The Nineteenth Byte

SuperJedi224

21:00

I'm considering running.

Dennis

@mbomb007 Currently writing up my nomination.

flawr

Tesla Lightning Quad

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Easterly Irk

27 mins ago, by Doorknob

Oh yeah, I have to write my nomination

27 mins ago, by Doorknob

I totally didn't forget to do that

mınxomaτ

@Dennis Hm. After adding it, it still fails with a "no metadata found" error when trying to install something.

Dennis

Which URL are you using?

mınxomaτ

21:07

http://download.mono-project.com/repo/centos-beta/

The main URL from the YMP for openSUSE (http://download.mono-project.com/repo/centos/) also fails.

Dennis

I tried, and sudo zypper in mono-core would have installed the new version if it didn't require a vendor change.

Which package are you trying to install?

CoolestVeto

Actually, that link is exactly the same as the image as the one in the other challenge. ಠ_ಠ — CoolestVeto 14 secs ago

mınxomaτ

@Dennis mono-complete. The "default" mono-complete for openSUSE is severely outdated.

CoolestVeto

@mınxomaτ mono-complete doesn't work on RPi.

Like, at all.

mınxomaτ

@CoolestVeto That statement contains not enough information. What distro? What mono version does it install?

Aqua Tart

21:12

Wait, when did the election start?

CoolestVeto

@mınxomaτ Raspbian Wheezy.

Dennis

@mınxomaτ It should update automatically, but try running sudo zypper up before the install command.

CoolestVeto

I have no idea which version.

mınxomaτ

@CoolestVeto It works if you install it properly. Debian packages for mono are even more outdated than SUSE's :D

CoolestVeto

@mınxomaτ send help

mınxomaτ

21:14

@CoolestVeto ?

CoolestVeto

I've looked up how to do it.

Aqua Tart

I didn't think the election would be so soon...

mınxomaτ

@CoolestVeto Add PGP key, add wheezy deb repo, update and then install?

CoolestVeto

All the mono pages include adding some repo source lists (which didn't work) and just "getting it normally".

@mınxomaτ Tried, failed, cried.

Easterly Irk

@AquaTart Me neither.

mınxomaτ

21:15

@CoolestVeto That works 100%. Sorry, but you're doing something wrong.

CoolestVeto

@mınxomaτ ;-;

I follow the directions on the mono page, yeah?

'Cause that's what I did.

mınxomaτ

@CoolestVeto You said that "adding" failed. Which is impossible, cause it's just a file operation.

But it is impossible to help without knowing what error you got :D

CoolestVeto

Hold on. Lemme get the error message (I was actually doing that this morning. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ )

Semi-ninja'd?

Easterly Irk

FULLY NINJA'ED OR BUST!!!!

SuperJedi224

Does the site let you save drafts of nominations?

Rainbolt

21:20

I'll test

Oh, can I not nominate others?

Easterly Irk

@Rainbolt are you thinking of running?

@Rainbolt nope...

:(

Rainbolt

Well I'll start drafting a nomination for myself and then leave the page, to see if it saves

Sorry guys if I accidentally run for office

(And even more sorry if I get elected)

Your draft is not saved @SuperJedi224

CoolestVeto

pi@vtcpi:~ $ sudo apt-get install -fy mono-complete
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 mono-complete : Depends: mono-devel (= 4.2.3.4-0xamarin2) but it is not going to be installed

@mınxomaτ

I've followed those back - they start looping in dependencies.

Rainbolt

However, if you nominate yourself, withdraw, and then begin to nominate yourself a second time, it will recall what you wrote. (@SuperJedi224)

mınxomaτ

@CoolestVeto Uhm, you just started the install. Where are you adding the repo?

CoolestVeto

21:25

I already added the keys as specified here.

mınxomaτ

@CoolestVeto I mean creating the mono-xamarin.list

CoolestVeto

pi@vtcpi:~ $ ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
mono-xamarin.list  raspi.list

mınxomaτ

What exact debian version is this?

CoolestVeto

Oh, right.

I have a spliced OS.

>.>

0

Q: I spliced Raspbian and Kali by accident... should I be worried?

So, I recently got a Raspberry Pi. I installed Raspbian Wheezy on it immediately, got it all set up with SSH and VNC, and ready to go. One day I decided that it would be a brilliant idea to install Kali on it (friend had suggested it for whatever reason; I later decided against for obvious reason...

I installed Raspbian.

mınxomaτ

@Dennis I'm currently resetting the server to a clean install and will try again.

CoolestVeto

21:30

But I installed that thing. >.>

Dennis

@mınxomaτ Are you trying on 13.2 or 42.1?

mınxomaτ

13.2

CoolestVeto

I really question the suggester's intent. >.>

mınxomaτ

You should use ALARM.

;-)

CoolestVeto

Waddat?

mınxomaτ

21:31

Arch linux for ARM

flawr

These are some relaxing gifs:

reddit.com/r/brushybrushy

CoolestVeto

@mınxomaτ Eh. If there was a simpler way to install that, I'd probably get it.

