The Nineteenth Byte

5:00 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing wait what's up with AJR o.O

i listened to this song by them excessively a year or two ago

@RedwolfPrograms not the kind of music i'd listen to (anymore, at least) but it's pretty good :+1:

I don't even know what sort of music I'd listen to, it's basically just a coin flip whether or not I'll like any given song lol

hyper-neutrino

> It's kinda funny how you vote for someone to vote for someone to vote for someone

america go brrr :/

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino Basically its a combination of: contrarians who dislike them as a "basic white indie group" and the fact that they still held concerts during COVID that had basically no safety measures

Redwolf Programs

I really hope this ends up working out

hyper-neutrino

@RedwolfPrograms lol yeah, pretty accurate for a good amount of people here AFAICT :P

@cairdcoinheringaahing oh, i see :/ first part is... unfortunately not really that surprising to me? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ second part isn't so great..

caird coinheringaahing

5:05 PM

Contrarians will be contrarians unfortunately ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

hyper-neutrino

@RedwolfPrograms TFW you use the weird electoral college system to reimplement direct representation

TBH FPTP is just pretty dumb but america only really has two parties anyway so it's not like anything else would really be different

IMO SE mod elections make more sense than most political elections :/

user

@hyper-neutrino It's a hack, though. We (America) need this feature built-in

hyper-neutrino

I mean, the community gets to pick the questions, the candidates have to answer the questions, they can be held accountable, and they have to campaign based on what they'll offer to the community

and voting is via STV

Redwolf Programs

Once it's effectively FPTP, it'll probably eventually get changed into that with some sort of constitutional amendment, which'll open the door to changing it again but into something actually good

hyper-neutrino

SE elections are literally better than IRL politics :P

user

5:06 PM

@hyper-neutrino I mean, that's why it needs to be changed - having more parties would be a good thing

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino This is a good read tbh

Redwolf Programs

Let's just put all of the SE mods in charge of their respective countries :p

user

@hyper-neutrino Waiting for smear campaigns to start in mod elections :P

@RedwolfPrograms What if there's multiple mods from a single country?

caird coinheringaahing

Golf battle to the death

3

Redwolf Programs

Have one move to an unmoderated country I guess :p

caird coinheringaahing

5:08 PM

There are 500+ mods on the network :P

user

For each country, there can only be one

hyper-neutrino

r.i.p. dutch mods (context: there's a disproportionately high amount of dutch mods on the network)

oh if y'all want some juicy drama the SFF election is ongoing right now

caird coinheringaahing

I think Glorfindel would win in the Netherlands easily :P

user

@hyper-neutrino Guess we'll just have to cut it up then :P

caird coinheringaahing

Ooh, SFF always has good mod drama :P

Redwolf Programs

5:08 PM

Honestly if someone put the CGCC mods in charge of a country, it'd probably be a lot better off

hyper-neutrino

@cairdcoinheringaahing yep :P he has 5 diamonds right now I think?

user

> Our general criteria for moderators is as follows:

patient and fair
leads by example
shows respect for their fellow community members in their actions and words
open to some light but firm moderation to keep the community on track and resolve (hopefully) uncommon disputes and exceptions

Boo

hyper-neutrino

not the most of any mod, but i won't be surprised if he has a sixth in the foreseeable future :P

@user good idea I should've campaigned with that during 2020 /s

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino 4

user

I want mods that roast other mods and bring up fake dirt on them

caird coinheringaahing

5:09 PM

Rory Alsop has had the most at any one point, 7 (currently has 6)

hyper-neutrino

@cairdcoinheringaahing Chess, ELL, Stack Apps, Ask Different, Spanish Language

that is 5

(the stack apps one is more recent so I don't blame you for miscounting)

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing How did he handle all that work?

