The Nineteenth Byte

Alex A.

03:01

@Dennis ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

orlp

@El'endiaStarman 66 is still calculating

VoteToClose

I think the bot is teaching us more than we're teaching it. >.>

in Beep Boop Maggot, 1 min ago, by VoteToClose

Do you want to pollinate, settle down, and have little caterpillars of your own?

trichoplax

> I'm pretty sure issues with Infinity aren't limited

Geobits

nice

VoteToClose

ಠ_ಠ

Alex A.

03:05

ice

VoteToClose

That pun is unacceptable.

Geobits

Vote to close it then.

VoteToClose

Lemongrab - UNACCEPTABLE CONDITION!

►

VTC'd.

quartata

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Bridge Hand Scoring One of the things that makes contract bridge very interesting is its highly complicated "artificial" meta game. This system of scoring hands is a small part of it. Bridge is a trick-taking card game. Each player gets a hand of 13 cards, and the game starts with the bidding. ...

Any thoughts on this before I post it?

VoteToClose

Also, @AlexA., get rekt by Geobots.

quartata

03:06

@VoteToClose what post

VoteToClose

in Beep Boop Maggot, 3 mins ago, by Alex A.

Are you ignoring me now?

trichoplax

In celebration of hitting 10 Qs per day, output the number 10 in the least creative way, where creativity is objectively defined by the following function of your source code.

Just need to think of a suitable function...

Alex A.

@trichoplax Pyth, 1 byte: T

Dennis

closed as unclear

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Jolf, 1 bytes: t

Alex A.

03:09

> 1 bytes

VoteToClose

Vitsy, 1 byte: a

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Oh, sorry, 1 byx

quartata

Everything on the planet two bytes 10

trichoplax

@AlexA. Yeah - the function should not be "length of your source code"

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@trichoplax How about restricted-source?

somebody

03:10

Jelly, 1 byte: ⁵

Alex A.

@trichoplax Pyth, <insert whatever scoring mechanism you want>: T.

trichoplax

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I was thinking no restrictions but the score is some awkward function

Geobits

You guys seem to be forgetting that Dennis hit it with his mod hammer :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Geobits Mehhhhh

trichoplax

How can it be closed before it even makes it as far as the sandbox??

It wasn't an entirely serious suggestion though...

somebody

03:12

Jelly, 10 bytes: ;;;;;;;;;ċ or 1+++++++++

quartata

There's something wrong with that bridge challenge but I'm not sure what it is

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@somebody don't cry :(

Dennis

Geobits

Can we do it as code bowling instead? ;)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Or underhanded

trichoplax

03:14

NOOO!

Alex A.

@Dennis :D

Dennis

What do you mean by or? code-bowling underhanded

2

trichoplax

Shudder

Dennis

Or popularity-bowling: answer with the most votes (no matter if up or down) wins.

5

quartata

hahahahahah

El'endia Starman

03:16

@quartata: Computer crashed and Windows took the opportunity to update.

quartata

Ah.

El'endia Starman

I really need to figure out what the deal with video games and crashing is.

Seems more likely to happen if the graphics are more intense.

somebody

http://meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/8389/lets-make-more-ads-for-our-site-2016-edition
^- there should probably be a short, interesting puzzle on the ad

quartata

@El'endiaStarman CS:S is pretty tame.

You could try turning your graphics down I suppose

It is a 12 year old game though

El'endia Starman

@quartata Yeah. I wonder how it compares with Minecraft, though.

Dennis

03:18

@El'endiaStarman ._.

quartata

@El'endiaStarman well considering it actually was written by programmers who knew what they were doing

I actually get better FPS in CS:S usually than in Minecraft.

El'endia Starman

hmm

Investigation needed.

quartata

You can do cl_showfps 1

to show your fps

I'm getting 100+ fps right now

Whereas I normally get 40-60 in Minecraft.

El'endia Starman

Oh, fps was fine. No stuttering or anything.

I think it's like a fault in the graphics card is hit and causes a crash or something.

