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06:00
wait what? 11 new questions in 2 hours? Am I supposed to pull an all-nighter???
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Aaaand there's the first of the "what the heck?!" reactions. :P
@DigitalTrauma yes
@Geobits Did you know you can chat ignore users? It'll be like he never even existed.
Yes, I know that. That's kinda beside the point IMO.
Oh, then I'm missing the point. Want me to just go ahead and nuke the account? :P
If choosing your logo and name solely to bother someone doesn't count as harassment, I'm not sure what does. I'm not saying nuke it this second, but...
06:05
So, what have I missed?
Anonymous
@AlienG 11 new questions
HEH HEH HEH
Alright.
I'm voting to close this one as unclear.
06:06
@AlexA. Was this some co-ordinated effort, or just coincidence?
@Geobits That's a good point. As it stands he is within his rights as a user. Have you told him that it's bothering you?
@DigitalTrauma Coordinated.
@DigitalTrauma Yes, it was a coordinated effort to spam main with quality challenges on Sunday evening to artificially inflate our questions/day average. :P
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@feersum I'm confused by your objection. The coordinates are given, are they not?
Anonymous
@AlexA. "artificially"
Anonymous
06:08
Technically it's legit
@El'endiaStarman No, according to OP the coordinates may be off by anything up to 0.5.
@ಠิ益ಠิStibeOG Guess what? You're not funny. Please stop.
@AlexA. Good enough?
@Geobits Yep.
Anonymous
@Geobits Who even is that making fun of?
Geobits.
Anonymous
06:09
Oh I didn't read it backwards
@feersum Ah, I see his reply to xnor. Is that such a problem? I think that makes the challenge a little more, well, challenging...
@El'endiaStarman And totally underspecified.
Anonymous
I agree with @feersum here
@Mego Are you also voting to close as unclear?
I think I agree with El'endia.
Anonymous
@AlexA. Going to, yeah
Anonymous
06:11
Well
Anonymous
Actually wait
Anonymous
I understand it now - the points have a certain amount of freedom in their location
If it was "could a regular polygon round to these int coords", that might not be bad, but I'm not sure if that's the intent or not.
I think that is the intent.
@Mego This is nowhere stated in the question.
06:12
I give up. I'm going to bed. Big work week next week (even without PPCG).
@Maltysen Your people need you. ^
Might be, but it should at least be stated clearly. It's not a bad objective that way, I guess.
The original intent was that they should be exact, but it was hastily changed after someone pointed out that most regular polygons can't be represented on an integer grid.
@DigitalTrauma If you get some time we'll be here to keep you entertained. :) Good night!
Anonymous
I'm sure we can come up with more quality challenges
06:16
I think 11 is plenty enough.
Save some for tomorrow. :P
Anonymous
@El'endiaStarman It's not enough until we graduate
Spreading them out is better than doing all of the challenges ever in one day
Anonymous
We must continue to spam entertain the site with quality challenges
@Mego Pretty sure they won't graduate us just because we put out 30 quality challenges in just one day.
Anonymous
06:17
@El'endiaStarman Then clearly we should put out 40
Please continue to spam the sandbox
Anonymous
This is like us saying to SE "notice us senpai"
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Anonymous
Let the quality challenges never cease until we graduate
How many will get quality answers?
Probably all of them.
It'll just take a while. :P
06:26
@orlp I am now :)
Still waiting on answers to: Polygons, tacos, bullets, cords, subsequences, and dice.
So 5/11 have been answered.
hi @El'endiaStarman
thanks for your answer!
I think you can do a lot better in python however :)
Oh yeah, definitely. :P
06:28
I wrote some reference code that gives me 2946
ah.. but I cheated and used pypy :)
Congrats @El'endiaStarman!
Hmm. I should expect that we'll take over HNQ for like a day... :P
Anonymous
06:30
I hope so
Total network domination
Anonymous
senpai will def notice us if we take over hnq
First the Stack Exchange network... then the world!
Actually, for that to happen, each question needs at least two answers.
I might enter bullets. Seems pretty straightforward
Anonymous
06:31
Hilbert and Sevens are also on the front page of HNQ
Oh, quick note to people who posted previously sandbox challenges: Make sure you link and delete. :)
Anonymous
What's a sandbox? :P
Took care of mine. :)
@Mego ಠ_ಠ
@El'endiaStarman how do you manage to have a computer which is less powerful than mine! :)
hi @Mego
Anonymous
06:32
@AlexA. Did you just
@Lembik Being frugal four and a half years ago. :P
@Mego Huh?
@El'endiaStarman mine is at least 6 years old!
@Lembik 1) Desktop or laptop? 2) How much did it cost?
Anonymous
06:33
@AlexA. Your disapproving face pinged me
@Mego Well yeah, I made it a reply to your post.
