The Nineteenth Byte

Radvylf Programs

12:00 AM

I'm sure it could be useful in a few niche cases, but it's only two bytes in that situation anyway

Unrelated String

unless you enforce homogeneous lists in which case padding with type-specific prototype/default values makes sense

Aiden Chow

i have my first ever interview shortly, ahhhhhhhhhhhhh

Radvylf Programs

Interview for what?

(And whatever it is, good luck! :p)

Aiden Chow

tennis instructor assistant :P, i love playing tennis

Radvylf Programs

That's cool, good luck!

Unrelated String

12:08 AM

nice

Radvylf Programs

Okay can anyone see anything wrong with this:

It says my answer's wrong

But I can't figure out why

allxy

Wouldn't that be p=4/3?

Or am I misunderstanding this

Radvylf Programs

You're trying to make a_n/b_n into something you can find the limit of (as x approaches infinity) easily

So making b_n 1/n^{1/2} makes a_n/b_n have the highest thingy on the top and bottom be n^2, so the limit is just 3/4 (the coefficients of the terms with the biggest smol-numbers)

allxy

Shouldn't you be adding the exponents, not multiplying them, though?

Radvylf Programs

Yeah, it's 2/3 plus...wait

frick

I read that as 3/2

gtg but thanks

hits head on wall

Aiden Chow

12:16 AM

uh oh, the guy said that hes not available to speak today, does that mean anything bad or hes just genuinely too busy and cant speak to me

lyxal

What tone did he say it in?

Aiden Chow

@lyxal its through text and its one sentence, not enough to make out a tone

lyxal

@AidenChow what's the sentence?

Aiden Chow

Hey Aiden,

My apologies, something came up yesterday afternoon. Are you able to chat today after 4pm?

Best,

(Interviewer)

that was yesterday

now hes putting the interview off again for tmrw

with very similar wording

i did not even speak to this guy other than through email

lyxal

I'd say that you're still fine.

At this stage you can still plausibly attribute this to horrible scheduling

Aiden Chow

12:23 AM

okok cooool, a bit stressed about this cuz its my first interview =P

lyxal

You say he said similar wording?

What time did he schedule for tomorrow?

Aiden Chow

@lyxal same time as he said for today, about 20 or so minutes ago

12:00 am utc

lyxal

Let me think on that for a bit.

DialFrost

hai guys

i finally got fanatic badge

Aiden Chow

@DialFrost nice!

meanwhile me:

DialFrost

12:32 AM

hehe

Aiden Chow

@lyxal u think im still good or not???

lyxal

@AidenChow The similar wording part makes me wonder if it's some sort of autogenerated email. But I'd still say you're fine. I was thinking that perhaps you could write back asking to meet at 4:10pm instead just to see how he responds. My thinking is that he'll either agree to it suggesting he has genuine intentions to talk, or he'll realise that you're turning up the pressure on meeting when he's fobbing you off, and probably tell you outright if something is wrong.

That's just an idea of what to do

And my logic could be completely wrong

But it's something to consider if you feel you need to

Personally I'd wait and see what happens tomorrow

Because the simplest explanation for unavailability 2 days in a row is terrible planning and or unexpected circumstances

Aiden Chow

@lyxal okok, thats what i was planning to do anyways, thx!

@lyxal well i just realized that maybe its cuz its near the end of work for the interviewer, i think ppl get off work around 4 or 5 pm (thats when my interview is scheduled) ??

DialFrost

got it guys

time to get copy editor

lyxal

@AidenChow tennis lessons don't follow work hours from my experience

It's more likely someone made something like a private booking for 4pm

What time was the email sent?

Because that could give an indication of why the rescheduling happened.