Calvin's Hobbies

@Doorknob chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/30332/conversation/…

quartata

03:20

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Bridge Hand Scoring One of the things that makes contract bridge very interesting is its highly complicated "artificial" meta game. This system of scoring hands is a small part of it. Bridge is a trick-taking card game. Each player gets a hand of 13 cards, and the game starts with the bidding. ...

no thoughts on this

Alex A.

I have no thoughts ever

5

quartata

I feel like there's something about it that's unclear but I can't figure it out

@AlexA. that explains a lot

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AlexA. but you're our mod...!

Alex A.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

@quartata ಠ_ಠ

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@C wikipedia Octet — rici 19 secs ago

A response to me.

quartata

03:28

Octet = byte

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

o-o

Dennis

@quartata Not necessarily. An octet always has 8 bits.

quartata

Right, but usually bytes are 8 bits.

Dennis

Octet =(usually) byte

Calvin's Hobbies

Marky is becoming more like us:

5

in Beep Boop Maggot, 2 mins ago, by Marky Markov

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I've been trying to figure out how to make a challenge that works in the sandbox.

trichoplax

03:31

According to a chat search that exact phrase has never been spoken. Interesting.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@trichoplax How about substrings?

Dennis

This is starting to freak me out.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^

trichoplax

Marky has all of our powers combined

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

But some of us are terrible at things

in Beep Boop Maggot, 20 mins ago, by Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Geobits That is truly freaky.

trichoplax

03:32

...and all of our weaknesses too

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

in Beep Boop Maggot, 19 mins ago, by VoteToClose

He just knows.

quartata

@Dennis haha

trichoplax

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I've tried a few long substrings and none show up

Eridan

code-golf Convince Jeff Atwood to visit The Nineteenth Byte in as few bytes as possible

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@trichoplax officially terrified.

@Eridan We have your children.

Geobits

03:35

Not golfy. Just say kid

Eridan

(Entires may or may not be copied to Tavern on the Meta :P)

Aw he deleted it

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

who deleted what?

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Q: Bridge Hand Scoring

One of the things that makes contract bridge very interesting is its highly complicated "artificial" meta game. This system of scoring hands is a small part of it. Bridge is a trick-taking card game. Each player gets a hand of 13 cards, and the game starts with the bidding. The bidding determine...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@VoteToClose Google E (Radio Mix) by Drunkenmunkey.

VoteToClose

DrunkenMunky - E

►

?

quartata

03:43

2

El'endia Starman

El'endia Starman, United States

5.1k 1 15 46

code-golf string math arithmetic sequence number number-theory

quartata

finally

El'endia Starman

Congrats! :D

You've got 59 more rep to go to catch up to me. :P

VoteToClose

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I like it. :D It's a little light for my tastes, but the pseudo-jazzy part of it is awesome. :D

quartata

It took me wayyyy too long to get 5k (mostly due to laziness :P)

I'm going to try my absolute hardest to get to 10k as soon as possible I needz my mod tools

Alex A.

03:47

What for?

quartata

What's the rep needed for protecting things on graduated sites?

@AlexA. So I can find old junk answers and look at pretty close vote stats

Alex A.

@quartata 15k

stackoverflow.com/help/privileges

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@VoteToClose cool!

quartata

Hm. I don't think I can get to that before we graduate.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

If we graduate.

PhiNotPi

03:51

a work-in-progress piece of music I just wrote: soundcloud.com/phinotpi/flats

El'endia Starman

Pretty sure we will.

RikerW

^

DON"T BE NON_OPTIMISTIC @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ!

Eridan

@RikerW Pessimistic?

Liam

@PhiNotPi what software did you do that in?

PhiNotPi

Finale

RikerW

03:52

@Eridan whatever

Liam

We had that at my school but I never really used it. It's pretty ubiquitous right?

PhiNotPi

Either Finale or Sibelius

Liam

Sibelius is pretty high end (read: expensive) though?

PhiNotPi

I think $300 with student discount.

