The Nineteenth Byte

Anonymous

00:00

I'm interested in hearing feedback on how else it could be improved before reopening

quartata

tfw accidentally close tab with query

El'endia Starman

I'm not sure there's much value in requiring same-user submissions be more than an hour apart.

xnor

@Mego i don't think this change helps anything

the last person to post can get the highest score

quartata

Err... should queries normally take this long? I mean, I know there's a lot of answers and all.

Anonymous

@xnor How do you figure?

quartata

00:02

But it's been... a while.

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Q: ASCII clock with dot & comma time markers

This is my first time here :) There were many CG with clock, but I hope this one is not a duplicate. Input Current time represented as intminutes since midnight. Expected results Imagine that line of chars is in fact two rows. Upper row - dots - represents hours (24 hour system), while low...

El'endia Starman

@quartata No, usually queries take seconds at most.

quartata

@El'endiaStarman Hrmph

xnor

@Mego I'm still imagining there to be a ridiculous number of languages that can output a number literal

maybe it would turn into a contest of finding more and more obscure ones

quartata

SELECT * FROM Posts WHERE Body LIKE '<h%byte%';

Any idea why this would take so long?

xnor

00:04

@Mego more generally, if some languages output 52 in 2 bytes, then by the time it gets to 62, it will be really easy to output that in 11 bytes and beat it

it reminds me of the silly "be the last to post" forum game

El'endia Starman

@quartata Perhaps returning all of the answers...

Try doing a COUNT.

Anonymous

SELECT COUNT(*) FROM Posts WHERE Body LIKE '<h%byte%' OR Body LIKE '<h%char%';

quartata

Oh, no wonder.

This is all the answers that HAVE that.

I want the opposite...

I'm stupid.

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Anonymous

@xnor I don't see why that's such an issue. It incentivizes people to continue to post answers.

quartata

38578? That still seems high....

Anonymous

00:07

SELECT COUNT(*) FROM Posts WHERE Body NOT LIKE '<h%byte%' AND Body NOT LIKE '<h%char%';

El'endia Starman

Well, the format we have now was certainly not around from the beginning.

quartata

@Mego Yeah, that's what I'm using.

44878

There's only 48985 posts on PPCG so I don't understand what's happening

And now I just did that query again and only got 23913

SELECT COUNT(*) FROM Posts WHERE Body NOT LIKE '<h%byte%' AND Body NOT LIKE '<h%char%' AND PostTypeId = 2;

Gives me 19393

Can't be right.

Maybe it isn't in HTML.

Martin Büttner

@NewMainPosts that was really great actually :)

quartata

SELECT * FROM Posts WHERE Id=67447;

returns nothing

This is when I know I'm getting trolled.

El'endia Starman

Perhaps part of the issue is that Posts doesn't just refer to questions and answers.

Martin Büttner

00:22

fan-hat-ics for everyone!

El'endia Starman

yayyy

I'm only a few days from the Fanatic badge on PPCG...

Martin Büttner

I had to break my >400 day streak this summer... I stopped bothering then :D

quartata

@El'endiaStarman Me too.

I'll get it on Christmas

SuperJedi224

@El'endiaStarman I have 26 days to go :(

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Q: Help Trump build the wall!

Trump needs the wall constructed and you are going to do it! To most efficiently build my wall I have created a simple, repeatable pattern for you to use: __ __ | |_| | ___| |___ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ——————————————— I will tell you how many wa...

code-golf ascii-art kolmogorov-complexity

Martin Büttner

00:26

@SuperJedi224 I have 26 to go on computer graphics.

quartata

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A: "Hello, World!"

Linux - shell 85 This work on all GNU/Linux distribution I've tried (Debian, Ubuntu, Centos, Fedora) zgrep vivs /usr/sh*/man/*/dhcp-o*s.5.gz|sed 'yywyWy;s/ /, /g;s/^.*"$.*$".*$/\1/p;d'

what is this

SuperJedi224

Very likely not golfed

quartata

It's the weirdest thing I have ever seen

Doorknob 冰

@quartata not a "duplicate answer," that's for sure

quartata

@Doorknob冰 But we already have a shell answer

Either way it's something weird. I really don't understand it

Doorknob 冰

00:30

@quartata So?

quartata

So generally on these catalogs we shouldn't have longer answers in already done languages

Especially ones that seem to do very strange things

Doorknob 冰

Oh, it's a catalog

quartata

Yeah. It's Hello, World!

Doorknob 冰

Well, /usr/sh*/man/*/dhcp-o*s.5.gz expands to /usr/share/man/man5/dhcp-options.5.gz

Anonymous

@quartata The only differences between a catalog Q and a regular Q are that no answer is accepted, and any language can be used (so long as it meets our requirements)

Doorknob 冰

00:32

And then,

llama@llama:~$ zgrep vivs /usr/share/man/man5/dhcp-options.5.gz
.B option \fBvivso\fR \fIstring\fR\fB;\fR
The \fBvivso\fR option can contain multiple separate options, one for
option vivso
option vendor.ISC code 2495 = encapsulate vivso-sample;
option vivso-sample.sample "Hello world!";

I'm assuming the sed magic extracts that Hello world! string

quartata

So it does the wrong spelling.

