**** This file had errors that were repaired or ignored.
   **** The file was produced by:
   **** >>>> Mac OS X 10.11.3 Quartz PDFContext <<<<
   **** Please notify the author of the software that produced this
   **** file that it does not conform to Adobe's published PDF
   **** specification.

For some reason I doubt "the author of the software" will care...

@Doorknob who is the author of the software?

uh, Apple?

I sent a bug with Safari and I got a response so they will probably care

Did you send the issue to WebKit or Safari?

Safari

Ooh, look what just showed up in my inbox

@ETHproductions

:O

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ what happened to joining the PPCG server??.....

@EasterlyIrk I am sick again.

You are already on the computer.

I just got on.

@AquaTart nice

#NoExcuse

And I have to take a test on Julius Caesar on the ides of March.

:D

Flunk it.

And play minecraft.

But I must beware the ides of march

groans

I had a TM that was also six bytes, including a no-op, so only five instructions

@Maltysen o_O

@ETHproductions Post it

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ it was the first hit for "get well soon gifs" on images

@Maltysen I'm not sure if that's hilarious or disturbing

Wow, Cubix's Hello, World! already has 8 upvotes

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ V

Now go play minecraft.

o_o

＼＼\\٩(๑`^´๑)۶//／／

@ETHproductions

I also found a oddly disturbing star trek one.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Will check on that

> Riker.gif

Not my fault.

That's you in 20/40 years

ಠ_ಠ

I don't look anything like that. That isn't quite what I look like.

> I don't look anything like that. That isn't quite what I look like. I lied, that's my dad.

ಠ_ಠ

Go play minecraft.

ಠ_ಠ

Go play nethack.

ಠ_ಠ

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Am doing so.

And this and minecraft.

ಠ_ಠ

It's how I relax.

Go singletask

ಠ______________________ಠ

ugh, still not used to typing JavaScript ()

wow there's a lot of disapproval flying around

BY THE WAY... if you ever followed Simplex and wish to re-follow it, I have made a new repository here!

cool

@Neil as opposed to wat?

@Maltysen ಠ_ಠ for not joining in.

@Maltysen ಠ╭╮ಠ

@Neil are you used to significant whitespace like python? if so, take a look at coffeescript.com

@Maltysen ಠ╭╮ಠ

@EasterlyIrk :D you used that one

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ as opposed to just ES6, ## bytes

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ yah

o-)

@Neil Oh. I thought you meant a different lang XD

@EasterlyIrk ಠ╭╮ಠ

Happy man in a boat.

ಠ╰╯ಠ

uh, no.

That looks disturbing.

@Neil you should setup a text replacement. I have &javascript; which expands to # JavaScript (ES6),

ಠ ∪ ಠ

ooo better

ಠ﹀ಠ

uh no

yeah no

@Vihan isn't that almost exactly the same amount of typing?

you should make it \js or something

@Doorknob no

actually almost...

^ and ^^^^

Maybe &js; would be better

@LegionMammal978 that's what I did

Or &es6;

I think IE's the one who introduced MutationEvents O_o

IE actually did something useful

@LegionMammal978 why ampersand and semicolon...? Requires use of the shift key and a useless char at the end

@Vihan wait wat

^

<insert barfy wat gif>

@Doorknob IDK, apparently he likes HTML entities

HTML entities are the best

:D

How do you dat

System Preferences > Keyboard > Text

coool

llama@llama:~$ cat .XCompose
[...]
<Multi_key> <Multi_key> <d> : "ಠ_ಠ" # disapproval
<Multi_key> <Multi_key> <l> : "( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)" # lenny
<Multi_key> <Multi_key> <r> : "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ" # rickroll
<Multi_key> <Multi_key> <s> : "¯\\_(ツ)_/¯" # shrug
<Multi_key> <Multi_key> <t> : "(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻" # tableflip
<Multi_key> <Multi_key> <z> : "​" # zwsp

I use custom compose key sequences. So compose+compose+d is ಠ_ಠ, etc.