caird coinheringaahing

Oh, I didn't see Spanish Language

hyper-neutrino

yeah it's very far down :P

caird coinheringaahing

@user ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ He's good at it

hyper-neutrino

5:10 PM

stack apps doesn't have elections FWIW; Glorfindel and rene just got appointed

caird coinheringaahing

My guess is that he's a very behind-the-scenes mod

hyper-neutrino

@user a) really efficient and just built different or b) mods sites with less work :P

user

Makes sense

hyper-neutrino

TBH like 90%+ of my work here is organization and relaying between CMs and y'all, if I only handled flags I could probably spend like 3 minutes a day max and do everything needed

this site generates so few flags

this is not an invitation to change that

caird coinheringaahing

@user "I once heard that hyper wrote a Jelly answer that got outgolfed, how can you vote for him??"

user

5:12 PM

@hyper-neutrino Lemme go "generate" some more

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino Challenge accepted :P

Redwolf Programs

I'd bet politics probably generates the most flags per capita

caird coinheringaahing

> If elected moderator I would celebrate by slaying a unicorn and then drinking it's sweet life-granting blood.

hyper-neutrino

@cairdcoinheringaahing *its

caird coinheringaahing

He has my vote :P

hyper-neutrino

5:12 PM

oh wait you were quoting

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing "I hear hyper-neutrino uses Java, and Java 7 at that. He's obviously working for them - Code Review - not us! I say we put him in jail!"

hyper-neutrino

apparently the rule that you cannot nominate yourself if you've been suspended within the past year was introduced because of SFF

in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 16 hours ago, by Ryan M

@hyper-neutrino what if I need someone to review my unreadably obfuscated code? 🤔

caird coinheringaahing

Yeah, Richard IIRC

hyper-neutrino

@hyper-neutrino to which i responded with Mast's LOLCODE question on CR of course :P

user

Mast and another user have multiple LOLCODE questions. There's even a lolcode tag. CR is weird

hyper-neutrino

5:16 PM

in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 16 hours ago, by hyper-neutrino

now you've got me wondering how poorly it'd go if i submitted some code in a golfing lang to code review for optimizations xD

i really want to try to find a way to legitimately do this :P

user

I actually want to submit some Jelly code there

The thing is that I can't even get it working in the first place, so I'd have to ask on SO for help first

caird coinheringaahing

I've been looking for an opportunity to introduce SO and CR to Jelly :P

user

Damn, TheLethalCarrot has a candidate score of 40

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino Tbf the three biggest guns in the Netherlands would be Tink, Glorfindel and rene, and I'm actually not sure who'd win

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing We can brigade SO with questions about if we do it sneakily, but not CR, because there's such little traffic normally :P

hyper-neutrino

5:19 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing they'd fuse into one entity and easily destroy the rest of the entire network's mods :p

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing All we need to do is get them to make a joke and then say "I'm joking, ..." and they'll turn into JoKing. Then JoKing will absorb them and become an all-powerful being that rules Australia and eventually the world

caird coinheringaahing

Well Glorfindel is an immortal elf who banished the Nazgul (maybe, my LOTR knowledge isn't great) :P

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing Glorfindel won't die, just be absorbed into JoKing and trapped under a powerful spell cast by lyxal :P

hyper-neutrino

@cairdcoinheringaahing same :p but the thing while it'd be funny, I also don't want to set a precedent of it being acceptable to ask questions on CR with languages for golfing, and I'd feel extremely responsible if anything bad between us were to happen again with this

since we are, AFAICT, orders of magnitude more active so even if we post some stuff as a joke it'd make a significant impact on their activity

@cairdcoinheringaahing the what now

on the other hand, posting to SO would be funny :P

user

Glorfindel

Glorfindel (IPA: [ɡlɔrˈfindɛl]) is a fictional character in J. R. R. Tolkien's Middle-earth legendarium. He is a member of the Noldor, one of the three groups of the Calaquendi or High Elves. The character and his name, which means "blond" or "golden-haired", were among the first created for what would become part of his Middle-earth legendarium in 1916–17, beginning with the initial draft of The Fall of Gondolin. His name indicates his hair as a mark of his distinction, as the Noldor were generally dark-haired. A character of the same name appears in the first book of The Lord of the Rings, The...