Liam

Yeah that's pricey

PhiNotPi

03:55

Looks like somebody just followed my soundcloud.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

> you can represent each triplet [of digits] in 10 bits

How might I do this? :/

El'endia Starman

I have four Sandbox posts at +2 score and all on the same page. :P

quartata

Rosegarden is free but you have to set up JACK and QSynth which is a pain in the ass

PhiNotPi

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I think it's pretty straightfoward: there's 10^3 "triplets of digits" which is slightly less than 2^10.

El'endia Starman

@PhiNotPi Slightly less. 1000 vs 1024.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

03:58

> greaterles

I love it.

quartata

anyways bye

El'endia Starman

seeya!

PhiNotPi

@El'endiaStarman you saw nothing

trichoplax

@quartata Don't worry you have 6 to 8 weeks yet

somebody

Musescore is free

Liam

03:58

Is it just me or is the Featured Meta Posts --> Sandbox link gone?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quartata bai!

> If you work on the number in groups of three digits, you can represent each triplet in 10 bits with very little wastage. Then you "just" need to create a stream of 8-bit octets from your stream of 10-bit triples, which will require a certain amount of bit-shifting, but is not awfully complicated.

just help I'm so confused ._.

El'endia Starman

@PhiNotPi Suuuure. On a different topic, did you see the gif I posted several hours ago?

PhiNotPi

@Liam Not just you, thinks get auto-unfeatured after a while and have to be added back.

@El'endiaStarman Yes

Doorknob

@PhiNotPi um, the featured tag is still there this time though O_o

trichoplax

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ It just means taking your stream of bytes and considering it as a stream of bits, and chopping it up into chunks of 10

PhiNotPi

04:01

@Liam Assuming that you're the new follower, considering listening to some of my other stuff. It's of varying levels of completeness.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@trichoplax So... take a group of three digits, convert to binary, join bits, then re-parse?

VoteToClose

in Beep Boop Maggot, 1 min ago, by Marky Markov

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ <i>sigh</i>

trichoplax

@Doorknob I'm also not seeing it in the featured box, but I was recently (less than an hour ago)

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Yes - you may need to add padding bits to make up to a multiple of 8 otherwise you'll be left with a fraction of a byte at the end of the stream

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Ah, I see.

Liam

@PhiNotPi I'm giving them a listen. What's your musical background?

Doorknob

04:04

@ThomasKwa don't think it matters

@orlp now I am, why?

Alex A.

@Liam He's super into Norwegian black metal

Doorknob

@Calvin'sHobbies hahaha :D

PhiNotPi

@Liam I've played clarinet as part of middle/high school and university bands.

No private lessons or music theory classes.

Liam

black metal = death metal? or just songs about the color black

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Thanks @trichoplax :D

Alex A.

04:05

Black metal is another subgenre of metal

The overlap of black metal and death metal is blackened death metal

trichoplax

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ :)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

My SO score is a power of two :D

Alex A.

Also I was kidding; AFAIK Phi does not listen to metal

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Liam

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ about to find you and vote on something

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

04:06

._.

somebody

click name in chat -> profile

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

how do I have 24 questions on SO? O_O

VoteToClose

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ memories

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@VoteToClose ?

VoteToClose

Lol, I thought that was an old pic of your PPCG profile.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

04:08

Oh, I see.

PhiNotPi

@Liam My view on Norwegian black metal is that it is literally pink noise.

Liam

<-- about to google norwegian black metal

Alex A.

DO IT

Which band?

Eridan

Let my SO score be ABC where A, B, and C are all digits (i.e. AB is a two digit number). For me, AB^2+C^2=ABC.

In short, my SO score is 101 :P

Alex A.

Oh, for some reason I read "listen to" instead of "google." Wishful thinking.

Liam

04:09

first result that is a video on google --> youtube.com/watch?v=s0VGrXv66ZA

Alex A.

1349 is not that Satanic.

Liam

It does sound like there is just a layer of white noise over it...

Alex A.

Mayhem, on the other hand.

Liam

I think it is supposed to be drums though...

Alex A.

One of the members committed suicide and they took a photo and used it as an album cover.

Liam

04:10

effed up....

Alex A.

Dawn of the Black Hearts

Liam

back to phinotpi's relaxing music

I'm pretty impressed by finale's sound fonts or whatever you call them

Eridan

"Chainsaw Gutsfuck" sounds like a pleasant song

Alex A.