Aiden Chow

12:41 AM

@lyxal the morning after the interview was supposed to happen

lyxal

That suggests to me it was something spontaneous that occurred at 4pm that he didn't have time to tell you about

You're good imo

Aiden Chow

@lyxal okay thx for the insight!!

i feel better knowing that i have not completely fucked up applying for my first job somehow lol

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Radvylf Programs

1:19 AM

@AidenChow An interviewer who no longer has any interest in talking to you wouldn't just put it off indefinitely, since that just means they have to keep talking to you :p. They probably do actually have something that's come up, like lyxal said.

Aiden Chow

@RadvylfPrograms yeah, i suppose that makes sense

just worried that they would just not respond to me or smth

allxy

1:46 AM

@RadvylfPrograms can you unpin the tinylisp stuff?

Radvylf Programs

Should I clear stars too or no?

allxy

@RadvylfPrograms Probably not

Radvylf Programs

Am I missing something or are these the same option?

allxy

@RadvylfPrograms ಠ_ಠ

Aiden Chow

@RadvylfPrograms id rather u not, i want to be able to have an easy access to all the tinylisp resources on the starboard while its still the lang for lyal

allxy

1:49 AM

@RadvylfPrograms Unless there's a minus sign somewhere, yes

Radvylf Programs

Sounds good

@allxy Since it's the absolute value, it's even more confusing

allxy

Oof

Aiden Chow

what does loading the library do on tinylisp ?

Unrelated String

defines stuff

Aiden Chow

like what

Radvylf Programs

1:56 AM

I'm really glad I decided to do my math homework before it was due this time because if I hadn't I'd have been totally unprepared for tomorrow's test lol

lyxal

@AidenChow it's over, so it doesn't matter now

Aiden Chow

@lyxal huh, i thought the lang lasts for two weeks before the next is chosen?

lyxal

nope

LYAL is only 24 hours

des54321

@AidenChow it loads a whole lot of extra (not very golfily named) operators and such, unfortunately theres not really documentation on them besides the code files on github

lyxal

@AidenChow it happens once every two weeks

Radvylf Programs

2:08 AM

@AidenChow You might be mixing up parts of it with Language of the Month, which is a month-long thing similar to LYAL but for all of CGCC

Aiden Chow

@RadvylfPrograms oh yep thats probably it

@des54321 oof, unfortunately i am not an expert enough to understand what is going on in those files :|

ik its tinylisp code, but i cant really understand what its doing

des54321

its less golfy than normal tinylisp code, and most of it is just defining fairly standard mathematical operators and stuff

like the lists file contains a bunch of stuff that youd expect to be able to do with lists, like get their length, get the nth element from a list, some range functions, etc

Aiden Chow

@des54321 that sounds pretty useful actually, considering idk how to code up most of those in tinylisp

Radvylf Programs

2:25 AM

@DLosc Is this a bug in tinylisp?:

Error: could not load tinylisp.tl from //

Not sure why it'd have // as an absolute path

Seems to happen when everything's in /

Which is actually a bug with RTO's Dockerfile, hang on...

lyxal

Got an email today from my uni course on web engineering saying that some of the lecture slides and workshop material they've been using is actually copyrighted elsewhere.

Good job uni 10/10

Radvylf Programs

Okay fixed

You can now use the library in RTO's tinylisp

The only reason you couldn't is that I'm a sussy baka and accidentally copued the contents of tinylisp into the root directory of the container, instead of the directory itself

Wait no I broke everything

Fixed

I copied start into the wrong dir

Anyway, with that fixed, 'night o/

allxy

2:53 AM

o/

allxy

3:14 AM

CMQ: Do you find it satisfying creating something interactive with only CSS and HTML (no JS)?

Bubbler

Why would you torture yourself like that

unless <script> is allowed or at least onclick="..."

allxy

Stuff like a hover tooltip

allxy

4:25 AM

CMQ: Would y'all mind going onto canvas-1209.surge.sh and testing out the UI?

DLosc

@allxy Ah, yes. You've run into one of the main limitations of tinylisp: no lexical scoping. So the func inside the nested lambda cannot reference the func from the outer lambda.

allxy

Ohhh :|

DLosc

@des54321 Nice!

allxy

@DLosc Is it possible to define a macro that does the same thing?

