The Nineteenth Byte - 2015-10-27 (page 1 of 7)

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12:00 AM

I always say yes to this:

Eggplant (Solanum melongena) or aubergine is a species of nightshade grown for its edible fruit. It is known in South Asia, Southeast Asia and South Africa as brinjal. "Eggplant" is the common name in North American and Australian English but British English uses "aubergine". Other common names are melongene, garden egg, or guinea squash. The fruit is widely used in cooking. As a member of the genus Solanum, it is related to both the tomato and the potato. It was originally domesticated from the wild nightshade species, the thorn or bitter apple, S. incanum, probably with two independent do...

I like eggplant

That is correct.

quartata-is-right yay

about-eggplant

Eggplant always sounds like a word a three year old would invent.

El'endia Starman

12:02 AM

alex-is-only-right-when-he-agrees-with-quartata

@minxomat The Americans probably adopted the name "eggplant" as a further sign of rebellion from their former British rulers, who call it "aubergine."

@minxomat The white variants look like an egg. You got a better name?

Personally I think eggplant is very catchy

> aubergine

@quartata Yeah, aubergine.

Woo I can beat El'endia if I cheat (woo cheating)

El'endia Starman

12:03 AM

@AlexA. Like banana, huh?

@Sp3000 o_O

How?

Sp woos El'endia!

El'endia Starman

...

@AlexA. Well, usually the british words sound sillier.

El'endia Starman

It's not very effective!

So you know how ><> pushes -1 on EOF? I was pushing -1 on EOF for int input as well

12:04 AM

Aw.

That kinda breaks things when the input has -1

El'endia Starman

@Sp3000 Minkolang does that too.

@minxomat As an American, I can agree with you on that. :P

Yeah, but you actually have a loop that runs until EOF right?

El'endia Starman

Right. (...$I$).

Which pushes the length of input onto the stack and then breaks the loop if it's 0.

12:06 AM

@minxomat Ok that's pretty good

El'endia Starman

I have this idiom precisely for cases where it would be a problem. :P

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It doesn't really describe it

Yeah, I only have SI which moves down on EOF instead of pushing -1, and new line are expensive :/

Hence the cheating - interpreter now has a flag which is set to true on EOF, and the E instruction now checks that instead of whether the stack top is -1

@minxomat ah the glory days of le 4chan

El'endia Starman

12:07 AM

@Sp3000 And even with that you still tied me? Dang.

Yeah... (expensive newline is expensive)

@minxomat According to this, @Doorknob should really be called "Twisting Plankhandle."

@AlexA. I see no downside.

@DoorHandle Seriously?

@DoorHandle change your name to Twisting Plankhandle pls

DoorHandle has insufficient rep to talk in chat, though they can enter the chatroom.

12:12 AM

@AlexA. Sock confirmed.

Also why their avatar doesn't display.

@AlexA. rip

I don't think Doorhandle is actually Doorknob.

I thought NotDoorknob was Doorknob.

DoorHandle is Doorknobs evil twin.

oic

As if Doorknob wasn't evil enough.

12:13 AM

Hey @DoorHandle, go make 5 meaningful edits at +2 rep each then come back to chat.

No no don't listen to him

@quartata No, NotDoorknob is not Doorknob. Obviously.

Post a Ruby answer get your master to upvote it

No one.

Oh sorry, misunderstood.

I suspect he's @El'endiaStarman's sock actually

El'endia Starman

12:15 AM

ಠ_ಠ

@El'endiaStarman Thatha

El'endia Starman

I have no socks!

Only shoes

@El'endiaStarman You should do some laundry.

El'endia Starman

Well, in real life, I do. It's a bit chilly in this basement.

12:15 AM

Alex is probably pulling out all the mod tools by now

Shoe confirmed?

@Sp3000 For what?

(wow no one paid any attention to my sick burn)

I already know all about DoorHandle, if that's what you mean.

Ah, right :P I thought you mods had fancy tools like IP tracking or what not

12:16 AM

@Sp3000 Nuclear missiles too

They got lots of things

@quartata It was neither ill nor sufficiently warm.

