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02:00
Well these in particular shouldn't change, but it's non-obvious for people with terrible spatial reasoning.
@Geobits What's the perplexity at?
166 overall, 19 to 188 per bucket. (buckets are grouped by message length, bucket 0 is shortest)
Interesting.
They're bucketed to save time parallelizing.
So it does batches of short sentences together with other short ones, so they don't get done before longer ones and sit.
Bucket
02:02
Or something along those lines.
Buckets have been used for parallelizing for a long time
A bucket brigade or human chain is a method for transporting items where items are passed from one stationary person to the next. The method was important in firefighting before the advent of hand pumped fire engines, whereby firefighters would pass buckets to each other to extinguish a blaze. A famous example of this is the Union Fire Company. This technique is still common where using machines to move water, supplies, or other items would be impractical. This method needs a number of participants sufficient for covering the distance. == As a metaphorEdit == This principle inspired vari...
Looks prone to deadlocks.
I've done bucket brigades before and they can be extremely inefficient if not done correctly
I've done it with luggage on a few occasions. It is no fun, that's for sure.
I've written a rant on stupid linters over on programmers. Adding a named constant for the 100 here would just be obfuscation. However, I feel you aren't looking for a code review of that very small snippet, but for best practices regarding such cases, which unfortunately is an opinion-based question. — amon Mar 11 '14 at 9:24
Said rant is deleted. :(
02:05
A bucket or pail is typically a watertight, vertical cylinder or truncated cone, with an open top and a flat bottom, attached to a semicircular carrying handle called the bail. A common volume is 10 liters (10 dm³). == HistoryEdit == Building materials and solvents have been packaged in large metal pails, but in recent decades plastic buckets have been greatly favored. Plastic buckets have more uses due to the popularity of plastic for food products and the tendency of metal pails to rust. == Types and usesEdit == There are many types of buckets; A water bucket is used to carry water Household...
I made the code nicer, updating to most of Quill's edits. Thoughts before I put it on CR? (aka anything I should do before smart people start yelling at me for what I thought were trivialities)
Change tabs to spaces
Use 2 spaces instead of tabs
02:11
Don't use wildcard imports
Don't name your counter variable i
Other than that it's OK
Use 4 spaces for indentation for every language except Ruby, which gets 2 spaces.
@AlexA. er no 2 spaces
4 spaces is ugly
You could get rid of a few functions by doing more of a face(Direction direction){} instead of a function for each direction.
@quartata ಠ_ಠ
@AlexA. You know it's true
02:12
If you guys would just use tabs you could display it however you wanted :P
@Geobits You're joking right
I can't tell if there is facetiousness here regarding the spaces, but I'll change i and try to figure out what to correctly import.
Don't even
One person sees two spaces, one sees four. It's really very simple.
1 min ago, by quartata
Don't use wildcard imports
02:13
Don't even try to justify tabs
Just don't
^
>:D
private Direction dir;
It's the worst idea in the world and the only reason ASCII has tabs is because of typewriters
@AlexA. what say you of no +10?
I don't have to justify them. They're correct and everyone knows it.
02:13
6 characters, and you understand the code better
@Geobits Hell no
@quartata Tabs are for justifying
Tabs. Are. Satan.
(that was just for the pun - obviously use spaces)
Tabs are manna from heaven.
02:14
Use spaces, and it looks the same everywhere.
Think about this. Do you really want to side with Alex on this? Consider his track record ;)
dir changed to currentDirection
@quartata Yes, but then you have ridiculous 2v4 arguments. There's just no pleasing some people, so why try?
@Geobits But tabs break things
02:15
dir should be _direction
With spaces then at least you're not breaking things
Eclipse defaults with tabs
@Eridan Well then that's stupid
Don't use it
@quartata I have never, ever, ever, had a tab break any piece of code ever.
That's a bad excuse.
02:15
or does _direction assume readonly? hmmm
Is currentDirection wrong?
I've had tabs make my code look weird in GitHub all the time
@Calvin'sHobbies I'm disappointed. I was told by a developer that it can be set on a per-site basis. I proposed it, got the community excited about it with near unanimous support, and now that it isn't happening, I feel guilty, like I misled everyone. :/
@Eridan no, that's just usually how you set internal properties
Oh, ok
02:16
@Geobits It may not break in your editor, but it may break in someone else's editor. Or in a SE post. Or in Github.
