The Nineteenth Byte

Steffan

12:06 AM

@Ginger What on earth are those bots for

Steffan

3:51 AM

I just realized that I always have CGCC zoomed at 67%

Whew that is huge at 100%

Aiden Chow

@Steffan ok bruh

That is a facepalm right there

Steffan

what percentage do u have it at

100% is honestly massive

meanwhile my dad views everything at like 300% lol

Aiden Chow

Ok what I have it at the regular 100%

Steffan

bruh

Aiden Chow

U telling me 100% zoom is not normal?

Steffan

4:03 AM

lmao

SE chat is at 90%

it does depend on ur screen size some too

Aiden Chow

I’m on a desktop monitor screen

Steffan

same

Aiden Chow

Bruh ok

PyGamer0

4:33 AM

i keep my zoom at 500%

here is how it looks

DialFrost

5:08 AM

@RadvylfPrograms@lyxal

I would like to personally thank u guys for the luck :3 (my paper just finished)

Unrelated String

5:30 AM

@PyGamer0 gorgeous

this is amazing

lyxal

@DialFrost np

DialFrost

@lyxal the paper 2 (structured) turned out to quite easy :3

PyGamer0

CMQ: Which golflang is the fastest?

(apart from [mj]yxal)

lyxal

@DialFrost well, that's pretty good

PyGamer0

6:09 AM

java has wrapper classes.... isn't that just bad language design?

mousetail

Java is bad language design

emanresu A

Says the PHP developer

mousetail

PHP is worse for sure

I don't program PHP by choice

DialFrost

6:33 AM

What does everything think of this idea? codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/25183/…

mousetail

6:51 AM

Good idea but very unlikely to happen

DialFrost

hmm

Adam's answer seems quite good

mousetail

I would want to edit the ones that are only for specific tags to make that move obvious

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Infinite Integer Derivative We can consider the derivative of a integer sequence to simply be the difference between each element and the next: 1 5 8 13 2 4 3 5 -11 Note this will produce a sequence one shorter than the original. If we prepend the initial value we have perfectly describe...

emanresu A

8:51 AM

CMC: is an integer array a geometric sequence?

(note: You can assume it's increasing)

DialFrost

9:07 AM

Quick qns how do I add a space into equations?

emanresu A

\text{ } works

DialFrost

ah tysm!

emanresu A

(adding more spaces also works)

DialFrost

It does?

emanresu A

(as in, adding multiple spaces within the \text{ }

DialFrost

9:19 AM

oh

ic

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10:06 AM

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Partial fractions code-golf Given an input of a string, output the partial fraction in string form. The partial fraction decomposition of a rational fraction of the form where f and g are polynomials, is its expression as: Input: In the form of an entire string: (x+4)/(x+3)^2 Output: In the fo...

graffe

In Python, how do I print to two significant figures so that 231254.46 become 230000 ?

(It's not called significant figures but hopefully the question is clear)

and 23124.2367 becomes 23000

CMC Given a positive floating point number, round to the nearest integer, print the first (up to) two digits and pad the rest with zeros.

so 23124.2367 becomes 23000

and 231254.46 become 230000

mathcat

10:40 AM

237254.46 would still be 230000?

New Posts

10:57 AM

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Q: Number to String in aaaaa way!

In this Challenge, You are going to take a number and turn it to a String, but not in the common way, Actually in aaaaa way. aaaaa way, Is simply writing the letter in the English alphabet With the index We have until 9(for example a for 1, 2 for b and ... 9 for i) in 5 letters string. For exampl...

mathcat

dupe?

graffe

11:42 AM

@mathcat yes.. but I have a more interesting version to worry about :)

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12:14 PM

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Q: Mimic R's print(x, digits=n)

In R print(x, digits=n) does something a little complicated. It always shows all the digits to the left of the decimal point and then, if there are any digits to the right it rounds the whole number so that at most n digits are shown. However a solitary 0 to the left of the decimal point is not c...

code-golf

thejonymyster

@DLosc i dont get it, is this a reference to something :-)

