The Nineteenth Byte

Alex A.

08:05

I am so confuse how does populate text area in JavaScript no jQuery!!

El'endia Starman

.innerHTML?

Wait, does that work with textareas?

Alex A.

.value???

I hard innerhTMl is 4 scrubs

El'endia Starman

[shrug] I use jQuery, sooo...

Alex A.

In jQuery is it $('#whatever').val('Some new value')?

Nvm whatever I just did worked

Optimizer

^ blue

Alex A.

08:13

Llama ^

El'endia Starman

@AlexA. Exactly.

And .val() gets you the current contents.

Sp3000

@El'endiaStarman btw I liked your 3var interpreter but I was wondering - surely you could compress a few of the rows using put?

Alex A.

Ballin'. Thanks.

El'endia Starman

@Sp3000 I probably could indeed compress a few rows, but I kinda like it the way it is. :P

(And that would take more time and work to figure out...)

...screw you, now I'm thinking about it...

Sp3000

Well I was thinking at least for +-* :P

El'endia Starman

08:17

Tomorrow and Sunday, I'm going to try and write about 12,500 words. I'm participating in NaNoWriMo for the 5th time. :D

Sp3000

Oh, nice. Have fun :)

El'endia Starman

Thanks. :)

Sp3000

I tried to write something which was about a set growing up into a group and finally into a field. I gave up pretty quickly though - bad writer here :/

El'endia Starman

lol, that sounds like a fun idea though :P

NaNoWriMo is more about just writing than it is writing well.

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Convert your Language to Turing Machine Code You are locked into a room, with only a laptop and a single-tape Turing Machine. Your perverted capturer set you a task: he will set you free only if solve all of the problems on the Project Euler page. However, there is a catch. You are not allowed t...

El'endia Starman

08:20

You can't edit a novel you haven't written.

Sp3000

:P true

Do you have an idea yet? Or just going to pen whatever comes to mind?

El'endia Starman

I'll be (hopefully!) finishing my novel that I've been writing on-and-off for about 8 years now.

Sp3000

Oh? Long :o

El'endia Starman

Lumien and the Seven Relics

Yup. Long. :P

Sp3000

very

You know it's long if it says "Chapter 105"

El'endia Starman

08:25

hehehehe

That's the last chapter, and most chapters are about 3-4 pages.

318 pages, 142421 words at this time.

Calvin's Hobbies

Redwall meets Horcruxes

El'endia Starman

Horcruxes? Where'd you get that from?

Calvin's Hobbies

7 relics

El'endia Starman

ahh

They're more like chaos emeralds.

Sp3000

"mythical Europe". Hah.

Calvin's Hobbies

08:28

Sonic the hedgehog.. :P

El'endia Starman

:P

Sp3000

Just skimming, kinda reminds me of what was that series? Rowan of Rin? Deltora Quest? Can't remember

El'endia Starman

Neither of those ring a bell with me.

Sp3000

Oh, apparently they're both by Australian author Emily Rodda. Well that's news to me

randomra

08:46

@Sp3000 does gol><> have an offline interpreter?

Sp3000

Yeah, the Python interpreter. The past ones should be there (sorry, I'm messing with the online one atm :P)

randomra

where is the Python one?

Sp3000

Github

randomra

doh, ty

Sp3000

Did you need it for something? Out of curiosity

randomra

08:50

reading numbers is hard in ><>, codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/63183/…

and II seemed to work in gol><>

Sp3000

Ah, yeah :P

Technically there's a valid 13 using a for loop, but I'm revamping loops atm since I didn't like the previous move-down-on-completion thing

(it's basically Minko's)

El'endia Starman

(Woo I'm being copied! :P)

Sp3000

Does me copying you copying me copying you count as copying? :P

El'endia Starman

How am I copying you? :P

Sp3000

(can't tell if serious question or not :P)

El'endia Starman

08:59

I'm being totally serious, actually.

I came up with my idea of loops on my own.

Sp3000

I mean, for the challenge :P

El'endia Starman

I don't think I was even aware of Gol><> before I started developing Minkolang. Or if I was, I paid no attention.

Ahhh, lolz.

Then, uh, it's complicated.

Sp3000

XD

Nah I don't mean the language, I wouldn't accuse of anything for that

El'endia Starman

okay :)

Sp3000

(having said that, loops are pretty different atm anyway, so yeah)

El'endia Starman

09:04

yeah

Optimizer

Can't wait for robotic arms to come to the kitchen https://t.co/4LSCFxqQTa

Tweeted by internetofshit on November 6, 2015 at 3:03 PM

El'endia Starman

lolz

Sp3000

Oh noooow I get why you were confused

You know how when you reread stuff and realise it makes sense in a different context? Yeah that.

