The Nineteenth Byte

Mama Fun Roll

00:01

@Vihan Sorta.

Quill

Monring

Vihan

> Monring

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

He does that.

A Nerd - I

@Quill Good aftenroon

Vihan

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ why

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:04

It's like monking

Doorknob

chat.stackexchange.com/search?q=monring&room=240

Vihan

monking?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

It's a CR thing

A Nerd - I

Ugh, those CR people and their memes

Vihan

^

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:06

We have memes too >_>

Vihan

~~but ours make sense~~ nevermind

A Nerd - I

We don't have memes; we have memetic traditions

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Feb 11 at 2:24, by Calvin's Hobbies

1 hour ago, by Calvin's Hobbies

Let's be friends with Code Review.

Vihan

:/

friends =\= accepting memetic traditions

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

> Ugh, those CR people [...]

Vihan

00:11

Finally finished the Cubix 3D IDE

@ETHproductions ^

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

textarea resize...?

Vihan

oh

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Also set spellcheck to false

and center the text

Vihan

jsfiddle.net/w5p8p2ms/15

does that work?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

and perhaps add a reverse text function that transforms the compact code into the cube

Perfect!

Vihan

00:15

:/ I can't seem to vertically center the text in the textarea

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Oh, that's impossible without using a table wrapper

Vihan

ಠ_ಠ

El'endia Starman

It's ridiculous how that's like the #1 difficulty with HTML+CSS: vertical centering.

Vihan

in 2016 it is impossible to vertically center text in a textbox without any hacks

this is bullshit

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@El'endiaStarman I know! D:

We should totally make our own

Fortunately, the charging one has been solved now that we've all standardized on mini-USB. Or is it micro-USB? Shit.

El'endia Starman

00:17

We don't need a standard. We need a solution.

Vihan

^

El'endia Starman

Incidentally, what about flex-box? IIRC, that provides vertical centering in some contexts.

Vihan

@El'endiaStarman flex-box is cool but it's support is iffy and I don't think it works on textareas

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Surely SCSS has a solution?

Vihan

SCSS is just CSS with better syntax... you have to use JS to center text in a textbox apparently...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:19

ಠ_ಠ

Vihan

whoever made HTML/CSS needs to be whacked with a whale...

3

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

BTW, add document.getElementById("t-1").click();

This'll center the box initially.

Vihan

I can do that without that

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

It's throwing my groove >_>

Vihan

jsfiddle.net/w5p8p2ms/17

that should do it

I am using SCSS

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:22

There's a glitch with all boxes empty

Vihan

really?

works fine for me

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Vihan

ugh

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Also, it would be cool to be able to navigate to a side of the cube by clicking on a side of the cube navigation

Vihan

I should try to implement syntax highlighting

@ETHproductions Here's my final version: jsfiddle.net/vihanb/w5p8p2ms/18

I'll add the clicking navigation later

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:29

I can do that.

I'm already 50% through >_>

El'endia Starman

> This would be a distance of 400 kilometers (250 miles), taking just 25 minutes compared to a typical 4.5-hour car ride.

I already knew about Hyperloop, but this just messes with my head.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Array.from(document.querySelectorAll("[id^=\"H\"]")).forEach(function(e){
	e.onclick = function(){
    document.getElementById("t-"+e.id[e.id.length-1]).click()
  }
});

@Vihan

Vihan

what does that do?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Click navigation

Vihan

oh, I see, that's cool

Now that I think of it, the preview code could be on the navigation

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:36

?

oh

trichoplax

@El'endiaStarman If I haven't mixed up my numbers, with uniform acceleration and deceleration, that only requires less than 0.1g. Should be pretty comfortable :)

El'endia Starman

Looks like the average car can accelerate at ~0.3g.

ETHproductions

@Vihan ...whoa

trichoplax

If there's no top speed, just needing to keep acceleration reasonable, I guess the craziest sounding times will be for the longest journeys.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Motion Sickness...

El'endia Starman

00:47

I look forward to hearing about a 9-hour journey from New York to Los Angeles. :P

Vihan

@ETHproductions this is the latest version: jsfiddle.net/vihanb/w5p8p2ms/24/embedded/result

trichoplax

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ No corners...