Ginger

@thejonymyster you just need to... shift your perspective a little bit :p

you'll hate me once you get the joke

thejonymyster

-.-

Ginger

do you get it

thejonymyster

im going back to bed *leaves work and goes home*

Ginger

12:22 PM

HAHAHAAAAAA

thejonymyster

i was like is this some syntax joke is there a language that uses 8s of all things

goddam. a kee board joak

Ginger

LMAO

@Steffan they do unit testing for the sechat module

Seggan

@PyGamer0 [MJ]yxal

lyxal

@thejonymyster dah frick

Ginger

DO YOU GET IT LYXAL

thejonymyster

12:30 PM

fryxal

lyxal

@Ginger yes

and I don't know how I feel about it

Ginger

in Sandbox, 8 secs ago, by Ginger

I REGRET ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. THAT WAS THE BEST PUN I HAVE MADE THIS MONTH.

mathcat

well I still don't get it

I just see an emoticon

Ginger

oh, you'll get it

Ginger

12:43 PM

feedback on codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/a/25200/108218?

thejonymyster

@Ginger more examples of different lengths :P also maybe clarify that the triplets cant overlap cause you know someone will ask

even though theres no reason they ever would gfdsg

graffe

@Adám Thank you for the test cases

New Posts

1:05 PM

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Q: print(x, digits=n) gives different results in different places

Take these two examples: print(687.7, digits = 3) 688 and also > print(matrix(1000*runif(60),nrow=5),digits = 3) [,1] [,2] [,3] [,4] [,5] [,6] [,7] [,8] [,9] [,10] [,11] [,12] [1,] 210 27.5 702 628 180 981 562 614 256 998 202 721.5 [2,] 818 113.0 138 249 460 680 883 355...

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graffe

oops

sorry.. deleted

@mousetail thanks :)

mousetail

1:17 PM

Have you ever found that defining functions in java-script normally is boring?

(a,b)=>console.log(a,b) is lame. Try

(...[a,b])=>console.log(a,b) Or

(...[...[a,b]])=>console.log(a,b)

You can nest this a infinite number of times for infinite fun. Enjoy

py3programmer

Stop at one nest, and then the fun becomes finite.

Unless the computer is the one nesting it.

mousetail

Nah I only stop at infinite nestings

thejonymyster

now you can have arbitrarily large amounts of fun: eval("("+"...[".repeat(n)+"a,b"+"]".repeat(n)+")=>console.log(a,b)")

py3programmer

Seriously?

thejonymyster

seriously.

I would never lie about arbitrarily large amounts of fun

py3programmer

1:20 PM

You manually waste the rest of your time on Earth nesting a function @mousetail?

Radvylf Programs

It's not a waste when it makes you happy

py3programmer

Well @thejonymyster It might be embarrassing for you, but I wasn't talking to you.

Radvylf Programs

They say, find a job that makes you happy. If I get paid $800/hr to nest brackets with professional accuracy and quality, then I think I've succeeded.

thejonymyster

@py3programmer I wasnt talking to you either. i was talking to my imaginary friend py3programmerwhotalkstome

:P this is silly though

mousetail

I'm not talking to you either

thejonymyster

1:22 PM

damn nobody talking to me

deleting my account

mousetail

No not you, I'm talking to you. But not you

Radvylf Programs

I'm not talking to any of y'all I just left my speech-to-text on and I've been discussing an identical topic with my friends at the exact same time as, but indepently of, y'all

thejonymyster

radvylf doing the bluetooth phone call earpiece thing lol

there was a skit on youtube someone showed me a while back where it was like, a dude sat near people having phone calls, responded to the things they were saying, but pretended it was part of an unrelated phone call

mousetail

I've seen that

Radvylf Programs

That sounds hilarious

thejonymyster

1:24 PM

cmc koth win at social situations

lyxal

vtc as impossible

mousetail

koth friends

thejonymyster

@RadvylfPrograms did you say this to us or your friends

Radvylf Programs

Both

(I was asked this by both you, my friend Jimmy, and thejonymyster, we're in identical conversations again, sorry)

thejonymyster

its like one of those "youre so vain you think this song is about you" situations where it doesnt make sense no matter who it's being said to

Wezl'

1:30 PM

koth because of course winning must make others lose

5

Radvylf Programs

Can someone introduce an external stimulus to only one group of us so that entropy causes the conversation to rapidly diverge from its original topic?

