The Nineteenth Byte

Alex A.

03:01

¯\_(do not let it concern you)_/¯

ETHproductions

You know you wait for rawgit a lot when the first thing that pops up in your browser's address bar after typing "int" is rawgit.com/path/to/your/interpreter. :P

Alex A.

you are y( ͡o ͜ʖ ͡u)r own knob

@ETHproductions XD

Doorknob

Anonymous

@AlexA. At first I was concerned for you but then I remembered you live in Seattle

Doorknob

@Doorknob Today's puzzle of the day on lichess was interesting

Alex A.

03:03

@Mego You were concerned it wasn't raining enough where I am?

Anonymous

@AlexA. Yeah because that's the only stereotype about Seattle

Maltysen

also microsoft

Eridan

Also Starbucks

Alex A.

@Mego As someone who's never lived outside of the Seattle area I don't actually know all that many Seattle stereotypes. I probably fit in well with a number of them.

Anonymous

Definitely nothing about certain pharmaceuticals

Alex A.

03:04

Bothell has a lot of pharmaceuticals and biotech

I feel like you're suggesting something in particular and it's going over my head

Anonymous

And by pharmaceuticals I mean substances whose proposed legalization is a big social issue currently

Alex A.

Oh

That

Yes, that's legal in Washington. Passed by a fairly slim margin, IIRC. Like 53% maybe.

Anonymous

And hence the stereotype :P

Maltysen

@AlexA. have you taken advantage of its legality? ;P

Anonymous

The same stereotype is more often applied to Colorado

Alex A.

03:06

@Maltysen Haha nah

I was off a bit on the numbers

> Final election returns showed I-502 passing with 55.7% of 3,095,444 votes.

Anonymous

Specifically in Colorado, Rocky Mountain High has a completely new meaning

Alex A.

hahaha

Maltysen

lel

Anonymous

Actually considering John Denver, it's probably the same meaning

Alex A.

Someone on Area 51 proposed a Marijuana.SE. Last I saw it had one follower: the guy who proposed it. :P

420BlazeIt.SE

Maltysen

03:09

was that seriously the name?

Alex A.

No. I wish.

New Sandboxed Posts

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Write a Semiquine quine polyglot metagolf code-golf Suppose you have 2 languages, A and B. A string s is a semiquine in A and B if it satisfies the following conditions: s is a quine in language A. s is a polyglot in A and B. The output of running s as a B program is a different string s', wh...

Alex A.

@NewSandboxedPosts Gross, quines

Dennis

ಠ_ಠ

Alex A.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Doorknob

03:10

quines are yummy

Alex A.

¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯

Maltysen

do they taste like chicken?

Alex A.

> chinken

Anonymous

@AlexA. You're gonna love the next challenge idea I have, then :)

Roujo

¯\_༼ຈل͜ຈ༽_/¯

2

Maltysen

03:11

@AlexA. what are you talking about? >_>

Alex A.

@Mego Quine a quine quine while you quine another quine?

Roujo

What about equine quines?

Alex A.

@Maltysen I was dwelling on the past.

Golf You a Quine, Part 2: The Quinening

Maltysen

that reminds me, you really need to do electric vindaloo

Alex A.

I don't have a good idea for the actual challenge yet though :/

Anonymous

03:15

Quine you a golf for great good

Maltysen

@AlexA. how about finding the conductivity of various foods through some equations.

I'm not sure how that's actually be a challenge

Cyoce

Huh. I just realized I can overload ! and ? when directly preceded by a number literal (1-char or extended #num; form)

GamrCorps

Question: what is the best tool for writing a paper with latex? Something where I can make similar things to this.

Doorknob

Tool as in editor?

Or tool as in package?

GamrCorps

editor

Alex A.

03:23

TeXShop

Doorknob

vim

Alex A.

Oh no TeXShop is Mac only

TeXStudio

You're on Windows, right @GamrCorps?

GamrCorps

yeah

Doorknob

vim is cross-platform \o/

Alex A.

texstudio.org

GamrCorps

03:24

Ok thanks, to both of you, Ill check them out.