DLosc

@RadvylfPrograms I don't think so, but I remember going back and forth with Dennis adding workarounds to get the library working on TIO, so it's very possible it may have problems in other contexts.

@allxy Yeah, it seems very doable--you probably just have to write your own recursion instead of using map.

When in doubt, combine everything into a single function and then you'll know all the names are in scope. :P

Alternately, you could construct the nested function by hand instead of using lambda, but that would lead to some rather hard-to-understand code.

allxy

4:32 AM

Would that be using the syntax d / def uses or something else?

(q(args)(body)) ?

Ohh waiit...

DLosc

Ultimately, the idea is that every function is just a list with a particular structure. So you want a list that looks like ((val) (_vectorise1 func val)), except you want to replace func with the actual value of func (and then you might need to quote it too). So a certain amount of consing would be required.

allxy

Oh lol.

I'm just going to make a fmap that calls the function with its extra (all but first two) arguments and each element.

The lambda syntax lets you go lambda args to get all arguments as an array - is there a way to reverse that and pass each item of an array to a function?

DLosc

apply in the library does that.

allxy

Oh :)

DLosc

and is also a good, simple example of the "construct some code and eval it" approach mentioned above

PyGamer0

4:39 AM

@DLosc are all things in the library are implemented in tl?

DLosc

Yep!

allxy

I still find that really cool

PyGamer0

and tl is written in python?

allxy

The reference interpreter is in python

Aiden Chow

is there documentation for the library or no

des54321

4:40 AM

@allxy zooming seems to be completely broken for me

Aiden Chow

im having a hard time understanding what any of the stuff do inside it

DLosc

@allxy Me too. :D I love that you can start with such a minimal core language and build up to something quite usable.

allxy

@des54321 What browser/os are you on, and what's happening?

PyGamer0

doesn't bqn also do that? a simple minimal interpreter, and the other builtins are implemented in bqn?

des54321

@allxy firefox and windows 10, pretty sure its the latest firefox

also hold on lets move over to the canvas chat so we arent clogging this one up

allxy

4:42 AM

Kay

DLosc

@AidenChow No... I never got around to that. :/ I will say, there's a particular order in which the functions build on each other. Start with long-names, then utilities, then lists, then metafunctions, then math. (Some of the metafunctions are a bit complicated, so it's okay if you don't understand everything in there.)

PyGamer0

ok i understand tl, def defines a variable and lambda defines an anonymous function

Aiden Chow

@DLosc r u planning to write any documentation or not really?

allxy

@PyGamer0 That's with the library

PyGamer0

???

allxy

4:44 AM

@PyGamer0 I think so

DLosc

@AidenChow Since people seem to be enjoying the language, I'd consider it. One question I have, though: do y'all like tinylisp the way it is, or would you be interested in a sequel with some better features?

PyGamer0

i want a shorter name for the library

Aiden Chow

i would enjoy tinylisp more if i didnt struggle with recursion so much, but thats just a me problem =P. i think the lang is fine the way it is

PyGamer0

maybe lib

and maybe def->let and lambda->def

and maybe make it in c :P

Aiden Chow

@PyGamer0 def is the same as d

DLosc

4:47 AM

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A: Tiny Lisp, tiny interpreter

C (GNU), 1095 bytes Much of the action takes place in the giant v function. Instead of implementing tail recursion explicitly, v is structured so that many of the calls from v to v will be handled by gcc's tail recursion optimization. There is no garbage collection. This makes heavy use of GCC ex...

I don't pretend to be good enough with C to achieve something like that (let alone add garbage collection and other "nice" features), but feel free to make your own version!

des54321

@DLosc I do feel like tinylisp could do with some more features, but I dont think I'm awake enough rn to have very good suggestions

other than making the library more golfy probably

DLosc

One thing to be said about the language as it exists now: it wasn't designed to produce golfy code, but rather to allow a golfy interpreter. There's some overlap between the two goals (single-byte core builtins, for example), but I didn't see a need to shorten the builtins that weren't part of the original challenge, or the library function names, or add golf-specific syntax.