Wezl'

that is a fascinating idea

alright whenever I post a link I assume only some of you will click it

thejonymyster

CMC: given a list of words, produce an acronym

lyxal

@RadvylfPrograms Jimmy? As in Slipping Jimmy?

thejonymyster

hard mode: given an acronym, produce a list of words

Wezl'

1:33 PM

@thejonymyster ->{"AA"}

>:)

mousetail

@Wezl' Ah yes, toxic friendships are the best ones

Radvylf Programs

@thejonymyster s=>s.split(" ").map(w=>w[0]).filter(x=>x<'_').join("")

Wezl'

@thejonymyster k: *'

Radvylf Programs

@thejonymyster d=>a=>[...a].map(c=>d.filter(w=>w[0]==c.toLowerCase())).map(w=>w[Math.random()*w.length|0]).join(" ")

Takes an argument d first which is the dictionary

lyxal

@RadvylfPrograms you tell Jimmy I know what they are, what they were, that people don't change, and that they are Slipping Jimmy. And make sure to also tell them that Slipping Jimmy I can handle just fine but Slipping Jimmy with a Law Degree is a Chimp with a Machine Gun!

Radvylf Programs

1:36 PM

tfw you try to turn up your laptop volume to make the overhead speakers at school louder

(My Physics teacher is super cool and lets us pick the music that plays, and Foundations came on :p)

mousetail

Stair enamel seems realistic

thejonymyster

@RadvylfPrograms lmao is there a word for "trying to control device A with the controls for device B"? cause this happens to me all the time

Radvylf Programs

Welcome to the Croquette-Girding-Coupon-Compromised Stair Enamel, everyone

thejonymyster

i miss the pickpocketing

mousetail

Was that your past hobby?

Radvylf Programs

1:41 PM

Yeah, before our site got renamed by the feds, we had a pretty good ring going on

mousetail

Oh so the golf is a coverup?

Radvylf Programs

We were really proactive about stealing our months' profit, since we had a large crew, which we'd discuss using a coded Unicode glyph

mousetail

Makes sense, rich people like to golf and being a criminal requires good connections

thejonymyster

sad we got compromised

@mousetail yeah i go on this site to network with my quality programming skills. Dyalog is hiring i hear :P

Radvylf Programs

We were led by a real genius, graduated top of his class at Macrophage Intractability Tuber

mousetail

1:43 PM

Adam is the victim, rest of us all all pickpocketers

Radvylf Programs

Adám eventually had to sell his pockets in order to stay financially stable

Which led to a confusing series of events that led him to discover APL

Ginger

I have a giant collection of Adám's pockets in my closet

thejonymyster

that sounds like a lot... how do you even pick

how does a pickpocket pick pockets to pick

Ginger

I have an automated picker that can remove hundreds of pockets at once

lyxal

checks pockets to make sure they're still there

mousetail

1:45 PM

Women have a secret advantage

lyxal

Ight which one of you nerds stole my pockets

Ginger

who do you think

Radvylf Programs

@mousetail No, they just already got their pockets stolen

mousetail

Makes sense

thejonymyster

we take the pockets, but leave the money

do you know how much pockets go for on the slack market

Radvylf Programs

1:46 PM

Money can be bought. Pockets are forever.

mousetail

Oh evil, then you need to use one hand to carry your money always

lyxal

@Ginger I think it was gnat

Ginger

@RadvylfPrograms ooh I love Croquette Girding Coupon Compromised, saw them open for Correct Horse Battery Staple

thejonymyster

@Ginger CHBS -> Code Half Byte Sheet

mousetail

The irony is that "Correct Horse Battery Staple" is actually a very common password nowadays thus very weak

Radvylf Programs

1:47 PM

My favorite band is Miseries Crassly Repeals, been listening to Acupuncture Firefighter Incontinently too recently

thejonymyster

whenever i need a really secure password i end up repeating the word horse in it quite a few times because of that stupid comic

