The Nineteenth Byte

Dennis

22:00

@MartinBüttner That should be easy enough to implement. I just have to go through the languages to search for debugging features...

Neil

@ETHproductions thanks for spotting those spare brackets

Martin Büttner

@Dennis for my languages it's just a matter of using -d

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Q: Calculate the day number of the year

Seems like we do not have this one yet, so here we go: The Challenge Write a program or function that takes a date as input and outputs the day number of the year. You may not use any builtins for that! Rules As usual you may write a full program or a function. The format of the input is up ...

Alex A.

Today I rep capped and passed both grc and aditsu in rep. :O

quartata

@AlexA. whoa

Alex A.

22:13

Right?

It's crazy

Doorknob

@mınxomaτ Once everyone's confirmed. Still waiting for a few more people, I think.

One of whom is @AlexA. :P

Alex A.

Huh?

What?

Doorknob

@AlexA. ~2:00-2:30 UTC is okay for around when we should start the Discord thingies?

Alex A.

@Seadrus No? I don't know, which post are you talking about?

@Doorknob Sure

Doorknob

@Sherlock9 That's just the proposed start time. You can always join later if you want. :P

I think that's everyone, actually

Alex A.

22:18

o.c

Doorknob

I guess I can set up the event now then

mınxomaτ

0200 is awfully late. Let's see if I can make it. It's now 2200...

Anonymous

Given that I can't really hear or speak right now (yay being sick), I'll have to pass on Discord

quartata

I should probably modify Rotor to use @CompileStatic so it isn't so slow

Doorknob

@mınxomaτ 2 AM was in your range on the survey. Is that not ideal for you? Would it be better if we started earlier?

quartata

22:20

Normally though it isn't noticeable but I guess TIO isn't as beefy as my hydra :P

Doorknob

@Mego :( Hope you get better soon!

mınxomaτ

A shot in the blue: Anyone here ever needed to pass a byte array pointer to VB? I can read simple integer etc. values by ptr, but once I try to access an array, all hell breaks loose.

quartata

@Mego I myself caught a sinus infection a week or so ago

Anonymous

@Doorknob I just got back from a doctor. He ~~shot me~~ gave me a steroid shot and prescribed me ~~drugs~~ lovely medicine, so I should be feeling better soon.

mınxomaτ

@Doorknob Well it was the far end ('bearly awake') of my range. If it's possible to start earlier, that'd be better.

quartata

22:22

Luckily I have an IMMUNE SYSTEM OF STEEL

Hey check it out Blender SE got their design today.

Alex A.

Blender

Doorknob

@mınxomaτ I could probably set the event at 1, but it's just that there might not be very many people at the time (several people started their ranges at 3-4 AM). That sound good?

mınxomaτ

@quartata For a second I thought of kitchen blenders ...

trichoplax

Shiny. Almost too shiny

mınxomaτ

@Doorknob Sure.

Doorknob

22:25

@quartata It's a bit weird seeing "Stack Exchange" in the logo.

But I guess it has to be there.

mınxomaτ

Well, yesterday at 0030, there were around 3-5 people online shrug

Dennis

4

mınxomaτ

"What is this, a bear for ants?!"

quartata

@Dennis I can bearly tolerate these bear puns

Doorknob

@mınxomaτ Oh, okay. 1 seems like a good compromise, then (there's nothing stopping people from joining earlier, anyway; the chat event is just so that more people join around the same time).

mınxomaτ

22:28

@Doorknob Why not just settle on a voice chat service and pin a msg saying something like "Join the voice chat here".

quartata

@mınxomaτ example.com is my favorite voice chat service

mınxomaτ

ikr

Doorknob

@mınxomaτ Because then nobody shows up at the same time, and it's usually just 2 people talking. :P

I think we've all agreed on Discord though

mınxomaτ

@Doorknob Like the event will be different. :D

Doorknob

@mınxomaτ Haha, hoping for the best...

Alex A.

22:29

Datcord, discord. All da cords.

Doorknob

I still have no idea what the chat event feature does, since I've never used it

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I think it pops up a banner thing for anyone who's in the chatroom or something

trichoplax

@Doorknob That works so well out of context...

mınxomaτ

I mean basically everyone resided to text chatting in Discord. I think my idea + a voice only service would lead to an optimal "causally join and leave the tab in the background" behavior.

Alex A.

@trichoplax haha true

Doorknob

@trichoplax The capitalization somewhat ruins it :P

trichoplax

22:30

yeah...

Alex A.

Skype > Discord

mınxomaτ

Teamspeak > Skype > Discord.

Doorknob

@mınxomaτ Or we could just kick anyone who talks in the chat. :P

@AlexA. Why?

quartata

Mumble > Teamspeak

mınxomaτ

@Doorknob That's a pretty ambiguous statement.

trichoplax

22:31

@quartata You broke the string ordering joke :(

Alex A.

@Doorknob Because everyone just text chats and the permissions are super weird.

