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00:27
I solved Semantle #66 in 77 guesses. My first guess had a similarity of -1.44. My first word in the top 1000 was at guess #36. My penultimate guess had a similarity of 56.08 (995/1000). semantle.novalis.org
huh, its interesting how spoiler arent top 1000. if they were my first top 1000 instead of spoiler i couldve gotten it in much less guesses
i'm just trying to think of where i can go from 997 :P
...999 apparently
@UnrelatedString lel good luck
I solved Semantle #66 in 74 guesses. My first guess had a similarity of 7.40. My first word in the top 1000 was at guess #16. My penultimate guess had a similarity of 78.68 (999/1000). semantle.novalis.org
00:40
@UnrelatedString lmaoooo
2 hours ago, by allxy
Announcing canvas, a r/place clone for us to mess with: https://canvas.rto.run
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i actually watched a bit of spoiler over the weekend
it was an
interesting
match
@UnrelatedString lolol u really have to spoiler that ???
its not like someones gonna look at TNB, take that one specific word u sent, and put it in semantle
right???
01:21
I find it interesting that both the name for the political ideology of Fascism and a strong homophobic slur originate from the same latin word, and for entirely different reasons
And it's not even a latin word with any harmful meaning. Just means "a bundle of sticks"
Connotations amiright?
the second word you're talking about wasn't even originally a slur - it was to do with cigarettes (IIRC)
No, that's a third totally distinct meaning.
wait really
wow
It originally also referred to a bundle of sticks, and it was used as a pejorative term for women (who would gather bundles of sticks for firewood)
dah frick i just closed a tab that had a reference I needed
01:27
And IIRC the reason Fascism is called that is something to do with how one stick is easy to snap but a whole bundle of them isn't. I think bundles of rods were also weapons used by guards for rulers and the wealthy elite, so bundles of sticks were associated with authority too IIRC
man early internet html/web page design is wack
with graphics like this:
You wonder how people got by
got by without flat/modern design
01:42
@RadvylfPrograms specifically bundles of rods with axe blades iirc
02:19
as a unc student i am legally obligated to watch the basketball game tonight and i gotta say
it's kinda funny how unc's playing fairly inconsistently but still way ahead because kansas is playing consistently poorly
02:40
@UnrelatedString legally obligated?
Wow.
C
ringe.
it was a joke
att
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I solved Semantle #66 in 89 guesses. My first guess had a similarity of 9.39. My first word in the top 1000 was at guess #14. My penultimate guess had a similarity of 78.68 (999/1000). semantle.novalis.org
@UnrelatedString xd
those canvas qr codes are rickrolls aren't they
Only one of them
what are the refs smoking now
Rainbow car and road go brrrr
03:18
omg irl RGB
It's so trippy and I love it
03:43
Reminder: Don't flag invalid answers as NAA/VLQ
(Actually given the timing, the most recent one I saw in the queues may have just been autoflagged for not having an explanation)
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Q: Sniff out biased random permutations

loopy waltThe brilliant engineers at <enter company you love to hate> have struck again. This time they've "revolutionised" the generation of random permutations. "Every great invention is simple" they say and their magical new algorithm is as follows: Start with a list 1,2,3,...,n of numbers to permute. ...

it wasn't flagged it was just put into the queue probably for being too short
Ah, ok. Wish it gave more details when it autoflags stuff
i added shading to the CGCC logo :P
@allxy ^
03:53
nice\
Hey, someone's hacking the delay
That's not cool
Whoever's hacking the delay, stop. We get it, you can write JS.
It's not funny and it's not cool, we're a small community having fun so act like it.
Not gonna name any names @lyxal
Yeah, we know it's easily exploitable. This is someone's hobby project.
You ruining the fun is just that: ruining the fun
The expectation is that people will follow the rules and not be idiots for the sake of being idiots. Guess what, there's nothing physically stopping you from shoplifting or slapping your grandmother in the face. But you still don't do it.
