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4:05 PM
@Fmbalbuena οὐ γινώσκω τὴν γλῶσσαν ἐκείνην
 
> (about 0.9 kilobits per litre)
What the frick kind of unit is this lol
 
U ugkgrlfohk cle af moct.
 
@RedwolfPrograms Some kind of liquid-based data storage system?
 
Nope, the wikipedia article on magnetic core memory
I guess the density if you stacked a bunch of chips on top of each other?
4
 
4:35 PM
I would've expected kilobits per cubic (centi)meter if it's dry volume, but maybe cubic centimeters are smaller than the amount one usually has, and cubic meters are bigger.
 
Using liters for dry volume (possibly excluding powders) is rather lawful-evil
 
4:56 PM
I'm imagining walking into a grocery store, going into the aisle with the refrigerated stuff, and trying to decide between a gallon of milk and a gallon of core memory
 
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bigyihsuanExpand a Rubik's Cube Commutator Tags: rubiks-cubestringcode-golf Background We will be using a 3x3 cube for this challenge. Rubik's cubers have their own notation for movements on the cube: Each of the 6 faces has a clockwise turn notated with a single capital letter: UDLRFB. There are three ad...

 
@Fatalize Heyyy... (you're not wrong tho :P)
 
Not true, Ash had great documentation! For...two operators, but still :p
 
@RedwolfPrograms I'm trying to turn this into a Pringles joke
 
@NewPosts ugh, if you are going to delete my comment, at least ping me, so that I know that you've clarified the question...
 
5:07 PM
he did, but since he also deleted that i guess it doesn't go to your inbox lol
one feature i really wish SE had was like
 
the bot now only responds to programs that error out :/
 
the ability to mark a comment as addressed to someone so they can delete it after they've read it
 
found the error, forgot to indent a line
 
@GingerIndustries Out of curiosity, what problems have you run into with Replit's GitHub integration? I haven't used it extensively, but it's worked well for me so far.
 
@DLosc It works poorly when I do stupid shit
 
5:11 PM
Ah, understood. Though to be fair, the same can be said of GitHub itself. :P
 
:/
hey guess what
if you edit a chat message, then try to send a message with the same text as the original, it won't let you
>:(
 
not for me
 
U+200b copy-and-paste: '​'
Ooh, I should add this to my keyboard layout
 
@RedwolfPrograms what
 
5:24 PM
If chat's ever being annoying, just use a ZWSP
 
It's the only way to add a \​ at the end of a code formatting block, and it helps for sending duplicate messages
 
yO GingerBot is working!
one sec i'm going to add help
 
I have a shell alias gimme zwsp that copies it to my clipboard
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(it works with any unicode character and alias)
 
5:27 PM
@pxeger alias ls="sudo pkill -9 $RANDOM"
 
@RedwolfPrograms Hey, idea: let's actually do this! Making a collaboratively created SE chat conlang sounds fun. (cc: @hyper-neutrino)
 
a what now
oh no, this will either go brilliantly or horribly
 
@pxeger Nice, I have a custom command in APL that converts a character to code point or vice versa, and (not) puts it on the clipboard too, but it doesn't handle aliases. Hm…
 
@hyper-neutrino an esolang but for speaking
 
@hyper-neutrino Exactly! ^_^
 
5:31 PM
@pxeger nice, you have issues enabled so I can complain about your 4-width indentation :P
 
@Adám it just abuses Python's string literal syntax, which gave me unicode alias support basically accidentally
@Wezl-acautionarytale oops
 
don't worry, I'm a nice person. I'm just pointing it out so someone else in the TNB can do it :P
 
What do you have against four spaces? There's four of them and one of you, you're outnumbered.
 
that was a sarcastic "oops", because I disabled issues immediately after you said that
also if you're gonna indent with spaces, 4 is the best number
 
I think GingerBot is ready
 
5:34 PM
2 is too few, 8 is too many, and anything between 2 and 8 that's not 4 isn't a power of two is weird and disturbing
 
four spaces is not a bad indentation style. 3, 2, or 1 spaces are just better
 
If I could work out how to get nvim to use tabs for specific file formats only, I'd probably configure it to use tabs for shell scripts and config files
 
@Wezl-acautionarytale That makes your code too cramped. It makes your code sad. You hate your code.
 
you should only ever use 4 spaces
that is my policy
 
i do not indent
i simply write everything on one line
 
5:35 PM
@hyper-neutrino ಠ_ಠ
 
@hyper-neutrino liar
 
Four is like having a ceiling between 8 and 10 feet tall in a normally sized room. Anything shorter is just uncomfortable.
 
@pxeger ew tab indentation
 
@RedwolfPrograms The code I work on for work uses three spaces :/ Once I figured out how to set Notepad++'s indent level to three spaces, it wasn't too bad.
 
todo: write a program to convert Python code to one line IN ONE LINE
actually one sec
 
5:36 PM
I use vim-tsv, which enables wide tabs for tsv files. I imagine a similar approach could be used for other indentations
 
@GingerIndustries lambda x:"exec("+repr(x)+")"
 
@Wezl-acautionarytale whatever vim plugin I have for Go seems to kind of half do tab indentation
 
@Wezl-acautionarytale I don't mind 2 or 1 in some contexts, but mainly for Pip, tinylisp, and QBasic. Or if I'm writing Python code on TIO and I have to type the indent on each line manually.
 
@hyper-neutrino open("out.py", "w").write(open(input(), "r").read().replace("\n", ";"))
CMQ: What's the 27th letter of the alphabet?
 