JUST DON'T DO IT
There are many good and relevant examples of tabs breaking things. Like that time I left a vase to the side of my typewriter
@Quill GitHub always shows tabs as 8 spaces so that it's immediately obvious that whomever wrote the code should be punished.
Will smart people yell at me if I post something with tabs on CR?
@Eridan Change IDE settings, eg, set font to Comic Sans
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02:17
@Eridan CR don't really care about tabs, except when you mess them up
@quartata It only ever looks weird if you mix the two. If you stick to one or the other, there's no weirdness. And either way nothing breaks.
@Quill Then they're staying until I fix the nontrivial things
@Eridan SE converts tabs to spaces, so nobody will notice.
@Eridan CRers expect bad code. stop fussing about perfecting yours
11 secs ago, by Dennis
@Eridan SE converts tabs to spaces, so nobody will notice.
@Calvin'sHobbies We don't expect bad code, we just expect working (insert more help center phrases) code
02:18
@AlexA. I can't imagine why anyone would hold it against you.
@trichoplax I'm out 20k rep.....
@Quill Should I put a public static void main(String[] args) so anyone who tries to run the code with the jar sees something produced?
should be okay as is, you don't really need that
@Eridan No
@AlexA. ;P
02:19
@Calvin'sHobbies ?
@trichoplax I don't think they would, I just feel like I should have researched it more, maybe talked to a CM or two, before getting people excited about it.
Ok, I'll go about seeing how to fix the wildcard import and post it. Sorry for reigniting a tab-space war
@AlexA. If you keep explaining it, maybe eventually someone will blame you :P
u_u
Bring the shame
@AlexA. Personally, even I knew in advance it was impossible, I would still want to know how the community feels about it. I feel I know the community a little better now.
Dammit @trichoplax. You're so diplomatic and inspiring.
02:22
Is this about our annual "change rep values" thing?
@AlexA. Go bug cms about grad to make up for it
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@AlexA. wrong
@Eridan I remember the moment I saw an answer using mixed tabs and spaces to save bytes by alternating them for indentation. It was beautiful. Horrifically, painfully beautiful.
48 secs ago, by Calvin's Hobbies
@AlexA. Go bug cms about grad to make up for it
this
I forgot mods could convert things to comments
02:24
They can.
in Pytek, 1 min ago, by El'endia Starman
What do you call a broken record that doesn't repeat?
@AlexA. Yeah??! Well you're understanding and encouraging. You don't see me complaining!
Crap. Something went wrong. Perplexity went below 100, and it got far worse:
Reading model parameters from train/translate.ckpt-1650
> where are you from?
I ' ' t ' t ' t a a the the the the the
> well that's not good
I ' ' t ' t ' t a a the the the the the
> I think something might have gone wrong.
I ' ' t ' t ' t ' t a a the the the
> Help.
I ' ' t ' t ' t a a the the the the the
> ^
_UNK
> Seriously?
I ' ' t ' t ' t ' t a a the the the
> ^
_UNK
> ninja'd
I ' ' t ' t ' t a a the the the the the
> dammit, you stupid thing
I ' ' t ' t ' t a a the the the the the
Let it do its thing
02:25
It's like it stopped trying :(
Oh, I know. It's still running, but I wanted to peek >_>
@Calvin'sHobbies Grace Note said he'd research the issue and post on our meta about it. In the meantime I think there are things we should address before our site is effectively "finalized."
@AlexA. Like five reasons our background should be avocad green.
@AlexA. like the best of ppcg thingy
@Calvin'sHobbies We'll... get back to you on that. >_>
I mean more like the site text stuff that Martin mentioned, among other things.
@Geobits IT SHUD
AVOCODE GOLF
Our logo should be an avocad
@AlexA. Be transparent with us. What's going on with it?
Bonus: If you squint, a cartoon avocado could be a hole on a golf course, with the flesh as the fairway, pit as the green.
Or something along those lines.
@Geobits That's a reason to avoid it. No sports references
@AlexA. I'm only expecting a winners meta post, nothing special
@quartata Honestly, none of the mods know. It's the whole thing was pretty much Martin's deal. Figuring out next steps is on his to-do list, since he kept track of who offered what for the winners.
02:29
@AlexA. aren't they a she?
@trichoplax It's got layers, man. Only the insiders will see it for what it truly is, the mighty acovad.
@Quill No.
I bet the mods are secretly making a celebratory challenge
@Quill No
@Calvin'sHobbies Zgarb already made one.
02:29
@Calvin'sHobbies That would be pretty cool
@Geobits Ew. I hate it when avocados get layers
@AlexA. oh (ninjad)
A celibate challenge? o_O
@quartata oh?
@El'endiaStarman broken
02:30
@Calvin'sHobbies oh
@Geobits No answers until it's married
@AlexA. oh?
@Calvin'sHobbies oh
I did, but it's unpublished.
@AlexA. oh?
02:30
It has a Z, but it's ungarbed.
avocadoh?