@El'endiaStarman desktop.. but let me check I am not lying :)
Anonymous
You have to check whether your computer is a laptop or not? o_O
@El'endiaStarman oops.. I was .. just found this in my email " Your estimated delivery date is:
Monday, January 07, 2013 "
Anonymous
06:34
Doesn't look like a reply to me
@El'endiaStarman the cpu was about 250 dollars
@Mego Scroll up. I edited it to be a reply so it retroactively pinged you.
Anonymous
@AlexA. I don't see it as edited either
@Lembik .....it's only three years old, and you thought it was six years old? :P
@El'endiaStarman yep :)
@El'endiaStarman I upgrade components and forget when :)
the box is much older
It's kinda hard to make a fair comparison between laptops and desktops, especially when you've upgraded the desktop over time... :P
all true
But anyway, mine is a laptop and I got it for a little more than $500.
Anonymous
@AlexA. I still call hax
@El'endiaStarman is that a new price?
06:36
@Mego Um okay. Call it whatever you want, I guess. :P
As in did you purchase it new for $500
good price :)
Yup. :D
So, like I said, being frugal... :P
06:41
very wise.. just use pypy instead :)
or numba.. or cython :)
Trying to golf my Minkolang answer to Mego's Hilbert primes question.
I am wondering how high the answers will be on my question .. will someone suddenly come up with a pair of 200 bit good primes?
@El'endia Every time I see the title to your bullets collide challenge, I can't help but think of that song Worlds Collide by Powerman5000 from the early 2000s.
06:48
Do you know the one?
Anonymous
@AlexA. Why did you have to remind me of that?
@Mego Welcome to my hell
Anonymous
@AlexA. :(
I am constantly plagued by music I haven't heard in about 15 years.
Nope, don't know it at all.
06:49
The other day I inexplicably got a Weezer song stuck in my head. :/
Weezer hasn't been relevant in like 20 years.
The title was vaguely inspired by "Bonnie and Collide", which is a track in Midtown Madness 2. Which is a pun on Bonnie and Clyde, of course.
@El'endiaStarman If this were the early 2000s I'd say go check it out but now it's not really worth your time. :P
haha
I don't listen to any popular music anyway.
Anonymous
@AlexA. It wasn't worth anyone's time back then either
Except Christian popular music, and even then, I'm not really in the "fad" bits...
06:54
Who here likes music?
Anonymous
\o
@AlienG that's pretty cool!
06:56
@AlienG That's cool! ....but their selection sucks. :P
@El'endiaStarman Yeah, could be better, but it's still cool.
Also most of the jokes from cmd joke are a little offensive. :P
It's basically if Pandora (Windows/Mac) became Linux.
Anonymous
How do I manage to always accidentally close out of the chat tab
07:01
El'endia is willing you out of chat with his mind and it's working.
I don't suppose anyone here fancies themselves as a number theorist?
Aspiring, once upon a time.
...when I was 19 and knew nothing >_>
@AlexA. great.. do you understand if there are an infinite number of good primes? If I increase 2 to some larger number, are there now an infinite number?
@AlexA. this is in relation to my challenge codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/65876/…
@Lembik The answer is probably.
No proof yet.
07:03
@El'endiaStarman that's interesting.. but how do you know it is probably?
is this a studied question?
The number of Sophie Germain primes (of the form 2p+1, where p is prime) is probably infinite, but again, no proof.
@El'endiaStarman yes but.. aren't good primes a superset of safe primes?
If there are an infinite number of safe primes, then of course there are an infinite number of good primes.
yes
which has just confused me even more :)
so a) is it possible in theory that there are an infinite number good primes but a finite number of safe primes? b) If I increase 2 to some large constant, does that MO answer tell me there are definitely an infinite number of good primes?
What that guy basically said is that x=13 is known to have an infinite number of primes (though he didn't find/recall where to find the proof for that).
07:09
@El'endiaStarman does it matter that I am talking about distinct prime factors?
Not terribly much, no.
as opposed to all prime factors
why doesn't that make a difference ?
(thanks by the way)
Anonymous
@AlexA. Why would he do that?
@Lembik Given that we already expect the number of Sophie Germain primes to be infinite, pretty much all classes of good primes can be presumed to be infinite.
@El'endiaStarman ah ok
I will go back to wondering how high the answers will be :)
07:19
Wow, Hilbert primes is surprisingly hard.
Anonymous
@El'endiaStarman :D
Anonymous
You should try the dice one
Anonymous
I haven't found a good solution in Seriously yet
Anonymous
I also modified it to be sides between 3 and 25 inclusive, since 1 and 2 are boring
Anonymous
(1 is auto-quit, 2 is roll once and quit)
07:34
What the hell chrome? For some reason it decided using 93% (of 16GB) of my memory was OK. The best part is that all I have open is this, two pages of YouTube and a page of GitHub.
