yep

i would be playing terraria if i weren't on school rn

half of why i'm actually moving forward with college despite being horribly disorganized and having no work ethic whatsoever is i haven't actually been having fun in my free time anyways

Man, I did not expect to see this many catgirl pfps when I woke up :P

lmao

Wait, since when did New Posts have cat ears? :P

what

guess vyxal has to block new posts too now

*lyxal

no the entire language of vyxal has to block new posts bot

i need sleep

Also, who knew that Wikipedia had its own cat girl?

i wish i didn't

why is there a List of catgirls article and why is it so short

oh hi there caird

on today's episode of: is caird up really early or am i up really late

why not both

true

@hyper-mewtrino I'm up earlier than I'd like :P

> "Neko mimi" redirects here. For the motorized cat shaped ears, see Neurowear.

i'd say i'm up later than i'd like but it's not like there's anything forcing me to still be awake

...for the w-what?

lmao wut

That article is wild :P

> Didn't y'all hear? It's CGCC catboy/catgirl week :P

wheres the catboys? :P

be the change you want to see in the world

@UnrelatedString nope

@UnrelatedString - cat boy Ghandi :P

@Dudecoinheringaahing bruhhh

CMC: Generate a random quote. From here

@PyGamer0 done

i do not know if this is more or less cringe than before

is this another oc from a search or

idk man i just did !gi catboy avatar

both look pretty dumb (@exedraj agrees?)

lol

@PyGamer0 'Software is hard.' // randomly chosen by a fair dice roll

@PyGamer0 what looks dumb?

@exedraj cat(boy|girl)s

^ regex

Yes I agree

@exedraj HM being a cat boy :P

@Dudecoinheringaahing I also agree with that

@PyGamer0 -1 byte: cat(boy|girl)s

@Dudecoinheringaahing thx

-many bytes: cat.+?s

catapults

CMQ: When are we all going back to normal?

@Bubbler But that classifies catastrophes as catboys :P

@exedraj When we get bored :P

So probably tomorrow theb

*theb

*thwb

*theb

*then

Shut up I'm on mobile

If only you could edit your messages :P

it ain't cat week if it's not a week

A moment of invisible wall between b and n

@exedraj You can still edit messages on mobile

But it's painful as heck to do so

Protip: Hacker's Keyboard makes editing easier

aand i have a class in 5 and a half hours

nyight

^-^ o/

@Bubbler ⍺pl keyboard?

People when they see hackers on hypixel: HAX

Not necessarily

Hacker's Keyboard is Hacker's Keyboard, the APL layout is just a plugin

> Hacker's Keyboard is Hacker's Keyboard
Oh

but still: HAX

hi @pxeger

o/

Adám and I shall remain the only neutral users in the cats vs identicons war

@PyGamer0 you mean block, not plane

@pxeger ok updated

@exedraj HN went back to normal about 2 minutes ago

(unless I'm going completely mad)

@pxeger yes he did

very cool now he is in the Pixel Art Gang

wait is that a third group

@hyper-neutrino yes

ok time to find a new pfp then

@hyper-neutrino go for a nice vector drawing that you didn't copy from GitHub's octoicons, and then together we can form the 4th front

@pxeger very cool kanye

@Allxy oh no, we can't bring more socks into this

the Geneva Conventions on the Rules of War forbid the use of socks

@pxeger so you're saying that by using a sock

I'm committing war crimes?

yes

Heck yeah

eye roll

what about a pair of socks

Very cool

@pxeger well what did you expect me to say?

or a stock of socks

@exedraj "oh I'm sorry I'll stop committing war crimes?"

Where's the fun in that? /s

whats the /<letter>

/s /e /a /z /w

/s = sarcasm

@hyper-neutrino does your new profile picture say "teeth"?

/E was a typo

/s is sarcasm, /hj is half joking, everything else is a typo

and /uj = "un-jerk", meaning "temporary suspension of sarcasm"

@pxeger well that's one of its possible meanings but it could also say leaf, edge (of a sword), wave, and a couple other things

and it is the topic particle

Google Translate has failed me

ha

Actually it means "Ha?"

i use /srs / /gen for non-sarcastic, /lh for lighthearted, /j for joke

/rj is "re-jerk" meaning "going back to a continued state of satire/sarcasm"

here is a list of some but not everyone will recognize all of them and some people will use others not on this list obviously

^ took me waayy too long to find

@Allxy why isnt your name Allyx

Because I didn't know how the alphabet worked

Because y does not come before x

@hyper-neutrino Y'all can assume an implicit /r whenever I'm talking here :P

...