SuperJedi224

Also, I'm currently adding turtle graphics to ForceLang.

mınxomaτ

@CoolestVeto Also this questions contains quite a lot of noise.

Zach Gates

That moment when you have exactly the maximum amount of characters in a post.

CoolestVeto

21:35

@mınxomaτ I'm bad about that.

Plus, Kali is really suspicious. D:

I don't like that.

/me does a dist-upgrade.

Dennis

/me watches as you format and reinstall in frustration

CoolestVeto

/me cri

The only libs that were updated because of the dist change was pypy.

O.o

Ohhhhh geez.

I just rebooted from ssh.

cri

phase

21:50

We need a new mod with some good memes.

mınxomaτ

@Dennis OK, that worked. How can I ignore cert errors while doing a zypper install (ie. answer all cert questions automatically with i(gnore)?

Dennis

For third-part repos, you kinda have to when you update for the first time. After that, a certificate error should make you suspicious.

mınxomaτ

Retrieving package libmonoboehm-2_0-1-4.2.3.4-0.xamarin.1.x86_64                                                                 (1/120),   4.3 MiB ( 15.2 MiB unpacked)
Retrieving: libmonoboehm-2_0-1-4.2.3.4-0.xamarin.1.x86_64.rpm ......................................................................................[done (219.7 KiB/s)]
libmonoboehm-2_0-1-4.2.3.4-0.xamarin.1.x86_64.rpm:
    Header V4 RSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID d3d831ef: NOKEY
    V4 RSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID d3d831ef: NOKEY

libmonoboehm-2_0-1-4.2.3.4-0.xamarin.1.x86_64 (mono-beta): Signature verification failed [4-Signatur…

That's the error I get. The command was sudo zypper install -l -n git gcc mono-complete.

Dennis

OK, if mono doesn't sign its packages, you'll have to ignore it.

mınxomaτ

Well, it is the beta repo, those might not be signed.

Dennis

22:00

Possible.

SuperJedi224

Well, goodbye for now

CoolestVeto

22:29

ಠ_ಠ dist-upgrade fixed nothing.

Bernard Meurer

Stop using apt-get

CoolestVeto

/me passes a magnet over the microSD.

Bernard Meurer

It's crap

CoolestVeto

Whoops.

@BernardMeurer wow

Such negative.

Bernard Meurer

I'll purge it's existence

CoolestVeto

22:30

Much wow.

Bernard Meurer

Even if I die in the process I'll take apt-get with me

mınxomaτ

^

Bernard Meurer

Back to Arch @mınxomaτ

dat aur

El'endia Starman

Shunting-yard algorithm

In computer science, the shunting-yard algorithm is a method for parsing mathematical expressions specified in infix notation. It can be used to produce output in Reverse Polish notation (RPN) or as an abstract syntax tree (AST). The algorithm was invented by Edsger Dijkstra and named the "shunting yard" algorithm because its operation resembles that of a railroad shunting yard. Dijkstra first described the Shunting Yard Algorithm in the Mathematisch Centrum report MR 34/61. Like the evaluation of RPN, the shunting yard algorithm is stack-based. Infix expressions are the form of mathematical notation...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@El'endiaStarman oh yeah

mınxomaτ

22:32

@BernardMeurer ALARM is great and will fix all his problems. Forever.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Is there a way to see your candidate score without posting something?

Aqua Tart

There's an SEDE query.

Martin Büttner

I think there's a SEDE query

ninja'd

Bernard Meurer

@mınxomaτ ALARM?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

where? o_o

Aqua Tart

22:33

Here I'll dig it up for you

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

thanks :D

mınxomaτ

@BernardMeurer archlinuxarm.org

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

If I get below a 9 I'm not even going to try

Bernard Meurer

@mınxomaτ Oooooh, that's what you're referring to

Martin Büttner

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ data.stackexchange.com/codegolf/queries?q=candidate+score

Bernard Meurer

22:34

He's on a Raspberry Pi?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

thanks! :D

mınxomaτ

@BernardMeurer Yes

Bernard Meurer

@mınxomaτ Arch on the RPi runs like a baby

mınxomaτ

I've used alarm on my Toshiba AC100 for more than 4 years now. Never had a problem.

Aqua Tart

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Candidate scores don't say a lot about the candidate TBH.

mınxomaτ

22:34

(ARMv7h).

Aqua Tart

I wouldn't let them discourage you.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AquaTart I know, but it's certainly a factor.

mınxomaτ

@AquaTart Says the 14/40 :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

That can't be right, I have 17

Aqua Tart

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Mortarboards count quite a bit.

Bernard Meurer

22:36

@mınxomaτ It's a shame though because Debian is pretty good for stability

But apt is bleh

El'endia Starman

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ: In any case, you have a higher candidate score than I do. I'm still contemplating nominating myself though.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AquaTart So isn't it possible to go over 40 then?

Aqua Tart

No.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@El'endiaStarman I would vote for you.

El'endia Starman

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Therefore, go ahead and nominate yourself. :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

22:38

@El'endiaStarman But then we'd have the (forgot-his-name) effect: the votes would be distributed and (neither/none) of us would win.