Doorknob

vim-latex.sourceforge.net

Alex A.

Don't use vim for LaTeX, that's silly

Doorknob

@Doorknob The vim plugin that I use

@AlexA. s/silly/an amazing and fantastic idea/

s/Don't u/U/

:P

Alex A.

ಠ_ಠ

Sp3000

TeXWorks

Anonymous

03:25

SageMathCloud

Alex A.

@Sp3000 Have you used TeXStudio? I like it better than TeXWorks.

@Mego I worked on Sage with the original author a bit in undergrad.

Sp3000

Just naming all I can think of off the top of my head

Eridan

@GamrCorps I use ShareLaTeX

And Overleaf, though IMO ShareLaTeX is better

Doorknob

I still recommend vim :P

Anonymous

@AlexA. I also worked on Sage in college, but not with the original author.

Alex A.

03:27

@Mego Like contributing to it?

New Sandboxed Posts

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Weekly Physics Golf #1: Net Gravitational Force code-golf math Introduction to the Series Every week I will be posting a physics challenge. My goal here is to design challenges that in the end, teach some people some physics. Overall, the challenges will be very basic with little information. A...

Anonymous

@AlexA. Yep. Mainly some stuff with numerical analysis of differential equations. I'm not sure if my work actually made it into Sage, though.

GamrCorps

^^ I just sandboxed this question, any suggestions? I am planning to post it on Monday.

Ninja'd by the bot

Alex A.

@Mego That's awesome! :D \o/

Doorknob

@GamrCorps did you finally figure out your equation ;)

Anonymous

03:30

@GamrCorps Let us use Planck units for great golf good :P

Alex A.

Sage is really cool

GamrCorps

@Doorknob Yes, thank the Lord. But that is for my other challenge, not this one.

Doorknob

oh

GamrCorps

@Mego Ill think about it, let me figure out what Planck units are first

Anonymous

G = 1 is a lot nicer and golfier than G = 6.67e-11

Alex A.

03:32

I like how @Dennis said nothing for hours, came in to post a disapproval face, then slinked back off into shadowy silence.

5

Anonymous

@GamrCorps Take your normal physics. Define c = h_bar = G = k_e = k_B = 1. Boom, Planck units, all the numbers are bigger but the equations are nicer to work with.

Anonymous

Planck units

In physics, Planck units are physical units of measurement defined exclusively in terms of five universal physical constants listed below, in such a manner that these five physical constants take on the numerical value of 1 when expressed in terms of these units. Planck units have profound significance for theoretical physics since they elegantly simplify several recurring algebraic expressions of physical law by nondimensionalization. They are particularly relevant in research on unified theories such as quantum gravity. == Overview == Originally proposed in 1899 by German physicist Max Planck...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

chat-poll: most superiour non-golfing language. Go.

GamrCorps

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Java

Anonymous

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Python. Any heretics will be forcibly reeducated.

Alex A.

03:33

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Julia

Or R

Eridan

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Brainfuck

Anyone who disagrees can (Brain)fuck off

Doorknob

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Why do you think Go is a superior language?

:P

Anonymous

prepares the soft blankets and fluffy pillows for the Python Inquisition

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Thanks, I really just needed a five-tone metronome.

GamrCorps

@Mego Ok, Ill let you have your Planck units.

Anonymous

03:34

@GamrCorps Yay! \o/ They make physics soooo much simpler by not needing to drag around seemingly-arbitrary constants.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

R > Julia > Brainfuck > Python > Java, imo.

GamrCorps

@Mego One will be the *magnitude* of the net force in *your desired unit system (Newtonian, Planck, etc.)* sound good?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Not sure 'bout the last two.

Eridan

Java loses, as usual

Alex A.

Julia > R > Python > Java > Brainfuck

Anonymous

03:35

Also @GamrCorps what was the equation you were having issues with?

Lynn

I haven’t used R/Julia much

Doorknob

Python > Java > Brainfuck, not experienced enough with Julia/R to rank them

Lynn

What’s all the fuss about?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

2 mins ago, by Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

chat-poll: most superiour non-golfing language. Go.

