The Nineteenth Byte

Alex A.

02:00

Wait, I shouldn't celebrate that; I have an account there.

Downgoat

._.

Quill

The Language Learning proposal is about to go into private beta too

Alex A.

woot

Downgoat

What I'm wondering is why it hasn't been closed yet

Quill

@Downgoat screw that, why hasn't lifehacks been closed yet

Doorknob

02:01

Speaking of A51 proposals... continues plugging la jbobauti'i

Alex A.

Speaking of A51 proposals, my Tatar language proposal got deleted because there were too few example questions. ;-;

Downgoat

@Quill 2.1 isn't that bad

0 is just... wow...

Geobits

I don't think he meant because of qpd...

Quill

yeah, there's more to screw up than qpd

Downgoat

everything else is excelent ...

(except my spelling of course)

Geobits

02:03

Not stat-wise. Generally-terrible-site-wise.

Downgoat

what's so bad about lifehacks?

Geobits

I tried participating on lifehacks when it first came up. It has a lot of problems that I don't think can really be solved.

Downgoat

it has 100% answered...

Doorknob

@Downgoat I have always thought and always will think that Lifehacks is a terrible idea as a SE Q&A site

7

Geobits

There's not even a good definition of life hacks imo.

Downgoat

02:05

ok

Doorknob

in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, Nov 22 '14 at 4:30, by Doorknob

Arbitrary Area 51 comment of the day: I highly doubt Lifehacks will succeed. They're going to have to basically nuke the Too Broad close option, and it'd probably just devolve into a forum-like collection of "tips and tricks."

Downgoat

26 secs ago, by Downgoat

ok

Quill

@Geobits I had a question closed and I tried to trace back the reason, there wasn't a close reason that was valid, turns out they closed my question because it attracted low quality answers

Downgoat

hahaha

Zach Gates

Punctuation matters

Downgoat

02:11

@ZachGates well it'sreally a "For " that is missing.

Zach Gates

@Downgoat Or "Rachael Ray finds inspiration in cooking, her family, and her dog"

mınxomaτ

^

Downgoat

^

Pin Crash

Yeah, cooking for her family and her dog would be a little creepy

Zach Gates

^

Downgoat

02:15

^

Easterly Irk

^

Alex A.

I just found a friend of mine from community college on Stack Overflow.

Geobits

Or "Rachael Ray finds inspiration in cooking (her family and) her dog."

Alex A.

Or maybe the sentence is exactly how it's meant to be and people are just assuming it's wrong.

Has anyone looked for Rachael Ray's family and dog recently?

Pin Crash

LOL

Downgoat

02:16

._.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Technically she is part of her family >_>

Downgoat

o_O

tac

@AlexA. nice!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

bai

Alex A.

@tac Do you use Vim at all?

Geobits

02:22

@Downgoat Unfortunately, that isn't a real magazine cover :(

Easterly Irk

@AlexA. yes

Alex A.

@EasterlyIrk Nice! I'm still getting used to it but I like it.

Easterly Irk

@Downgoat uses it I know.

Alex A.

I had been using Atom but I've found that I actually prefer Vim.

Easterly Irk

He was editing avocadOS with it.

I still kinda like textwrangler better.

Alex A.

02:23

I haven't used TextWrangler but I've heard good things.

Downgoat

^^^^

vim is the best

except that I can't figure out how to go to the beginning of a line...

tac

@AlexA. I almost tried to learn it once, but I sorta gave up because I like Atom too much. If I had to switch to a text-mode line editor, it'd probably be Emacs just because of Elisp.

mınxomaτ

Atom is like VSC. Made to look "nice" but the performance is absolute garbage.

Downgoat

^

Easterly Irk

^

Alex A.

02:24

@mınxomaτ What's VSC?

mınxomaτ

@AlexA. An Atom clone from MS.

tac

@mınxomaτ :c

Alex A.

Oh gross, why would they do that?

Let me guess: Atom runs basically on pared down Chromium, so VSC runs on IE. Yeah?

Downgoat

@AlexA. I installed your vim plugin but it errors for me:

Error detected while processing function InsertLicense:
line   21:
No matching license found for `abbr`
Press ENTER or type command to continue

mınxomaτ

@AlexA. What, no. VSC is not made for Windows.

Doorknob

02:26

@Downgoat Probably because there's no license called abbr?

Alex A.

@Downgoat The docs say something along the lines of "where abbr refers to the license abbreviation"

Downgoat

oh :|

:D it workes

Alex A.