(and don't ask why rickroll is in there)

what is compose?

a key that makes entering Unicode characters a million times easier

compose ' e = é

compose # q = ♩

so like alt on a mac?

compose - - - = —

compose P P = ¶

@Vihan wait... alt key on a mac does something other than "alt"?

@Doorknob yes...

alt + 1 = ¡

alt + 2 = ™

why?! O_o

alt + 3 = £

shift + alt + 1 = ⁄

the compose key is actually sane though

shift + alt + 2 = €

etc.

like instead of memorizing "alt 2 = tm" you just do "compose t m"

@Doorknob you can just open up the keyboard viewer from the top and it becomes a lot easier

so wait... how do you type a literal alt+f (for example) on a mac then?

@Vihan the what?

this thing

ewwww

in what universe is © produced with g instead of "compose o c"?

and why would I want to do this when I can just have sane combinations like "compose ! !" -> "¡"?

@Doorknob if you squint the © symbol can be viewed as (g

uhhh... I'm not seeing it

:/

so how do you actually enter alt+f instead of entering some randomly chosen Unicode character?

I want to +1 this data sheet for saying "Don't Care"

@Doorknob if an application has set something for alt+f it'll do that rather than inserting the unicode character

so then how do you enter... whatever random character is under there in that application?

@Doorknob use the keyboard viewer

yuck

that's almost as bad as Google searching the character and copy/pasting it from there...

ಠ_ಠ

the keyboard viewer is very easy to open though

anything that requires the use of the mouse is not "easy"

Why do you dislike mice so much?

@Doorknob cookie clicker?

@Dennis they always eat all my cheese

ಠ_ಠ

¯\_( ͡ಠ ͜ʖ ͡ಠ) _/¯

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━‌​━━━┻

┻━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━‌​━━━┻ ︵ ╯(°□° ╯)

...

trial and error :P

what is the difference between include and import in c?

uhhh... there's no such thing as "import" in C

._.

really?

hahaha

s/reading dogcs/googling it/

it's arguably faster to hit the suspend button than to continue answering the deluge of questions :P

also, I don't know about you, but I've never written anything on my Cing eye dog

does C have like a println so I don't have to do \n at the end of every printf?

no

oh no, it's too late to edit :(

no

ಠ╭╮ಠ

ninja'd

ಠ╭───╮ಠ

@Vihan well actually, there is puts

but don't do that

why

how do I do like import otherfile.c in c?

I promise I tried to google it but nothing came up

you don't

then what do I do?

u make a header file and include that

how do I make a header file?

when you compile the stuff just include all the files

uhh

how?

oh sorry that wasn't a response to how to make a header file

a header is like a list of function and variable signatures

It's okay, I googled it and found a helpful answer:

are you just trying to hack your way through c?

cuz that's in like chapter 3 of any c book / intro tutorial

yes

and no

@Maltysen I do not like docs/books

so do I need to like make a makefile to do this?

uck, makefiles seem to need tabs D:

or yes, use a makefile

It's hard to have friends here if you don't know what their whitespace preference is. It's like being stabbed in the back.

;)

Tabs are the way to go

^

Starred for great truth.

I blame Geobits for this spread of lies and blasphemy. :P

ಠ___________________________________________________________________________________ಠ

wow that's a lot more people who liked tabs than I thought

does anyone know what "CFLAGS" is?

don't use makefile

then what do I use ._.

gcc

@Vihan really. Because Googling "makefile cflags" resulted in about a million helpful results for me.

Calvin r u here

but I don't want to be running a very long compile command every time

or whatever ur name is now...

@AshwinGupta it's HelkaHomba

Did u reset the map on PPCG? Can't find my house where it should be..

Thanks Vihan. R u downgot?

yeah

fine then use makefiles if you want, but its overkill for you IMO

sup.

@HelkaHomba u here?

@AshwinGupta He should be UpsideDownGoat ಠ_ಠ

When I was sshing into my Raspberry Pi, for a while I hadn't pulled my vimrc, so I was using vanilla vim. Which means that at times, some files had mixtures of spaces and tabs... it was horrifying.

