The Nineteenth Byte

SuperJedi224

01:00

I mean is there a reason three people all just left at the same exact time?

Cyoce

@AlexA. why does it bother you that people are being redirected to PPCG? Are you afraid of receiving more CR scrubs?

Alex A.

@mınxomaτ Same for Dennis IIRC

mınxomaτ

@AlexA. Yeah, but Dennis lives pretty "remote". Paraguay (?) I think.

Alex A.

@Cyoce Not that people in general are directed here, it bothers me that people direct folks with homework assignments to us.

cat

@mınxomaτ I live in the United States but my internet connection is though my phone, which, in turn is prepaid & thus if I use too much, I get charged ;((((

Alex A.

01:01

@mınxomaτ Yes

Found in a job listing:

> Microsoft Internet Explorer experience

Wtf does that even mean

mınxomaτ

@AlexA. I know that because codegolf.xyz blocked some CJam requests from Dennis as Spam :D

Cyoce

@AlexA. I believe the phrasing was something like "Either it's a challenge or a homework assignment, and go to PPCG if it's a challenge"

Doorknob 冰

but it's clearly not

cat

@mınxomaτ it means that they're looking for someone who knows how to make modern JS work in Chrome AND IE6

mınxomaτ

@cat Wrong ping.

Cyoce

01:02

> (If this is merely a challenge, then stack-overflow is the wrong place. Checkout codegolf.stackexchange.com) If this is not a challenge for the community, is this per-chance a homework assignment?

cat

@mınxomaτ true

mınxomaτ

That sudden bold text startled me.

Cyoce

muhahahahhaa

mınxomaτ

#triggered

phase

@mınxomaτ you'll get epilepsy if you stay in here for more than 12 seconds

Cyoce

01:04

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phase

2...

Cyoce

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New Main Posts

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Q: Meshing Ring Networks

Some primitive network solutions, such as the MIDI Ring solution in MIDI Maze (the precursor to Faceball 2000) utilize something known as a ring network: each node has one input and one output, and the inputs and outputs are linked to create a ring. Now let's say that I have multiple ring networ...

phase

7....

Doorknob 冰

13 mins ago, by Doorknob 冰

21 seconds

Cyoce

01:04

42...

Doorknob 冰

(@AlexA.)

mınxomaτ

Lol, New Main Posts is the combobreaker.

4

Splendid timing as always

cat

me, right now: codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/24503/46231

"Just trying to create an array of integers for reference because I keep forgetting how integers look like."

@NewMainPosts THIS IS THE MIGRATED POST FROM SO.

Doorknob 冰

not migrated, reposted

cat

@Doorknob冰 :sigh:

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

01:06

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

phase

@cat I'm having trouble understand why ZR+! prints 42. Does it print the difference in the register address or something?

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ 2rand2me

cat

@phase Z is 25, R is 17, 25 17 + is 42; that's in the post

Cyoce

@phase ZrandRme

phase

> ZR+! prints 42, because 25 17 + 42 = is 1.

oh wait stacks forgot about those

cat

@phase postfix notation.

Cyoce

01:09

github.com/cyoce/PlatyPar/blob/master/…

phase

@cat urgicannomath

cat

@phase I think you misspelled the obviously superior syntax

@phase what even ?

quartata

Ah damn @Doorknob冰 beat me to reprimanding the clueless SO user

I wish people would stop doing that

cat

@Cyoce yes

Cyoce

which one this time?

phase

01:10

@quartata sniping is his passion

Cyoce

@cat ty ?

phase

you are so very welcome good sir

Thomas Kwa

If you haven't noticed, I just put 200 points up on my question.

20

Q: ¿xu ti te gismytermorna? (Is it a valid gismu?)

(Literally: "Does this follow/realize the gismu-form?") Premise The language Lojban is a constructed language, meaning in part that all of its words have been created rather than allowed to develop naturally. The semantic base of Lojban are its gismu, or root words, which were synthesized by co...

code-golf string word classification

cat

I'm designing a language; should concatenation of two arrays result in zipping them or mapping them to another operand?

Cyoce

explain

isaacg

01:15

It should result in concatenating them

Doorknob 冰

^

Cyoce

clap...

clap...