caird coinheringaahing

5:22 PM

The biggest thing giving me pause is that the "joke" language posts on CR are posted by mods, not by new users :P

hyper-neutrino

but your question would be buried by 10 other "help can i haz code" questions within 20 seconds

user

@hyper-neutrino That's a good thing, no one (from SO) will notice the Jelly

Then caird posts the question in JHT and gets everyone to answer on SO :P

hyper-neutrino

lol

caird coinheringaahing

I'd be happy to start a Jelly FAQ thing on SO :P

hyper-neutrino

this sounds like an excellent idea

user

5:23 PM

I'd be happy to contribute "pls give me teh codez" questions :P

@hyper-neutrino (to be clear, you're joking, right?)

caird coinheringaahing

jelly already exists, we'd need jelly-language :P

hyper-neutrino

@user no, I'm hyper-neutrino

user

ಠ_ಠ

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino Honestly, it's not a bad idea

hyper-neutrino

come on, you just made this joke yourself, @user

@cairdcoinheringaahing I intended my original message sarcastically but yeah it wouldn't actually be a bad idea xD

user

5:25 PM

@hyper-neutrino I was actually hoping to trick you into merging into JoKing just to see what would happen

(you're welcome, JoKing)

caird coinheringaahing

It feels like something that would be more on topic here, but it definitely wouldn't be. For example, why does this work?

user

@hyper-neutrino We don't need to post them there, though, people can just ask for help in JHT or TNB

caird coinheringaahing

But we can post them there :P

hyper-neutrino

@user yes and we could also post all of our challenges here as CMCs

user

Although "How do I get this Jelly code working?" questions are certainly more on-topic there

hyper-neutrino

5:27 PM

golfing tips would be off-topic there

user

@hyper-neutrino But problems with Jelly are usually minor-ish things

caird coinheringaahing

Plus, there are some Jelly questions that could do with a proper answer/explanation

hyper-neutrino

but "why doesn't this work" or "why does this work" or "how does this work" could be on-topic there

IMO it'd actually be more on-topic there - using a golfing language doesn't make a "why doesn't this work" question any less of a General Programming Help Question which is off-topic here

user

@hyper-neutrino Yeah, they're for here

hyper-neutrino

ofc, people will just ask here/JHT, but it should theoretically be able to be on-topic on SO if framed appropriately

of course, we also need to make sure we don't piss off SO since remember that we were originally a tag on SO and got ejected because they didn't want us :P

user

5:29 PM

@hyper-neutrino I don't disagree, but it'll seem to SO users that we're joking and might hurt our rep

Redwolf Programs

We should start a Golfing Languages site in Area 51 :p

hyper-neutrino

...

user

Turn that ellipsis upside down

Redwolf Programs

˙˙˙

user

Too much space

...

^ There, that's an upside down ellipsis that fell due to gravity

Redwolf Programs

5:30 PM

ॱॱॱ

user

Too little space

hyper-neutrino

language development SE when

user

There's a constructed languages SE, no?

Also computer science SE

Redwolf Programs

That's for spoken ones

user

Oh lol

hyper-neutrino

5:31 PM

lol

Redwolf Programs

I write all of my code in toki pona :p

hyper-neutrino

i actually have 883 rep on conlang SE

user

@RedwolfPrograms There's a programming language involving that, I think

@hyper-neutrino Nice. Here, have another green circle in celebration of that. I hope this third green circle makes you happy :P

Redwolf Programs

I've wanted to make a spoken language based language for a while

Unrealted, spanish would look so much nicer as a language if el were replaced with lo

hyper-neutrino

that sounds like a great way to hate your life

user

5:33 PM

^

Spoken language are probably going to be a lot harder to make than programming languages

Unless it isn't a general purpose spoken language

hyper-neutrino

spoken languages are designed to communicate things to humans who can recognize patterns, and many languages also cut out a ton of details and require context as well

Redwolf Programs

I've already got a bit of a start on a spoken one though

hyper-neutrino

computer languages can't really interpret that particularly well

Redwolf Programs

It's not that hard to make the grammar unambigious in a conlang

hyper-neutrino

i mean, you could make a coding language designed to be able to be read like a spoken language

user

5:34 PM

@hyper-neutrino Their regularity makes them much nicer

@hyper-neutrino What's wrong with LOLCODE? :P

hyper-neutrino

but i don't know of a spoken language off of which one could base a computer language right now