Avocadon't
02:31
Yes, once I get today's transcript, that will be the piece that lets the net make sense of it all. Today's makes far more sense to an outsider.
Must buy avocados tomorrow
Our logo should be a halved avocado with a golf ball for a pit
I tried a golf/avocado mashup. tricho was sad.
02:32
I think avocados are why were not graduating. All the juic messed up the server.
It's true
Unlike mashed avocado, which would make nobody sad.
@Dennis BUT THEY NO JUIC
How do you put code in an SE post without the 4 spaces every time? Is it just <code> </code>?
Free 2 GB storage on Googal Dr1ve for doing security checkup
in JavaScript - Spread Knowledge; Abolish Ignorance on Stack Overflow Chat, 8 mins ago, by little pootis
https://www.reddit.com/r/google/comments/44r5i8/safer_internet_day_2016_get_2gb_‌​of_google_drive/
02:32
Or highlight it all and Ctrl+k
Or hit the code button.
Before I learnt these things I used to paste into an editor, increase indent, then paste back to SE
I never learned those things so I still do that
@Quill Sweet!
sweerpotato?
@MartinBüttner <insert nag about best of ppcg>
02:35
@MartinBüttner <insert>
I thought it was clear that all the nominees were judged to be terrible, and not a single post with merit could be found, thus rendering a "best of" an exercise in futility.
<ppcg>
But I wasn't around for it, so I could be wrong.
The general consensus was that the entire site is crap and we don't need +10 for questions.
02:36
So I was right? :D
No apology needed since you seemed to have converted your tabs to spaces
@AlexA. ಠ_ಠ
@AlexA. DON"T SUPPORT THE MENACE THAT IS SPACES FOR INDENTATION
See, you'd like to think that. The truth is, pasting tabs in doesn't break anything.
@Geobits It breaks my heart
02:37
Bird hearts are frail, so that's hardly my fault ;)
@AlexA. loves spaces so much that there's one in his S/O handle
S/E?
Stack Slash Exchange. Duh :P
G. O. Bits?
lol
02:39
Yep
@Geobits tabs or spaces?
He likes tabs
Scrolling would have answered that. Or not even scrolling :P
Good.
TABS ARE LIFE
Hopefully his son will learn the One True Way™, the way of spaces for indentation.
02:40
@AlexA. its boge
There will be no heresy in my house.
@AlexA. NEVER
@Calvin'sHobbies Is that in some way related to doge?
02:41
buffalo
Gerald
Mr. Oobe
Flummox
Mom Flux
02:42
Flux Capacitor
Gruntle
this is why they don't graduate us...
Yeah, because we can't keep the chain going long enough.
I don't care if we graduate. If we could just get to Gamma I'd be happy
02:43
This is also why Geobits' experiment with the sentence guesser is failing so hard. :P
So. Hard.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Eventually it will gather enough data and suddenly start spewing graduation predictions
It's working away, though. I'll see what happens with a fresh snapshot in the morning.
@trichoplax Huh. There's an idea. Alpha, beta, gamma, delta, epsilon, ...
Instead of version 0, 1, 2, 3, etc. :P
02:44
If nothing good (I estimate about 25k steps then), I'll restructure the input some and try again.
Programming Puzzles & Code Golf - Zeta
"Oh hey guys! We forgot to graduate you! Sorry!"
*forgets again*
ಠ_ಠ
@Calvin'sHobbies I thought that series didn't start until Minibits grows up and has his own kid.
02:45
What would Minibits call his kid?
Miniminibits?
Microbits?
Nanobits, Picobits...
Minibits should be called Millibits, then.
02:46
You don't measure things in minimeters?
@El'endiaStarman Too late, apathy and inertia have set in.
That's a powerful combination
Besides, I have mini- and micro- USB ports around here, so it works.
As long as it's not thunderbits.
02:48
Lightningbits. Mmmm...
Floppybits
Firebits
@Calvin'sHobbies Hard...bits...?
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
02:52
8 mins ago, by Geobits
So. Hard.
Reading model parameters from train/translate.ckpt-2450
> Hello
^
> That's new
^
> Ah, so you found out about carrots?
yes
> Really?
^
> Dammit, stop that.
I ' m it ' s a the the the the the the the the
> Never mind. Go back to the carrots.
I ' m it ' s a the the the the the the the the
> Uh...
I ' m it ' s a the the the the the the the the
> stop
^
> huh
^
> -1 for unoriginality
^
> bye
^
> I need sleep.
I ' m it ' s a the the the the the the the the
> bye!
^
hahaha
It's hilarious how it had that one spot-on reply.
Yep. Just the one, but it made me smile.
> > Ah, so you found out about carrots?
> yes
02:54
Now it's just messing with you
I ' m it ' s a the the the the the the the the
Yea, he picked up a stutter that is slow to go away.
It was in the last batch, too, but more often.
I guess it'll be slower to go away once you include today's transcript...
Oh hai Geobits reskin.
(@GamrCorps :P)
(On account of the similar blue/white scheme.)
02:59
Nah. My sock doesn't use blue/white :P
you have a sock then?
I have two on right now.
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Q: Improving a robot's ability to navigate the plane with Karel J. Robot