@Maltysen it doesn't matter. I have no idea what I'm doin anyway

cs.colby.edu/maxwell/courses/tutorials/maketutor

read that and you'll kinda have an idea what you're doing

@Doorknob you think its worth getting a raspberry pi? I may be able to get something when I graduate from middle school and I was thinking I could get one since its pretty cheap (like 25-30 bucks or whatever) and I could learn some more programming. Could I learn anything from it at my level (not really begginer, but advanced-begginer)?

@Vihan Me when programming in J

@Maltysen usually for things like these I just do an alias c='gcc ...' (c for compile). Same with Rust, to cut down on typing: alias c='cargo run'

@AshwinGupta what are you thinking of using it for?

IDK really, just for playing around.

@Dennis (╯ಠ ͜ʖಠ）╯︵ ┻━┻

@AshwinGupta If you want to learn more programming. don't use C. it's very confusing

i'm thinking of getting one for the free mathematica

@AlexA. oh my god, what is that

@Vihan C is good D:

I honestly don't know what you do on them. I just hear they teach you programming.

@AshwinGupta Middle school :o? But IMO a RPi is worth it

@Vihan this is... misleading advice at best

@Maltysen but confusing

like they are very few builtins

if not any

just do a lot of including

@Vihan ...

@ZachGates okay thanks I'll consider that. Also why is middle school funny to you?

8th grade if that helps =/?

I have approximate knowledge of many things

@AshwinGupta They don't teach anything; they're a tool to help you learn. It comes with several pre-installed langs

namely mathematica ^.^

@Vihan C language is best language. Everything else is stamp collecting.

@AshwinGupta a Raspberry Pi is basically a tiny, really cheap computer

@AshwinGupta No, I just thought it was interesting. I don't see many people younger than 15/16 in here

Right, but cant you conncet like cool external stuff like lights or whatever.

I've also heard of adurino which is like that.

raspberry pi zero is only like $5

@ZachGates im 14, almost 15 (september)

@Maltysen s/Mathemetica/Python

Oh shoot gtg I will be back in like 20-30

@AshwinGupta get a USB cable ;P

@AshwinGupta yeah, if you're more curious about the hardware side of things, Arduino is probably better for you

@ZachGates but python doesn't cost like 17K

@Maltysen Hehe, depends on how much time you spend using it. Time is money, after all.

@AshwinGupta for that all you really need is a breadboard and a battery

If time is money, C is filthy rich

honestly, java is way worse for productivity than C

@Dennis s/C/Julia/g

@Vihan Usually more than a breadboard and a battery

@AlexA. s/Julia/Rust/g

what's the difference between main: in a makefile and like myrandomrule:

@ZachGates ok fine, jumper wires, and a transformer

@Doorknob This evaluates to false

IncorrectError: doorknob-is-wrong

@AlexA. last time I checked, regexes... regices... regexen... regex's... whatever... can't evaluate to a boolean without a string to match against :P

@Vihan If you're planning on controlling a power grid lol

@Doorknob Better Czech again, broskinski

(][[[]](}])]]]]){](]]][}](]]}]{]]]}](]}]{]}]]]{{}]]]{](][](}]{]}]{(]]]}](]][{](]‌​[]}](]}]{]){](]](}]{]}]{{}]

:D

only 107 bytes!

> Once you have a precise problem you can report it in one of two ways. Either send electronic mail

"electronic mail", damn this manual is old....

I still see "electronic mail" used today sometimes

really? o_O

^

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Huh

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ wat

I golfed it

Golfed what

^

Uh

I forgot you forgot

oh yeah

Wot

but what does it do?

(][[[]]( ; 72
}}}      ; out H
)]]]])   ; 32
{{{      ; 72 -> reg
(]]][    ; r += 29
}}}      ; out e
(]]      ; r += 7
}}}      ; out l
{]]]     ; nop
}}}      ; out l
(]       ; r += 3
}}}      ; out o
{{{      ; set r to 72
}]]]     ; nop
{{       ; change focus
}]]]     ; nop
{{{      ; 32 -> reg
(][](    ; r += 12
}}}      ; out ,
{{{      ; set r to 32
}}}      ; out " "
{        ; change focus
(]]]     ; r += 15
}}}      ; out W
(]][     ; r += 13
{{{      ; 100 -> reg
(][]     ; r += 11

uh

oh, it's a Hello World!