Redwolf Programs

I'd make my own, I don't particularly like any of the existing ones :p

hyper-neutrino

idk how good lojban's grammatical system is

Redwolf Programs

Lojban is bad IIRC

It's "unambiguousness" isn't what it sounds like at first...it's stuff like having a word meaning "I am being sarcastic"

hyper-neutrino

lojban seems confusing

the whole bridi system sounds like a lot of work to remember

like tavla being structured x1 talks to x2 about x3 in language x4 so you have to remember the meanings of positional arguments basically

Redwolf Programs

5:36 PM

I would, of course, omit the letter e in my phonetic inventory :p

user

I'd say a bit of ambiguity is okay in spoken languages, as long as people can easily avoid it

hyper-neutrino

like x1 [cu] tavla x2 x3 x4 meaning the above means you have to remember the meanings of each positional argument

user

@RedwolfPrograms Just the letter, not the sound, right?

Redwolf Programs

Both

user

ಠ_ಠ

Redwolf Programs

5:37 PM

The sound is also yellow

But lighter

user

Which one? eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee or ayyyyyy?

Redwolf Programs

The short english eh

hyper-neutrino

oh, do you also see colors from sounds?

TIL :p

Redwolf Programs

I guess it's more like I associate them with a letter or symbol

hyper-neutrino

ah

Redwolf Programs

5:38 PM

@user a would be ah, i would be ee, o would be oh, u would be oo

hyper-neutrino

will you reverse associate specific colors with their relevant symbols?

Redwolf Programs

No

user

Why not use the IPA? Is it incomplete?

hyper-neutrino

aw so you can't read piet code :(

Redwolf Programs

It's not a bijection

c and s, for example, are the same color

hyper-neutrino

5:40 PM

i wonder what percentage of people with symbol/color (forget the term) synaesthesia have bijective mappings :p

user

The percent that are mathematicians :P

The set of symbols is infinite and the set of colors we can distinguish is probably finite, so it's unlikely anyone will have a bijective mapping

Redwolf Programs

I think my synesthesia's been pretty heavily affected by my interests, interestingly

Programming has definitely had an influence on it

Common letters at the start of keywords, like f (function, for), w (while), and v (var) are purple, since that's the color my syntax highlighting is

hyper-neutrino

CMC: using the above, remap redwolf's synaesthesia such that e no longer looks bad :P

user

Hmm, so if you become a Python programmer and write except everywhere, will you be "cured" of your aversion to "e"? :P

hyper-neutrino

ninja'd

user

5:45 PM

:/

Redwolf Programs

The main reason I dislike python is the es everywhere :p

user

You need to face your fears to overcome them :P

Redwolf Programs

And it's basically the only reason I refuse to switch from var to let

user

Imagine using var x= and caring about scope when you can just write x=

hyper-neutrino

imagine using variables

user

5:47 PM

This post made by (lambda f: f(lambda x: f(x))(lambda x: x(x)) gang :P

hyper-neutrino

exactly

user

I'm quite happy about how this conversation went from COVID vaccines to variables without getting nsfw

CMQ: What's an easy-to-use alternative to variables?

hyper-neutrino

@user would you like it to?

user

No

hyper-neutrino

@user a stack

Redwolf Programs

5:49 PM

Do what I did before I knew JS had global variables

Store things in the DOM in invisible text

hyper-neutrino

...

user

@RedwolfPrograms Wait, that's bad practice?

caird coinheringaahing

@user Not talking about the values

user

Ah yes, avoiding a problem, my favorite approach to everything :P

caird coinheringaahing

I mean, that's literally what tacit programming is :P

user

5:57 PM

Even Jelly has a register, though

caird coinheringaahing

I believe its possible to code in Jelly without ever using the register or the superscripts

user

Like J?

caird coinheringaahing

J has variables

Also, I think [: and :] are niladic verbs (is that the right term?) that are basically Jelly's ⁸ and ⁹

Redwolf Programs

Unrelated, the arity of a Jelly command is determined by its capitalization or something, right?