Radvylf Programs

CGCCiscool#1horsehorsehorse

Boom identity thefted

mousetail

@thejonymyster Good to know

Ginger

presenting, the optimal password: horse horse horse horse 1283 horse horse 4467 88*7

Radvylf Programs

@RadvylfPrograms This paints a pretty funny image

mousetail

1:48 PM

My password is:

deF\u2081\u1e8e\u019b\u208d\u2082\u2083\u00ab-\u2207j\u20ac\u208cp\u00ab\u2308\u01d0*\u2211\u2234\n", "\u027e\u2022\n", "\u00ab\u019b4-\u0280W\u1e6a\u00ab=[\u00bb|\u022eW\u00bc\u2229r\u00b6\u201bv\u2190^\u01d4\u1e60l\u022f\u00a6U4;o\u2192\u2084v\u2082V\u228dcb\u

thejonymyster

@mousetail doesnt mean youre gonna get it from just that; ive used entire song verses as passwords (with varying case per character)

and thats before the digits and special characters :P

mousetail

@thejonymyster Good to know

Ginger

why tf are my messages so slow to send

thejonymyster

@mousetail OTL

lyxal

@thejonymyster on the lols?

mousetail

1:50 PM

I love how John explains how his information is useless by giving me more private information

thejonymyster

:P ill never tell you my username

mousetail

Whats your brith date?

Ginger

@mousetail ~~I honestly, truly didn't think you would fall for that.~~

Radvylf Programs

THESharPEstlIVEsARetheDEaDLIesttOleAD*horsehorsehorse

thejonymyster

@mousetail they still do those?

lyxal

1:51 PM

@Ginger ~~this is the part where I pwn you~~

mousetail

@Ginger The funny thing is that when people try to provide false information they tend to still think in the general area their brain associates with passwords, making it still valuable information

thejonymyster

pls just whatever you do dont delete my neopets

mousetail

Take 5 bytes of one of my answers and they will be spared

thejonymyster

@mousetail its really a nerd snipe since youll be spending all your time trying to get your password stealer to be optimized to my ridiculous tendencies

Radvylf Programs

@thejonymyster I will abscond with their pockets and no more

mousetail

1:53 PM

:/

In middle school I know literally everyone's passwords

mostly by just looking over their shoulders when they typed

thejonymyster

@mousetail My passwords always end with a number that disproves collatz's conjecture

mousetail

My password is a algorithm that converts any NP problem to a P problem

thejonymyster

@mousetail your password is x=>x?

Ginger

@thejonymyster oh yeah? my password is the last digit of pi

lyxal

My password is the name of the President of America in 2078

mousetail

1:55 PM

@thejonymyster Prove it

thejonymyster

@mousetail your password has an algorithm that can convert any np problem to a p problem, therefore p=np, therefore x=>x is an algorithm that converts any np problem to a p problem

Ginger

oh my god

mousetail

@thejonymyster I didn't say it converts the NP problem to P in polynomial time

thejonymyster

yes but you thunk it

mousetail

It might take EXPTIME you never know

thejonymyster

1:57 PM

*clears throat* aint nobody got exptime for that

anybody working on any crazy golfs :-)

mousetail

Fun fact: P?=NP is famously unsolved but the equivalence of many other computational classes is also unknown. Like NC?=P, P=co-NP, BPP=BQP etc.

maybe solving one of the easier ones will give us the tools to finally solve P=NP?

graffe

it's not even known if P = polyspace

Ginger

sure, I'll add that to my todo list

graffe

which is crazy

Radvylf Programs

If P=P and NP=NP, then === and thus P== and NP==, and since P===NP, P=NP

@graffe Polyspace?

graffe

2:02 PM

PSPACE

Radvylf Programs

As in polynomial space?

Oh nvm

graffe

PSPACE

In computational complexity theory, PSPACE is the set of all decision problems that can be solved by a Turing machine using a polynomial amount of space. == Formal definition == If we denote by SPACE(t(n)), the set of all problems that can be solved by Turing machines using O(t(n)) space for some function t of the input size n, then we can define PSPACE formally as P S P A C E = ⋃ k ∈...