@pxeger Love you too :P

@Dudecoinheringaahing even when replying to me?

@exedraj Sure, I have no problem with you, just with Vyxal :P

Hi

@exedraj You are refloweyed

@hyper-neutrino Why do you have the hiragana for 'ha' as your PFP?

Ok...

CMC: 4×0.75+the alternating sum of the first N "1/x³-x" terms of

Quickly hacked APL, 19 bytes: 3+(-/2(÷××+)/1⍳⍤+⊢)

4 times each fraction is equal to 1/(1×2×(1+2)), 1/(2×3×(2+3)), etc.

@exedraj hmmmm, like... Never, atleast for me since my original pfp is already cat

my internet speed is now 40kbps

so i am skipping computer class

@Adám Python 3, 62 58 bytes: lambda n:3+4j*sum(1j**x/(x**3-x)for x in range(3,3+2*n,2))

can be shorter with some more thought given to complex numbers but I cba

@AaronMiller I hope you appreciate the fact that I used the soft side of the sponge when cleaning you tonight.

uh

do I want to ask?

No

No you don

You don't know the context?

Wow

What rock do you live under?

@exedraj my name is Patrick...

Right.

Well I have a plate that looks like Aaron's pfp

So I call it the Aaron plate

I see

See

Aaron plate

That's Aaron in my sink earlier today waiting to be cleaned tonight

@pxeger Is this the Krusty Krab?

He's beautiful

Wait is that a dent in him?

You haven't been taking very good care of him...

@Dudecoinheringaahing No, this is starfish drawn on the complex plane

No, this is a plate-care workshop.

@Dudecoinheringaahing Why'd you delete this?

Well, one can self-delete stuff if they think it's not worth keeping

But it looked like a perfectly good answer...

> Not a good answer

I think that explains it enough

@emanresuA thanks! I’m still working on golfing it more lol

Ok...

I have just discovered Fetlang, a "fetish-themed esolang"

> Fetlang is licensed under the BSDM (BSD, modified) license

Oh no

@pxeger I’ve seen that and I decided at that moment that I will never use esolangs again (and then I forgot I did that)

lol

Wait a second, I just realized you can write any brainf program with only the characters [+<>., if you use wrapping cell values and if [[ was equivalent to ]

Maybe even one of the cell pointer moving things, > and < can be replaced

It would be very bad for golfing, definitely

I can't believe this works...

@Ectogen you can modify any language so that only one character is needed to write it though. See Unary

@Dudecoinheringaahing and if you make a cheese sandwich using grated cheese, then you'll definitely drop some of that as well

I do know about unary, but here I mean a bad attempt at compressing a language without making it 100% unreadable like in unary

there's umm

makonede's duocente-something

Yes

that thing's weird

that's also a bf compression scheme

Is there a better antonym of "type-safe" than "type-unsafe"? It sounds a bit clunky

"type-dangerous"

type-bad

untype-safe

I don't like type-unsafe because it sounds clunky and like it kinda ought to be un-type-safe, but that's clunky

safely untyped

CMC: Parse regex with HTML

@emanresuA no that's just lighting

@emanresuA Malicious tasks are off-topic.

So, I think I just found a challenge which one of my challenges is a dupe of. I would hammer mine closed, but the older one has "You may not use any pre-defined functions or classes which accomplish this for you" and is explained/formatted in a convoluted albeit clear enough way, which is giving me pause

Eh, guess I'll just byte the bullet and hammer mine (this one for reference)

'byte' the bullet?

Bite the bullet, but code-golf :P

And the moral is: Ignorance is bliss, so don't go looking for lack of bliss.

I wasn't even looking for it :P I was looking through the 2015 Best Of for some challenges to try/answers to upvote :P

@exedraj wow

@PyGamer0 No, BMG is next week

@Dudecoinheringaahing oh yeah its biweekly

I remember that qurstion because I made this ridiculous thing;

@NewPosts oh so that's why I got a few extra upvotes on that

And I remember why I made it now too

Keg?