Yeah!

wait I forgot to say that!?

damn

@Doorknob ...where? I see e-mail occasionally, which really rustles my Jimmies.

@AlexA. which really whaaa?

google.com/search?q=define+jimmies

^ idk?

> tiny multicolored sugar shapes, typically rods and balls, used for decorating cakes, ice cream, and other desserts; sprinkles.

> tiny multicolored sugar shapes, typically rods and balls, used for decorating cakes, ice cream, and other desserts; sprinkles.

aw, ninja'd

@Maltysen Urban Dictionary is, for the first time in the history of its creation, actually helpful here

@AlexA. I... what

@Doorknob look at definition #2

o_O

@Doorknob Shhhh, let it hold you... let it take you

@CoolestVeto Welcome to Programming Puzzles & Code Golf!

hahaha

@CoolestVeto Welcome! PPCG is a Stack Exchange site with the purpose of creating and solving programming challenges or contests. I see you've found our chat room!

That was very satisfying

Did you fall asleep on your keyboard? o_O

No joke, I actually did. I used that in the code.

> "What is this terror!"

What should Gogh's behavior be for integer + codeblock? or string+, float+, array+

I was thinking of just prepending the element to the block

What does a codeblock do?

It's basically a subprogram that can be mapped to any element

Runs in a new stack (with the previous TOS already on the new stack)

string + codeblock should create a new codeblock with code of string and previous codeblock concatenated

So if the codeblock is {1.2+} (add 1.2 to the TOS), and I add that to the string "123", what should the result be?

1231.2?

Depends on your operator overloads

@MarsUltor No, I'm not actually executing the block

I was thinking {"123"1.2+}

yeah makes sense

@ZachGates "123" + {1.2+}() (i.e. add "123" to result)?

@MarsUltor What

@ZachGates Then what is {"123"}{1.2+}+?

{"123"1.2+}

right?

^

Or maybe {{"123"}1.2+}

@ZachGates Wait, what does {"123"} do?

Maps the string to the TOS

I would make {"123"}{1.2+}+ => {"123"1.2+} and "123"{1.2+}+ => {1231.2+}.

@MarsUltor If the TOS was an array, every element becomes the string "123"

@ZachGates Because that would be {{"123"}}{1.2+}

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Yeah, you're right

how many distinct graphs are there with N labelled nodes and K paths?

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ What about the reverse? {1.2+}"123"+

@ZachGates Hm... Lazy me says {1.2+123}, but useful me says to look at the codeblock and see if you can insert 123 anywhere useful, such as {1.2 123+}

Hm, I'll think about it

Whatever you do, do not rush it. I've made that mistake a few times and have always regretted it.

For example, using the space as a functional character.

Yeah, space is the no-op for me :P

That's good :D

In response to this

People are idiots >_>

LOL

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I've just got here so when you say "mistake", what do you mean? The rushing? And rushing what?

@Sherlock9 Rushing through the creation of a programming/golfing language is a terrible idea and mistake.

Ah, I should have guessed. Thanks o7

no prob ^_^

Whitespace program is gone >_>

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ: Well, you know, now I'm thinking that "123"{1.2+}+ should eval to "1231.2+" because the element I'm adding to is a string

@ZachGates That also makes sense. I just can't see how it would be particularly useful.

I could dump the string to a codeblock => {1231.2+} (Add 1231.2)

Oh! I didn't realize there was such a command.

Yeah, dumping an array pushes all its elements to the stack & dumping a string creates a code block

cool!

I'm going to need a new wiki page just to cover logic between different types lol

Could you link me? :D

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ github.com/zachgates7/Gogh

Wiki has all the info I've written down so far

Cool!

I'm about to push the implementation of code blocks. After I finish it's logic between different types

@ZachGates starred for using spaces

Someone should write a github userscript that lets you put in your indentation preference and if you go to a repo that uses the other one it displays a big warning

^

^

v

No

I am not here

Looks like I have a job

I gotta go now >_>