\o/

(s/e//)

Downgoat

> Do What The Fuck You Want To Public License

._.

Easterly Irk

wtfpl.net

Alex A.

02:27

Are you not familiar with that license? It's pretty popular. That's what the NERDTree plugin is licensed under.

tac

@AlexA. Actually, Atom uses electron.atom.io

Alex A.

@tac Yeah, Electron uses Chromium

mınxomaτ

@Downgoat It's a rude version of the unlicense.

tac

throw new Array({} + new Array({}) + new Array(" " - 5 + []) + {})
Uncaught ["[object Object][object Object]-5[object Object]"]

ok js

mınxomaτ

throw javaScript.away();

11

Downgoat

02:31

@tac why are you using the array constructor O_o

@mınxomaτ ಠ__________________________________________________________________________ಠ

tac

@Downgoat throw new Date(at.Downgoat);

Downgoat

D:

> Undefined is not an object: at

why has SE not added downstars yet @StackExchange ಠ_ಠ

Alex A.

@mınxomaτ trashBin.insert('JavaScript');

Doorknob

@Downgoat but I thought Everything is an Object™

Downgoat

@Doorknob undefined is an object unless it has not been defined with or without a value

tac

02:32

@Doorknob undefined.prototype = null;

Downgoat

1 min ago, by Downgoat

> Undefined is not an object: at

s/at/trashBin/

@tac overwriting undefined is bad as it can lead to undefined beahvior

Doorknob

@AlexA. typeof JavaScript //=> "garbage" :P

Downgoat

> typeof JavaScript
< "undefined"

tac

@Downgoat :P

mınxomaτ

@Doorknob I wondered for a while what kind of operator "//=>" could be. I should go to sleep ._.

Doorknob

02:35

@mınxomaτ int i = 10; while (i --> 0) { printf("%d\n", i); }

Downgoat

> var undefined = {};
> undefined.foo
< TypeError: undefined is not an object

wtf JavaScript

Doorknob

@Doorknob the arrow operator! :P

mınxomaτ

@Doorknob Actually, the "goes to" operator ;-)

tac

typeof null // -> "object"
typeof undefined // -> undefined

mınxomaτ

Which, btw., is valid JS, but Atom's JS highlighting breaks when you type x --> instead of x-- > ಠ_ಠ

El'endia Starman

02:36

@Downgoat That's...just sad. Last activity was yesterday and the last activity before that was 12 days ago.

tac

@mınxomaτ it's that package's highlighting. Atom itself can't highlight junk

mınxomaτ

@tac Install atom, open JS file in atom, basic highlighting breaks at -->, uninstall atom.

Downgoat

Install atom, realize you should be using vim, uninstall atom, use vim

tac

6 hours ago, by flawr

Great, can't we just call for a vote if anyone is against keeping the current set of mods?

Nathan Merrill

I like the concept of Atom, which feels very similar to the concept of Arch. However, they both deal with the same problems of package bugs and cross package incompatibility

Downgoat

02:40

@tac but.. #DowngoatForMod2016? D:

New Main Posts

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Q: Split a byte array into a bit array

Write a function that when given a buffer b and a number of bits n, splits the buffer into chunks of n bits. Right-pad the last chunk with 0s up to n bits. e.g. Given the buffer (each char = 1 byte), f0oBaR And n = 5, return [12, 24, 24, 6, 30, 16, 19, 1, 10, 8] This is because the above ...

bitwise

Downgoat

Welcome to PPCG, this is a good first post, however all of our challenges require an objective winning criterion, like code-golf, in order to be on topic. — FryAmTheEggman 1 min ago

ah, ninja'd

Geobits

And obsoleted :P

Nathan Merrill

lol

shortest close duration

tac

@Downgoat well, I'd vote for you, but the current mods are pretty great

Nathan Merrill

02:46

how many slots do we have?

Alex A.

4

Downgoat

@tac that is true, I'd be voting for the current mods

El'endia Starman

Four slots, but three picks per person.

Nathan Merrill

I'll be voting for anybody that didn't change their name

tac

@NathanMerrill D:

Downgoat

02:47

@NathanMerrill :D

Alex A.

@NathanMerrill \o/

quartata

That eliminates everyone but the current mods.

Pin Crash

^

tac

^

quartata

Well, I suppose that works

Nathan Merrill

02:48

well, not all of the mods

El'endia Starman

@quartata NUH-UH!

Downgoat

^

Nathan Merrill

^

Alex A.

@NathanMerrill The active ones

Pin Crash

v

Alex A.