Dang it am I that predictable

But also because it was a hot summer night and I needed a distraction from the heat

I didn't see the other question come up as a duplicate, and no one commented that it was similar until now

@exedraj Which do you think is worse: Keg or Minefriff?

Hmm that's a tough one

Keg

Also did you know that Dear Boss, is a valid program to sort a list of numbers?

On the grounds of performance relative to the aim of the language

@emanresuA duh, triplicate + implicit input means you'll be fine

Yeah

@emanresuA like MineFriff performs well for what it was intended to be

You asked for it...

Don't waste your opportunity

I gave you that intentionally

JOE MAMA GET REKD LOLOLOLO XD

Well done 👏👏👏👏

A+

Since Redwolf asked for it, can we have --danish, --russian, --chinese, --hiragana etc?

@AaronMiller If you're still taking suggestions for Cursed, ^ :P

If you can't write multi-lingual code, what's the point?

@emanresuA redwolf? Suggesting flags? Impossible.

Can't be true

But uh maybe

Idk

Plus it'll get me an amazing score in this

Put it in #160 and we'll see

I mean, we have the impostor as a feature request, so I don't see how language flags would hurt the issue

Also how tf do we have a total of 221 issues and pull requests (counting open and closed stuff)

Like seriously tho

Ok, so I've been thinking about how to best do the times for LYAL, and what about this: every other Wednesday, starting at 0UTC and going until 23:59UTC, the event is active, meaning that if discussion switches to that language, it takes priority over most other potential topics. People can still post CMCs, and we have a message pinned saying "We're currently in a LYAL event for <lang>, feel free to discuss the language, propose CMCs relevant to it and more" during that day. Thoughts?

So it'd be for a full day?

That sounds reasonable

Yes, but not always fully "active", rather, if the topic comes up (and it can come up more easily due to the event), it has "priority" in discussion

This... might not work

Have you decided how to decide the language?

Unfortunately, I suspect we've missed the window to do it today, so we may have to wait another 2 weeks

the attention span of the average TNB user is... blah

@exedraj Discussion beforehand to decide from the nominatees

@exedraj wait is Australia currently in lockdown beacuse of 2 cases?

@emanresuA If y'all can sustain cats and sh*t for a whole day I doubt sustaining a language should be hard

@PyGamer0 no. That sounds like New Zealand

@exedraj Yes

@emanresuA Yes, but if there's a pinned message, and people are aware beforehand that LYAL will be running that day, I doubt it'll get forgotten about

and it's more like 200

@PyGamer0 we've had way more than 2 cases lately

Heck, we're up to 600 in NSW alone

Hence why the whole state is in lock down

We're in lockdown for at least another week

@exedraj Which isn't that significant seeing as how the whole state sans a few rural local government areas was already in lockdown for a week or 2 before the state wide announcement

@emanresuA yeah probably the same here

CMP: Thoughts on LYAL being a day-long event (from 0UTC to 23:59UTC, every other Wednesday), where, during the day, discussion/CMCs/whatever about the specific language is encouraged, a message is pinned letting people know the event is active, and the language is decided a couple of days in advance to provide people with plenty of notice?

Yes

I'll leave that pin there so that others can weigh in when they see it :)

And the acronym keeps confusing me at first glance

We've had a few mini-lockdowns (part of the country in sort-of lockdown, the rest social distancing) but this is the first nationwide in over a year.

@exedraj No X

@exedraj Learn You Xenomorphs A Lang :P

@emanresuA Hence the confusion

I am a xenomorph... /s

Like once I take a moment to stop and think about what it means I'm fine

@Dudecoinheringaahing hey now see that's slightly offence to me /s

The Lyxal are nothing like that

Smh implying correlation between us and an actually violent inter galactic race

Area51 proposal: lyxal.se

That's a horrible idea. The most upvoted question would be caird asking why vyxal bad and then self answering and getting more votes

/hj

I've already answered that question before:

No, it's BPA free on Thursdays...

@Dudecoinheringaahing we added those back in

CMQ: Am I Lyxal's sock?

No because I'm not wearing you

BTW, don't forget to wash Allxy with warm water and detergent.

I dont have an allxy plate

Only an Aaron plate

And an Aaron bowl too

But do you have an Allxy sock?