Anonymous

^ that is an issue

Doorknob 冰

No

quartata

Either way I'm scared to run it

Doorknob 冰

It changes it to the right spelling

quartata

00:33

It does?

...

OK I'll give him this

Doorknob 冰

Look at the sed command

ex. s/ /, /

quartata

It's the strangest Hello World I've ever seen

Doorknob 冰

It does all the necessary changes

I ran it, and it works, and this is actually amazing

quartata

.-.

OK I feel bad for downvoting

What should we do with it?

Adnan

There is an obfuscated Hello, World challenge

Maybe it's good for that challenge

quartata

00:43

Can mods move answers?

Martin Büttner

I think this may just have been my favourite golf this month:

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A: ASCII clock with dot & comma time markers

CJam, 22 20 19 bytes Takes input from STDIN: ri60md]',`.*:.{;K+} Test it here. Explanation ri e# Read input and convert to integer. 60md e# Divmod 60, pushes hours H and minutes M on the stack. ] e# Wrap in an array. ',` e# Push the string representation of the comma character...

@quartata no, only devs can

mods can only merge questions entirely.

SuperJedi224

01:10

Where is everyone?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Here

www.comicsanscriminal.com

Adnan

01:26

lol

I don't really hate Comic Sans, I only wished it never existed

El'endia Starman

Due to a minor glitch, 'discharge patient' does not cause the algorithm to exit, but instead leads back to 'hunt down and capture patient'.

WAT. D: D:

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Adnan

lol wat

BlockCoder1392

hi

Adnan

hello

SuperJedi224

Hello

quintopia

01:40

Hello

El'endia Starman

Hello

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Hello

Adnan

Hello

RikerW

Hi.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

isaacg

01:45

bye.

Adnan

lol u mad?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

No, what makes you think that?

@isaacg bye

isaacg

Hi again

Adnan

Hi

El'endia Starman

Hi

Adnan

01:49

I proudly present to you:

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A: "Hello, World!"

05AB1E, 14 bytes I proudly present to you, 05AB1E "Hello, World! This looks a lot like Pyth, however, this is some kind of bug(?). I'll just keep it in, until it causes some real problems :).

quartata

TIL Grace Note (SE community manager) plays NetHack

Don't tell Doorknob

@Adnan That sounds like hating it..

Adnan

@quartata Yeah I do haha

quartata

...

Adnan

Mostly because it's overused

quartata

You hurt his feelings

You're gonna have a bad time

Adnan

01:53

:(

BlockCoder1392

hello

Adnan

hello

BlockCoder1392

"hello" is dominating te starboard

quintopia

I love this: drawception.com/viewgame/N5WmGrDDA3/…

quartata

Real talk here: stop starring random shit please

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Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

01:55

okay

quartata

It has lost all humor value. Sorry :/

Adnan

lol u mad

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

the deed is done

quartata

@Adnan fite me

BlockCoder1392

WAT.

DAT SPELIN

quartata

01:57

?

Adnan

u wot m8

quartata

Nah dawg that be how we spell in da hood yo

Spelling gud

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quartata *in the onion game-of-life hood

BlockCoder1392

Krts type blinfgolfrf

(Lets type blindfolded)

Adnan

BlockCoder1392

01:59

Lol that substring "golf"

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

XD

Adnan

I had a solution for the Catalan challenge

but I lost it

Alex A.

@quartata Why shouldn't we tell @Doorknob冰 that Grace Note plays his all-time favorite game?

BlockCoder1392

<automated response> What?

(turning my bot off)

quartata

Relevant

Rip good flag streak

Alex A.

02:03

@quartata That is not an appropriate reaction to having a declined flag

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quartata

@AlexA. Because then he'll go crazy and start spamming her with nethack junk, which will result in her suspending Doorknob and nuking PPCG

@AlexA. What can I say I found it on the profile of someone on Meta SE

Alex A.

@RikerW Do you realize that since my username is not "Wrong" (and I have no intention of changing it to that), pings like this won't actually get to me?

On a similar note, Martin won't receive that ping because you put a space after the @.

@quartata I do not think this will happen. But just in case, let's find out.

Hey @Doorknob冰, Grace Note plays Nethack!

quartata

@AlexA. no it's too risky

Alex A.

Maybe I should be doing the opposite: Telling Grace Note that @Doorknob冰 plays Nethack.

BlockCoder1392

Lol.

Alex A.

02:07

I haven't even been trying to get hats how in the world do I have 14 of them

SuperJedi224

I've got 14 now as well

Doorknob 冰

@AlexA. I know

Alex A.

@Doorknob冰 @quartata HE KNOWS

quartata

@NewMainPosts The second Trump themed challenge.

I'm offensive and I find this Trump

@AlexA. oh noes

Rip PPCG

Alex A.