02:48

hi

quartata

@Downgoat you changed your name

Nathan Merrill

I'd hardly call @HelkaHomba inactive

El'endia Starman

Helka isn't a mod.

Alex A.

@NathanMerrill He also isn't a mod...

Oh ninja

El'endia Starman

He has a blue face, not a blue name.

Geobits

02:49

Who changed their name? Besides Manna Thriller of course.

Helka Homba

Hmm?

Nathan Merrill

oh, I totally thought he was a mod

well, you aren't getting my vote anyways

Alex A.

Wait, really?

Nathan Merrill

yeah, I did

Alex A.

Huh. Okay ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Helka Homba

02:50

@NathanMerrill Not the first time that's happened

Nathan Merrill

well, you are a pillar of the community

Geobits

Wait, so Doorknob won't be getting a vote? He used to be something else a long time ago.

El'endia Starman

@AlexA. A few low-quality contributors on C.SE have thought that basically all high-rep users were mods. :P

Geobits

And has changed it a couple times for winter.

Downgoat

@quartata well for like a day...

Alex A.

02:51

@El'endiaStarman haha well, they at least have some mod privileges...

tac

> Display name may only be changed once every 30 days; you may change again in 8 days

Geobits

Huh. Weird :P

Nathan Merrill

@HelkaHomba I do like poking fun at you and your name change, but I hope you don't take it seriously

Downgoat

@tac ask a mod to change your name, they can do it whenever they want

Alex A.

@Geobits If your parent site was still PPCG, you'd be stuck as "I Go Best." :P

El'endia Starman

02:52

@AlexA. That they do, but it was still amusing to see them say "A mod closed my question!" when it was 5 normal users... :P

Alex A.

XD

tac

@Downgoat I can wait 8 days :P

quartata

From Vihan to Downgoat to several anagrams of Downgoat to Vihan then back to Downgoat

Downgoat

@quartata don't forget the small caps

quartata

Ah, right. And the two avatar changes.

Downgoat

02:53

avatar change?

El'endia Starman

@Downgoat Caveat: mod must be a mod on the desired parent site. Though I probably could change your name in chat...

Downgoat

I don't remember changing my avatar

Easterly Irk

^, but s/my/his/

Doorknob

@El'endiaStarman no, if he has a Christianity account you can change it there and make it apply network-wide

Nathan Merrill

@Doorknob the powers

quartata

02:54

From a ghost -> downvote -> downgoat

Geobits

@Downgoat Were you not originally Vihan with some purplish avatar?

Downgoat

I don't have Christianity account yet

El'endia Starman

@Doorknob Yeah, just found that out myself.

GamrCorps

@Downgoat You used to have as a downvote-form of Digital Trauma's

Downgoat

@quartata I became a ghost for haloween

I think I had a different avatar before that

Nathan Merrill

02:55

next up: Mods can create accounts for SE users

Helka Homba

@NinjaBearMonkey -> Okra yen Benjamin

Geobits

@AlexA. Parent site? I'm not sure what you mean.

Nathan Merrill

now, all of those mods on the inactive Beer site can change everybody's name :)

El'endia Starman

@NathanMerrill Now that would be pretty open to abuse... :P

Doorknob

Dec 31 '15 at 21:38, by Alex A.

climbs out of user's window Oh, so we're not doing that? :/

Downgoat

02:56

next up: Mods can vote on behalf of a user to counteract voting fraud

Nathan Merrill

@Doorknob what a resurrection

Alex A.

@Geobits Chat profiles are associated with main sites. Currently the parent site for your chat profile is Parenting.SE, whereas mine is PPCG.

Geobits

Nope. Never heard of it.

Downgoat

@Downgoat recursive reply?

El'endia Starman

Pretty sure Geobits is being very facetious... :P

Downgoat

02:57

@Downgoat yes I can?

El'endia Starman

@Downgoat Yes, you can.

@El'endiaStarman A

B

Easterly Irk

c

Downgoat

d

Easterly Irk

@Downgoat e

Downgoat

f

Geobits

02:58

z

Easterly Irk

ಠ_ಠ

Downgoat

NullPointerException

Easterly Irk

:28422745

Doorknob

ð

Easterly Irk

ಠ_ಠ

@Downgoat ð_ð

Downgoat

02:59

@EasterlyIrk ¯\_( ͡ಠ ͜ʖ ͡ಠ) _/¯

El'endia Starman

... this is not my work!

Easterly Irk

This is a complete waste of time.

Alex A.