El'endia Starman

09:20

ahh, hehe

This calculates the square root.

Exactly how, I leave as a puzzle. :P

Sp3000

Is $M new?

El'endia Starman

Yes.

M is the Math category.

Includes stuff like factorial, nth prime, that sort of thing.

$M just toggles what it does.

It pops off the top of stack to decide what to do.

Sp3000

Oh... it's 8$M, not $M, right.

El'endia Starman

yep

So 8$M is the mystery function. It's not square root though, that's 1M. :P

(If I was actually golfing a square root function, I'd do it like this: n1MN..)

Sp3000

I'd imagine some sort of base convert, but I dunno

El'endia Starman

09:35

nope

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Multiply with restricted operations (again!) (also add) This question is pretty much in its infancy, the reason I am posting it so early (as opposed to developing it fully first) is that I want feedback before I spend all the time finishing the interpreter. If at a glance, this challenge seems ...

El'endia Starman

Try it with small values in the input and see what the stack looks like before it gets gobbled by 8$M.

Sp3000

Is space not a no-op in Minko?

El'endia Starman

nope

Use # for that.

Sp3000

... oh that's right

headdesk

El'endia Starman

09:38

heh

That's definitely one major difference between Minko and other 2D+ languages...

Sp3000

Heck you don't even need to push those zeroes

El'endia Starman

! You're right!

Thanks to the bottomless well of 0s.

Sp3000

Ah got it. Reduce hypot

flawr

morning guys ヾ(￣0￣ )ノ

El'endia Starman

@Sp3000 Yup! Hypotenuse!

Sp3000

09:42

Hey

El'endia Starman

@flawr G'morning for you!

G'night for me!

Heading to bed now. G'night all!

Sp3000

Night :)

El'endia Starman

T'was fun talking with you, Sp3000. :)

Sp3000

:)

(I think you're beating me at implementing libraries :P)

El'endia Starman

We'll have to talk later about how we're implementing our commands because the way I did it makes it really easy to add commands.

(Not so easy in cases of control flow. Those are a bit harder.)

Sp3000

09:47

I have something similar to your $M for now, except I've only done it for trig

flawr

I hope I do not annoy everoyne with my github questions: How do you guys use git? Console? GUI?

Sp3000

Pyth does something similar - I'd like a better way, but I dunno how atm...

@flawr The GUI, mainly

El'endia Starman

@flawr console

Sp3000

(I'm almost tempted to make them into 3 char commands just for readability, but 2 char commands in a 2D language is already pretty weird)

El'endia Starman

(Okay, actually going to bed now. G'night!)

Sp3000

09:55

:P night

flawr

good night

flawr

10:11

@Sp3000 May I ask you for some help regarding git/hub?

Sp3000

Err sure? Not sure if I can help much (hint: I don't know anything about edit conflicts :P)

flawr

Much simpler than that=)

I just created a new repository (via gui), it is a folder with some files in it from an old project.

Now I think I have to add those files, but how can I do that via gui?

Sp3000

If you've made a ~~project~~ repo there, I think it just shows up?

flawr

On the left side theres a list of repos, and there it is, I can click on it, but I cannot find a way to add those files

Oh, there is a list of 'changes' where all those files are.

Sp3000

It should show up in the middle part where all the file changes are displayed

flawr

10:16

But I am not sure if they are already added. There is a checkbox for each file and if I check one or more i can 'commit' them.

So it seems they are allreay 'added'?

Sp3000

If it shows up, I think it auto adds? Give it a try :)

flawr

Hm, now it is stuck loading...

Sp3000

:/

flawr

The repository has been created online, but no files show up, gui still loading. Let's see if I can do this via command line.

Sp3000

Done an initial commit and sync yet?

flawr

10:24

I tried, but that is where it seemed to get stuck with this loading sign.

Sp3000

Hmm weird...

flawr

Yay github.com/flawr/Night-Sky-Map (Download and run is ok, but do not look at the code or you will get eye cancer.)

flawr

10:53

@sp3000 I think I now finally understand the basics, thank you for your help!

Sp3000

:) have fun

feersum

11:08

lol I just wrote an over 1000 bytes code golf answer

Optimizer

11:25

> Flawr: Crashing planes and making eye cancer a thing since 2015

Also, can you publish a gh-pages branch, so that flawr.github.io/Night-Sky-Map/skymap.html is a thing?

@MrPlaneCrasher ^

flawr

11:54

@Optimizer Hm how can i do that?

Optimizer

create a branch with the same contents

branch name : gh-pages

flawr

Let me see, I first have to look up branches.