P = PSPACE is a much more interesting question in my view

mousetail

Less interesting only because less prize money

graffe

:)

you would get untold riches if you sold the result to a govt

or put in jail

one or the other

mousetail

Probably the later

graffe

2:04 PM

Google might be a better option

mousetail

I really wouldn't want google to be the first to know

graffe

hm.. who?

mousetail

Maybe "sell" it to google but then break my contract and tell everyone anyways but burn my money so they can't take it back. Then go to jail

graffe

all routes end in jail I see

mousetail

Yep :/

Ginger

2:06 PM

that's just the risk you take when you decide to sell the secrets of the universe

graffe

I see that if you print a matrix in R with digits=n the rules are even crazier

it tries really hard to make it pretty

mousetail

Or maybe P=PSPACE is the answer to the life, the universe, and everything and the universe resets when the answer has been found

this time with a more challenging problem

graffe

of course there could be a proof that P=PSPACE with no practical consequences at all

a bit like 42

thejonymyster

me waking up in the new universe and having to figure out if P^2=@=NNP

=@= is an operator we dont have here yet

mousetail

Or we could prove P!=PSPACE and it would change nothing

thejonymyster

2:08 PM

nice

graffe

@mousetail yep.

mousetail

It seems the only way to avoid jail though, since nobody would really care

graffe

it's same with P = NP. If I proved it tomorrow it doesn't change anything

it only changes things if I also find a fast algorithm for everything in NP

mousetail

Proving P=NP proves a fast algorithm exists

you don't necessarily need to find the algorithm, just prove it's existence

graffe

@mousetail not really. It proves a polynomial time algorithm exists. Say I find an n^20 algorithm for anything in NP

it's useless

@mousetail right but proving its existence doesn't change anything in practice

mousetail

2:11 PM

N^20 would still make some currently unsolvable problems solvable with current computational limits

Plus if a N^20 exists chances are it can be improved over time to be better

graffe

@mousetail I am not sure that is right. Can you think of one?

@mousetail take factoring. 1024^20 is much too large

@mousetail yes that is the hope but there is no reason to really believe it is true

for what input size n is n^20 computable?

mousetail

Basically for problems like factoring it would slightly improve the values of N that are practical to compute

graffe

n has to be less than 10 certainly as 10^20 is too large

@mousetail no that's not right

we can factor 500 bit numbers now but 500^20 is much too large

mousetail

True, but that's because the exponential algorithms used have a very low constant

graffe

well sort of

but really assume your exponential time algorithm takes 2^n time

when is n^20 less than 2^n?

it certainly is when n =1 :)

it isn't when n = 2

mousetail

2:16 PM

You'd need like 30 I think

graffe

nope.. 30^20 is much bigger than 2^30

mousetail

Still it will scale better as computer become better

graffe

no

n has to be over 143

this means that the code would take at least 143^20 time

which is more than 12785589283244544365936086134520496196408001
steps

we ain't getting computers able to do that ever :)

mousetail

Quantum computers :)

graffe

they don't help at all

the point is that P=NP is only useful it also comes with an n^a algorithm where a is small, for example less than 5 or 6

mousetail

2:20 PM

I hold that it stays useful even if it's 10 or 15

Ginger

here's an idea: what if I made my own online code execution service thing and called it "Evaluate Stuff Online"

graffe

let's do the math @mousetail

say n^10

so when is n^10 smaller than 2^n?

mousetail

Not all problems are 2^n, some are worse

graffe

which ones are you thinking of?

travelling salesman is better than 2^n

as is factoring

mousetail

graph coloring

wait no, that's 2^n * n

graffe

2:23 PM

@mousetail 3 or 4 coloring is faster than that

but k coloring for large k is slower I think

mousetail

Yea I'm talking about k-coloring

graffe

2.4423^n ?

I am just reading the wiki

I don't know that algorithm

thejonymyster

@mousetail n2^n? or 2^(n^2)

mousetail

(2^n)*n

according to wikipedia sidebar

graffe

the exact algorithms section has 2.4423^n

mousetail

2:27 PM

(2^n)*n is less though I think. Must be a different algorithm

o/

hi!