El'endia Starman

@quartata Am mod, can confirm.

@AlexA. dammit

I calls them like I sees them.

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12:18 AM

@Sp3000 We have utility belts, not unlike Batman.

@minxomat lmao what

@minxomat Where did you find this?

Was that on Gems from SE?

It looks quite familiar.

Also

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A: RegEx match open tags except XHTML self-contained tags

You can't parse [X]HTML with regex. Because HTML can't be parsed by regex. Regex is not a tool that can be used to correctly parse HTML. As I have answered in HTML-and-regex questions here so many times before, the use of regex will not allow you to consume HTML. Regular expressions are a tool th...

Indeed. @AlexA.

I read this out loud.

Big mistake

My screen started spewing HTML ichor all over

And then a pony showed up and burst into flames for some reason

El'endia Starman

12:20 AM

@Sp3000 They tend to be even more expensive in Minkolang because I can fit so much onto one line...

Then I woke up in my bed with my left kidney missing

I'm beginning to think this recollection is diverging from reality.

Why did "also" get starred?

El'endia Starman

Alex, I presume.

@El'endiaStarman ಠ_ಠ

Why would you assume that?

El'endia Starman

12:21 AM

I didn't assume...I presumed...

@El'endiaStarman Golfwise, one-line tends to be better yeah :P I tried making "Teleporting Flatfish" at one point, but then I realised "Hmm this is basically CJam"

@El'endiaStarman Why would you presume that?

> Was that on Gems from SE?

I read that as Germans from SE

El'endia Starman

@AlexA. 'cause you're the resident troll. :P

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@El'endiaStarman ಠ_ಠ ಠ_ಠ ಠ_ಠ ಠ_ಠ

El'endia Starman

12:22 AM

@Sp3000 You probably would've ended up with something more like Minkolang than CJam.

@El'endiaStarman That's Geobits.

@minxomat Much like yourself!

I had arrays at one point - took them out again because they weren't "><>y" (read: Pythonic for ><>)

Fishy

2

><> ><> ><> <>< <>< <><

El'endia Starman

12:23 AM

@quartata <meme>Why not both?</meme>

Subwoofers are cool

El'endia Starman

@Sp3000 Minkolang has an array. I haven't actually used it yet though.

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As a data type?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

xD

12:25 AM

@AlexA. awwww

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

My votes reset :D :D :D :D

El'endia Starman

@Sp3000 Actually, no. Not one you can have on a stack, anyway. It's a global array.

My subwoofers are rectangular and black and very loud

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I will count how many votes I am allocated.

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@TheDoctor

12:26 AM

Is that a dog with hydraulics?

@El'endiaStarman Ah right, yeah I meant on stack :P Global array sounds interesting though (but it sounds like you could use the codebox for that?)

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El'endia Starman

@Sp3000 If you use the codebox, you can have issues with characters already there.

You could use a row that doesn't contain your code?

Hey @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ did you ever push my changes to the chat bot

12:27 AM

@AlexA. Those look like dual-cone or coaxial fullranges, not subs

I'd make a pull request but lazy

El'endia Starman

@Sp3000 At that point, it'd probably be easier and less expensive to use the global array. :P

@quartata where?

El'endia Starman

~~I think it's n-dimensional, in fact.~~ Only two dimensional. I considered making it n-dimensional.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quartata erm Idk

12:28 AM

@TheDoctor github

@TheDoctor Idk they look more like headless dogs to me

@El'endiaStarman Well, I guess? :P one byte shorter per g/p I suppose

@quartata very specific

El'endia Starman

@Sp3000 Let's say you have a For loop. i gets you the loop counter, but your code is on the first line, so you do i1+ to shift it down. +2 bytes.

ooooooooooooooooh

12:30 AM

You could do i9p assume you have no code on line 9

@TheDoctor github.com/ConorOBrien-Foxx/PPCG-Chat-Bot

El'endia Starman

@Sp3000 Maybe there is code there.