Doorknob

Of course, Rust > Python > Java > BF

Zach Gates

03:35

Python

Anonymous

@GamrCorps Try One will be the *magnitude* of the net force, using your desired unit system (SI, Planck units, Imperial units, etc.)

Lynn

Oh, I got that bit. But like, I don’t really “get” scientific languages. Never had a use for ’em

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Alright, well, gotta go.

PEACE OUT

GamrCorps

@Mego I figured it out, but it was the speed of a sound wave in terms of medium density.

Alex A.

I only get scientific languages.

Zach Gates

03:36

@feersum: If I can clear anything up, I'm more than happy to.

Zizouz212

Python > Swift > Java > All "sane" languages > All "insane" and "short" languages

GamrCorps

@Mego thanks!

Alex A.

May 20 '15 at 0:10, by Alex A.

@sirpercival I disagree; I think science is best science the programming.

feersum

@ZachGates OK

Lynn

Recently I’ve been partial toooooo... F#.

Alex A.

03:37

WAI

feersum

It's not a very restrictive restriction that the vertex has the maximum z value among the points.

Lynn

.NET is so neat. ML is also so neat.

Alex A.

It's like barfy Microsoft Haskell

Anonymous

In SI units, it's Newtons. In Planck units, it's Planck forces or LM/T^2. In imperial units, it's pounds.

feersum

I believe there are still 9 DOFs that way.

Alex A.

03:37

@Lynn .NET is neat? o_O

Anonymous

(L, M, and T are Planck length, Planck mass, and Planck time, respectively)

mınxomaτ

@AlexA. Yes.

Alex A.

@mınxomaτ No.

Anonymous

@AlexA. CLI is neat.

Zach Gates

@feersum I had to restrict it to one direction. Otherwise you would need 3 points to determine the others.

Alex A.

03:38

@Mego You're neat.

#sickburn

#warmembrace

feersum

@ZachGates You need to tell us what this restriction is.

Lynn

.NET is a pretty good platform! CLI is very neat.

feersum

I've heard F# is almost exactly like OCaml, which I've learned a bit

Anonymous

@AlexA. (ง ◕ั⌑◕ั)ว ⁾

Zach Gates

@feersum There is only one way to find another point on the parabola: mirroring the first across the vertex. Since the parabola can only continue downwards along the Z axis, it can only be mirrored in one direction (across the XY plane).

feersum

03:39

Maybe I should use F# instead because OCaml's Windows support is terrible

Alex A.

@Mego Case in point

Anonymous

@AlexA. (ノ*゜▽゜*)

Zach Gates

> You may assume that the parabola will always be vertical (continuing downwards).

Alex A.

@feersum Or you could swap Windows for a better platform on which to run your language of choice

Lynn

@feersum You should give it a try. The language is actually pretty simple, and it grew on me very fast!

feersum

03:40

@ZachGates This sentence still means nothing to me.

Alex A.

@Lynn It's a decent platform if you only care about Windows. :P

Lynn

Hey, well, Mono exists.

Calvin's Hobbies

My challenge may have been better if I had allowed leading zeroes and trailing dots and stuff. Hmm, oh well

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Oh, and if anyone can decipher the following and tell me the intended response, I will give them a cookie. «iΰ¬ΰΎΰΏΰ°ͺ₯₯΄»ί

Lynn

For many programs I write, I do only care about Windows, though. :X

2

Alex A.

03:42

@Calvin'sHobbies Posted 2 minutes ago, you still have time to change it ;)

feersum

@ZachGates Also, your picture does not corresponding with the only possible unambigous interpretation of reflecting over a point.

Alex A.

@Lynn ಠ_ಠ

Eridan

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ 0.0 Try it online!

Zach Gates

@feersum If you get rid of the Y axis completely (leaving an XZ plane), the parabola is oriented so that it opens downward (as shown in the 2D graphs).

Calvin's Hobbies

@AlexA. ehh

feersum

03:43

@ZachGates Your question makes no mention of the xz plane. You have to write these things down; I can't read your mind.