caird coinheringaahing

Kind of

Uppercase letters are monads, lowercase are dyads and hooked letters are generally quicks/nilads

user

6:08 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing Oh ok

Redwolf Programs

Do APL/J/K work similarly, with everything having a defined arity?

caird coinheringaahing

Jelly's naming conventions

user

No, functions can be monadic or dyadic, and sometimes a glyph can be both a function or an operator: aplwiki.com/wiki/Function-operator_overloading)

caird coinheringaahing

Also, @RedwolfPrograms, I've added my yes argument for the blog :D

Feedback is welcome

Redwolf Programs

I'll start on my section then, almost forgot about it :p

caird coinheringaahing

6:10 PM

> sometimes [known as] schizophrenia

user

APL is old :P

That term's from back when they thought Dissociative Identity Disorder (previously MPD) was the same as schizophrenia

Redwolf Programs

For a golfing language, once all of the inputs have been used up, should you keep returning the final one, or wrap back around?

user

Wrap back around?

Redwolf Programs

Like if the inputs are 1 and 2, should [next input] + [next input] + [next input] be 4 or 5

(1 + 2 + 1 or 1 + 2 + 2)

caird coinheringaahing

I think wrap around is usually better

user

6:13 PM

4, because it's like modular indexing

Redwolf Programs

Sounds good

user

@RedwolfPrograms (the "Wrap back around?" was a hesitant suggestion, not a question btw :P)

Redwolf Programs

Oh :p

hyper-neutrino

register and direct argument access are purely for golfing

i am 99% confident i can turn any program that uses them into one that doesn't, but it'll take a lot of extra bytes :P

caird coinheringaahing

Aside from chaining, ḷ can mostly be used for ⁸ (and ṛ for ⁹), and you can use a register as [x, y] if you would normally store x

hyper-neutrino

6:20 PM

yeah

caird coinheringaahing

7:20 PM

CMC: Given x and y, divide x by 2 y times (e.g. 20, 5 -> 0.625)

Redwolf Programs

x=>y=>x/2**y

hyper-neutrino

well there's the H¡ you mentioned earlier :P

æ» unfortunately truncates

Redwolf Programs

x=>y=>x>>y is shorter for JS but truncates

hyper-neutrino

÷2*$} works too

or 2*÷@ accepting input in reverse order

.*× works as well (and equivalently ×.*$}, but it saves a byte because multiplication is commutative)

caird coinheringaahing

Oh, that's a clever one

@hyper-neutrino ɓ.*× works for taking input as x, y

hyper-neutrino

7:26 PM

H¡ is the only one of these that's really directly implementing the problem statement though as it literally divides by 2 y times :P

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing Scala, _/math.pow(2,_)

APL: {2÷⍨⍣⍺⊢⍵} or ⊢÷2∘*

rak1507

doesn't work, ⊣÷2*⊢ does though

user

Oops

I think I was going for ÷∘(2∘*) originally

Why is it that I keep leaving a room after just a couple hours when users who rarely ever chat, such as John Dvorak and dzaima, stay in here all the time? Is there some secret cookie to set or something?

Redwolf Programs

In my new language, it'd be 0+?/22?. That's the only hint y'all are getting :p

user

0+ ಠ_ಠ

caird coinheringaahing

7:36 PM

@user I have the TNB tab open on my computer pretty much all the time

user

I assume you're not adding 0 there like a normal language

Redwolf Programs

Actually, I can golf it to _?/+?

user

Explanation?

caird coinheringaahing

I also have a TNB window open on my phone, which may contribute to that?

user

That makes sense

Redwolf Programs

7:38 PM

@user Nope, that's all the spoilers you're going to get :p

user

:(

caird coinheringaahing

My guess is that ? represents input (boo no implicit input) and / is division. Not sure about _ or +

pxeger

Spoiler: in my upcoming language (+ -y1 D) it would be

⠖⠮⠮⠎⣎⡜⣴⣴⣮⣮⣮⡴⢞⣶⢮⠮⢮⡆⢦⡴⣆⣶⢶⣴⣮⢆⠮⣆⠖⣼⡮⢼⠦⢊⣮⠬⣮⢜⣪⣦⠚⣆⢊

Redwolf Programs

ooh, another braille code page

I like those

caird coinheringaahing

Sledgehammer needs more usage tbh

pxeger

7:41 PM

Yeah, but I'm worrying that not having ASCII-compatibility will be difficult (especially restricted-source). Do you think it will be ok to just use the byte values for questions that limit character usage?