ETHproductions

@Vihan 1, because the interpreter complains if you feed it an empty program

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@trichoplax Acceleration sickness?

ETHproductions

@Vihan Yes, that's lovely :)

trichoplax

00:48

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Do you get that from Earth's gravity? :P

Vihan

@ETHproductions ok, I've just made the sides <textarea> so it's doesn't matter

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@trichoplax ... influenza.

ETHproductions

Only one problem... the net should be

trichoplax

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I'm lost now. I need sleep...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@trichoplax I need sleep >_>

Vihan

00:50

@ETHproductions oh :/

I'll try to fix that

trichoplax

Good night all

ETHproductions

@Vihan Thanks :)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@trichoplax night

Easterly Irk

night

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

heyyyy @eas

Didn't notice 'ya

Easterly Irk

00:51

wasn't really here

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

oh.

Well, neither am I. Gotta go eat dinner >_>

Easterly Irk

playing minecraft, nethack, dnethack, and watching chat at the same time

Vihan

@ETHproductions jsfiddle.net/vihanb/w5p8p2ms/25 that should fix it

Easterly Irk

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ lol

probably need to also. I am home all, all, alone.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Vihan Look for a square monospace font please

@EasterlyIrk Party

Vihan

00:51

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ It's 6:00 for me and I still need to eat lunch O.o

Easterly Irk

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ this is my idea of a party, I have no life.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Vihan Blame east coast

@EasterlyIrk \o/ same here

Easterly Irk

Haven't eaten anything all day. ::

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

D:

EAT SOMETHING YOU STUPID CAT

ETHproductions

@Vihan Thank you very much :D

Vihan

00:53

@ETHproductions it was a fun challenge to work on...

ETHproductions

Although there's a weird 270 degree rotation between 3 and 4 now, but that doesn't matter much

Easterly Irk

My cat ate a bird today, and 2 lizards.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@EasterlyIrk o_o methinks your cat is eating healthier than you

Easterly Irk

I hate food.

Vihan

@ETHproductions I couldn't figure out how to fix that, blame-css

Easterly Irk

00:53

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ you should use the PPCG minecraft server.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@EasterlyIrk I probably should.

Maybe tomorrow

Easterly Irk

'Tis funess hosted in a cloud.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ D:

TONIGHT

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@EasterlyIrk I gotta study and do a bunch of crud bc of the end of the quarter

It's 2054 here >_>

Easterly Irk

Same, but do you see that stopping me?

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ >_>

17:54 here.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

FRUITS

Easterly Irk

00:55

fixed

A Nerd - I

17 hundred 54 hours

ETHproductions

@Vihan One more thing... Do you think you could make each side automatically wrap based on how large the edge length is? e.g. abcd wraps to ab\ncd for side length 2, abc\nd for side length three

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Easterly Irk

AI THE WINDOWS MY EYES

Vihan

@ETHproductions right now, it just finds the smallest square size that the code fits in though if there is a newline in any box I could have it then do that

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:57

@EasterlyIrk Windows are necessary to see by.

Easterly Irk

NO

ETHproductions

@Vihan I mean, like it sets a max-width property of 2 chars for the textarea on each side if the side length is 2

Easterly Irk

USE A APPLE FLASHLIGHT INSTEAD

Vihan

@ETHproductions oh, so should the side-length be manually specified?

ETHproductions

You're already finding the side-length automatically, aren't you?

Couldn't you just use that to calculate it?

Vihan

00:59

yeah, but the way that works is: ceil(sqrt(max_chars))

oh, in the textarea

got it

ETHproductions

Yup

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@EasterlyIrk Good luck driving.

Vihan

@ETHproductions should I have it also implicitly insert "."s?

ETHproductions

@Vihan You mean in the textareas?

Vihan

yeah

though I guess that's not necessary

ETHproductions

01:02

Yeah, that might just make it harder to modify them

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^

Dynamic widths of cube, maybe?

Vihan

I could make it so when you type, it'll overwrite the "."