It's not that great

Liam

are you big into the black metal?

Eridan

04:16

Forgive me if I'm missing something, but why does it say "Porpise Challenge" as opposed to "Propose Challenge" on the overlay?

GamrCorps

@Eridan lol, just noticed that.

Alex A.

@Liam Haha. I liked it in high school. Not really anymore.

GamrCorps

Speaking of which, is the sandbox in the sidebar for you guys? It still has the featured tag but it isnt showing up...

Downgoat

2 days ago, by Downgoat

How has no one noticed this in the userscript yet ಠ_ಠ

Calvin's Hobbies

@Eridan where?

oh

GamrCorps

04:18

I was wondering why "Speeking" had a red line under it... Oh yeah, its because I can't spell

Eridan

I've noticed :)

Is there an inside joke as to why it hasn't been fixed?

Downgoat

@Eridan Try updating. I fixed that a few days ago

El'endia Starman

Any last thoughts before I post this?

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Electrons bouncing in a wire Imagine a "wire" that has n spaces. Imagine further that there are "electrons" in that wire. These electrons only live for one unit of time. Any spaces in the wire that are adjacent to exactly one electron become an electron. In Game of Life terminology, this is B1/S...

PhiNotPi

yes

Charge isn't conserved.

Alex A.

@GamrCorps No, not sure what's going on.

GamrCorps

04:20

@AlexA. huh, thats weird...

Eridan

How do you update the overlay?

El'endia Starman

@PhiNotPi Sure it is! You see.....uh.....oh, yeah, all electrons are really the same electron, traveling back and forth through time!

PhiNotPi

8/10 seems accurate

VoteToClose

@Downgoat @Eridan github.com/vihanb/PPCG-Design/pull/43

Doorknob

El'endia Starman

04:23

haha, nice

@Geobits, what's the perplexity now?

Geobits

Ummm..... not sure. Not at the house, but it was 21 around nine hours ago.

El'endia Starman

cool

VoteToClose

Baahahahaa!

Doorknob

@El'endiaStarman did you ever figured out n=36 D:

VoteToClose

El'endia Starman

04:27

@Doorknob I haven't been intently thinking about that.

Doorknob

also, the list in your challenge is missing the last few ns I think

GamrCorps

Code Golf & the Bitshift Variations - Computerphile

►

El'endia Starman

There's probably value in trying to derive the periods from the length via thinking about how electrons interact.

@Doorknob Yes, it's missing 46-65.

I don't really think it's necessary to include those.

Downgoat

Can this message be starred please so I can test the design userscript

GamrCorps

^^^^^Appeared in my youtube feed because of "code golf". Still a cool video though.

VoteToClose

04:28

Guys, can we please take a moment to adore what just happened?

2

El'endia Starman

36 is the oddball that will screw up everyone that tries to use a nice, simple pattern. :P

trichoplax

@VoteToClose What just happened?

VoteToClose

I just put in a pull request on PPCG design called "Fex Spullng" that replaced "Propose Challenge" with "Porpoise Challenge" and it got merged by accident to master.

2

quintopia

@GamrCorps I love this song. The world needs more bytebeat.

GamrCorps

soundcloud.com/robertskmiles/bitshift-variations-in-c-minor (Just the song)

quintopia

04:32

I have just made the world's first 99 bottles program in SELECT. It is 19 Mebibytes long.

Doorknob

in Beep Boop Maggot, 1 min ago, by Marky Markov

@Geobits I'm not sure if I'm going to be a good idea

6

quintopia

(That's the properly indented and spaced version. The minified version will be probably half that.)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@qui what is SELECT, and how long is that?

VoteToClose

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Q: Electrons bouncing in a wire

Imagine a "wire" that has n spaces. Imagine further that there are "electrons" in that wire. These electrons only live for one unit of time. Any spaces in the wire that are adjacent to exactly one electron become an electron. In Game of Life terminology, this is B1/S. For example, this is a wire...

code-golf cellular-automata

El'endia Starman

04:35

Oh there you are.