I could make a successor language more golf-friendly, but it'll never compete with actual golfing languages, so in some ways I don't see the point in making it as golfy as it can be. That's the design dilemma.

allxy

Cursed idea: Church numerals in tinylisp

DLosc

And some of tinylisp's ungolfy features actually make golfing it more fun, IMO. For example, it's sometimes an interesting question whether the shorter solution involves using the library (and spending a bunch of bytes to load it) or implementing everything from scratch (and spending more bytes to reinvent some wheels).

allxy

@DLosc I added some flattening functions to lists.tl and made a PR, can you have a look at it please?

Aiden Chow

4:58 AM

@DLosc i think a similar argument can be made about that making it less fun, in that u are essentially forced to create two solutions, one with and one without the library, for every single code, just to see which version is shorter

Bubbler

How to make a language golfy: 1) support libraries 2) make a big fat library

des54321

@Bubbler did you mean: python

Bubbler

no, mathematica

des54321

true

Aiden Chow

what are church numerals

smth to do with religion?

allxy

5:03 AM

Lol no

des54321

@Bubbler because no other language contains a builtin for determining if an image is a goat

allxy

@DLosc In tinylisp, is it possible to define a nameless recursive function?

Aiden Chow

ok well it sounded like a religion kinda thing. uk, church is related with religion and all

allxy

google it

att

why is that cursed

;)

DLosc

5:06 AM

@allxy Sure--I don't have time to give detailed feedback right now, but from a glance at it I'd say looks pretty good. A few points: 1) In library code, I prefer to use long names (head for h, tail for t, nil for ()). 2) I'm not sure about the names--I definitely would like them to be verbs, maybe shallow-flatten and deep-flatten. 3) The (any (map ...)) test is probably not as efficient as writing a lower-level recursion.

@AidenChow Hmm, that's a fair point.

@Bubbler 1) easy enough 2) time-consuming :P

@AidenChow Yeah, it's like how if you have two churches in the same town, one is called "First Church" and the other is called "Second Church" ;)

@allxy No, it has to be named.

hyper-neutrino

@allxy IMO your zoom granularity should be lower (fewer zoom options) and the scroll direction should be reversed (although that could just be because I'm used to up=in), and also holding arrow/WASD or Z/X should move it at a constant pace rather than moving once and then becoming continuous

(which I think you'd have to implement with a setInterval+clearInterval instead of detecting keypress, or at least that's how I've always done it)

allxy

@hyper-neutrino Okay, will do.

@hyper-neutrino I've done some testing and you need to be able to zoom in quite a lot (12x) for it to be usable on mobile

hyper-neutrino

i see. well the main thing is it takes several full wheels to go between min and max which makes it a bit annoying

allxy

5:24 AM

Actually, might be able to change that via scroll delta fiddling

Aiden Chow

5:58 AM

anyone have any final feedback for my piet interpreter challenge before i post to main

att

6:34 AM

@Bubbler is it a "big fat library" if they're all built in

the only package I remember using in golf was Quaternions

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Q: Simplified Piet Interpreter

Background Piet is an esoteric stack-based programming language in which programs are images meant to resemble abstract paintings. To keep the challenge from being unnecessarily complex, you will not have to consider most of the colors present in Piet, which determine what instructions are execut...

pxeger

6:59 AM

@allxy scroll zooming should definitely be inverted

hyper-neutrino

if i have a list of points (i have like 6 but i can generate more), can i calculate a function of the form (x+k)^a+g with some unknown constants k,a,g and how would I do that

Bubbler

Huh?