EridanI am in my first year of formally learning computer programming in high school (we are using Java). One of the tools we used was Karel J. Robot, which can be downloaded here. Although we finished using Karel after a semester, I felt that there was a lot more I could do with it. I decided to use s...

it's not closed
good work
Why would it be...?
@Geobits Not just one?
03:02
Theory: Grace Note is Geobit's bot
I two have too socks on.
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Umm. No? One for each foot.
@Doorknob Couldn't you just alias vim to nvim?
@Sp3000 So that's why Geobits knows when we'll graduate
Shhh. Don't blow my cover.
03:03
It's not so much Geobits knows when as it is Geobits decides when :o
I ' m it ' s a the the the the the the the the
@trichoplax That's what happens when you ask it directly for a graduation date.
:)
I understand the repeated the - I posted a comment with two successive thes earlier myself. I'm confused by the space buffered apostrophes though.
Those are because it's outputting raw tokens, and it apparently has a terrible tokenizer.
Can be fixed, but will wait for baseline results.
@Sp3000 Grace Bits
03:06
Baseline meaning run it overnight and see what comes out in the morning with minimal/no data filtering/processing.
I can also try increasing the net size or depth, but that would probably slow things down considerably.
Maybe you need a challenge...
Eww..... just looked at the vocab file it made. Yea, the tokenizer is bad and I need to do some filtering. Top 15 tokens by frequency:
"
.
,
:
'
the
I
;
a
to
class=
?
it
of
that
So it makes sense that it's spitting out oddball crap.
Need to prune onebox links if nothing else.
I'm seeing divs and hrefs pretty common here.
well hate to pull a jedi but goodbye
> Oh not again
com/questions/tagged/alex-is-wrong (from the tag link) is the 3232nd most common token in the TNB vocabulary.
03:16
97
Q: Why do door knobs still exist?