Maybe you've filled up a 9x9 square and have to do math.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ you need more repositories

Well that's just going into specific cases :P (in ><> at least, you can go up to f for one thing)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@TheDoctor Idk what a repository is. :P JK

12:31 AM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ on github?

I haz too many github.com/red-green?tab=repositories

El'endia Starman

@Sp3000 Yeah. It actually kinda annoys me that 10 requires 3 bytes in Minkolang, but I've already used abcd...

I don't yet know what I'll use e and f for.

I think even if you don't have 11-15, you should at least have something for 10

El'endia Starman

yeah

@TheDoctor Is your GitHub username intended to be a reference to that Canadian comedy show from the 90s?

@AlexA. Indeed it is!

12:34 AM

r u canada

no

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I found an issue with your code.

3

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

XD @minxomat What issue?

That's truly a reckless oversight on your part, Conor.

El'endia Starman

> brake

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

12:36 AM

i-use-no-external-libraries-except-mathjs

El'endia Starman

sigh

:(

> ConorOBrien-Foxx closed this 25 seconds ago

It's not fixed :/

apparently-tags-are-used-for-emphasis

can-you-bold-tags

El'endia Starman

12:37 AM

Oh, @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ, I'm reading your Simplex readme, and if your parenthetical is 2 whole paragraphs, it shouldn't be a parenthetical.

> sackoverflow

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El'endia Starman

@AlexA. yes

@VTCAKAVSMoACE Lol, crap :D

@VTCAKAVSMoACE hahahahahahahaha

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@El'endiaStarman Actually, a parenthetical can span multiple paragraphs. (And thanks for reading it :D)

12:37 AM

@VTCAKAVSMoACE see my comment on the issue

El'endia Starman

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ It can. It shouldn't.

puts on sunglasses

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@El'endiaStarman Dɪғғᴇʀᴇɴᴛ ᴡʀɪᴛɪɴɢ sᴛʏʟᴇs ᴀᴀᴀᴀᴀᴀʜʜʜ

@TheDoctor c; I see what you did there.

Too many potato?

12:40 AM

potatoverflow

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What are parentheticals? (Perhaps they're something like this (or this instead), with parentheses [what about square brackets (or even nested (can we nest these things?

No - I think that would brake the "stubborn" aspect of the sackoverflow users.

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Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

issue fixed!

Oh no i'm almost out of stars

nd it's only been like an hour

El'endia Starman

12:41 AM

@Sp3000 .......you....didn't....close...them. =_=

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Where's the star button...?

I'm particularly fond of the above dog photo since it's the Husky mascot from the University of Washington, my alma mater. :)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Obligatory XKCD

@El'endiaStarman ))]). And that's how parentheticals span multiple paragraphs..

El'endia Starman

> // # import jQuery

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

12:42 AM

@VTCAKAVSMoACE To the right, if you hover over the post.

huskies are best dog

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El'endia Starman

Psshahaha.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I'm well aware of that one. ;) I'm talking about GitHub's.

El'endia Starman

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ಠ_ಠ

another xkcd:

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Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

12:43 AM

@VTCAKAVSMoACE Oh. haha. Near top right, under your user name, next to "fork"

=.=

El'endia Starman

@Sp3000 I never said they couldn't. I said they shouldn't.

@minxomat I am best dog.

El'endia Starman

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ )

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@TheDoctor lolzors i has antiviras on my linax virtul mashine

12:44 AM

no other dog can code-golf

El'endia Starman

There! I can relax now!

(

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Haha, nice one (though the problem can never be solved (or fixed (or found (((((({{{{{[{({((<

o no

@El'endiaStarman That physically hurts.

12:45 AM

> // # import jQuery

3

I'm sorry. No comments for you.

El'endia Starman

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ >))})}]}}}}}))))))))))

OH THANK GOD

I should create dummy accounts so I can star things when I run out

Hmm. The fact that anything that I get starred for is a quote speaks volumes.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

And of course, my own statement is getting more stars than if I said it .__.