And server side timing requirements aren't any better, you could just open multiple WS connections
Okay, that's a little unnecessarily rude. But please stop.
04:04
So every time you guys find exploits to something it's okay but when I hace a tiny bit of fun exploiting something for a short amount of time it's not?
@RadvylfPrograms you think?
Okay, sorry. You didn't deserve that.
Thank you
I was a bit annoyed still by some of the early stuff that broke RTO, but that's honestly entirely on me since I was, after all, talking about how great the sandboxing was at preventing that exact sort of thing.
Besides I know what it's like to have art ruined by bots
r/place was full of them
My experimentation just now was to see if I could and to avoid touching others artwork
I'm mostly just annoyed about this instance because it's difficult to reverse and it's kind of painful to see stuff being done quickly when it's taken painstaking effort to draw simple logos in canvas
04:09
i mean from a pretty elementary inspection of the code it's trivial to nuke the whole board in like a few seconds
@RadvylfPrograms But I guess it does achieve the sort of chaotic effect that this project's presumably going for
it's just meant as a bit of fun for the few of us since we're too small to have any impact on the original place
@hyper-neutrino Yeah, I was actually planning to use that as a way to redraw the previous board state after a server reboot. Just send a few hundred messages over the WS, which has the side effect of also looking really cool if you do it over 10s or so
Just be glad it's not the German flag eating up your pixel art
r/place flags are cringe
i complained on like 18 separate occasions about them on discord lol
04:12
@RadvylfPrograms could be a good idea to look into a model-view-controller set up
the only good thing about flags on r/place is the constant attacks on the us one lmao
@lyxal Might want to CC emanresu since I'll mostly only be working on the stuff that's needed to make it compatible with the hosting (given that it's their project)
@RadvylfPrograms alternatively use a bit of request filtering - instead of the canvas doing the job, let the server process the request and determine if enough time has passed
Problem is opening multiple WS connections
Can't believe I'm actually using what I'm learning about Web engineering
04:14
i mean if you want to properly enforce it you'd prob need accounts or smth like that
@RadvylfPrograms check the ip and see if it's made a request in the last 2.5 seconds
i have geography exam
enforcing per ws just makes it slightly more difficult to do the exact same thing
@PyGamer0 no, you're PyGamer0
almost said geography accounts lmao
@hyper-neutrino shit i'm bad at typing
04:15
I guess on a small scale IP stuff does work, although I'd be wary of using it on anything medium or large in scale
(no i'm still PyGamer0)
o/
@lyxal That stuff is actually quite easy to implement
I'd do a 1s IP limit
@PyGamer0 nice :P
That way you still can't spam, but if two people in the same room (or house or school) want to draw at once they're not too limited
04:20
I can just add a closure in the ws.on('connection') listener
It'll allow multiple tabs but there's nothing I can do about that
You can check x-forwarded-for for the IP, you'd need a Map for the timestamps but it probably wouldn't be too hard
I think it's easier to just block on a per-instance basis
But it's also still pretty easily exploitable
I think it'll probably be fine though
Okay. You'll have to backup and load the state with the code I posted in the r/place room.
(So you can edit main.js)
Is it fine if I do that tomorrow
04:27
Sure :P
@hyper-neutrino That's exactly what I made this for :P
Lol someone tried to make a grass block and realised there's no brown
unfortunate
Hyper you're green now
@allxy Me :(
Anyway, going to sleep now o/ (and sorry again @lyxal)
o/
05:09
I am sweaty as frick right now. Just went for walk in very heat kinda tired now
Very yes.
such england
England?
Br*tush?!
Hell no.
s/and/ish
San Dish
05:17
Ca ven dish
Hen ry Ca ven dish
C
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Wh y ar e we tal king like th is
yo ut el lm e
@UnrelatedString I tried to write cave and hit enter too early.