02:23

Oh nose

quartata

Nose

Anatomically, a nose is a protuberance in vertebrates that houses the nostrils, or nares, which admit and expel air for respiration in conjunction with the mouth. Behind the nose are the olfactory mucosa and the sinuses. Behind the nasal cavity, air next passes through the pharynx, shared with the digestive system, and then into the rest of the respiratory system. In humans, the nose is located centrally on the face and serves as an alternative respiratory passage especially during suckling for infants. On most other mammals, it is located on the upper tip of the snout. == Air conditioning == The...

Alex A.

@quartata Oh good, I wasn't sure what a nose is

quartata

By the way, does anyone here know how to suppress Perl's experimental feature messages?

Adnan

Alex A.

You can easily suppress the messages by not using experimental features. Even better: don't use Perl.

quartata

02:26

I can't remember and I am too lazy to read the manpage

Doorknob 冰

woohoo tied for 2nd in hats network-wide

Alex A.

@Doorknob冰 :O

Who is first?

Also nice work!

Doorknob 冰

Quill (duh)

quartata

^

Doorknob 冰

I am 1 hat behind

Alex A.

02:26

Why duh? I had no idea

How many hats does have?

Doorknob 冰

because he literally changed his username to "HAT MANIAC" :P

Alex A.

Well yeah but who cares about him? He's from Code Review.

Doorknob 冰

haha

Cyoce

CR Scrubs

2

Doorknob 冰

Anyway, I would have 007 but someone on Stack Overflow decided to ruin it by commenting on the question before the script to award me the hat was run

:P

Alex A.

02:28

>:O

Doorknob 冰

I am also somehow tied for 4th on Meta Stack Exchange without even trying

@AlexA. wat

Alex A.

@Doorknob冰 First Google Images result for cr scrubs

Doorknob 冰

... okay

I have 8 challenges fully written, ready to post. Watdo?

Alex A.

Postdo

Doorknob 冰

... all at once?

Alex A.

02:31

Yes

Be our Calvin

Since @Calvin'sHobbies isn't giving us 10 Q/day as promised.

Doorknob 冰

I should write two more and then singlehandedly graduate PPCG :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

esolangs.org/wiki/Hello%2B%2B%2B%2B

Alex A.

@Doorknob冰 Do that

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Doorknob冰 Don't! Wait until the first.

Doorknob 冰

More reasonably, I could use these 8 challenges as a "buffer" and then commit to posting 3-4 challenges a week or so

Alex A.

02:32

48 secs ago, by Alex A.

@Doorknob冰 Do that

Doorknob 冰

I wonder how long that could last

Alex A.

Forever

isaacg

I'm going to go write a question.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Do we have a challenge for iterated quines?

Alex A.

3 mins ago, by Alex A.

@Doorknob冰 Do that

quintopia

02:35

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Presumably several. not sure about polyglots though.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quintopia \o/ cool!

quintopia

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Q: Golf a mutual quine

Using two languages of your choice, write the smallest “mutual quine” you can. That is, write a program P in language A that outputs the source code for a program Q in language B, such that the output of program Q is identical to the source code for P. Empty files don't count, nor do "read the ...

code-golf code-challenge quine

that's for a cycle of two

i'm planning on posting one soon with a cycle of 12

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Cycle of N FTW

oh darn

I was looking for "highest N" :(

Alex A.

Am I the only one who thinks quines just aren't that interesting?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^

Adnan

02:40

^^

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Only interesting in a restricted source

Alex A.

Restricted source is the other tag I don't like :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Brainf*** quines are interesting. JavaScript ones are not.

isaacg

^^^

Doorknob 冰

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ... I'm not sure how you combine something uninteresting with something even more uninteresting and somehow manage to make it interesting

feersum

02:41

Finding a quine is interesting.

Quine-related challenges usually aren't.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Doorknob冰 Not restricted-source

Adnan

^^^^^^^^

feersum

They're usually trivial adaptations from the shortest quine.

Alex A.

Now there are so many carets I have no idea who's agreeing with what

quintopia

i think iterated quine challenges can be interesting

Doorknob 冰

02:42

@AlexA. and this is why SE chat needs up/downvotes

quintopia

or just use stars

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Doorknob冰 feature-request

Adnan

^^^^^

Doorknob 冰

@quintopia stars don't serve the same purpose

quintopia

also don't forget we had a challenge that turns a transcript into votes based on carets

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Iterated Quine Polyglot quine polyglot code-challenge http://esolangs.org/wiki/Iterating_quine For our purposes, an iterated quine polyglot is a series of prgorms P1, P2, ... PN made so that running program PK results in the source code of PK+1, for all 1 ≤ K < N. All programs must be a valid ...

quintopia

so pick any response to that and run it on the current chat if you get confused

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

> star this message as useful / interesting for the transcript

Alex A.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ lal as if that's what people use stars for in here :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AlexA. true

Doorknob 冰

@AlexA. An example of a message I would use the upvote button on

(but not star)

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isaacg

02:49

Anyone else get a ton of flags?

El'endia Starman

I only saw two chat flags just now.

isaacg

I got 8

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

brb

*bbl

FlagAsSpam

FanHATtic is mine.

Alex A.

@isaacg Well look at you, Mr. Flaggy Pants. :P

FlagAsSpam

02:54

Nah. It just means that I'm in the room.

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