...clap

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/66091/31957

why was this deleted?

cat

{3 4 5 6} + {7 8 9} = {3 7 4 8 5 9} or if map, {3 4 5 6} + {7 8 9} = {21 32 45 ?}

Doorknob 冰

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ user was deleted, autonuked by Community

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

01:17

huh

Anonymous

@cat {3 4 5 6 7 8 9}

cat

in the case of a string, this is a simple answer
are you saying it should append?

Anonymous

Concatenation should be concatenation

cat

@Mego okay

Doorknob 冰

^^

Cyoce

01:18

wehrewhrewherwhrewhrew

OH MY GOD

isaacg

{3 4 5 6} + {7 8 9} = {3 4 5 6 7 8 9}

Cyoce

I BEAT PYTH

3

phase

@Cyoce pics or it didnt happen

El'endia Starman

@Cyoce Momentarily.

Cyoce

NO please no

cat

01:19

@Cyoce shh, don't tell @isaacg

isaacg

Hi

El'endia Starman

Or FryAmTheEggman.

Cyoce

Doorknob 冰

that's because I'm terrible at golfing in Pyth

Cyoce

ssshhhh

It doesn't matter

Anonymous

01:20

@Cyoce Still 1 byte behind Seriously :P

Doorknob 冰

doubtlessly it could be shortened in Pyth :P

Cyoce

I beat pyth

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Doorknob冰 Could you explain to me your QuickRandom algorithm? I'm not a Java person, and am trying to port it to JavaScript.

Cyoce

Mom get the camera!

cat

Whenever Mouse and CJam (eg, me and dennis) both answer a question, I'm always only 2 or 3 bytes behind and that makes me happy because Mouse is NOT designed for golfing

Doorknob 冰

01:21

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ it's bad don't do it

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

That's why I'm doing it.

Cyoce

XD

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Doorknob 冰

Take thingy, multiply thingy by seed, the decimal part of thingy (i.e. thingy - floor(thingy)) is your "random" number, rinse and repeat

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Lotsa bad random functions (first 2 are not.)

@Doorknob冰 o_o

cat

01:22

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ where do you get these? why do you have so many??

Doorknob 冰

Someone already made pretty pictures

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@cat I made them. For testing.

FOR SCIENCE.

3

@Doorknob冰 I know ^_^

cat

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ YOU MONSTER.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@cat Sacrifices had to be made.

El'endia Starman

@Doorknob冰 I actually really like the picture for QuickRandom. Reminds me of a cellular automaton.

cat

01:23

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Maybe we can put our differences behind us.

Cyoce

99 upvotes

should I be 100?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@cat ... fine.

Alex A.

I keep getting logged out of SE

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Cyoce do it.

El'endia Starman

I was upvote #99, I think. :P

cat

01:24

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ for science ?

phase

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ In the new date mod billion div billion, does that solid color mean they're all the same number or they're in the same range?

Cyoce

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@phase Same number ish. It's because it's all done at the same time.

El'endia Starman

yayyy

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@cat For science!

El'endia Starman

01:25

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ There's something problematic about using a number that doesn't change for randomness...

Alex A.

heh

phase

                                                                                                          y spaces

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@El'endiaStarman ^_^

phase

@AlexA. har har har har u funi buni

Doorknob 冰

@AlexA. That happened to me a lot before

no longer though

Cyoce

01:26

and my beating pyth is already off of the starboard

it's almost like a coverup is taking place...

Doorknob 冰

no it's not

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Cyoce THWAM. The evidence is gone.

El'endia Starman

@Cyoce No, this room is just active.

phase

@Doorknob冰 tell it like it is

Cyoce

...that's what they all say

Alex A.

01:27

@phase it

phase

@AlexA. no

u wrong

cat

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I can't wait to start testing!

Alex A.

fak

cat

> abandon all work, ye who enter here —aditsu

phase

fakeunounono

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

01:27

@cat o_O

Cyoce

[cyoce to it]: "Like it is"

phase

@El'endiaStarman no totally a cover up u government goonies

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

What I do when I forget what I am coding:

6

cat

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ chell get ur gun ;)

Alex A.