Is a a positive int?

hyper-neutrino

(i believe my points should fit to a curve like this but i'm not sure)

Bubbler

and is it guaranteed to have a solution?

hyper-neutrino

@Bubbler nope, it's definitely between 0 and 1

i can't guarantee it; it looks like it should work but i'm not certain

for reference i'm trying to reverse engineer a discord bot's XP curve

though it's also not that important if i can't do it, because i don't have to make my own discord bot use the same curve

Aiden Chow

7:03 AM

polynomial interpolation comes to mind, not sure if thats what u r looking for tho

oh between 0 and 1, nvm

Bubbler

Existence of g makes the problem harder

Aiden Chow

maybe try regression in desmos and see what it comes up with ?

hyper-neutrino

i think assuming g = -(k^a) should be valid

Bubbler

A brute force method: try various values of k and g, subtract k from x and g from y of your data points, and see if a log-log plot gives a linear look passing through origin

hyper-neutrino

oh good idea, thanks

allxy

7:22 AM

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Q: How to increase the number of cookies in cookie clicker?

Cookie clicker is a simple and endless game. I can play this game for years.But I want to increase more cookies but don't know how?

pc ios cookie-clicker cookie-clicker-collector the-game-of-life

@pxeger Yeah, done

(I think?)

att

7:42 AM

can try gradient descent

PyGamer0

@AidenChow lmaooooo

Church encoding

In mathematics, Church encoding is a means of representing data and operators in the lambda calculus. The Church numerals are a representation of the natural numbers using lambda notation. The method is named for Alonzo Church, who first encoded data in the lambda calculus this way. Terms that are usually considered primitive in other notations (such as integers, booleans, pairs, lists, and tagged unions) are mapped to higher-order functions under Church encoding. The Church-Turing thesis asserts that any computable operator (and its operands) can be represented under Church encoding. In the untyped...

@allxy can you call a nameless function in tl?

@allxy Try it online! ?

Is C TC????

allxy

8:01 AM

@PyGamer0 That's clever :P

Bubbler

C is practically TC, but theoretically not (because the memory size limit is built into the language)

PyGamer0

Oct 20, 2021 at 8:47, by emanresu A

You don't need that - (lambda x:x(x))(lambda x:x(x))

@Bubbler ok

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Q: Is this propositional formula an instance of an axiom?

Please help me automate my discrete mathematics homework. Given a valid propositional formula, check if it is an instance of one of Łukasiewicz's axioms. Here's how it works. A term can be defined inductively as follows: Single lower-case letters of the Latin alphabet (a, b, c, etcetera) are ter...

code-golf parsing logic

Adám

9:24 AM

APL glyph in today's xkcd:

U+2A0B ⨋ Mathematicians need to calm down

allxy

The one that's sort of :~?

Bubbler

9:43 AM

:/

PyGamer0

tilde diareses

Adám

Yeah ⍨ but the explanation at explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2606:_Weird_Unicode_Math_Symbols is wrong.

PyGamer0

yeah

> Indicates that the logical not operation should be performed on each of the symbols that follow

allxy

aplwiki.com/wiki/APL_Orchard#Emoticons lol

Adám

10:10 AM

@Adám fixed

allxy

Dec 21, 2021 at 14:57, by Adám

I've updated Wikipedia.

Jo King

10:50 AM

Favourite thing of the day: AI trying to spell

5

user

@PyGamer0 i assume they confused it with ~ but that’s still an odd way to pit it

@JoKing lmao what is that

Jo King

huggingface.co/spaces/multimodalart/latentdiffusion + prompt of "the nineteenth byte"

user

Nice site

Seems to be free unlike nightcafe

allxy

Woah

o/

lyxal

Vyxal, apparently.

Me, apparently.

Ai generation be on fleek

Ginger

11:08 AM

hylo

user

11:24 AM

Jo King

never before seen watermarks

oh god, i didn't see the tip of the second hat

PyGamer0

11:43 AM

@user i think here is how the mistake was made: ~ is not, diareses is each, lets combine them into tilde diareses, we get not each!

erikdemaine.org/fonts/tetris/…

Adám

@PyGamer0 Yeah, maybe someone asked somewhere *what does ~" do in APL` and someone thought that was ~¨ — however, monadic ~ is a scalar function and ~¨ doesn't make sense. The dyadic form would however make sense.