@quartata I can't believe you've done this

Doorknob

@AlexA. First part can be fixed. Second part can be blamed on @Sherlock9 :D

Alex A.

The first part can't really be fixed though. But I definitely blame Sherlock for the second part. :P

Doorknob

@AlexA. can't really be fixed? Why not?

I think the way to remedy that is just to make more mouth noises

Alex A.

People will text chat. They just do. Like @quartata who joined but refused to speak.

mınxomaτ

22:33

@Doorknob Try joining here: app.vylo.org/rooms/put-room-name-here

Doorknob

@AlexA. Skype has text chat too...

mınxomaτ

That's voice only

Alex A.

Yeah but it sucks

quartata

@AlexA. Too lazy to get mic the first time, too lazy to join ever again

Alex A.

Discord has nice text chat

Doorknob

22:34

> put room name here

quartata

I was under the impression that Discord was dead anyways

Alex A.

@quartata :(

mınxomaτ

@Doorknob Yeah, I am pretty creative.

Alex A.

@quartata You mean the project itself or PPCG's participation in it?

quartata

PPCG's participation in it

Alex A.

22:34

Oh, okay. Idk.

mınxomaτ

With "join" I meant "join and speak words".

Doorknob

What was the reasoning for switching to Discord again? I remember everyone being really glad about it but not why...

@mınxomaτ Oh okay let me (try to) find my headphones

Alex A.

@Doorknob FWIW I didn't want to switch. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

mınxomaτ

I like Vylo, cause the text chat sucks so much no one uses it and it eats up less RAM than Skype or Discord (ew) :)

Alex A.

It was probably something about how if whomever starts a Skype call needs to leave, the call has to be restarted by someone else.

(I think)

Anonymous

22:37

@Doorknob Because Skype was a steaming pile of shit when it came to large voice chats

mınxomaτ

@AlexA. Yeah and my phone ringing at ungodly times.

Doorknob

@mınxomaτ Okay I found my headphones are you on the Vylo thing

Alex A.

@mınxomaτ That's why you put your phone on silent ;)

mınxomaτ

Yeah.

@AlexA. It was.

That's the problem.

Alex A.

Oh

huh

Doorknob

22:38

@mınxomaτ I can't hear anything

Alex A.

My browser isn't supported by Vylo.

mınxomaτ

@Doorknob Say words. I'm muted atm

Anonymous

@mınxomaτ Faraday cage? Exorcism? Ghostbusters?

Doorknob

@mınxomaτ I said "words"

mınxomaτ

@Doorknob Shit. Doesn't work.

Doorknob

22:38

-_-

Alex A.

Words never work.

Violence is the answer.

mınxomaτ

Siolence.

@Doorknob OK, try this

Doorknob

@Calvin'sHobbies We should decide when we want to make the Time Capsule String challenge. Feb. 1? 2017? Something else?

@mınxomaτ Spaces in URLs? ಠ_ಠ

I said "more words"

mınxomaτ

God dammit

Anonymous

My favorite explanation for how a Faraday cage works came from my physics professor: "If you stick your phone in a microwave, it won't get any signal until you take it out. If you turn the microwave on, it will never get signal again."

Alex A.

22:43

._.

mınxomaτ

@Doorknob Last try: voicechatapi.com/p1mjti041/?share

Doorknob

I said "words words words"

Calvin's Hobbies

@Doorknob How about Jan 1, 2017? Easier to remember, and I don't think its a big deal if it isn't closed for exactly a year

mınxomaτ

I think your mic doesn't work tbh @Doorknob

Doorknob

@Calvin'sHobbies Sounds good

@mınxomaτ .-. Try Discord?

mınxomaτ

22:44

Link?

Doorknob

discordapp.com/channels/133419285409169408/133419285409169408

mınxomaτ

-.- ... it works.

Doorknob

Uhhhhh.

I have Discord open in Firefox

maybe that makes the difference

mınxomaτ

Maybe

Alex A.

@mınxomaτ I heard someone make a noise on this

mınxomaτ

22:46

@AlexA. Probably me.

@AlexA. Safari?

TWO PEOPLE TALKING IN DISCORD. World premiere.

Doorknob

:O

I remember the first day when it was like five

Alex A.

@mınxomaτ Hai

mınxomaτ

I'll just pin the tab.

Alex A.

@Doorknob I was there and you guys made me use push to talk so I stopped talking

Doorknob

haha

Maybe this is one of those things where Discord is theoretically better but Skype is better in practice

Alex A.

22:49

That's the impression I get

mınxomaτ

@Doorknob You have a huge delay between you starting to talk and the mic actually going on air. Half of your first words are always cut ...

Doorknob

:/

mınxomaτ

Get a better mic.

Alex A.

I blame Discord

Doorknob

I'm using the built-in one on my laptop :P

mınxomaτ

22:50

Sounds like you're living in a tin can :D

Alex A.

He's a metal knob, what do you expect

mınxomaτ

@Roujo Has the best mic yet.