I'm that new vyxaler

Hi guys

just started going on code.golf

mousetail

Fun

Can you write 1500 Vyxal answers for me please, I need more training data?

Pacmanboss256

2:39 PM

hmmmmmm maybe

i have class sometimes

mousetail

You have 1 week, so no rush

Pacmanboss256

what lol

ive done 13 in the last week

mousetail

I'm mostly joking

Unlike Jo King who is always Jo King

Pacmanboss256

😎

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Mario brick Block In honor of the upcoming Mario movie, print this brick block art in the fewest characters possible. ._____. |__|__| |_|_|_| !__|__! Scoring It's code-golf, so fewest bytes wins.

Razetime

3:35 PM

thinking of making a nibbles runner. pythonanywhere supports haskell right?

Ginger

why not add it to ATO/RTO?

Radvylf Programs

Because RTO isn't working yet and ATO doesn't allow custom langs?

Ginger

??? pxeger is accepting new langs for ATO

Radvylf Programs

Yeah but you can't add it yourself

> why not add it to ATO

isn't just something you can do

Ginger

sorry, poor phrasing

thejonymyster

3:38 PM

probably intended "why not (try to have it be added) to ATO"

Ginger

^ exactly

thejonymyster

in contrast to doing pythonanywhere or what-have-you

Radvylf Programs

Ah. Would've assumed that except "ATO/RTO" kinda implies it'd be the same process for both.

mousetail

I need BRO: Back Rubs Online

thejonymyster

just caught myself a big ol fish. Fry It Online!

Ginger

3:43 PM

need a funky t-shirt? Dye It Online!

thejonymyster

got a lot of feelings you need to let out? cry

Ginger

...It Online!

thejonymyster

:-)

im hype for custom language uploading w rto

it will be so pogger

Radvylf Programs

120 years fly by before you could escape an infinite scroll? Die online!

Ginger

need to encrypt some data? Steganify It Online!

thejonymyster

3:45 PM

stegan? isnt that a user here

Radvylf Programs

LDQ: How reasonable is it to do ordering of complex numbers based on a + b (for a + bi)?

That ensures the reals compare normally, and reals multiplied by i also compare normally

Ginger

Trying to balance a delicious treat on a tightrope? Pie On Line!

thejonymyster

@RadvylfPrograms how about their distance from 0 but signed

Radvylf Programs

Signed how

thejonymyster

good question

Radvylf Programs

3:59 PM

I guess you could do the real part's sign if the complex one's zero, and vice versa, it doesn't matter if both are zero since the magnitude is zero, and if both are nonzero, the product of the signs

thejonymyster

i just figure it could be more useful if youre using complex numbers as like vectors or something :P plus itd still have the properties you described

like, it retains more information, slightly

wait does it

:P now im not sure

what language is this for btw

Radvylf Programs

No clue. But I'm working on an arbitrary precision complex number library for a golfing language of...some sort I guess lol

thejonymyster

4:16 PM

incroyabl

well, excited to see what becomes of it :-)

CMP: in general, how many bytes do you mentally draw the line as being a short answer vs a long answer (or any lines drawn in between)

Wezl'

definitely different for golfing and non-golfing

maybe around 10 for golfing and a bit more than 100 for javascript and python

not to say that 110 is often comparable to a 10-byter in a golfing language

DLosc

4:33 PM

@thejonymyster How many pockets would a pickpocket pickpocket if a pickpocket could pick pockets?

Ginger

4:47 PM

tfw you're doing some especially complex shit with git and you realize you just fatally screwed up but then you think about it for a few minutes and realize you actually didn't

Unrelated String

@Wezl' for jelly in particular i'd say a short answer is 7 bytes or less, a mid-length answer is 8-12, and a long answer is 13 and up

thejonymyster

@Ginger standard git operation

mousetail

Pro tip: Always clone a branch before you rebase

yea you can get it back with reflog is you mess up but it's a lot easier to just delte your branch and go back

Ginger

"rebase"? never heard of it, I just used reset d:

yknow, I bet I know more about the SE apis than most users

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