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s/small caps/little rectangles/
@Dennis ?
oh
actually it doesn't because it uses CSS rather than unicode
@Vihan That's worse than varying horrible fonts :P
@Geobits this looks beautiful
@Geobits Is your mom... one of them?
03:04
@Vihan Actually, it really doesn't look bad at all when it's the whole page. I'll reserve my smallcap hatred for times when it's used among regular text.
@AlexA. You have no idea. She's going to the convention as a delegate.
@Geobits :(
Conor's name is really messed up though with the double-small-caps
Well that's Conor's fault for being different or something.
I wonder how long it'll be till this drives me crazy...
How dare he!
03:07
Michigan is getting pretty close now that Detroit is starting to report...
@Vihan It probably won't. I write in smallcaps a lot of the time.
@Geobits really? It still hurts my eyes
It got to be a habit in the military. Forms everywhere.
I should probably get back to work...
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Q: Is it acceptable to take input in two different formats?

My Ham DJThis isn't an issue yet, but I could see it become one sometime soon. Can I take input in two, or even more, separate formats, provided they're both reasonable formats? For example, let's say one input was from the user over STDIN and another was a command line argument. If I made that clear in m...

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@Vihan You're already crazy for using smallcaps
03:14
so um
@Mego what's wrong with small caps besides them hurting your eyes?
So um, the new sushi place is town is great.
i made a GUI wrapper (or whatever the heck you call it) for CJam. its basically like the site except for a few small things
would anyone want to help me test it.........
@Vihan They take longer to read if used a lot, by preventing your eyes from seeing the word shapes as well.
@Vihan what's wrong with making every word a different font and every letter a different color?
03:15
12 mins ago, by Vihan
actually it doesn't because it uses CSS rather than unicode
uh, that... is unrelated
Anonymous
@Vihan It hurts the eyes, it hurts the sanity, it enrages the elder gods
@Mego Now that I've made everything small caps, everything looks weird without it, so I'll be keeping it this way
Anonymous
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03:19
ಠ_ಠ
Do mean Stockholm, Sweden ?
no no is not what mean
> Stockholm syndrome can be seen as a form of traumatic bonding
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That GIF makes me so barfy
03:22
thank you Alex
@Dennis How exactly do you handle CP437 on TIO? just curious
why was that deleted?
no idea
It's obnoxious
03:23
what's going on
is this one better?
It didn't even load for me before it was deleted
@AquaTart I convert it to UTF-8.
my browser told me somebody pinged me
@AquaTart link but I won't onebox it: i.imgur.com/uYbRtKT.gif
03:24
so i tabbed over and nothing was there
Anonymous
@AquaTart The input is in UTF-8. He uses iconv to convert it to CP437 before passing it in
Oh, iconv? k
Anonymous
@Dennis That reminds me, I've been meaning to bug you about an issue. Seriously output is also in CP437, so the high characters aren't displaying right in the output field.
welp ill be back on tomorrow
night m8s
03:25
Is there a list of supported encodings for iconv?
@Mego Ah, OK. I'll have to account for that in the wrapper.
iconv -l
llama@llama:~$ iconv -l
The following list contains all the coded character sets known.  This does
not necessarily mean that all combinations of these names can be used for
the FROM and TO command line parameters.  One coded character set can be
listed with several different names (aliases).

