The Nineteenth Byte

Alex A.

22:02

Hey @Doorknob, say I have a NeoVim session that I've :split with one pane being a :term.

Now, how do I copy all the stuff in one pane and submit it in the terminal emulator?

Geobits

You should drop that and try jQuery.

Alex A.

I wonder if the j stands for joseph or something.

El'endia Starman

jQuery is really great and does all things. Right @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ? :P

Doorknob

@AlexA. ggyG <move to terminal> p?

Alex A.

Hm, probably josé. joséQuery is José Cuervo of JavaScript libraries.

@Doorknob What is gg? Is this not a case for visual mode?

Doorknob

22:04

... what?

Alex A.

What what

Geobits

in the...

Doorknob

@AlexA. um... why would you use visual mode? O_o

Alex A.

finding it so difficult not to complete the reference

@Doorknob I thought that's what you had to do to copy things.

Doorknob

/me hopes you are trolling

Alex A.

22:07

/me is not trolling, is just dumb

Doorknob

you really should, uh, learn vim -_-

Alex A.

>_>

That feeling when you accidentally put code that makes a GET request in an infinite loop and exhaust your API quota in about 4 seconds.

Geobits

Or, you know. Not learn vim.

El'endia Starman

@AlexA. [wince]

API quota for the day?

Alex A.

Yeah

Doorknob

22:11

UTC day rolls over in < 2 hours

Alex A.

Yes

That will be a glorious time indeed

El'endia Starman

A glorious time to exhaust your API quota in 4 seconds again. :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@El'endiaStarman ಠ_ಠ

Alex A.

I'll, uh, add a break in the loop somewhere... >_>

Geobits

Just one little GOTO, what's the harm?

Alex A.

22:13

GOTO is what killed the dinosaurs.

El'endia Starman

And GOTOs can summon velociraptors from the past.

Geobits

240 GOTO GIANTMETEOR

Alex A.

Can you have named gotos like that in Fortran?

Geobits

I dunno. I've never used Fortran.

Alex A.

I thought it was numeric labels only

Aw

Fortran is fun

El'endia Starman

22:15

Blitz 2D/3D has named gotos.

And gosubs.

Geobits

I've used BASIC, and it is only numeric, but that wouldn't have been as funny at all.

Alex A.

SAS has named gotos

Geobits

Later BASICs sometimes have named goto also.

Sometimes you have to sacrifice accuracy for humor.

Alex A.

s/Sometimes y/Y/

Doorknob

s/.* y/Y/

golfier :P

Geobits

22:20

Sometimes things are accurate and funny though, like alex-is-wrong.

Alex A.

22:32

Does Python 3's print() automatically insert a newline at the end?

El'endia Starman

yes

Alex A.

Okay great, thanks

Dennis

^^

El'endia Starman

print(<blah>, end='') will not.

Alex A.

Oh right, the end parameter

Reason #23452345 why Python 3 > 2

Dennis

22:33

Reason #1 being that 3 > 2?

Alex A.

Obviously

Dennis

El'endia Starman

There's also the sep parameter, which is ' ' by default and separates arguments given to print. Like, print("a","b", sep=" to ") will give a to b.

Alex A.

Ooh, that's nifty, didn't know about that one

Doorknob

print('ale', 'ro', sep='x is w', end='ng')

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Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

22:36

ew python

El'endia Starman

ew Conor

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Dennis

Keyword-Only Arguments are really great and do all things.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

that syntax is just wrong imo

Doorknob

what's wrong with that syntax?

it's literally the only way that makes sense

Alex A.

@Doorknob hrmf="ಠ";print(hrmf,hrmf,sep="_")

Doorknob

22:37

> hrmf

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@El'endiaStarman :(

El'endia Starman

My plan for Pytek at the moment is \func_name[named_args](args). So the above would be \print[sep='x os w',end='ng']('ale','ro').

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

So, it transpiles to python?

El'endia Starman

It won't.

Dennis

@AlexA. ಠ = 'ಠ'; _ = '_'; print(ಠ, ಠ, sep = _)

Alex A.

22:39

@Dennis Even better.

Except personally I prefer double quotes for strings.

Doorknob

10.3 questions per day

Alex A.

Door.knob questions per knob

Dennis

@AlexA. In Python, I prefer single quotes. Mainly because that's how the REPL usually displays strings.

Alex A.

10.3 doors per knob

Doorknob

Imagine 10 knobs per door

Alex A.

22:40

I'm imagining it.

It's beautiful.

Dennis

OK, that's just creepy.

Alex A.

D:

orlp

22:55

I'm interested to see how people will approach my new challenge

Zgarb

@orlp Just to be clear: input is the concatenation of the first n words of any single row in your table, with n in [1,2,3], and output should be n?

orlp

@Zgarb correct

Zgarb

You might want to put the table before the examples.