@Geobits if (has_attr(Geobits, "trolling") && Geobits.trolling) print(ಠ_ಠ)

Easterly Irk

LETS DO MOARE

Downgoat

> MOARE

Doorknob

02:59

@AlexA. Redundant if statement optimized out

Downgoat

@AlexA. -1 pls use ternary

Nathan Merrill

do mods have any other cross-site powers?

Geobits

@AlexA. That language looks atrocious. On that note. Goodnight!

Alex A.

@Doorknob Compiler is too good!

Easterly Irk

@AlexA. Shorter (22 bytes): if(Geboits)print(ಠ_ಠ).

Alex A.

03:00

@NathanMerrill Nope

@EasterlyIrk lel

Doorknob

> Geboits

Alex A.

@Geobits Is fake language. Good night!

Doorknob

pronounced "jee-boyts"

Downgoat

even shorter: ಠ_ಠ(ಠ_ಠ)ಠ_ಠ(ಠ_ಠ)

Alex A.

@Doorknob I really enjoy that

Nathan Merrill

03:00

@AlexA. actually, if you consider chat cross-site, then you have flagging powers

just thought of that

Doorknob

Chat diamond is based upon chat network. We're blue on chat.SE, but not chat.meta.SE nor chat.SO.

(Exception: SO diamond applies for both chat.SO and chat.SE, because TL.)

Nathan Merrill

right, but you all get notifications of flags (and I assume, you can all resolve the flags)

Downgoat

how do you can a diamong on chat,emta.se

Doorknob

Be a SE employee

Downgoat

how do yo be an se empolee

Doorknob

03:02

@NathanMerrill Yes. And all the other mod powers (freezing/deleting a room, chat suspensions, etc. etc.)

Alex A.

@Downgoat Type better

Downgoat

@AlexA. blame hooves >_>

Alex A.

:P

Easterly Irk

^

Nathan Merrill

so, chat room powers are cross site, name changing is cross site

Easterly Irk

03:02

yes

Nathan Merrill

...anything else?

Easterly Irk

Yes.

Downgoat

Yes.

Easterly Irk

Mods get spiffy blueness and diamonds after their names.

I WANT THEM

Doorknob

da ba dee da ba dai

Downgoat

03:03

@NathanMerrill Mods get a mod hat which they can wear on which ever SE site they visit

quartata

They do get an RL mod hat.

But I don't think hats should be your motivator for running

Unless the hat was made of gold or something.

Doorknob

Can confirm, wearing hat made of gold

Downgoat

O_O

Nathan Merrill

well, I can sell a hat on ebay. I can't sell my fake internet points

actually, I could sell a guaranteed bounty

quartata

that's probably against the TOS

Nathan Merrill

03:08

maybe? I doubt they really considered it to be a problem

Downgoat

does stackexchange have an official url shortnre?

Doorknob

s.tk is a thing but not official

Mama Fun Roll

0

A: Golf you a quine for great good!

DUP, 51 bytes 0"0.[34,0[$;$][,1+]#]$!%%!"0.[34,0[$;$][,1+]#]$!%%! Try it here. Well, DUP quines are possible, just really, really, long. I'll have to golf some more.

Doorknob

102

Q: What shortened URLs are available through s.tk?

It was announced on the Stack Exchange Podcast episode #23 (at 1:05:26) that Stack Exchange has its own URL shortener, http://s.tk/. Users can't create their own, they can only use the ones that are built-in. What shortened URLs are available through it? Return to FAQ index

support faq hyperlinks s.tk short-links

Downgoat

how do I use it?

nevermind, I'll RTFM...

Mama Fun Roll

03:09

Forgot to tell y'all that I found a DUP quine!!!

Doorknob

Actually I think that's semi-official

Quasi-official...?

Downgoat

how do I make it go to a certain question

@MamaFunRoll Didn't you say that yesterday?

Doorknob

@Downgoat you can't

http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/q/<###>

Downgoat

:(

Doorknob

best you can do

Downgoat

03:11

meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/q/8474/9498 is too long to fit into my nomination post

Doorknob

goo.gl

I did this in my Stack Overflow nomination for space purposes :P

Mama Fun Roll

@Downgoat Did I? Whelp I forgot :P

Downgoat

> Could you change the link to just be something like meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/q/8474/9498? I feel uncomfortable clicking links on url shorteners.

people think I'm going to be rickrolling them with goo.gl links I guess

Mama Fun Roll

Dangit someone delete the DUP onebox I just posted!

Downgoat

??