  437, 500, 500V1, 850, 851, 852, 855, 856, 857, 860, 861, 862, 863, 864, 865,
  866, 866NAV, 869, 874, 904, 1026, 1046, 1047, 8859_1, 8859_2, 8859_3, 8859_4,
  8859_5, 8859_6, 8859_7, 8859_8, 8859_9, 10646-1:1993, 10646-1:1993/UCS4,
ninja'd
RTFM(page) :P
@Dennis psh you didn't include the output
Anonymous
@Dennis Thanks!
03:26
@Doorknob read the frickin' man page?
Thanks :P
@Doorknob Ringo That Fingo, Mingo
Really Tiny Fricative Melon
(see: user Fricative Melon)
Rotated Thirty Floops Meft
I liked Randy the Fart Monster better
03:30
He liked you better too
quarteetletootles
Ugh. I leave for a few minutes and now it's too late to join in the acronym fun :(
It's never too late
It's all about timing, though. The moment has passed.
b=Bogey
(($2<2))&&echo Hole in one||tail -$[$2-$1+5]<<<"Haha you loser
Triple $b
Double $b
$b
Par
Birdie
Eagle
Albatross
Condor"|head -1
@Doorknob The comment cannot hold.
it is too late tony the pony he comes
(thanks)
03:37
@Mego Could you give me an example with funky output?
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@Dennis
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Note that in the to-be-named v2 of Seriously, that won't be an issue, because it'll do Unicode input and output
Anonymous
And also have an assembly language
03:40
@Mego |o|
@Mego Those are fixed. TIO supports dingbats instead of control characters in the first 32 bytes. Should I put those in the output as well?
These ones, to be precise.
␀☺☻♥♦♣♠•◘○◙♂♀♪♫☼►◄↕‼¶§▬↨↑↓→←∟↔▲▼⌂⍽
The last two are DEL and NBSP.
@Mego Seriously 2 won't be called Seriously?
2 Seriously
2
It'll be called No, Really.
v3 will be I'm Not Joking
03:44
It should be called ಠ_ಠ
4 goes full circle: Dammit, Why Won't Anyone Take Me Seriously
@Vihan That's already a thing.
@Dennis really? link?
03:48
Seriously should have a debugger called Oh really?
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Speaking of languages with weird names, any news wrt Jelly><>?
That's a terrible name. <-- probably not the news you were looking for.
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/ \
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llama@llama:~$ alias o='echo ya rly; >/dev/null echo'
llama@llama:~$ o rly???
ya rly
@Dennis Development has slowed to a crawl because of work.
03:50
@Doorknob Will this be another one of those things where you can only type potato?
we don't talk about that anymore
@Doorknob how do I make o stop outputting ya rly?
format/reinstall
@Geobits oh okay
Or unalias.
03:51
@Dennis I need to fork Jelly and add the second dimension into it! Into the nothing-suspecting wagon!
I think formatting the drive or reinstalling the OS is safer.
That reminds me of the time I found a thing that would make all the o in DOS spin like Sonic rings. It was fun for roughly seven minutes.
@AlexA. That's reserved for when your computer is infected with something serious. Like OS X.
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@Dennis ಠ_______________________________________________________________ಠ
@Dennis ಠ___ಠ
03:53
Starred for double-disapproval-face. GJ
I'm thinking of making another Chatgoat... should I keep it a goat or make it like something else?
though you can never have too many chatgoatse chatgoats
Anonymous
@Dennis Since internally Seriously uses ASCII for the lower 128 and CP437 for the upper 128, it's probably better that the control characters are kept
Anonymous
@AlexA. I have no clue. I want to give it a different name to distinguish it from Seriously, given that there is no backwards compatibility
@Vihan Make it a wild dog and get them to fight.
like a coyote?
03:56
Or a dingo.
Or a poodle
Or just a wild dog.
Chatdingo
Or a Vitsy.
What's a Vitsy?
Anonymous
03:56
Purse dog
ChatPurseDog
Chathuahua
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@Dennis that's a good name...
brb making leftgoat Chathuahua
Anonymous
I'm thinking about Actually for v2... I think it was phase that suggested that one
On the Other Hand
Anonymous
03:57
Actually, 12 bytes
Wait, Really?
Just name it Winner:
Winner, 12 bytes
Wait, Really? 12 bytes?
Anonymous
Accept this answer
v3 will be Obviously, and it will foil my evil plan for an esoteric language that's not short.
Anonymous
03:59
v3 will definitely be Finally, because I'm never going to get around to making it
Name it "less than"
Less than 12 bytes
Ooooh ^
Some people don't use the comma :P
how's that for it's avatar?
Horrifying
Anonymous
03:59
2spoopy4me

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