ETHproductions

You could try that, if you'd like

Vihan

jsfiddle.net/vihanb/w5p8p2ms/26

I hope that's what you meant

ETHproductions

Perfect :)

but it seems to reset my cursor if I modify something in the middle. Can you do anything to fix that?

Vihan

01:09

I'll try

@ETHproductions that would require doing a diff across the entire code, so I'll leave that for later when I get more time

ETHproductions

Oh, OK

A Nerd - I

Is there a guide for writing golfing langs anywhere, perchance?

ETHproductions

It's good enough for now

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@ANerd-I I planned on writing one, and I may have a draft, one sec

A Nerd - I

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Thanks, because I don't know if the above list of types I have to care about is complete or not

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

01:17

@ANerd-I My draft died with my old CPU, sorry. But yeah, that should be a sufficient list.

Vihan

@ANerd-I you should probably have a dictionary type, and maybe regexes

Easterly Irk

@ANerd-I Arcturus was the name of the planet the dude with the freaky head in MIB 3 was from.

^^

Vihan

Also, char literals

A Nerd - I

@Vihan I've always been scared to ask... What's a regex? (ducks and covers because stupid question)

Easterly Irk

A special pattern.

El'endia Starman

01:19

Pattern-matching on strings, basically.

Vihan

@ANerd-I regular-expressions.info

2

Easterly Irk

You compare if it makes a string or not.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^^^ usually

Vihan

they're things that match text

Easterly Irk

@Vihan wtf woah

@MartinBüttner the Regex master, enlighten @ANerd-I.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

01:19

We're nice people, see? :P

Easterly Irk

^

Vihan

^

A Nerd - I

And a dictionary type is...?

Easterly Irk

With the exception of certain avian trolls.

Vihan

@ANerd-I like a map

A Nerd - I

01:20

@EasterlyIrk Ok but you can't pay attention to him, as he is wrong

Easterly Irk

@ANerd-I A list, but you can define other things as indexes.

Vihan

Like: { a: 1, b:2 }

Easterly Irk

@ANerd-I Aaaand the one who hopes to fly.

A Nerd - I

Oh... I've never seen the dictionary type before, but ok.

Easterly Irk

{'Alex':'is wrong','Mego':'is troll'}

@ANerd-I check out python's one.

A Nerd - I

01:21

I need Java's one :P

Easterly Irk

docs.python.org/2/tutorial/datastructures.html#dictionaries

Just as an example.

Vihan

@ANerd-I I think Java's is a Map/HashMap

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@EasterlyIrk ... {'???':'changes their name too much'}

Aqua Tart

@ANerd-I HashMap

Easterly Irk

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Hey, not me...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

01:24

@EasterlyIrk >_>

A Nerd - I

Is it a bad thing if I just use the possible input types as String, int, double, and array; have a conversion to chars as a command, and not implement regexes and dictionaries for now?

Easterly Irk

no.

ETHproductions

Are @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ and I the only ones in here who don't have an anagram username or recently had one?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@ANerd-I That's fine. Jolf really only has strings, arrays, and numbers.

@ETHproductions @Vihan

Easterly Irk

@ETHproductions Vihan.

ETHproductions

01:24

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Same with Japt

Easterly Irk

ninja'ed

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

See, it's perfectly fine @Ane

ETHproductions

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ But he did change it briefly.

Easterly Irk

@ANerd-I make an int a double, combine them.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@ETHproductions True. Doorknob?

Aqua Tart

01:25

Just make arrays associative by default.

Easterly Irk

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ There is such a thing called tab-autocomplete.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@EasterlyIrk oh well.

ETHproductions

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ He isn't chatting right now

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Oh, alex

Easterly Irk

@ETHproductions not an anagram.

A Nerd - I

01:25

But a double-d int has a .0 in it, which is different.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@ETHproductions Oops.

ETHproductions

@EasterlyIrk "A Dong Wot" wasn't it?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

El'endia.

Easterly Irk

@ANerd-I I know.

Doorknob

@ETHproductions yes I am

Easterly Irk

01:25

@ETHproductions oh yeah

@ETHproductions dam son, you just got rekt

A Nerd - I

Shouldn't the printed number be an int and not a double?

Easterly Irk

Yes.