El'endia Starman

12:46 AM

3 mins ago, by El'endia Starman

> // # import jQuery

Originality is overrated.

What did I miss?

ಠ__________________________________________________________________________________________________________ಠ

28 secs ago, by TheDoctor

18 secs ago, by El'endia Starman

3 mins ago, by El'endia Starman

> // # import jQuery

> Originality is overrated.

I hate jQuery

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Come at me

12:47 AM

no u dont

Yeah I do.

I didn't know I was you.
ಠ_ಠ

gtg

I actually legitimately do.

El'endia Starman

I like jQuery.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

12:47 AM

@quartata If you hate jQuery, come, and join arms with me!

I have no opinion.

I don't use JavaScript. :D

El'endia Starman

I, however, don't think it's capable of doing all things like some seem to think...

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Yay

It can add numbers tho rite?

El'endia Starman

12:48 AM

Only you can add numbers!

Wow I wasn't immediately slaughtered for expressing my dislike of jQuery.

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If this was Stack Overflow I'd be so dead

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@quartata ... that you know of.

Poison can take a while to absorb into the bloodstream.

^

El'endia Starman

12:49 AM

@quartata I'm not slaughtering you because I'd prefer to let your non-use of jQuery be a problem. :P

@AlexA. That is actually not a bad idea for April 1 next year

@MartinBüttner are you allowing brute forcing all the combinations?

not sure it's better than some combinatorial counting, but it might come up

@Doorknob :D

Why wait until April?

>.>

Why put off until tomorrow what you could put off until the day after?

Words to live by.

12:56 AM

@AlexA. And I do. ;D

El'endia Starman

Until the Panic Monster comes by...

Panic Monster?? AHHH RUN

@AlexA. Periapt of proof against poison bruh

He actually ran.

BattleBlock Theater Music - Finale

El'endia Starman

12:58 AM

@minxomat :O

If you scroll up and down on this answer very slightly, the image vibrates. O.o

El'endia Starman

@VTCAKAVSMoACE status-norepro

@Depends on pixel aspect ratio.

El'endia Starman

(I can't scroll continuously. Not a touchscreen.)

@El'endiaStarman That doesnt make sense.

El'endia Starman

1:00 AM

Oh wait, yes I can. I have a touchpad.

@minxomat My mouse can't scroll continuously, so I don't see that "vibration".

> @Depends

@VTCAKAVSMoACE ooh puppies

@El'endiaStarman Click and drag the scrollbar...

@VTCAKAVSMoACE ...

@minxomat ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Hah! Justice.

1:05 AM

;)

Damn.

Didn't know that \ was an escape character. Always thought it was just ` that did that.

There's a site dedicated to that emoji. o.o

1:19 AM

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Q: Monday Mini-Golf #6: Meeesesessess upp teeexexextext

Monday Mini-Golf: A series of short code-golf challenges, posted (hopefully!) every Monday. True story1: The other day, I was playing around on my tablet when I had the idea to visit the page I normally use on my PC for testing JavaScript. After the page loaded, I entered this simple program: a...

code-golf string

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Q: The jQuery showdown

Some time after this incident… There are some of us who are against this defiling order of jQuery. It is an unholy presence, of which must be exterminated. I therefore call on you, the loyal to The New Kingdom of Reformation, to create a program that will eliminate such resistance. All code must...

code-golf string restricted-source

El'endia Starman

....crap. I can't use $.

Or 0.

What kind of a sicko are you @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ?!?

Thankfully you didn't forbid o or O!

> o is now forbidden due to popular demand.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@El'endiaStarman :3

@VTCAKAVSMoACE Maybe I shoullllld....

El'endia Starman

...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Haha! Just kidding.

El'endia Starman

1:25 AM

Y'know, I upvoted your question. If you do that...

@NewMainPosts This is officially impossible in AppleScript.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@El'endiaStarman o____o the oOs stay XD

Just gotta find an offset for both strings, shouldn't be too hard :P

El'endia Starman

oh, true :P

I always forget I have p. :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Adding some bonuses etc. that may make it more interesting.