2

quartata

@ThomasKwa I can't comment on mobile for whatever reason. Fixed that test case.

Thomas Kwa

@quartata Okay

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@qua my mobile has only one tab, and is in monochrome.

Quill

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ look at these 5 treatments for old age!! you'll never believe number 3

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

huhwat

VoteToClose

04:38

^

quartata

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ A Kindle?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

yes @qua

Quill

あたまがわるい

Doorknob

in Beep Boop Maggot, 21 secs ago, by Marky Markov

@trichoplax I think I'm going to be a _UNK

Quill

Lifegoals/10

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

04:42

看觉得很哦会哦身体赶回。这是的

Doorknob

.i mi na'e bangu jimpe .i .uanai

Alex A.

translate: 看觉得很哦会哦身体赶回。这是的

(from zh-CHS) Am oh oh back to the body. Yes

...

Geobits

@Quill What is atama?

Alex A.

Head

Geobits

Ah, ok.

Thomas Kwa

04:44

@Doorknob What's a "bangu jimpe"?

Doorknob

@ThomasKwa "I do not language-understand"

it's a tanru—"I do not (language type-of understand)"

Thomas Kwa

I know what the words mean

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

|—| € |_ |* /\/\ €

Thomas Kwa

It just sounds strange

VoteToClose

Looks like it's here to stay. :D

Doorknob

04:46

@ThomasKwa AFAIK it's a valid use of tanru. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Alternative translation: "I do not understand languageishly"

VoteToClose

in Beep Boop Maggot, 39 secs ago, by Calvin's Hobbies

Do Geobits and you get kinky?

Thomas Kwa

@Doorknob Maybe it's my unlojbanic ear

PhiNotPi

@El'endiaStarman Has anyone submitted that sequence to OEIS?

El'endia Starman

@PhiNotPi I submitted it an hour or so ago. :D

quintopia

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ esolang.rutteric.com/select.html

VoteToClose

04:47

4

Thomas Kwa

@quartata Can we take input as a list of lines?

Quill

@Geobits use your head and figure it out

Doorknob

@ThomasKwa If anything, mine is more {na'e lojbo} :P Maybe I should have said it differently

Geobits

@Quill <_<

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

/\/\ '/ ... |⟪ € '/ [3 0 /-\ [* [】... | $ ... $ | _/ € |⟪

Thomas Kwa

04:50

Don't you also use na to negate true/false things, and na'e to invert... other things?

Doorknob

{na'e} is scalar negation (as in, "not Lojbanic, but somewhere else along the Lojbanicness scale"), and {na} is simply "not Lojbanic" (maybe not on the Lojbanicness scale at all).

Or at least as far as I understand it

"other-than-Lojbanic" rather than "not-Lojbanic"

Alex A.

Does anything mean anything in Lojban or is it just a collection of consonant clusters?

Doorknob

.i'enaisai

El'endia Starman

@Doorknob: 10q/day now. :P

Thomas Kwa

@AlexA. Lojban actually doesn't have many clusters.

VoteToClose

04:53

Guys, Marky learned how to do double negatives. We're teaching him so much.

Doorknob

@El'endiaStarman I saw, yeah

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

ugh finally fixed the keyboard

Alex A.

@ThomasKwa That was mostly a joke. :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

good night

VoteToClose

.o/

Thomas Kwa

04:54

@AlexA. Then I responded to the portion that wasn't.

'night Conor

Alex A.

@ThomasKwa You responded to the part that was a joke.

I'm pretty convinced that nothing in Lojban actually means anything.

VoteToClose

Oh my days.

in Beep Boop Maggot, 43 secs ago, by Marky Markov

@trichoplax ( that's the same thing )

He's got some sick moves now. xD

Doorknob

@AlexA. .i do to'e drani

Alex A.

I would try to figure out what that means, but if there's one thing I've learned from Lojban translators, it's that it doesn't translate to anything but weird diagrams.

Doorknob

haha

"you opposite-of correct," so basically alex-is-wrong

Thomas Kwa

04:58

That would usually be toldrani though

Doorknob

looks like {toldra} is in vlasisku, yeah

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