Ginger

12:09 PM

@user it's caird

@Adám hey look APL's in the latest XKCD!

Adám

3 hours ago, by Adám

APL glyph in today's xkcd:

⍨

⍨

@RandallMunroe

12:55 PM

@RandallMunjoe

Ginger

Mar 30 at 13:17, by Ginger

24 secs ago, by Ginger

2 days ago, by Ginger

9 secs ago, by Ginger

55 mins ago, by Ginger

wot

user

That’s enough

Of quoting that message i mean, it’s getting pretty big now

Ginger

ok fine

user

1:39 PM

@Ginger lol yeah

Radvylf Programs

ooh my wordle was right-aligned today

⬜⬜⬜🟩🟩
⬜⬜🟨🟩🟩
⬜🟩🟩🟩🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

Since every year in the 20s has so far started with some sort of terrible event, I predict that in January of 2023 Canada will invade the US

Ginger

what have you done

Radvylf Programs

It's only a matter of time

Ginger

you've cursed us all

lyxal

first they claim the moderator positions on stack exchange sites

then they take over the world /s

@RadvylfPrograms also,

Wordle 299 3/6

⬛⬛⬛🟩🟩
⬛⬛🟨🟩🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

I can do that too!

Radvylf Programs

1:54 PM

2024: New Zealand conquers Australia
2025: Mongolia invades China
2026: Sri Lanka takes over India
2027: Hawai'i breaks away from the US and conquers the Pacific
2028: Illinois also does that, and builds an artificial island in the great lakes
2029: Belgium and France team up to wage a long and deadly war against Lichtenstein

Ginger

2030: Black Hat crowbars the US open down the middle

Radvylf Programs

No no no, the 2030s are going to be great

All those stupid icecaps are gonna be gone too

mathcat

2040: Vatican city takes over Italy

Radvylf Programs

2041: Andorra nukes Spain and France

lyxal

2:10 PM

Wordle 300 5/6

⬛⬛🟩⬛🟩
⬛⬛🟩⬛🟩
🟩🟩🟩⬛🟩
🟩🟩🟩⬛🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

that's a big yikes from me

Radvylf Programs

Wordle Tetris

Wetris™

lyxal

Wet ris? Where's the dry ris?

tf you putting water on the ris for?

I prefer my twigs to not be damp thank you very much

Anyhow I think I've invented a new game

GithubWorkflowdle

mathcat

#Worldle #83 4/6 (100%)
🟩🟩⬛⬛⬛➡️
🟩🟩🟩🟨⬛⬇️
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟨↗️
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🎉
https://worldle.teuteuf.fr

oh wait

wrong wordle

damb

lyxal

That's right you american nerd.

*German.

mathcat

actually I'm not german

lyxal

2:15 PM

my point is that you're in the past

Radvylf Programs

Wait is more mathcat lore dropping

lyxal

@mathcat but you're in germany, and that's what I meant

Ginger

oh boy

Radvylf Programs

Just got my 4th yearling badge, now it's official :D

mathcat

@RadvylfPrograms nah lol

not yet

Ginger

2:17 PM

@mathcat so you're telling me there's a chance

mathcat

mayube

lyxal

@Ginger there's also a chance that you're breathing right now. Just saying.