How long have you had those YouTube tabs open?
Less then 15min.
My computer then proceeded to take two large pills of Cyanide.
Anonymous
@AlienG Did it wash them down with some happiness?
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@Mego Probably, it wasn't responding when I asked it.
07:38
@El'endiaStarman I answered bullets
twas as easy as it appeared to be
@Mego I had thought to try that thing you said already, but it wasn't working when i did that. i got an invalid token error
Anonymous
That's odd... Why is it doing that?
there is a definite three byte savings possible tho...
0o is a prefix for an octal literal.
Anonymous
@feersum Only in 3
@Mego Coding defined by one question, "Why is it doing that?"
07:47
@Mego Wrong.
Anonymous
Oh wait why does that say 2.6
Anonymous
When the PEP header says 3
Anonymous
> Python-Version: 3.0
Anonymous
> For Python 2.6...
Anonymous
07:48
Guido why
Anonymous
Why can't you be consistent with your PEP numbering system?
i wonder if i can drop that [:i]
it only matters when c is 0...and i think I can depend on index returning the lowest index
@Mego So then he can watch people get frustrated due to his own actions.
@El'endiaStarman I'm assuming we don't have to worry about arbitrary precision numbers in your question. :P
Anonymous
07:50
Oh it's because specifically-v3 PEPs are 3k, not 300
@xnor I propose that one week we have no new challenges, and force everyone to improve existing answers/try new questions/learn new languages
yep, removing it breaks the [0,0,0] test case. oh well.
Anonymous
Anonymous
@Sp3000 Ok, you're in charge of convincing Calvin not to post a challenge.
@Mego Or just a simple script, ban-on-post
@Mego We could watch SE eat itself from the inside out. Now wouldn't that be a great way to spend one week? At the end of that week we could watch the survivors rebuild the empire that once was.
Anonymous
@FlagAsSpam I posted two questions recently. Which one? :P
(I'm guessing Pythagoras.)
Bullets. :P
oh!
well then :P
07:57
Really recent. ;D
But yes, you don't have to worry about ridiculously precise test cases.
Coolio.
Integer range?
@FlagAsSpam I posted them within 5 or 10 minutes of each other, I think.
Eh, 0 to your language's limit (or 2^31-1, if you prefer).
07:57
@Mego Status?
@FlagAsSpam You missed the challenge posting party. :P
11 new challenges in an hour. :P
Damn son.
Anonymous
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A: Hilbert Primes Golf

El'endia StarmanMinkolang 0.14, 46 37 bytes n$z(xxi4*5+d01Fz+$ziz-)N. (4-$d%)1=,f Try it here and check all test cases here. Explanation n$z Take number from input and store it in the register ( Open while loop xx Dump the stack ...

BAM. -9 bytes, @Mego!
Anonymous
@El'endiaStarman Why does the test script output each twice?
08:01
@Mego Left side is mine, right side is yours.
Anonymous
@El'endiaStarman Ohh
I could add some output sugar to that.
@Sp3000 what did xnor say?
@El'endiaStarman Now we'll hopefully take up the top half of the hnq page.
2 hours ago, by El'endia Starman
Actually, for that to happen, each question needs at least two answers.
On mobile so a bit hard to link, but something about too many challenges in a short timespan = possibly not as much byte squeezing (massive paraphrase)
08:07
@El'endiaStarman Give D&M time
2 hours ago, by xnor
I feel like each one won't get the golfing attention it deserves
@Calvin'sHobbies Oh, I'm not doubting it'll happen. Just, maybe not yet. :P
Alex saw my Pythagoras one on HNQ, and either him or someone else commented that there were two others on HNQ, just not the first page.
Anonymous
I commented that, and they were/are FP
Anonymous
Hilbert and Sevens
Ah, sweet.
Well, Versatile is old, comparatively.
Anyway, @Mego, I updated the "check all test cases" link.
Well, night all.
08:09
Now it 1) has output sugar, and 2) actually checks all test cases. :P
G'night!
Anonymous
Looks neat
Anonymous
Good job
what alien said i think :/
Bye!
@Geobits Hmm, you do seem to attract a lot of doppelgangers. I promise Geoborts was a one time thing and I'm not any of the other impersonators :P
08:20
Hi there !
Gol><> beating CJam = CJam for Hilbert must not be very well golfed
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haha, that's pretty impressive
My Minkolang solution is 4 bytes longer than the CJam one.
Mine's just a for in a while in a for :/
Mine's a while in a while. :P
...wait a minute, I don't need the gosub after all...
D'oh.
Wait. o-o You implemented line jumps?