No irl

Get one

Just change allxy's profile to a picture of your sock.

no

that'd defeat the purpose of it

:(

@exedraj alright fine I lied

I have 2 aaron plates

a big boy aaron plate and a small boy aaron plate

y'all've only seen the small boy aaron plate

How to get reputations quick? need much reputations. Much much reputations

don't ask me

it's taken me 2 years to get 15.7

well 17.1k technically

@emanresuA You've gotten reputations quicker than anyone except me and Arnauld this year :P

True

codegolf.stackexchange.com/users?tab=Reputation&filter=year

I is good at getting reputations

@exedraj alright fine I lied again

17.6k technically

Last month I got reputations nice and fastly but this month I've barely even posted

I want to get to 10k though!!

Learn Vyxal

@exedraj show the big one :P

@pxeger Yeah, that happens quite a lot I've found. Last month was the first time I got <1k rep in a month since Aug 2020

I tend to lose motivation on posting nearer the end of the month tho, so I've already posted a lot that month

@PyGamer0 no it's dark and I don't feel like taking plate pictures right now

June/July is actually by far my most active time

November/December/January/February are my most active months

But also June this year

Wow. Arnauld has consistently got between 7k and 8k every quarter since Q3 2018 O.o

You can see a record of your monthly rep gains here btw

I still don't know how he does it.

@pxeger has 69 badges

@Dudecoinheringaahing In fact, he's gotten ~30k a year from 2017, and is looking to get that much this year

He posts, what, two or three answers a week?

it's a combination of only posting when it's a good answer (à la xnor) and consistently hitting the FGITW and/or HNQ sweet-spots

(opinion from my rudimentary analysis)

@emanresuA No, he mostly posts every couple of days or so, sometimes more often if there's a few challenges going

You'd think tsh, who's on par with Arnauld in terms of JS-golfing, and posts a similar amount of answers, would have similar reputation growth...

Here, there's regularly a gap larger than 3 days between answers

@emanresuA tsh hasn't posted since Aug 6th

@Dudecoinheringaahing Oh nvm

He's been less active recently

Tip: Lotm. I got +260 from this, and had fun along the way.

But also, Arnauld has 5x the number of answers to get upvotes from, and has 70 questions. There's a reason he's legendary :P

@emanresuA every month I think "hmm should I have a go at this" and every month I get too scared because I know my answers will be very bad compared to language experts

zsh

you is good at zsh

do zsh

or learn vyxal

@emanresuA but when zsh becomes LoTM I suspect I'll be the one awarding the bounties lol

All the more reason to start earning rep now

@pxeger I always go "Oh, I should participate this time, that lang looks like I could use it", then keep going back to posting in Jelly :/

I try to participate

@emanresuA to be fair, I went back to look at codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/219433 and was embarrassed I missed the golfing opportunity, and that's in a language I am good at!

My first Vyxal answer

Plus, if/when I ever do decide to take part, I intend to turn down the bounties - there are other people who could benefit/deserve the rep more than me. Unfortunately, that means I don't have much external motivation to participate, and my internal motivation wants to sleep 24/7

@pxeger tip for getting upvotes: mention answers offhand in TNB! lmao

I could get some APL bounties, but I don't like using products that have been advertised to me

Where do you think razetime got all his reputations?

lol

I sort of want to set up a deadlineless bounty for people who outgolf me (like xnor's), but I'm not that good at golfing, and I don't have that much rep :P

Maybe if/when I hit 100k :P

I have a bounty for "interesting" zsh answers, which might as well be just for outgolfing me in zsh

I just had idea: get reputations from adcovado juic!

I guess you eventually get to a point where although you're not posting anything, you're earning rep off of what you've posted - like Dennis, or Jon Skeet

@emanresuA But how do I juic avocade?

Get rock

smash

I try, no juic

biga rock

@Dudecoinheringaahing nyaa nyaa

@Dudecoinheringaahing sounds like quite a good idea

@Dudecoinheringaahing We should definitely do that

@AviFS Unfortunately it's too early in the morning here for any new pictures to have good lighting :/

I'll check if I've got any more cat photos saved somewhere

Here's one taken just before the other one I originally posted, where stormie looks slightly less crazy

CMQ: Funniest message here, ever.

although there might be others

@emanresuA actually most of them

Step 1: Get advocado
Step 2: Juic advocado
Step 3: Profit
Step 4: Goto Step 1

@emanresuA ^^ better