The Nineteenth Byte

thejonymyster

12:25 AM

@emanresuA wait im confused, what exactly does it do?

emanresu A

[a, b] = [stack.pop(), stack.pop()]; stack.push(a)

thejonymyster

oh right i forgot pop is meant to discard an item

i was like "where does the other one go??"

OldSandboxPosts

1:00 AM

Sandbox posts last active a week ago: Seeing the queen's lasers, Interpret BigTalk

thejonymyster

i still think bigtalk could work if it changed more about the language

emanresu A

Yeah, but I have no idea what to do with it

thejonymyster

pretty much anything :P

maybe a way to halt early?

emanresu A

Ooh, I have an idea

thejonymyster

:D exciting

emanresu A

1:17 AM

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Interpret BigTalk Talk is a language which takes a single bit of input and has four commands: 00 If the accumulator is 0, set the accumulator to 0. 01 If the accumulator is 0, set the accumulator to 1. 10 If the accumulator is 1, set the accumulator to 0. 11 If the accumulator is 1, set the accu...

Radvylf Programs

There seem to only actually be three things a Talk program can do: Return the input unchanged, return 0, or return 1

Since 00 and 11 are identity operators, and 01 and 10 both set the accumulator to a constant

thejonymyster

do you think its tc

(talk complete)

emanresu A

Possibly

thejonymyster

the challenge doesnt seem bad but it doesnt really seem like its talk related anymore :P

Radvylf Programs

Well, it talks in about the same way some people do, either agreeing no matter what you said, disagreeing no matter what you said, or rewording exactly what you just said and acting like it's adding onto the conversation

thejonymyster

1:22 AM

lmao

i agree completely

emanresu A

lmao

Unrelated String

so true

emanresu A

We're all 11

caird coinheringaahing

@thejonymyster talk isn't tc, as all talk programs terminate IIRC

emanresu A

The variantishn't I've created might be

thejonymyster

1:32 AM

i mean your variant is just a slashes derivative isn't it? :P

it doesnt do the "keep replacing until it stops changing" thing though, it seems

emanresu A

Yes it doe

Oh waitn vm

lyxal

2:10 AM

@RadvylfPrograms I disagree

emanresu A

2:21 AM

Just showed a friend ArnoldC

CMQ: I've gone and (partially) implemented nilad-dyad pairs as single monads. Should I just go all the way and group nilads until either there's another nilad or it becomes at least a monad?

E.g. ND is grouped as a single element, so is NMD, but NMND is grouped as (NM)(ND)

Since taking input is a nilad, I don't want to go too far. Thoughts?

Bubbler

honestly I don't get the purpose of grouping like that

Unrelated String

@emanresuA wait what

what does taking input... take

emanresu A

Oops, nilad

thejonymyster

prolly an amouint

oh, i mean monadic input could make sense

"take n bytes"

Radvylf Programs

@UnrelatedString Input, silly :p

emanresu A

2:33 AM

@Bubbler The main purpose is so that modifiers (Like Jelly quicks) can easily take multiple elements.

thejonymyster

tbh if youve never seen it done that way i say do it just for the experimental value :P

Bubbler

so you want to group ND into an M and NM into an N?

emanresu A

Pretty much

Radvylf Programs

Either do normal stack-based or go full tacit, but halfway like that is just going to create problems

emanresu A

Vyxal goes halfway and it works

Bubbler

2:35 AM

sounds like it's subject to recursive grouping explosion

thejonymyster

i just realized what tho9se letters stood for -_-

Unrelated String

come to think of it what would the possible problem be with the get-input nilad
are you thinking of also having some kind of implicit cycle-stack, so the problem would be that the grouping actually consumes something that's supposed to live on the stack "reusably"?

emanresu A

@thejonymyster How did you hit a 9 in the middle of that sentence

Unrelated String

it's close to o

thejonymyster

qwerty o9 adjacency yea

emanresu A

2:37 AM

@UnrelatedString Actually I guess not too much. hmm, interesting idea. Will think about it

Radvylf Programs

That's actually really cool that google/DDG/whatever you're using can do B64 conversion for you

If a little unintelligently

thejonymyster

omg how do i get the inverse of that

i just had a great idea :P

Radvylf Programs

Reopen voting time

emanresu A

@RadvylfPrograms Still sus tho

Aiden Chow

needs code golf tag still

nvm

they just edited it in lol

Radvylf Programs

2:48 AM

Wait but they also removed the "this is code golf" part...

Fixed

Radvylf Programs

3:16 AM

Big problem

26

Q: Add a hidden language to a polyglot

Inspired/mostly copied but I don't think it's a dupe. Also Inspired. In this challenge, you will create polyglots that include all languages from previous answers, and another language which you won't share and others must guess. The first language prints 1, the second prints 2, etcetera. For exa...

Basically every rSNBATWPL answer here is a snippet, not a full program

And I don't think the rules allow that

I think DSO's behavior of acting like a REPL and printing the result of the last statement is really misleading and contributes to that (my fault for not pointing that out earlier)

Aiden Chow

dang shouldve said that earlier lol

like when the answer was posted

i think too late now

Radvylf Programs

Didn't realize until now

thejonymyster

just cite "interpreter is language" and call it a night? :P

Radvylf Programs

I suppose an exception could be made since the behavior of literally every interpreter except the Node/NPM one is basically a one-time-use REPL, but it's kind of annoying now that I'm aware of it lol

thejonymyster

r/accidentalgolfinglang

unrelated but does anyone know how to steal code from google

i want that stupid google docs "draw shit and we'll find a bunch of similar unicode characters" for offline use

(for codepage reasons ofc, im on topic ;P)

lyxal

3:28 AM

shapecatcher.com

No need for google

thejonymyster

ty kindly

lyxal