/me votes to close as duplicate.
08:24
There, now I'm beating CJam too! :P
btw to the people who dislike golfing langs I say: I'm on a phone.
@FlagAsSpam They're gosubs.
Jump to any point in the codebox and then later return to where the jump happened.
Oh.
Fancy. :D
I called them functions, which raises the weird question of: what counts as a function? o_O
"function" is the reason that they have the characters F and f. :P
Gosubs have no local scope, though.
{} recursions do, and [] () loops can.
08:27
f was 15 and F was for, so I was out of luck there :P
Hmm do functions need to have local scope?
@El'endiaStarman Well done Oo
@Sp3000 Depends on what destructive/manipulative things you might want to do with the stack.
o_O okay
It might be pretty hard to manipulate a local scope while using a stack, and can be a burden while codding some big golf
And you'd have to remember that it's like having multiple stacks ^^'
Sometimes I use the bottom item of a stack for bookkeeping, for example, and I'm doing things where I want to sum the whole stack...
Aaand I am officially winning the Hilbert primes challenge! :D
(Until Dennis the Menace comes along...)
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08:32
So you remove it/sum the stack, then return the result while the original stack is still here?
@El'endiaStarman Only cos I'm not posting :P (30) - I'll probably try CJam later
-___-
@Katenkyo Minkolang has a stack of stacks, basically.
I think yours might be golfable, but kinda hard to tell
@El'endiaStarman Wow, stackception
(Explanations hard to read on mobile)
08:37
@Katenkyo Vitsy is aware of 3 2D stacks and a 3D stack. ;)
@FlagAsSpam i'm having headache only by reading this...
@Sp3000 I did try to combine the two $z store-value-in-register operations, but that resulted in a couple extra bytes of bookkeeping, I think.
Actually, why is the outer loop a while rather than a for?
People only ever use one stack when golfing though, and they don't take advantage of its two-dimensionality (typically), so...
@Sp3000 I don't know how many Hilbert numbers to look at.
08:39
Try decrementing only when you find primes?
@El'endiaStarman Please put the actual source code in the linked examples. :P
Sorry not decrementing. Continuing loop
@FlagAsSpam Uh...I did?
Hi.
Oh gawd.
hehehe
I did update the second, but not the first.
I thought I updated the first.
08:40
No, the second has formatting.
≠ actual source
...that's what the first link is for.
Oh. That one's not updated yet. :P
c:
Yay.
Now it is. :)
I just realized that I'm an idiot and we're calculating index, not up to.
@quintopia Your bullets answer doesn't work.
For the input [5, 1, 2] the answer should be 1, right?
Nothing can catch the first one.
08:43
I like how we, a small SE, are the most active chat.
Question: what is SOPA?
The C++ chatroom is pretty active.
Stop Online Piracy Act?
Are we? Thought Arqade would be more active
It seems to be vastly unpopular. o-o
08:44
The Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) was a controversial United States bill introduced by U.S. Representative Lamar S. Smith (R-TX) to expand the ability of U.S. law enforcement to combat online copyright infringement and online trafficking in counterfeit goods. Provisions included the requesting of court orders to bar advertising networks and payment facilities from conducting business with infringing websites, and search engines from linking to the websites, and court orders requiring Internet service providers to block access to the websites. The proposed law would have expanded existing criminal...
@FlagAsSpam Any copyrighted content posted illegally by a user puts the website at risk of being taken down.
That would explain it. :P
Another in the censorship laws.
I thought ACTA/PIPA/SOPA were left for dead Oo
PIPA was, SOPA was passed.
08:46
Because to much closed to progression Oo
Gotta be honest, was planning to use a song that mentions it for poetry class...
Does it only apply to 'merica?
Yes.
International enforcement would be a bad plan. :P
hmm? SOPA didn't pass.
It didn't? Thought it did. o-o
08:47
@feersum There's a new version on the table though.
(Lucky I'm in Australia)
@feersum phew Good news !
@Hipe99 (French froggy here :p)
(insert g'day bruce joke here)
@Katenkyo Better now that our new PM's in.
@Hipe99 PM? Prime Minister? ^^'
@Katenkyo Yep. Malcolm Turnbull. 5 PMs in 5 years!
08:51
@Hipe99 Haha, at least, you don't keep a bad one for long ^^
Hum, anyone's used to OCS Inventory here?
Welcome to Australia, where prime ministers break alcohol drinking records and go missing while swimming
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@Sp3000 Haha, now that's a cool prime minister !
(For reference, this first is Bob Hawke, and the second is the infamous Harold Holt)
hi @Sp3000
Hey
08:57
@Sp3000 This is actually true, despite misgivings you might have.
Well, I'm not talking to @Sp3 but everyone else so the @sp3000 is misleading.

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