5:39 PM
@GingerIndustries ok now handle indentation
 
@Wezl-acautionarytale how bout I don't
 
@GingerIndustries ato.pxeger.com/…
 
@GingerIndustries Hmm, several good possibilities. In a programming language with cyclical indexing, it's obviously A again. In MS Excel, it's AA. I'm rather inclined to go with Á, though.
 
I'm telling y'all it's &
 
...aaaand I just did this to myself X^D
@RedwolfPrograms The trouble I have with & is that I don't think of it as a letter. (To be fair, AA isn't either.)
 
5:48 PM
@DLosc it's ,
 
@DLosc Letters are just a social construct, we can make anything a letter! We can make saturday a letter, we can make democracy a letter, we can even make language itself a letter. You're just holding back society, keeping us tied to that old definition.
 
Historically, & was kind of considered a letter
 
@RedwolfPrograms By this logic I now declare that ಠ is the only letter of the alphabet
 
@GingerIndustries Another good answer is [ for uppercase and { for lowercase.
 
I will now create a userscript to change all text to ಠ
 
5:50 PM
@pxeger That's where its name "ampersand" comes from: when children sang the alphabet, they would end with "and, per se, 'and'"
 
ಠಠಠಠ ಠಠಠಠಠಠಠಠಠಠಠ
 
@pxeger Well, I suppose if we want to get historical, it's a ligature of Et. But I still say that's a word and/or two letters.
 
@GingerIndustries Scallops be like
 
> It was also common practice to add the & sign at the end of the alphabet as if it were the 27th letter
 
@RedwolfPrograms ಠಠಠಠಠಠ
 
@GingerIndustries javascript:document.body.innerText='ಠ'
changes everything else too :)
 
No no no, 'ಠ'.repeat(document.body.innerText.length)
 
ಠಠಠಠ, ಠಠಠಠ ಠಠಠಠ'ಠ ಠಠಠ -1'ಠಠ ಠಠಠಠಠಠ ಠಠ ಠಠಠ ಠಠಠಠಠಠಠಠ?
 
You'd probably get a better result by using a modifcation of the thorn script
 
ಠಠಠಠ ಠಠ ಠಠ "-1'ಠಠ" ಠಠ "-1'ಠಠ"?
 
5:52 PM
@Wezl-acautionarytale javascript:[...document.querySelectorAll('*')].map(e=>e.innerText=e.innerText?.replace?.(/./g,'\u0ca0'))
 
@Wezl-acautionarytale ಠಠ ಠಠಠಠಠ'ಠ ಠಠಠಠಠಠ, ಠಠ ಠಠಠಠಠಠಠಠ
 
complicated >:|
 
@GingerIndustries >(ಠ_ಠ)<
 
@DLosc ಠಠಠಠ
 
@DLosc ninja'd by a million years
 
5:54 PM
ಠ~ಠ
 
@Wezl-acautionarytale ಠ ಠಠಠಠ'ಠ ಠಠಠಠ ಠಠಠಠಠಠಠಠಠಠ ಠಠಠಠ ಠಠಠಠಠಠ
 
let's stop with the spam now please
 
^
 
it's not spam, those messages are no longer than their English versions
but sure fine
:|
 
It doesn't meaningfully contribute to the discussion
 
5:55 PM
@pxeger valid
but ScallopSpeak will be back
 
@GingerIndustries Then in that case, we can use the english-only rule :p
 
You'll see, you'll all see!
 
I'm kinda in support of the idea of a TNB conlang
 
@RedwolfPrograms it's just TNB memes as a language
 
Can we make another chat room and do it viossa style?
 
5:56 PM
I was literally 1 second away from hitting enter on this message:
So anyway--is anyone interested in making a conlang with me?
 
@GingerIndustries that's not true, if we're scoring by bytes
@RedwolfPrograms su
("yes")
 
I'll make one just a sec

 TNB Conlang (katlani)

Discussion and usage of katlani, the official™ TNB constructed...
 
@pxeger .̀_.́
 
 
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7:24 PM
@RedwolfPrograms can we have variables instead of pronouns? If so, I’m in
 
Join the room, and we can discuss it :p
 
user ur not too late to fix everything
 
Yeah, we're getting to grammar soon
 
7:59 PM
@DLosc sounds fun
yeah my profile pic got updated
 
when your supervisor leaves early /o/ \o\
now i can look at all the code golf i want with 0 con sequences
 
Is a con sequence like a con lang? :p
 
 
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9:22 PM
whats even is the deal with all thewords with similar prefixes and suffixes which mean completely different things
then theres helicopter.... helico pter.... never fails to throw me for a loop
 
? to which part
line 1: words like "consequence" "construct" "controversy" and "contact" all use "con" but i dont think they use the same meaning of "con"
line 2: the etymology if "helicopter" isn't "heli" + "copter" as one might assume, it's "helico" + "pter"
 
Wait really
I did not know that
 
@thejonymyster They very nearly do, if you go back far enough into Latin.
 
yes lol
@DLosc right fair
like i was talking with someone about like how "sub" means beneath but then theres words like "substitute" and they were like "yeah i dont think stitute is a word"
but sure enough, "stature" is the origin
 
9:28 PM
The only sort of different one is controversy, but I'm pretty sure the contra- prefix was originally con+tra (I don't remember what the tra- part meant)
 
bad example by me maybe, but from an english perspective it can be hard to tell where the suffixes get split cause theres also ones which like, share starting letters but one is longer
iirc
im not actually confused about why it happens i know language is just like that but like
whammy wham it sure is a thing
 
 
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11:18 PM
Ah yes I do love thinking it's Wednesday when it's actually Tuesday
 
mfw it's monday
 
Just don't live in the past ez
 
It is Tuesday somewhere.
 
Indeed it ü
*is
My iPad decided to interpret my cursive as a single letter
 
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