Ginger

~~but computers don't need to breathe~~

lyxal

well now they can.

because I said so.

which means it

s a definite thing

that computers can now breathe

mathcat

@lyxal save the permalink everyone

proof that because of lyxal robots are going to take over the world in 2022

Ginger

2:23 PM

how do you know that they don't already walk amogus

lyxal

because they'd be sus

and because they'd be venting

and because they'd be not doing tasks

and because they'd be the impostor and me and my crewmates would vote them out

anyhow I don't have any stupid stories from early lyxalhood to share, I shall be going to sleep now methinks

o/

mathcat

\o

user

@lyxal You could basically treat humans as computers

Ginger

o/

user

Just really crappy computers

\o

hyper-neutrino

2:34 PM

well it's not that humans are actually weaker than computers just that we have different specializations

so i can't calculate the product of two 256 bit numbers in a second but a computer can't interpret and synthesize language to converse nearly as well as a human child could do

Radvylf Programs

Uh...am I stupid, or are the signs wrong on this "correct" answer?

It'd be -0.556, right? (-1)^1 is -1...

It keeps doing this too

Wtf kind of idiots put the correct answers into this, (-1)^1 is -1 right?!

What am I missing?

Wtf, it did it again

Am I just forgetting how math works, or is there some weird rule I'm forgetting?

Radvylf Programs

3:02 PM

Also this marks your answer as wrong when you don't make certain rounding errors

If you add two numbers you need to add, then round to three digits, it's marked wrong. If you round them both first then add, then it's marked right.

pxeger

@RadvylfPrograms Yes

Radvylf Programs

Is that a "you're right radvylf" or a "you're an idiot radvylf" sort of "yes"

pxeger

You're right

When I need check my sanity with this sort of thing, I write a program: ato.pxeger.com/…

user

3:22 PM

@hyper-neutrino I mean, theoretically you could make a computer do that, we just haven't cracked that yet

@RadvylfPrograms Is this a repeat of that horrid Latin class you had?

Radvylf Programs

No, it's just an online thing we can use for practice

user

Oh ok

Radvylf Programs

I'm in math class now, just asked my teacher and she said they just added this section monday so they're still working out some issues

Like the fact that they don't know how to math

user

Huh, didn't know the Python website had a jobs listing

brb submitting a fake job to troll some Pythonistas

Radvylf Programs

Is the term for a Python user really "Pythonista" regardless of gender?

user

3:26 PM

English doesn't care

Radvylf Programs

Eh, guess so

user

"Python user" is probably the best term for a Python user though

Radvylf Programs

"Pythonist" makes no possible implications about gender and is golfier

user

That is better

DLosc

@RadvylfPrograms Yes; compare barista

user

3:30 PM

> Derived terms
* baristo (hypercorrect masculine form)

Never heard "hypercorrect" before lol

pxeger

> Usage notes
Barista, in Italian, may be used in reference to both men and women. For English speakers cursorily familiar with Italian grammar, it may appear feminine on first encounter, as evidenced by the existence of the hypercorrect derivation baristo, intended as its masculine counterpart

hypercorrection

Noun: hypercorrection (countable and uncountable, plural hypercorrections)

(linguistics) Nonstandard language use that results from the over-application of a perceived prescriptive rule.
(linguistics) A nonstandard form so used.
Synonym: hypercorrectism
hypercorrection f (plural hypercorrections)
hypercorrection

Apr 7 at 7:10, by pxeger

TIL SE chat has Wiktionary oneboxing

DLosc

Are you saying you learned it again today after previously learning it a week ago? :D

pxeger

it's a TIR

Today I Remembered

user

That code looking kinda sus

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Q: Generate all polytriominoes

A polytriomino of size \$n\$ is a contiguous shape formed by joining \$n\$ equilateral triangles side by side. Your output should consist of two distinct characters, plus whitespace as necessary (▲ and ▼ work great!). Trailing whitespace is acceptable. You may use any other characters - but you...

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user

3:35 PM

@user This doesn't work

Why do they have a string as a function parameter?

The whole thing is just confusing

Ginger

where did you find it?

user

wiki.python.org/moin/MarathiLanguage

I was pleased to find what I thought were Python docs written in Marathi but it's just odd

Like it was auto translated, except it can't have been auto translated because the examples for each language are different

@user Okay, I think I get it now, the second function is a translation of the first. But the first isn't all English either, and the second function is in Hindi, not Marathi

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