Mladen JablanovićAs far as I know, in US, grip-and-turn style door knobs are still the most popular, as opposed to lever-style handles, which dominate in the rest of the world. Is there some UX advantage to door knobs that I am not aware of, which is the reason for keeping them around? Edit: To clarify the dif...

@Doorknob :O ^
I literally just drew cartoon characters.
And I would've been one of those who say they can't draw.
03:35
I CAN DRAW!
o-)
Ascii art man in a boat.
@Geobits The class= means it is reading the HTML tags.
(ascii art counts)
That's a problem.
@quartata Yea, that's what I meant. I need to clean it up quite a bit.
> In languages where ' and " (single and double quotes) are both used for designating string, which do you use?
pls vote adn i giv avocad juic
03:40
" for strings to be interpolated, ' for strings that shouldn't
@RikerW that is one of the questions on goo.gl/forms/iWORTLCkYs
@AlexA. ok I'm considering putting this in my profile because people have sent me this link way too many times past the point that it can continue to be funny
@AlexA. um yes probably
Some more 5/4 stuff I've written (the first half is the same as yesterday): soundcloud.com/phinotpi/tens2-harpsichord
@Doorknob ?
what link
@quartata reply button exists for a reason
03:45
Maybe I dropped my mouse and was too lazy to pick it back up for a reply.
You knew what I meant, at any rate.
... no, as in, that message was a reply
"balpha needs more data" That sounds about right. — Adam Davis Dec 18 '15 at 15:23
wow
that hurts
03:54
that hurt more
04:12
0
A: The Lucas-nacci Numbers

ӍѲꝆΛҐӍΛПҒЦꝆDUP, 33 bytes [a:0 1$4[a;1-$a:][1ø3*4ø-]#%%%] Try it here! An anonymous lambda that leaves a sequence of numbers on the stack. Usage: 8[a:0 1$4[a;1-$a:][1ø3*4ø-]#%%%]! Explanation [ {start lambda} a: {save input number to a} 0 ...

I think I have mastered DUP.
so DUP is golf-ish?
in that its score is directly inbetween perl and CJam/Japt/MATL/etc.
Yeah, I noticed that. It's pretty good except for the lack of operators/functions.
04:46
and then Jelly once again took a shit on everything else. Well done @Dennis
Anonymous
05:22
Man I'm excited
Anonymous
Possibly graduating soon (for realsies!)
I've got 4 years left
... of highschool
ಠ_ಠ
 
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06:30
0
A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

LiamResidue Number System This is code-golf In the vein of large number challenges I thought this one might be interesting. In this challenge, we will be using the Residue Number System (RNS) to perform addition, subtraction, and multiplication on large integers. What is the RNS The RNS is one...

07:00
@ThomasKwa Sorry for the super late reply, but yeah that's fine. I haven't had the time to do it myself
@ZachGates Okay; I don't have time tonight. When do you plan on posting?
 
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08:31
heh
Who (or what) is Sp3000 that you thank on every answer? — CJ Dennis 6 hours ago
@Sp3000
0
Q: Reverse guess the number

ChatterOneThe idea is the same as the usual guess the number game, but roles are switched, you think of a number and the program will have to guess it. The rules: The number should be between 1 and 100 The program starts by printing a number, and it should be "smart", i.e. a typical binary search. You ty...

@Calvin'sHobbies Yeah, I saw and got a nice chuckle out of it :)
 
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10:16
1
Q: Cyclic prime number program generator

user2407038Challenge Your submission should consist of 2 or more programs each written in distinct languages. They can be arbitrarily numbered from 1 to k. Each program p, given a natural number n should print the next n prime numbers (initially, the next prime is the 0-th prime, 2) on a single line, fol...

10:30
>.>
git depends on perl-modules
NOOOO!
@VoteToClose Do you hate perl? ^^
Pretty sure most people in this room do.
haha, I think I can understand why :)
Ughghgh, I just tried to do a dist-upgrade and it broke all my dependencies. o-o Now I have to wipe and restart. sigh
@VoteToClose ... I feel bad for you ...
Actually, I'm struggling too, I have to feed a program some .csv (constructed on .xlsx + meta-datas), and sometimes it accept them, sometimes not...
10:45
If I got a dollar every time I f*cked up my linux installation, I wouldn't need to install linux myself anymore.
@mınxomaτ I've not fucked up one in the last year, I'm happy :D
grc
grc
@VoteToClose ironic, considering PPCG owes its very existence to Perl
if this site had started a few years earlier, it would be called Programming Puzzles & Perl Golf

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