Roujo

@mınxomaτ modmic.com/products/modmic-4-0 ^^

At least, I think it's that one

It's a Modmic, but I can't remember if it's omni- or mono-directional

mınxomaτ

Enough with this experiment. I just opened an open-ended skype call. Join when you feel like it.

Alex A.

> PHP is a hose, you usually plug one end into a car exhaust, and the other you stick in through a window and then you sit in the car and turn the engine on.

good lord

Anonymous

22:56

10/10

Doorknob

... so, are we going to go with Skype or Discord?

Alex A.

0/10 would not discord again

7 mins ago, by mınxomaτ

Enough with this experiment. I just opened an open-ended skype call. Join when you feel like it.

Thomas Kwa

Just fixed a bug I've been working on for 10 minutes: June has 30 days

Alex A.

Hahaha

Cyoce

$v{5Vg>d}seQ
p{1$G-d}se-$G_c.

^ fastest fibonacci. Runs in an average of 7ms on an input of 1474

Alex A.

23:07

Dam Son

Cyoce

# [Detour](https://rawgit.com/cyoce/detour/master/interp.html), 30 bytes

$v{5Vg>d}seQ
p{1$G-d}se-$G_c.

[Try it online!](https://rawgit.com/cyoce/detour/master/interp.html?hex=JHZ7NVZnPmR9c2VRCiBwezEkRy1kfXNlLSRHX2Mu)

(that's 7ms with turbo mode)

Doorknob

Ok whatever

On various voice chat services

Alex A.

@mınxomaτ ^

mınxomaτ

Oh I hate COM. If you return a Byte array, it will magically be converted to a hexadecimal String(!!!) along the way...

Return from server: [255, 43, 44, 45], client receives: 0xFF2B2C2D...

El'endia Starman

One goal for PyAcidic: operations on types make sense.

Cyoce

23:13

"operations on types" ?

is this operating on something's type, or operating on the types themselves?

El'endia Starman

I.e., adding or multiplying strings, lists, numbers, etc...

Alex A.

What it PyAcidic?

El'endia Starman

The next language I'll eventually make.

Alex A.

:O

Doorknob

Esolang or actual language?

Alex A.

23:15

^

El'endia Starman

....both?

Alex A.

:O

El'endia Starman

I'd like to actually use it, but it'll probably start out as an esolang...

Cyoce

I have a coder friend who apparently doesn't know what esolangs are

Me: "So I'm making an esoteric language"
Him: "What's that? Do you mean scripting language?"
Me: ಠ_ಠ

Alex A.

lel

The time between rep capping and UTC midnight is oddly unsettling.

mınxomaτ

23:21

@Cyoce "You mean like JavaScript?"

GamrCorps

23:32

Its awfully hard writing a programming language tokenizer/interpreter without taking a compiler theory class...

Kevin W.

@GamrCorps if you're making a tokenizer, are you using lex or some other such tool?

those make it pretty easy

mınxomaτ

@GamrCorps Not really (from my experience).

Dennis

@GamrCorps Tell me about it.

GamrCorps

Holy crap when did all of you show up

Alex A.

?

mınxomaτ

23:34

But there's a good chance it'll end up like

I honestly didn't think you could even USE emoji in variable names. Or that there were so many different crying ones.

GamrCorps

So I am making a "Begginer's programming language" for my engineering class and I am almost done with the tokenizer. I am going to start on the lex tonight. Its gonna have python-like (python 2.7-like) syntax and the goal is to make it as simple and easy to understand as possible to new programmers

mınxomaτ

@GamrCorps I made this from scratch. It's not that pretty, but it works shrug :)

GamrCorps

@mınxomaτ thats really cool

Actually, now that I think about it, the syntax is moreso like LUA than Python

El'endia Starman

@GamrCorps I watched a conference talk some time ago about research into what sort of wording works best in programming languages.

Kevin W.

the only interpreter I made outside of a compilers class was for a funge-like language, so a tokenizer is just exploding the strings

mınxomaτ

23:39

@El'endiaStarman I linked you to that I think. "Evidence driven programming" afaik.

El'endia Starman

@mınxomaτ yep

GamrCorps

lol

El'endia Starman

I think it'd be good to watch.

mınxomaτ

@El'endiaStarman On 1.5x speed :D

Cyoce

23:53

GOD SAVE US

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

XD

I have 3395 lines in my file :P

Alex A.

@Cyoce status-metal

Cyoce

FUCK

3

I missed when my code hit 360 lines

and 420 lines

I can still make 1337 though

mınxomaτ

Or 2038.

Alex A.

Surely you could golf 666 down to 420.

Take the metal back to reggae.

mınxomaτ

23:57

420 golf it

Alex A.

haha

There's an Area 51 proposal for a marijuana-themed Stack Exchange site. Last I saw, it had one follower: the guy who proposed it.

Cyoce

luckily I was able to capture this one:

On various voice chat services

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