Optimizer

git checkout -b gh-pages

flawr

Hm I found this pages.github.com

Optimizer

that is global level

help.github.com/articles/user-organization-and-project-pages

^ repo level

flawr

11:58

I have no clue about 'level'.

Optimizer

just run the command

flawr

And now every change I commit/push as usuall also affects this site?

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Q: What's the weather like?

Pick six cities, one from each of the populated continents, Asia, Africa, North America, South America, Europe and Australia. Make a table where the weather for each of the cities are listed, for the coming ten 6-hour periods. The cities should be listed in the order above (first an Asian city, ...

Optimizer

in this branch, yes

flawr

I'll be back soon, let me try.

anOKsquirrel

12:02

So you guys are having git problems or no?

git is annoying

Optimizer

no

anOKsquirrel

k

Optimizer

nope

anOKsquirrel

I can't find a conversation from yesterday

Optimizer

the idiot one?

anOKsquirrel

12:08

nope

The CJam one

Sp3000

This one? chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/240/2015/11/7

anOKsquirrel

found it already, but thx

Sp3000

:)

anOKsquirrel

I hope nobody finished a CJam answer to +1 primes before I do

Sp3000

Dennis probably has a solution already :P

Optimizer

12:14

and that's already shorter than your future one

anOKsquirrel

@Sp3000 Your solution doesn't work if I want to insert at the very beginning

from earlier

whoops I killed chat

Sp3000

Ah yeah, you said in the middle so I assumed middle :P

anOKsquirrel

Oh, sorry.

For the counting +1 primes one, my array was an array of numbers

So I wanted to replace one of the numbers with 11, etc

That didn't work tho

But I have another idea!

kindof

Sp3000

Numbers are a bit better than strings I think

anOKsquirrel

I agree

Sp3000

12:27

2 [1 2 3 4 5] 1$m>6+_,@-m> ed <-- there's got to be a better way

anOKsquirrel

I have a way

Since the thing is binary, add 10 to the solution

Add that to the array

Use `e`

darnit

e\

Optimizer

an ok squirrel teaching sp3000 ?

anOKsquirrel

nope

Sp3000

You know, for +1 primes the best way probably doesn't involve adding to arrays, probs

anOKsquirrel

Probably xD

Optimizer

12:31

probs

anOKsquirrel

gtg eat, cya in a few minutes

Optimizer

walnuts?

Peter Taylor

Sigh. With the possible exception of the Haskell one, I don't think any of the answers to codegolf.stackexchange.com/q/63183/194 would survive OP replying "No" to my comment, and yet "No" should be the default answer to "Can we assume that we're only dealing with nice cases?"

Sp3000

Given the description "where n is the pool taken from and r is the number of selections from that pool" I'd guess yes, but it'd definitely be good for the OP to clarify either way

anOKsquirrel

back

flawr

12:40

@Optimizer flawr.github.io/Night-Sky-Map/skymap.html

2

Optimizer

nice!

anOKsquirrel

sweet!

Peter Taylor

It seems to be missing some change listeners on the text fields. After typing in my approximate lat and long I had to click a button to get it to update.

flawr

@PeterTaylor Yes, I used to do everything via buttons.

That is an old project of mine, it really isn't that great, and the code is the worst. I have had no idea what I am doing=)

(Well I still do not.)

And I just noticed a file is missing

Optimizer

there I am, wondering for 5 minuets about those extra stationary stars..

and then I realized that its the dust on my screen...

@flawr can you add geo support?

developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Location

Peter Taylor

12:46

Does it include the planets as well?

flawr

@PeterTaylor No, I didn't find any information on how to calculate planetary positions, yet.

I was originally inspired by this site: heavens-above.com/…

@Optimizer I just added another file, how can I also add this to this page?

Optimizer

@flawr for this repository purpose, I think you can delete the master branch and only work on gh-pages

so that you dont have to keep syncing files

flawr

I do not really work on it anymore=)

How can I switch between the two branches in my console?

Optimizer

but for now, git checkout gh-pages, git add -A, git commit -m "blah", git push origin gh-pages

Peter Taylor

stjarnhimlen.se/comp/ppcomp.html

Optimizer

12:53

@flawr I meant this link developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Geolocation not the earlier one

regarding geo location support

flawr

@Optimizer Thanks.

Now it seems I need somehow to switch back to the original branch...

anOKsquirrel

uhhh now I need to remove dupes from my cjam answer

Optimizer

@flawr its pretty easy, just relate to the previous commands

flawr

The file I wanted to add got deleted!

Optimizer

lol, what did you do?

flawr

12:59

checkout master

I thought thats how I get back to the master branch...

Optimizer

so you never created that file in master branch

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