05:22
nic
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The stock photos make it funnier
It was because the cashier put through 80 buckets of ice cream instead of 2
Gotta love tabloid style news amiright
05:40
phenomenal
I've discovered the funniest technoblade video
anyone know what xkcd #2601 supposed to mean: xkcd.com/2601
been listening to it for like 5+ minutes, its just a bunch of gibberish
did someone actually follow it
holy shit
It was a group thing
A sort of r/place
05:56
@emanresuA i discovered it last year
06:26
oh man I've missed being able to have whatever background music I want when watching zoom lectures live
like for example, I can listen to Bach, Prelude in C minor, BWV 934 while the lecture happens, because I'm not a moron.
what was stopping you
not watching it on zoom
being there physically
this is the first time I've watched a zoom lecture in 5 months
06:28
because all semester has been in person
and 3 of those months were also summer break
i've been doing half my classes on zoom this semester and unfortunately it's half of each day
Are you required to attend lectures?
also,
> An iterator will What does that mean?
@lyxal i think some of them are like semi optional but yeah pretty much
yikes
100% of lectures for me are optional
I only attend one a week because it's interesting
the rest I just read the lecture slides
do you attend tutorials?
06:32
only the compulsory ones
and ones that follow compulsory ones
y'all have tutorials? nice
because if I'm there for a compulsory one and I have an optional one a few hours later, I figure I might as well stay
did not know that was a thing in australia
i only tend to go to them for the first couple of weeks and then give up
lecture + workshop time is really time that could be spent on assignments
and assignments is where marks come from
so it's smarter to spend more time on the stuff that's marked instead of stuff that isn't
unless of course it's a compulsory workshop
but luckily those are only for first year courses
so last year I attended all my workshops, but this year, there's only one workshop I have to go to. It's on each friday
so now I no longer like Fridays
at least not friday mornings
fridays used to be cool but now they're just no
ridays. Yes. ikr
and what's worse is that the compulsory Friday workshop is groupwork
thursdays are my shit day this term because i have russian 4 days a week and since the thursday time slot conflicts with another class i have i'm in a different section on thursdays that's like 3 hours earlier
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip
did I mention the friday workshop is on the fundamentals of computer science?
that'd be fine if it wasn't weirdly taught, but it is.
how do they even make group work out of that
with great suffering
2 group reports using LaTeX
the current group report is on how discrete mathematics addresses the needs of algorithms and complexity
and can I just say researching it is pain
06:39
...
yikes
like seriously honestly and truly pain
so much pain
so much pain that I dropped it last year in the first few weeks
meaning this is my second time doing it
oh god, group reports in latex, yikes
there's also a poster to be done in LaTeX too
needless to say, suffering.
and the irony is that I'm doing Software Engineering, which is a different course to Computer Science
yet here I am
still doing fundamentals of computer science
@lyxal oh oh I forgot to add that you're expected to use "peer-reviewed" sources
woo, SE buddies
@lyxal which makes things a real pain when your uni's library search is terrible and all searches for discrete mathematics + algorithms comes up with all these research papers about high level stuff
So I'm calling a Stack Exchange post with 30 upvotes "peer-reviewed"
because on the site it's from, 30 is pretty significant
it's not like here where 30 is a result of a well-placed FGITW
06:47
@allxy petition to add rebeccapurple, lightgrey, dimgrey, darkred
@lyxal I'm not sure that's gonna fly
@pxeger That'll come with v2.0 probably
Along with zooming/scrolling, better mobile support, larger canvas support and possibly a better UI
Also gonna add brown because of this:
@pxeger it'll have to. Finding sources for this assignment causes many headaches, and I don't feel like reliving the headache to find a source for the simple fact I'm referencing
Rip radvylf
Also, try scanning the qr codes lol
@allxy and some brownish colours
Yeah
I could just allow arbitrary RGB but I feel like that'd be too much
Also I've just realised the amount of data compression I've done is kinda (completely) overkill
06:53
@lyxal there's some comic out there or something that proposes a game of finding a published reference for the most simple of facts
i feel like it's an SMBC, but i can never find it
that does sound like an smbc
Also, v2's gonna have some things like a title other than Document and an alert when the websocket disconnects
(If you leave the tab for long enough the websocket appears to just leave the chat)
kinda sus ngl
@RadvylfPrograms I'm sorry for your loss
ha gottem
I'm trying to make osu spell owo
Some... modifications have been made to osu
^^ lol
07:00
stop changing it into an amogus
Not me
perfect
i lovethe fact that the code golf logo is preserved
let it be that way
@allxy can you make it mobile friendly?