Aqua Tart

?

El'endia Starman

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ SE uses the STV system, which doesn't really have that problem.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@El'endiaStarman "STV"?

Aqua Tart

Single transferable vote

mınxomaτ

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Must.. resist.. to.. make... Trump joke.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

22:39

@mınxomaτ That would be yuge m8

@AquaTart o okai

Aqua Tart

@MartinBüttner Are you working on your nomination?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

please say yes

El'endia Starman

How the first Christianity.SE election went. (It's a visualization and explanation of the STV process as well.)

Of all four candidates who were elected, I had the fewest first-pick votes.

Martin Büttner

@AquaTart there's no rush, is there? ;)

Aqua Tart

@MartinBüttner Nah, not really.

Just curious

I'm sure it'll be a 1200 char masterpiece

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

22:47

@El'endiaStarman Did testimony play a part of the elections?

El'endia Starman

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Not that I'm aware of.

Aqua Tart

Can candidates post questions for the Election Q&A?

I assume so

El'endia Starman

Well yeah, why not?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

"How am I a great person?" "I'm better than you, that's why!"

--Aqua Tart Q&A, 2020.

Aqua Tart

What?

I didn't think I said that unless my eyesight is poorer than I thought

Downgoat

22:50

Ok, I'm running for mod:

codegolf.stackexchange.com/election/1#post-75928

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

This election is pretty much going to be settling for the fourth mod. >_>

Downgoat

<_<

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

> In difficult situations, I prefer to smooth things out by calmly discussing both sides of an argument.

Why not all the time?

;)

Downgoat

true... fixing...

Dennis

Your nomination poster is sending mixed messages.

Downgoat

22:56

that one?

GamrCorps

yeah

Dennis

Dat -1.

Downgoat

> too long by 10 characters

ಠ╭╮ಠ

I have to golf my nomination apparently...

Aqua Tart

Had an interesting talk with some of The Whiteboard folks about PPCG's scope

Downgoat

@AquaTart The Whiteboard?

Aqua Tart

23:02

Programmers SE chat.

Downgoat

oh

Aqua Tart

I feel like our relations with other SE sites are a little poor because of our unusual scope and various incidents (StackEgg for instance)

Downgoat

that is true, but StackEgg was a while back and we've changed for the better, since

Aqua Tart

Sure, but not everyone stalks our meta. A lot of those better changes have happened recently

It seems like our most popular questions are underhanded popcons and such, which I dislike. They really aren't our finest moments :P

And the biggest problem people have with us seem to be golfing languages.

Zach Gates

@Downgoat Same haha. too long by 3 chars

Downgoat

23:05

I used a link shortener, that helped...

Zach Gates

Thoughts on the new iPhone SE? Clearly named after StackExchange

Rainbolt

@AquaTart My response to those people would be "If you ban golfing languages, suddenly there's a new class of languages that will be the shortest. Then you ban the next shortest languages, and the next, and the next, until all you have left is Java and C#. "

GamrCorps

Do you guys think it would be a good idea for us to make a Greatest Achievements of PPCG meta post (or at least list), not for anything special or something, but just to see opinions.

Aqua Tart

I think CR has something similar to that.

El'endia Starman

@Rainbolt Ban the golfing languages and Minkolang shall reign supreme! MUAHAHA!!!

Aqua Tart

23:08

Sounds OK.

Doorknob

23:18

@mbomb007 you might have to wait until tomorrow for my nomination :P Got a lot of other stuff to do today

Quill

@AquaTart not really

we have "best posts of the year"

but you guys have that too

I take the PPCG election more seriously than Australia's and the US' election

6

codegolf.stackexchange.com/election/…

copy paste failure. nice

Alex A.

@Quill Loki is a fellow Seattleite!

mınxomaτ

@Dennis Solved all my issues and updated the Mono documentation. Time to uninstall SUSE and never use it again :P

Quill

@AlexA. yeah. I had something copied from last night, and failed the paste

Alex A.

@mınxomaτ One time I trashed an openSUSE VM because it was installing updates and it didn't tell me that it wasn't done (there was no indication that anything was happening) so I shut down the VM. It never turned back on.

mınxomaτ

23:28

@Quill Wait until someone wants to build a wall between us and CR ಠ⌣ಠ

GamrCorps

Alright guys, I made a google form to see what the community views are our greatest accomplishments. Here it is:

goo.gl/forms/t9AetjHNcx

Quill

haha. are you running @mınxomaτ

mınxomaτ

lolno

I'd probably have -1 from 40 of these mod point thingamajigs.

Alex A.

@GamrCorps A game-changing event in our history: Graduating. :P

GamrCorps

@AlexA. Well, yes, that definitely counts. :P

Downgoat

23:43

@ZachGates that's exactly what I thought too :P

Alex A.

What's next, the iPhone 6 SO? Then 6 CR? Then 6 PPCG? This is an outrage!

Digital Trauma

^

Downgoat

@AlexA. I do not see what's wrong with an iPhone PPCG

Don Muesli

Two messages with avatars "green +1" and "red -1" together. Will they cancel out?

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