The Nineteenth Byte

Ginger Industries

20:05

@taRadvylfsriksushilani petition to make The Firing Range the official RTO room

(I already added you as a mod)

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Hmm, I'll consider it

Ginger Industries

better then no

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

We did have one already:

Make you a TIO Clone for Great Good

But it got frozen again lol

Ginger Industries

but it freezy

@taRadvylfsriksushilani and The Firing Range also has not only a snazzy name, but a bot!

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Fine, it can be the official room

Ginger Industries

20:09

@taRadvylfsriksushilani (^▽^)

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Q: Inside of my Javascript program, I keep getting a console message telling me that my ellipse() function is a reserved function

Inside of my Javascript program, I keep getting a console message telling me that my ellipse() function is a reserved function. I use a for loop and an array to simulate bullets, and the program works completely fine except this message that isn't an error. Is there a way to hide this message or ...

javascript

pxeger

20:25

@NewPosts the VTC-ometer is too damn low

can we get a fifth, and maybe some butter?

Ginger Industries

@pxeger @GingerBot now's your chance

pxeger

?

DLosc

@GingerIndustries Sorry, ninja'd :P

Ginger Industries

butter 'em up

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

20:50

I hate when I accidentally dump tens of thousands of lines to my terminal

pxeger

Every now and then I accidentally cat a large binary file

that can be even more annoying when it fucks up the screen completely and you have to reset or restart the terminal

Aaroneous Miller

I just got a cool idea for Descend (my golfy markdown flavor with built-in scripting). You can make a link like normal with [text](url), but you can make a button with [text]{script}, and it will execute the script when the button is clicked.

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pxeger

ooh, yeah, you know what a markdown parser really needs? An embedded javascript parser!

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

@AaroneousMiller That's super cool

Also, just shrank a rust binary from 11 MB to 344 KB with strip lol

Aaroneous Miller

@pxeger essentially, yes

pxeger

21:00

@taRadvylfsriksushilani have you tried github.com/upx/upx? Or is size not quite that important to you? (upx is kinda pointless IMO)

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Size isn't that important, no

But 10 MB seemed a bit excessive lol

pxeger

how many SLoC?

roughly

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Q: Verify a Superpowerset

A superpowerset (analogous to superpermutation) on n symbols is a string over the alphabet {1,2,...,n} such that every subset of {1,2,...,n} appears as a substring (in some order). For instance, 12342413 is a superpowerset on four symbols because it contains 1, 2, 3, 4, 12, 13, 41, 23, 24, 34, 12...

code-golf combinatorics

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

139 lines of code, so I'd guess around 100 sloc

pxeger

that does seem like a large binary for such little code

are you using lots of dependencies or something?

Wezl - y izl

21:03

@pxeger easier solution is just to disallow some code e.g. /\[[^\]]*\]{[^}]+}. Maybe also with multi-line code like

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Relatively many for 100 sloc, yeah. But Rust's statically linked, so it's not that bad.

pxeger

TIL rust is statically linked by default

Wezl - y izl

[text]{
  code
  ends when a line with a single } with indentation matching the opening line is reached
    }
  ^ that doesn't end the code block
}
^ that does

pxeger

@Wezl-yizl an indentation-based syntax would be a lot simpler, yeah

Wezl - y izl

less magical solution that also fits with the existing markdown syntax would be to allow backtick-fenced code blocks inside of {}

Ginger Industries

21:07

@AaroneousMiller hey this sounds like SpamScript, my never-actually-implemented scripting-based text formatter!

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

I've been working on a text format called BITF for the last few years, off and on.

It's ASCII compatible, with the unused 160 characters used as opcodes for a turing complete programming language

Ginger Industries

@taRadvylfsriksushilani ಠ_ಠ

gimme a sec, i'm going to try to find the SpamScript docs

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

It's actually a really fun and uncursed idea

Aaroneous Miller

@GingerIndustries I'm curious

Ginger Industries

@AaroneousMiller found em!

Aaroneous Miller

21:13

@pxeger I suppose I should mention that the scripting isn't just going to be straight JS, it will be a JS-like-but-hopefully-better-but-probably-cursed scripting language designed to work with the features of the Descend markdown flavor

Wezl - y izl

fun

Ginger Industries

yea it sucks

but you get the idea right?

keep in mind this is from like 2018

Aaroneous Miller

It's a neat idea, do you have any example programs? The examples section is blank

Ginger Industries

uh

I've got a hello world

Aaroneous Miller

lol

Ginger Industries

21:19

+~ {This is a SpamScript Hello World program.}
Hello World!+"enter"I can writee+"backspace"SpamScript programs! 1 + 1 is: +[math add (1 1)]
+~ {Expected output: Hello World! (newline) I can write SpamScript programs! 1 + 1 is: 2}

Aaroneous Miller

So it's kind of somewhat similar to AHK?

Ginger Industries

???

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

AutoHotkey

Ginger Industries

oh. yup

Aaroneous Miller

cool

DLosc

21:26

@taRadvylfsriksushilani This is Charcoal :P

Aaroneous Miller

Is it ok to have <> characters inside of <code> tags, or should they be replaced with < and >?