It confused me at first.

orlp

Absolutely not.

Zgarb

Why not?

orlp

23:00

Because the examples illustrate the text that came just before it

VoteToClose

@AlexA. wat

orlp

exactly what shouts are allowed is described below that

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Q: How many words of power did I shout?

Given a lowercase ASCII Thu'um phrase without punctuation or spaces, return how many words of power it contains. Example: fusrodah -> 3 dur -> 1 kaandrem -> 2 odah -> 2 vengaarnos -> 3 The input will always be a lowercase ASCII string formed by taking one of the shouts below,...

Zgarb

When I get to the examples, I have no idea what a Thu'um phrase or a word of power is.

So the examples mean nothing to me.

orlp

@Zgarb I've added a little description

VoteToClose

23:02

@ETHproductions Did you make your bot not respond to itself yet?

Zgarb

Ok, now it's clearer. Have a +1.

Geobits

Isn't the thu'um challenge essentially just checking the string length?

ETHproductions

@VoteToClose I did.

Zgarb

@Geobits No, some 4-letter inputs have 1 word and others have 2.

VoteToClose

I'm an idiot.

orlp

23:09

@Geobits Nope

Geobits

Ah, I didn't see od ah viing. I looked specifically for that kind of thing, too :/

VoteToClose

@ETHproductions Did you make it reply yet?

ETHproductions

@VoteToClose Define "reply". Do you mean respond when it's pinged, or respond something sensible once in a while?

Geobits

There's also a five-letter single word, too, now that I look closer.

VoteToClose

And it needs to delay slightly longer - Marky doesn't read quickly.

@ETHproductions Reply to the message it's responding to.

Geobits

23:11

@ETHproductions Yea, I just meant the first word.

Zgarb

I think it's checking the length, with a handful of exceptions that one should golf down.

ETHproductions

@VoteToClose Oh, I see. I'll do that right now.

Zgarb

Or come up with something clever.

Geobits

Yea, that sounds about right.

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Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

23:21

@ETHproductions Any ideas on how to convert a 1000 digit number to binary and back?

ETHproductions

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Un momento, I'll whip up un codo

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Really? :D

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Q: Insert the ascii nul character in the middle of filename on a fat volume

The purpose : Unlike many filesystems, the use of the ascii nul character is legal in filenames if it’s not the first character of the name. So the purpose is to test implementations of the fat filesystem. Rules : The code need to be the shortest as possible (so avoid raw disk byte manipulati...

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user2284570

Is there something off‑topic that time ?

ETHproductions

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Wait, it'll be way harder than I thought :(

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

23:26

@ETHproductions yeah :P

ETHproductions

The basic idea would be to repeatedly divide it by 2 and add the remainder to the beginning of the binary string.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

yeah.

ETHproductions

But now we need code to divide an arbitrarily-sized number by two...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I'm looking in to some arbitrary-precision decimal arithmetic thing for js :P

Calvin's Hobbies

Antonin Scalia has died. Interesting news for the supreme court.

Alex A.

23:27

I... don't know who that is.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Calvin'sHobbies Who's going to take his place?

Alex A.

But I'm very sorry to hear he died. :(

trichoplax

@user2284570 At present there are questions that need to be answered to make your challenge more clear. Until then it won't be clear whether it is on topic or not.

Geobits

@Calvin'sHobbies Oh damn.

Calvin's Hobbies

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ This just happened. We won't know that for a while

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

23:28

Oh.

Geobits

I didn't agree with the man's politics at all, but that sucks.

user2284570

@ETHproductions No what you really need code to insert the nul terminating character in the middle of a string.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I'm sad that he died.

Geobits

I'm assuming there will be a replacement appointed before the next inauguration, but I won't be surprised at all to see Republicans trying to delay it until then.

Calvin's Hobbies

Yeah

trichoplax

23:29

@user2284570 There is more than one conversation going on at once - I think ETHproductions was replying to CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ

ETHproductions

^ That is correct.

Quill

morning

user2284570

@trichoplax : is it about things that aren’t common knowledge ?

El'endia Starman

Wut. I don't remember ever hearing about a Supreme Court judge dying while in the position. (I mean, until just now.)

Zgarb

@user2284570 What do the last two rows mean: "The real challenge: Leverage os level api restrictions !"

El'endia Starman

23:33

Huh, was a lot more common in the past.

Zgarb

Also, why are dos-based systems forbidden?

El'endia Starman

The Washington Post: Why the death of a Supreme Court justice in office is unusual

VoteToClose

Sometimes... I watch a YouTube video and I want to like it but I know I can't because that would mean I repost it which I really, really don't want to do.