Alex A.

@Calvin'sHobbies ehh

Calvin's Hobbies

People will upvote anything

Alex A.

hahaha

Anything you post, at least

New Main Posts

0

Q: All the numbers that fit in a string

Write a program or function that takes in a positive integer N. Output a list of all the distinct decimal numbers that can be written in exactly N characters using digits (0123456789), decimal points (.), and negative signs (-). For example, some numbers that would be in the N = 4 output list ar...

Alex A.

@NewMainPosts -1 for restrictive output format

Eridan

03:44

@NewMainPosts -1 because Calvin thinks people blindly upvote things :P

Lynn

+1 because I need that gold badge. /s

Zach Gates

@feersum Created a room so we can discuss this.

Anonymous

@AlexA. What are you talking about? The output format is pretty loose.

Alex A.

@Mego It was yolk

quartata

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ } will close a function right

Alex A.

03:46

@Doorknob Time for you to FGITW some Pyth

@quartata Yes

Doorknob

Yeah I'm waiting for a response to my comment

quartata

@AlexA. ...in Jolf

Doorknob

Also preventing output of - is surprisingly annoying

Alex A.

@quartata I don't know

Geobits

> The exception to the two last rules is zero itself, which should always be written as plain 0.

Doorknob

03:48

But is negative zero == zero?

Anonymous

0 < 0 == False, so 0 should not have a negative sign. Therefore -0 is invalid.

Geobits

-0==0 processing... processing... true

Anonymous

The only time -0 != 0 is when you're using a signed one's complement representation, and then you have multiple problems.

Alex A.

@Doorknob Not in JavaScript

:P:P:P:P

Geobits

Everything is == to 0 in javascript :P

Calvin's Hobbies

03:50

@AlexA. I'm just worried that people will simply loop over all floats in the range and include the ones of the right length. That might require a bit of finagling but would require more if leading zeroes were allowed

Alex A.

4 mins ago, by Alex A.

@Mego It was yolk

quartata

I love eggs

Anonymous

@AlexA. I prefer albumen thanks

Alex A.

@quartata Gross

Geobits

Sounds racist >_>

Alex A.

03:51

Does it?

I don't know what "albumen" are.

Geobits

If you only like the whites, then yes :D

New Meta Posts

0

Q: Can we have a different Put On Hold message?

put on hold as unclear what you're asking by Xxx, Yyy, Zzz 1 hour ago Please clarify your specific problem or add additional details to highlight exactly what you need. As it's currently written, it’s hard to tell exactly what you're asking. See the How to Ask page for help clarifying thi...

discussion

Alex A.

@Geobits ._.

Anonymous

@AlexA. Albumen is egg whites, aka the not-yolk stuff

El'endia Starman

@GamrCorps I use TexMaker.

Alex A.

03:53

1 min ago, by Alex A.

@quartata Gross

Anonymous

How does Seriously still not have combinations/permutations? I swear I implemented those like a month ago...

Alex A.

Seriously it doesn't?

>_>

Geobits

That joke is seriously getting old.

Anonymous

I think I committed the changes on another machine and forgot to push them >_>

Geobits

<_<

Alex A.

03:55

>_>

Anonymous

shots seriously fired

Geobits

seriously got hit by one

Alex A.

I seriously don't think the joke was at any point new or funny

seriously dies

GamrCorps

seriously, another seriously fight?

Cyoce

Does anyone know of a good JS base-conversion library? I need to use bases above 36

Geobits

03:57

I think there are several for 64 specifically, or do you want something general?

quartata

This is the Humor Police. We have detected abnormally high levels of shitty Seriously puns in this chat room. Please stop this despicable behavior.

Cyoce

@Geobits specifically I'll be using base-64 and base-60

Geobits

@quartata Geez. Humor Police take things waaaaay too seriously.

4

quartata

There's no us in humor.

Alex A.

Oh shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

Eridan

03:58

@quartata You don't like us being humorus

GamrCorps

but there is a u in humour, two actually, so its twice as funny.

Cyoce

@Cyoce does it work?

Transcript for