn't need to do anything

epicTCK

@Dragonrage not rain. its a "Golden particle effect" and it is included if you do it in menu too.

Nathan Merrill

@Rainbolt this literally happened at my job.

Dragonrage

17:20

well, i want to work on my question more, but i just got a huge pile of work dumped on me :(

Alex A.

@Polyducks And now I have the 8-bit version of Never Gonna Give You Up stuck in my head. ಠ_ಠ

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Q: building an adding machine

i'm having real problems how to build an adding machine. its supposed to have 5 inputs and 3 outputs. output should give a sum of positive signals (all binary, so with 2 positive inputs it should give 010 output. Anyone can help me out and provide me with a adding machine (only AND, OR, NOT ga...

logic-gates

Alex A.

17:45

For anyone who likes solo guitar music:

Sandra Bae covers Rylynn by Andy McKee

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@GraceNote o/

Grace Note

Yo

Alex A.

How's things?

Grace Note

Busy and busy.

Alex A.

I can certainly imagine!

Nathan Merrill

Grace Note here just to chat?

It must be april fools

Dragonrage

17:57

refraining from using bad puns

Alex A.

More amazing solo guitar music

Sherlock9

Badly mangled bilingual pun: The Indonesian phrase for "thank you" is "terima kasih", which can be translated either as "receive (my) gratitude" or more literally as "receive (my) grace". So, in badly retranslated Indonesian, "thank-you note" => "kartu terima kasih" => "receive grace note"

Alex A.

:D

PhiNotPi

This reminds me, my band director several years ago used to intentionally put fake names in the concert program... stuff like "Grace Note" as a flute player, "Erin Reed" as an oboe player, "Justin Time" as a percussionist, etc.

zyabin101

@Polyducks I'm back.

To reiterate, the settings are: attacker "network", defender "human", and game URL is "ondras.firebaseio.com/tetris/ppcga00".

Or alternatively, type "ondras" and "ppcga00" into the text fields.

Sherlock9

18:14

Ah, fiddlesticks. My pun might not work because "kasih" is better translated as "love".

@AlexA. Thanks for the music :D

Alex A.

:)

Sherlock9

It provided nice background music while I frantically determined if my bad pun was even half-valid. Turns out the word for grace could be "kasih karunia" so, close enough

At any rate, perhaps I'll leave the goofy bilingual puns until I have a better grasp of my own country's language :D

flawr

@AlexA. Clever idea of using the capo on only some of the strings.

Alex A.

@flawr Yeah! Not uncommon, really. Usually it's a banjo capo that's used.

flawr

I never thought of this but it totally makes sense=)

Sherlock9

18:22

When next I own a capo, I should give that a try

flawr

when I next own a capo and a guitar, I should give that a try

Alex A.

I have a spider capo, which is this goofy contraption that can act as a capo on any combination of the 6 strings

flawr

So you can decide which strings should be pressed down?

Alex A.

Yes

flawr

That is genious!

Alex A.

18:24

It's pretty neat :)

flawr

Do you also have one that can be computer controlled?

Alex A.

No, that sounds crazy

Do those exist??

flawr

That would be neat.

Idk^^

Alex A.

Oh, okay

flawr

"Resonant Chamber" - Animusic.com

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An oldie.

Alex A.

18:25

I've seen that. It's really cool.

El'endia Starman

yeah

I've seen basically all of Animusic's videos on their YouTube channel.

flawr

Just found this again, but unfortunately no full length one:

Speaking Piano enters the climate debate

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TimmyD

Dang, that adage about "reputation is inversely proportional to golfing effort" is true. My easy-peasy infinite I/O answer is my highest-voted answer ever.

Alex A.

:O

My highest voted answer is my language showcase for R

TimmyD

Also, new challenge (that skipped the sandbox, gasp!) posted

Alex A.

18:36

I'm reading it now :)

zyabin101

C'mon, @NewMainPosts! Don't fail @TimmyD now! >_<

Sherlock9

My highest voted answer is still the one on returning a movie length in human readable format, followed by the answer to my quipu question as a very distant second

Alex A.

@TimmyD +1 I like it :D

flawr

Robot Quadrotors Perform James Bond Theme

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Maltysen

@TimmyD answered and upvoted

flawr

18:38

(Regarding computer controlled gutars=)

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Q: Ravenity of Cube Distance Numbers

Inspired by this Numberphile entry Background The cube distance numbers of an integer n are defined here as the set of integers that are x³ distance away for a given x. For a simple example, with n=100 and x=2, the cube distance numbers are {92,108}. This can be extended into a larger set simp...

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zyabin101

Our beloved @NewMainPosts tungsten'd @TimmyD's post in 11 mins, with 6 upvotes. WAI NMP WAI? ;_;

flawr

@zyabin101 Would you prefer to get a notification from NMP 11 mins before a challenge was posted?

PhiNotPi

Yes

TimmyD

@Maltysen That was dang fast.

flawr

18:44

That would be sooo creapy.

zyabin101

@flawr New Main Posts are a bot, not a future seer.

mınxomaτ

Oh this is beautiful: thedailywtf.com/articles/a-meaty-problem

Maltysen

roflamo

TimmyD

@mınxomaτ submits as answer to infinite I/O challenge

flawr

@zyabin101 Not mutually exclusive.

Little Talks Guitar Cover by Lego Mindstorms EV3

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Alex A.

18:56

@TimmyD My answer to your challenge got me the last vote I needed to get the silver math badge. :D

zyabin101

@AlexA. \o/

flawr

Silver FTW

Nobody needs Gold

TimmyD

@AlexA. Woo!

zyabin101

4 votes and -3 answers later, you'll get the -random badge. I don't know your progress on #math.

Alex A.

Oh you're right, I guess I do only need 4 more votes to get the bronze random badge.

TimmyD

18:59

@AlexA. -1, doesn't have a link to TIO ;-)

Alex A.

@TimmyD I honestly considered it.

Rickroll recital

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