1:28 AM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ How can we output "This programmer is guilty of Heresy. He must be burnt." if we can't use r, e, or y?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@VTCAKAVSMoACE 'Tis part of the challenge ;)

-.- ASCII...

"Just gotta find an offset... (ry

)"

El'endia Starman

@VTCAKAVSMoACE :)

1:34 AM

@El'endiaStarman Gah! Now the parentheses can never be balanced!

What's up everyone? (New here)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Quick, edit a post!

Hello @AlienG ! Glad you could be here!

Ah! An Alien!

Yeah, I'm known as an Alien for being weird :S

Wait - they only ever attack the USA, so I'm save.

1:36 AM

@minxomat I thought the name was Allen. o-o

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

D:

Wait, you're not in the USA?!? Oh no, my plans...

3

muahaha

They're ruined!

@NewMainPosts I'm going to try to make a Groovy one using the Java UTF 16 code trick

@AlienG Very mysterious

> Apparently, this user prefers to keep an air of mystery about them.

1:37 AM

@NewMainPosts I would love to see a jQuery answer written solely with the characters forbidden.

@VTCAKAVSMoACE hue hue

Any of you know GamrCorps?

El'endia Starman

@AlienG He's in here often.

@GamrCorps!

Yeah, close friend of mine.

El'endia Starman

Oh, cool!

1:39 AM

^-^

El'endia Starman

Did you join because of him?

Yeah.

El'endia Starman

cool

He always quotes cool topics from here and I found them quite interesting.

So naturally, you know.

El'endia Starman

:D

1:42 AM

Are all of you commonly here in this chat?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AlienG Yes.

Then hello C:

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

(Quick question: I have a regex and I need to match it's opposite. How???)

\d+\.\d*\d*\$

@AlienG I think you mean "!dlroW ,olleH"l\O;. ;)

What do you mean, "opposite"? Everything which that doesn't match?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

1:44 AM

@Doorknob I mean I don't want to replace a $ if it is preceded by regex \d+\.\d*\d* in a replace expression

@VTCAKAVSMoACE Yeah, that. XD

I think that the links in the typical scoring Javascript thingydooda is broken for Safari 9.

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Maybe opening it in a new tab would fix it?

Quick question, are you guys (and possibly girls?) pro coders?

@AlienG Hellnah.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Hmm, that's tricky. Does it have to be a single regex?

@AlienG nope, although one day maybe :)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

1:48 AM

@Doorknob No, I don't think it is possible with a singular regex

@AlienG Haha, we are all pro relative to the majority.

Alright, cool.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ yeah, that's what I was going to say

Also @VTCAKAVSMoACE try incognito? Might sound weird but it sometimes helps...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Doorknob Yeah. I was thinking of replacing all instance of the matched characters with a special control sequence then replacing all $ not in that control sequence, but what the control sequence might be escapes me.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ there's a much easier way

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

1:49 AM

@Doorknob Enlighten me?

@AlienG Who uses a private window for code golf?

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ match on \d+\.\d*\d\$|(\$)

then if the capture group is non-null, you know it's something you want

it's a neat trick I learned a few months ago, actually

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Doorknob Mind. Blown. Thank you for passing on your wisdom to me :D

glad to help :D

@VTCAKAVSMoACE I do because then I can't mix tabs.

Well not always but quite often.

<--- That's why I have the nickname of "Alien" (I am weird)

1:56 AM

@El'endiaStarman I'm here!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^ hi!

hi!

El'endia Starman

@AlienG I'm trying to become a pro programmer. :P

@El'endiaStarman Nice :D

El'endia Starman

(i.e., get a programming job.)

1:58 AM

Hey @GamrCorps, C:

hi!

@AlienG Directly from my profile:

> Programmer ~~specializing~~ ~~learning~~ almost succeeding at learning Java, Applescript, and ><>, and ~~writing~~ fixing ShadyAsFuck and Vitsy.

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