That's quite a function you got there, Conor.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

01:29

@AlexA. s/got/have

phase

@AlexA. That's quite a formatted sentence you got there, Alex.

cat

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ i just actually fell out of my chair laughing. I'm suing

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@cat I see what you did there XD

@cat :D

Alex A.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ No

I refuse

phase

@AlexA. oui

quartata

01:29

@phase Not as good as "Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo"

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AlexA. s/no/yes/i

phase

@quartata no orignal

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I seem to get more stars when I need to be studying for exams e_e

2

cat

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ me too!

Alex A.

The official font for writing DogeScript code should be Comic Sans.

phase

01:30

everyone too!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AlexA. ಠ_ಠ

phase

@AlexA. making Atom plugin asap

cat

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ my version of this is Keyboard Mash, then I post it to PPCG

Alex A.

@phase do it

phase

@AlexA. l8r

cat

01:31

@AlexA. LOLCODE, too

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@cat And somehow it's still valid Seriously.

Alex A.

@phase kbb

phase

bing.com/search?q=google

Cyoce

It is now on par (pun intended) with seriously

cat

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ <insert <2yr old lang here>

Pietu1998

01:32

@phase IIRC this is the most popular search on bing.

phase

Isn't stack[-1] an out of bounds exception?

cat

@phase or an IndexError

Pietu1998

Depends on the language.

cat

@phase Depending on the implementation

Pietu1998

In Python it's the last element

2

Cyoce

01:33

I got tired of typing stack[stack.length-1]

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@phase It should be the last element.

Ninja'd

cat

^

phase

python is cray cray

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

lotsa ninjas around here

cat

:O

Cyoce

01:34

o.O

cat

@phase Anything but.

Pietu1998

@cat Are we not starring random car(e|ro)ts anymore?

3

cat

@Pietu1998 I thought we were

Cyoce

Edited. HappY?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@phase Wait. You don't like JavaScript. OR Python. I'm starting to think that you only like languages in which the end result looks like a code bomb.

2

;)

o.c

cough cough

Cyoce

01:36

Object.defineProperty(Array.prototype, "last", {
   get (){
       return this[this.length-1];
   }
   set (v){
      this[this.length-1]=v;
   }
});

Pietu1998

^ valid perl

cat

@phase In Java I think you get ArrayOutOfBoundsExceptionor TypeException: cannot use signed <Int> where unsigned <Int> was expected

Pietu1998

@Pietu1998 posts the above after every code block in chat

phase

I would have done stack[:-1] because that shows that's it's the wrap around index or whatever

quartata

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Have you seen the code for O

cat

01:36

@phase That gets the whole array in Pyfon

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

quartata

I mean I know he wants to golf it and all

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quartata Yes.

Pietu1998

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Needs some kind of ES6/ES7

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Cyoce You forgot the ,

2

Cyoce

01:37

Oh I see

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Pietu1998 o_o that's firefox.

phase

JS? More arrows.

3

Cyoce

When I edit I can't read what I'm editing

phase

u borked ur computr bruh

Cyoce

cat

01:38

@phase Windows tends to do that

phase

@Cyoce I can read it fine ;-;

Cyoce

I'm sorry I have normal human vision

4

phase

@cat I happen to be on the most reliable version of Windows, XP

cat

@phase WHY

phase

@Cyoce why aliens are winning

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

01:39

@Cyoce By the way I totally forgot this was a thing. Thank you so much :D

Cyoce

Object.defineProperty ?

Pietu1998

@Cyoce developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/…

phase

why are italics white?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

No, get/set

Pietu1998

@phase No they're not as you can see here

cat

01:40

@phase they aren't

Cyoce

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ custom getters and setters are my life

That's why I can't stand python

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Cyoce :D hi-five

Pietu1998

@Cyoce You can do that in Python

cat

you have some junk CSS-malforming js in ur browser m8

phase

Cyoce

01:40

@Pietu1998 You can't do it for the default datatypes

phase

maybe Windows XP was a bad idea

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I used to use them a lot

cat

@Cyoce You can redefine a class' methods

@Cyoce Yes, you can

Cyoce

Well shit

Pietu1998

__getattr__ & __setattr__ are the thing I know about

Cyoce

01:41

Tell that to the people on SO when I asked the question

cat

LOL
Lemme see if I can find it

phase

shift
enter

cat

firstly, there's this

and this

Pietu1998

this is @Cyoce's question

Cyoce

clap...