Doorknob

03:12

All I got was a lighthearted comment :P

> You used a URL shortener and shall not get my vote until it is remedied! Only kidding. You used “its” properly. You’re a good fit for the job. – Ryan O'Hara♦ Feb 11 '14 at 4:32

Downgoat

why do people not like url shrotners :'(

Mama Fun Roll

@Downgoat teh spellz is gud

Downgoat

my speling sucks

> I'm not a good at speling >_>

I even said it in my nomination

2 hours ago, by Downgoat

4

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Randomly Spell A Word Wrong code-golf string random Inspired by this CR question Spec What the probabilities of misspelling a word are: 50% of the time don't change the output 25% of the time remove a random character 25% of the time duplicate a random character The chance for removing/du...

does that look rasdt to post?

Mama Fun Roll

@Downgoat rasdt? really???

Downgoat

8 mins ago, by Downgoat

> I'm not a good at speling >_>

Bernard Meurer

03:36

Is anyone here a photoshopster?

Maltysen

@BernardMeurer i'm a gimper

Bernard Meurer

@Maltysen Even better :)

Doorknob

I use gimp to draw peppers on pictures with that one brush

Bernard Meurer

Do you know of the possibility of editing this photo so it says "Ceci n'est pas une page"?

Maltysen

@Doorknob best brush ever

Bernard Meurer

03:40

I want a clever 404 page :p

Maltysen

If you can find a similar font

Doorknob

myfonts.com/WhatTheFont

Zach Gates

@BernardMeurer I am

quartata

@Doorknob what's your WM

Doorknob

i3

Bernard Meurer

03:43

@Doorknob Nice one

@ZachGates The challenge is set :p

My Ham DJ

I like i3, but the jkl; instead of hjkl bugs me too much.

quartata

A tiling WM? oh dear

Doorknob

@MyHamDJ The default config file is meant to be changed

github.com/KeyboardFire/dotfiles/blob/master/.i3/_config

quartata

I could never get the hang of those

My Ham DJ

@Doorknob True, but my linux installs don't last super long, so I'm constantly redoing it.

I tend to break my installs really often.

Bernard Meurer

03:45

Reward: 5USD for the best Ceci n'est pas une page

Doorknob

@MyHamDJ That's why you should have a dotfiles repo :P

My Ham DJ

When you say "dotfiles" you mean /.i3/config, .vimrc, .bashrc etc.?

Doorknob

yeah

github.com/KeyboardFire/dotfiles

2

My Ham DJ

Why do you have nnoreamp gj j?

Doorknob

Because j is mapped to gj :P

My Ham DJ

03:49

But what's the point?

Doorknob

gj respects line wrapping. I find it annoying that the default behavior of j is to go down to the next line disregarding soft line wraps

Alex A.

@Doorknob THIS BOTHERS ME SO MUCH HOW DOES FIX

Doorknob

@AlexA. github.com/KeyboardFire/dotfiles/blob/master/.vimrc#L80-L83

My Ham DJ

OMG that's amazing!

That's always bugged me too, but I didn't realize you could fix it!

Alex A.

@Doorknob +600 bounty

Mama Fun Roll

03:51

0

A: Lossy Sorting (Implement Dropsort)

RETURN, 29 bytes (noncompetitive) [␃$a:␌[$¥][$a;-<[%][$a:␌]?]#] Try it here. Anonymous lambda that leaves result on Stack2. Usage: 1 2 5 4 3 7[␃$a:␌[$¥][$a;-<[%][$a:␌]?]#]! NOTE: Make sure to paste this string using the Insert String button, which will transform the control pictures into t...

My Ham DJ

@Doorknob As a fellow vim lover, I'd love to get your thoughts on a vim-inspired golf language I'm working on.

Mama Fun Roll

Figured out how to map efficiently in RETURN.

Lesson: Having 2 stacks is awesome!

Doorknob

@MyHamDJ I'd be delighted to hear your ideas (I've thought of a vim golfing language too before, and it's an interesting idea, but I've never actually really deliberated much about one), but it's getting really late here, and I'm about to go to sleep. Feel free to ping me, and I'll try to read and respond to what you have to say as soon as possible :)

My Ham DJ

@Doorknob Okay. I've already started on it, now I'm just trying to figure out what to add to it.

I'll hop on chat sometime tomorrow to get your thoughts.

Easterly Irk

Zach Gates

03:58

@BernardMeurer

Bernard Meurer

@ZachGates Absolute legend

Zach Gates

;)

Bernard Meurer

Email me ([email protected]) if you're interested on getting 5 bucks :p

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