Unless it is a double.

Aqua Tart

You should only have two number types: real and complex

3

Easterly Irk

Like 1.0 -> 1, 2.5 -> 2.5

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^^

A Nerd - I

01:26

@AquaTart Real numbers are complex

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Or Hamiltonian

A Nerd - I

@EasterlyIrk That conversion would be done at the end of the program I assume?

ETHproductions

@Doorknob :P ~~How should I know you were in here?~~ ~~Well look who decided to show up.~~ Never mind. I'll just take this one.

Easterly Irk

@ANerd-I Anytime you print something.

Aqua Tart

@ANerd-I never said they were mutually exclusive.

A Nerd - I

01:27

What if I wanted to print a double ending in .0?

Easterly Irk

oh hm

A Nerd - I

@AquaTart East is implying it

ETHproductions

@ANerd-I print(mydouble + ".0")

Easterly Irk

just make a 1 byte print-as-int function.

A Nerd - I

@EasterlyIrk I'd rather have a print-as-double function, but that makes sense. Thanks!

Easterly Irk

01:29

Welcome.

A Nerd - I

Whoops, thought I had the face

Easterly Irk

nono link

pls

Aqua Tart

You're over complicating it. Just keep everything as a double and cast to long as needed.

Sp3000

^^

A Nerd - I

It's a chatroom with 3 messages in it, all of which are dumb

Easterly Irk

01:30

anyways pls

ETHproductions

@Vihan @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Basic spec added: github.com/ETHproductions/cubix

A Nerd - I

@AquaTart Because reasons, I can't use longs; the max I can do is ints

Aqua Tart

Ideally the only scalar type should be strings honestly. Coerce to number as needed

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@ETHproductions \o/

ETHproductions

Now I'm off to bed. G'night!

Easterly Irk

01:30

night

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Night!

A Nerd - I

@EasterlyIrk chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/36932/arcturus

Easterly Irk

@ETHproductions what time zone?

El'endia Starman

@ETHproductions Hmmm, perhaps. ;)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

\o/

we three have never changed recently

Yet another abomination I have created: >>>>;;<<<<>>>>;;;;;;;;<<><<;;>>>><<<>>;.;;;<<<<>>>>;;;<<>;;<<;;>>>><<<.

This outputs Hi

Easterly Irk

01:42

In what?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

My new language, Flummery.

Easterly Irk

l

i

n

k

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

jsfiddle.net/Conor_OBrien/6e7pahhe/2

Easterly Irk

p

l

s

thanks

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

np

Easterly Irk

01:44

Correction: It outputs brainfuck for HiW

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

really? :/

Easterly Irk

uh-huh.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

It's two different programs

Newline-separated.

Easterly Irk

um

what?

And after flumming the output like 4 times, it falls into a pattern.

flumming = pasting into that interpreter.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Copy+paste the result here

(From the initial transpiling)

Easterly Irk

01:48

[[[[[[<[[[[[[[[[[[[[[<<><[[[[[[[<<<<.<<<<><<[<<<<<<<>>>>+><[<<<<<<>.
[[[[[[<[[[[[[[[[[[[[[<<[[[[[[[<<<<.<<<<<[<<<+[<<<<<.

A Nerd - I

Writing a golfing language in Java to learn Java will turn out to be the masochistic approach to learning Java, I predict.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@ANerd-I It is.

A Nerd - I

Although writing and learning Java is pretty masochistic to begin with.

3

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^ that too

Easterly Irk

^

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

01:49

@EasterlyIrk wat

Easterly Irk

um what

oh wait

<>+---+><[<>+---------+>+><<<>+-]-+>+--.---+><[<>+----+>+++><<<>+-]-+>.
-[------->+<]>-.--[-->+++<]>.

sorry

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

There's two lines.

They are the same program.

Easterly Irk

what

confusion alert

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

<>+---+><[<>+---------+>+><<<>+-]-+>+--.---+><[<>+----+>+++><<<>+-]-+>.

is the same as

-[------->+<]>-.--[-->+++<]>.

Easterly Irk

oh

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

01:50

They both should work

Easterly Irk

yah

they do

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

\o/

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