Ahh cat

Here's the problem for the second one

That defines the property for your class

I want to define it for the builtin class list

cat

01:44

then use freakin' ruby

2

Cyoce

>@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ custom getters and setters are my life
**That's why I can't stand python**

Calvin's Hobbies

Woah, are we seriously thinking of raising the question rep amount? (meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/7683/…) @AlexA.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

o_o

Alex A.

@Calvin'sHobbies Yes. Where have you been?

Calvin's Hobbies

I've been out of it for a while and this is the first time I've heard

Cyoce

01:45

delayed-response

4

Alex A.

Calvin's is crying from happiness — Optimizer Dec 7 at 20:55

phase

Scripts? Python. OOP? Ruby. Verbose crap that kinda looks like code? Java.

@AlexA. Calvin is is crying

cat

@Cyoce but you can

Cyoce

then show me how

cat

@phase ruby = junk

phase

01:47

@cat then code crystal

Alex A.

@cat What don't you like about Ruby?

Cyoce

Ruby's awesome

phase

end is kinda gross but otherwise it's alright

Cyoce

yeeah

better than whitespace indentation though

cat

I'm not enough of a pyfon wizard, but i've seen it done before effectively
*why* do you want to do this in py?

Cyoce

01:48

because I'm lazy

Pietu1998

>>> ruby is junk
True
>>>

2

phase

straight up anything is better than whitespace indention

Cyoce

And I like control over everything

I like having my own methods

phase

my methods are always better than a standard library that has been in development for years

oh wait ofc naught

Calvin's Hobbies

@AlexA. Well, idk. I've always considered writing questions far easier and certainly less tedious than writing answers. So I'm not sure I agree with the idea.

Cyoce

01:50

The first thing I would do is make the mutator methods return the thing they're mutating

El'endia Starman

@Calvin'sHobbies You're kinda the exception.

cat

@AlexA. the syntax makes me want to barf (you say whitespace indentation is bad but ruby relies entirely on whitespace for things like if while def etc! there's no : syntax or similar and it annoys me.) Ruby is IMO a worse-than-py approach to oop. I could rant about it for a while, I think.

Cyoce

I hate how Python uses the abbreviated names for things

Alex A.

@Calvin'sHobbies I'm with El'endia. I think it's much more difficult for most people to write good questions than it is for you.

El'endia Starman

@Cyoce Abbreviated names?

phase

01:52

@AlexA. For humans, and not tigers, it's difficult.

Cyoce

str, int, list, dict

Calvin's Hobbies

@AlexA. But my rep would pretty much double. In an instant I would surpass Sp O.O

Cyoce

Stupid python, now that you've reserved those words, what am I going to call my strings?

cat

@Cyoce it's different, but it's more concise for the same meaning

isaacg

Cyoce: Beat Pyth, will You? 20 bytes says otherwise.

Alex A.

01:52

@cat Hm, okay. I don't know enough Ruby to have opinions on the things you mentioned.

Cyoce

@isaacg ...

There was a time when I had beaten pyth

El'endia Starman

@Calvin'sHobbies Rep cap retroactively applies per day.

Cyoce

I see that glorious era has come to a close

Alex A.

@Calvin'sHobbies So what? Since when does rep actually matter after one reaches the threshold for full site privileges?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

what is wrong with me

Calvin's Hobbies

01:55

@AlexA. Oh sure, idk. It's just nice in a way to know almost all my rep came in measly increments of 5 :P

Alex A.

@Calvin'sHobbies Haha that's true! It's quite impressive.

El'endia Starman

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ A lot.

Cyoce

@isaacg thanks for reminding me I didn't have to close my quotes :)

1 byte closer to beating you again

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@El'endiaStarman thanks :3

Pietu1998

I rewrote Pyth's q function (equals).

SuperJedi224

01:58

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Well, you don't need more than first. And maybe last.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@SuperJedi224 shhhh

Pietu1998

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I think the ones with dashes don't work.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

o_o

@Pietu1998 s/-/_/g

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