Calvin's Hobbies

@AlexA. He was a US Supreme Court Justice for about 30 years. He's known for having a generally conservative attitude.

user2284570

@Zgarb because it would be too easy (direct access to hardware because programs running at privileged ring levels)

Alex A.

23:34

@Calvin'sHobbies Yeah, just skimmed his Wikipedia. I also don't agree with pretty much any of the things he stood for, but still, the loss of a life is a tragedy.

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trichoplax

@user2284570 It's about restrictions that are not explained and uncertainty on what is required and what is excluded.

Calvin's Hobbies

> When the incumbent president is of a different party than the president who appointed the justice, then the justice’s death-in-office odds are about tripled, compared with when the appointing president and the incumbent president are members of the same party.

Curious..

quartata

Hello

El'endia Starman

@Calvin'sHobbies Yeah, I thought so too.

Geobits

Tin foil hat applied.

El'endia Starman

23:38

My guess is that it's stress-related.

Quill

@quartata hi

Alex A.

On an entirely unrelated note: Get PPCG graduation stats whenever you want

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quartata

I'm trying to resurrect pl by fixing all the stupid bugs in the interpreter but I'm running into the most infuriating reference bug

Geobits

Is that your middle initial?

quartata

Somewhere along the way arrays are getting turned into scalars and I have no idea why

Alex A.

23:39

@Geobits Is what whose middle initial?

Geobits

github name

Zgarb

@user2284570 So in other systems, to write a null byte to a file name you need special privileges?

Alex A.

@Geobits My GitHub name is not my middle initial, but it contains my middle initial.

Geobits

Right, that's what I meant. I'm trying to collect enough information to open a bank account, so that helps.

Alex A.

ಠ_ಠ

quartata

23:41

@Geobits haha

Quill

@AlexA. wow, golfers can write nice code. TIL!

Alex A.

My girlfriend when she got home: "Did you hear about Antonin Scalia?" Me: "Yeah." Her: "GOOD RIDDANCE!"

@Quill <3

Geobits

That was a compliment, no?

quartata

@Quill Most of us do write pretty code, honestly.

trichoplax

@AlexA. You're angry at your code being considered nice??

Geobits

23:41

@quartata I don't!

quartata

The trick that code golf teaches us is when to turn that instinct off

Calvin's Hobbies

Can anyone get go.cnn.com/?stream=cnn to work? It always tells me an error has occured

Quill

@quartata it was a joke, and depends what you consider nice

Geobits

Ok, so maybe I do, or at least at work.

quartata

@Geobits You're an exception. After all, you were born to golf

Alex A.

23:42

@trichoplax More that he assumed that code golfers couldn't not golf

El'endia Starman

@Quill How would CR react if I submitted a 1688-line Python program? :P

Alex A.

@quartata s/golf/downvote/

Quill

We've had programs longer than that before

trichoplax

@AlexA. I don't think that's implied, only that golfers' long code still isn't nice :P

El'endia Starman

ah-ha, okay

Quill

23:43

Yo @alex, you should add support for other sites and release it to stackapps :)

Alex A.

@trichoplax OIC

Geobits

@Calvin'sHobbies I'm getting a perma-loading animation.

Alex A.

@Quill Hm, not a bad idea.

I could add all of the A51 stats

But nobody cares about those

Calvin's Hobbies

@Geobits Got it working in ff

Geobits

Ew

Ewwwwwww

Dennis

23:45

@AlexA. -1 not enough jQuery

VoteToClose

ODDLY ADORABLE | i Saw Her Standing There

►

Adorbs. <3

El'endia Starman

Oh yeah, I've played that game.

Good one.

VoteToClose

Really? :D

Dennis

We should probably talk about this before the wedding.

VoteToClose

lel

user2284570

23:48

@Zgarb : worst even as root on an Unix system you can’t rely on system calls for performing that. (but after all you’re free to chose so if you find a solution that don’t run on windows unix or dos then that’s find)

By the way, I edited the post :

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Q: Insert the ascii nul character in the middle of filename on a fat volume

The purpose : Unlike many filesystems, the use of the nul byte on fat volumes is legal in filenames if it’s not the first character of the name. So the purpose is to test implementations of the fat filesystem. Rules : The code need to be the shortest as possible (so avoid raw disk byte manipu...

code-golf file-system

On Windows®, the ᴡɪɴᴀᴘɪ strip the ᴀꜱᴄɪɪ ɴᴜʟ character as a matter of security, so you’ll have to use the undocumented ɴᴛ one.

@trichoplax : Are there still things which looks like unexplained ? (if yes which ones)

trichoplax

@user2284570 It isn't clear to me that the following advice will apply to all languages: "(so avoid raw disk byte manipulations)"

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