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

I think technically you're allowed to have >s, but best practice is to replace both with & thingies

> In 1943 the Austrian resistance group around Heinrich Maier managed to send exact drawings of the V-2 rocket to the American Office of Strategic Services. Location sketches of V-rocket manufacturing facilities, such as those in Peenemünde, were also sent to the Allied general staff in order to enable Allied bombers to carry out airstrikes. [...] The group was gradually captured by the Gestapo and most of the members were executed

Someone needs to make a movie about this

Bgil Midol

21:47

Feedback?

Aaroneous Miller

22:00

Converting markdown to html by hand is the absolute worst

user

22:31

I just had the scariest moment of my life: I clicked on a JSON file, expecting it to open in Notepad or Notepad++ or VS Code, and then the loading thingy for Visual Studio came up

Luckily, I was able to slay the beast through Task Manager in time

Bgil Midol

whats wrong with visual studio?

user

It would've taken a very long time to load and slowed my computer a bit

I was exaggerating, it really wasn't something to be scared about

Unrelated String

i remember how back on my mac xcode claimed a bunch of random shit
i could never remember what until it was too late

DLosc

@BgilMidol Is it possible to write any series of slices as a single slice? Seems like maybe it should be.

Bgil Midol

@DLosc no

Fmbalbuena

22:46

Hello

Just Hello

DLosc

E.g. [::-1][2::6] is the same as [-3::-6] I believe (TIO)

Fmbalbuena

@DLosc Yeah this is correct

DLosc

@BgilMidol Do you have an example that can't be rewritten that way? (I realize the burden of proof should be on me, but if you can prove me wrong easily that'll save some time :P)

Fmbalbuena

@DLosc [::-1][2::6][0] can be [-3::-6][::1][0] I guess

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Huh, TIL aforestation, the opposite of deforestation, can also be a big environmental issue

DLosc

22:53

@taRadvylfsriksushilani <latin-pedant>That's afforestation with two f's: ad + forestation, not a(b) + forestation</latin-pedant>

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Of course you just had to wait until the 2m edit time was up :p

TIL the trees everyone's called cedar trees here for my entire life are actually juniper

DLosc

@taRadvylfsriksushilani I wasn't sure, so I looked it up on Wikipedia first

Bgil Midol

@DLosc how would you compress [:-4][::2][2:][::5]?

Fmbalbuena

@BgilMidol I will compress

Probably [::2][2:] can be [2::2]

[2::2][::5] can be [4::5] I guess

Lastly, I can't think [:-4]

Bubbler

@Fmbalbuena Both are wrong

[::2][2:] is [4::2] and [4::2][::5] is [4::10]

Fmbalbuena

23:01

@Bubbler Oops sorry

Start at 4, Move 10 steps and remove the first 4 elements

I think [16::10]

Bubbler

[:-4][4::10] would be likely [4:-4:10], not 100% sure though

DLosc

@Bubbler Looks correct

In playing around with it more, I'm starting to think there might be some combinations that can't be simplified without referring to the length of the iterable, though

Bubbler

I guess some cases involving negative indices cannot be simplified without knowing the original list's length

DLosc

Like [42:5:-3][-8::2] maybe

Bubbler

Yeah, something like that

Fmbalbuena

23:16

@DLosc I can simplify

Bubbler

Nonnegative indices are mathematically well-defined and should be composable no matter what

betseg

Fmbalbuena

@betseg ???

Unrelated String

simple one that i think i've actually seen come up several times: [::-2][::-1]

i think you'd pretty much have to have the parity of the length to do that in one slice

Bubbler

Good one

Unrelated String

23:24

thanks

betseg

@Fmbalbuena wdym "???"

Fmbalbuena

@betseg Why you post issues like that?

betseg

a) that's not me that's a funny image i found
b) issues like what?

@Fmbalbuena i honestly dont understand what you mean

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

It's likely a language barrier thing

Fmbalbuena

@betseg I said you "post"

Unrelated String

23:38

issue might be referring to the issue in the screenshot in which case i guess he just doesn't get why it's funny

which is confusing in and of itself

i was talking about you

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

I made it through a whole school day without having to charge my new laptop! Estimated 13 hours of battery life go brrr

Unrelated String

nice

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

I guess one advantage of the 3:2 screen resolution is it makes the whole laptop a bit taller, which means there's more room beneath the keyboard for a bigger battery

user

That equation's apparently not supposed to have the second fraction, so instead of trying to understand the problem I'm going to just fudge it and somehow delete it along the way :P

Ginger Industries

UPDATE: My package has reached "On the Way"

Fmbalbuena

23:53

@GingerIndustries What is that?

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

A large anti-aircraft gun and a 1.5 tonne gummy bear

Ginger Industries

what makes you think that

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

lol idk you never confirmed or denied either

Ginger Industries

by "on the way" I think it means "on the way to a UPS facility"

@taRadvylfsriksushilani and I still won't.

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