At some point
I'll try
Mobile support is hard.
I'd have to design a specific mobile UI because you need to be able to scroll and zoom without tapping
@allxy i mean just make the event listener to handle touch
07:05
It does
pointerdown events
but i have to use 2 fingers to make ot happen
there's probably some way to use the phone's gesture engine
@everyone lets make Mario
but no brown
@PyGamer0 Oh :P
07:07
@UnrelatedString use the closest alternative
I can't really take inspiration from r/place because every 5 minutes is very different from every 2.5 seconds
lol
yeahh
still looking forward to the replay lmao
there is a replay???!!!?!?!?
logging was enabled so eventually probably
ok who is trying to write vyxal bad
evyxal bad?
eyxal bad?
07:16
y'all nerds really can't let me have my B in peace can you
but
lyxal rad
I have managed to place a few tiles on mobile but they're uncontrollable
@UnrelatedString Yeah, more of a happy accident though
perfect.
b...but I'm not
07:20
lyxal dad
Lol
uh, I mean, sure
lyxal ad
Stuff has ... happened ... to semantle
oh, that's what that said originally
Meanwhile I started working on (yet another) Piet editor/interpreter and I'm feeling the pain of setting up frontend JS project again
Oh, that's an idea
We need to put a piet program on canvas
Waiiit, can we?
not enough colours really
07:24
Yeah :(
What colors are supported?
Out of the set that piet uses, red, yellow, lime, blue, black and white.
look at hyper neutrino lmao
ikr
Lime is #00FF00?
07:26
Yes
Output is impossible then
Both OutN and OutC require lightness offset
I was gonna yell at the person messing with the QR code but TIL error correction
So don't mess it up too much :P
everyone lets draw kirby
What template?
Too big
or this
That's pretty good
where should we draw it?
07:34
Wait, that's Bubbler's old avatar, isn't it?
no
idk
IIRC that was bubble kirby
it was bubble kirby
^ that
Looks the same to me, sans hat.
i mean there is bubbles
07:36
The hat is the important part to distinguish between different Kirbys :)
Anyone understand what the ukraine thing is saying?
no
@Bubbler what is your current pfp?
hamster kirby :p
cat kirby
from cat week
Aug 17, 2021 at 23:40, by Bubbler
Quickly googled "cat kirby" and picked the cutest one on page 1
Just a cat(?) holding a kirby ball
@allxy i found ^ lol
as first resuklt
07:40
Lyxal bad has ... changed
Also the trans flag is leaking
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@PyGamer0 Somehow I don't find that one as cute
@allxy lmao wtf
Whoever's doing the water, very nice job making it accurate to physics
The replay is gonna be great
Why did everyone star me quoting the canvas message, but not the original one
07:49
good question
I like this a lot more than r/place
@allxy Because I thought it'd be funny and because I couldn't find the original message. Everyone else followed suit.
Lol :P
alright im making kirby
One person can create something, but it still takes many to create something great
(The qr codes were created by three of my friends over about 20 minutes)
07:51
nice
i got the eyes done
I just realised where you're drawing kirby lol
lmao same
rip rainbowgus
yeah i just figured out how to click properly
on mobile?
07:55
yeah
i hope my newton's cradle animation comes across on the replay
who is extending the rainbow lol

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