Redwolf Programs

You could have two code pages I suppose

pxeger

@pxeger spoiler: that's not actually a valid program. It's just a rickroll encoded in braille

caird coinheringaahing

@pxeger If the question only bans characters, then you'll be able to use the entire braille code page

pxeger

well that feels like it would be cheating

Redwolf Programs

How?

pxeger

7:43 PM

Or, if not cheating, exploiting a poorly designed challenge

Redwolf Programs

That's where the fun comes in :p

caird coinheringaahing

My (joint)-highest voted answer is exploiting a poorly designed challenge :P

pxeger

So is my joint-2nd

hyper-neutrino

7:57 PM

I'm tempted to just use Jelly's codepage for my language too but the thing is then programs will look exactly like Jelly and I want to be somewhat distinct enough even though the chaining idea is pretty much just stolen from Jelly :p

caird coinheringaahing

I've stolen the second half of Jelly's code page for Add++ v6 because I already had a 127-byte SBCS for Add++ v5 and below :P

hyper-neutrino

IMO the most recognizable part of Jelly is the dotted characters and somewhat hooked characters (not really) so I'm trying to think of a block of characters I can use that would be distinct :p

accented characters is an 05AB1E thing right?

caird coinheringaahing

Accented is 05AB1E, Jelly is dots, Husk is a combination of those two, Stax/Seriously/others use cp-437 IIRC, Canvas uses large spaced characters, Charcoal uses greek/blackboard characters

hyper-neutrino

ah, thanks

see using kana would definitely be unique but unfortunately they don't share the same width as latin characters even in monospace so it would mess up things

and with yuno i just substituted wide latin but that eventually got really annoying

pxeger

@cairdcoinheringaahing Canvas and Charcoal use "firefox can't display this character" for me :(

caird coinheringaahing

8:07 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing Emoji and Emojicode use, well, emojis, Japt uses mobile-typeable characters, Brachylog uses dots + mathematical notation

pxeger

Vyxal uses ~~facts and logic~~ sensible mathematical symbols

hyper-neutrino

I feel like box-drawing characters are in use by some language

oh that's part of CP437 isn't it

yeah okay it is

Redwolf Programs

Blackboard bold

It's used by ESMin, but that's not a very well known language

And there's a ton of blackboard bold chars

caird coinheringaahing

Orst's code page was designed to be characters I can type on my phone

hyper-neutrino

i was just about to consider hebrew characters but as i was typing them into my text editor to check their width i realized uh

the RTL is gonna cause too many issues

caird coinheringaahing

8:12 PM

Although that page is wrong, this is the actual code page

Clearly printable-ascii-incompatible code pages are the best :P

Redwolf Programs

How about:

Unified Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics (Unicode block)

Unified Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics is a Unicode block containing syllabic characters for writing Inuktitut, Carrier, Cree (along with several of its dialect-specific characters), Ojibwe, Blackfoot and Canadian Athabascan languages. Additions for some Cree dialects, Ojibwe, and Dene can be found at the Unified Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics Extended block. == Block == == History == The following Unicode-related documents record the purpose and process of defining specific characters in the Unified Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics block: == References ==

hyper-neutrino

... i was just looking at that :D

on unicode-table.com/en/#unified-canadian-aboriginal-syllabics

Redwolf Programs

That would be a really cool looking language, too

hyper-neutrino

unfortunately it is too wide

i don't want to ditch ascii 32-126 personally

it would look really cool though

is small-caps in use?

Redwolf Programs

I don't think so

That could be cool

Doesn't look like there're that many though

hyper-neutrino

8:17 PM

yeah

and super/subscript doesn't seem to be great

Redwolf Programs

You also get a lot of weird font issues with both of those

hyper-neutrino

mhm

small caps seems reasonably well supported

Redwolf Programs

Most of them at least

Q doesn't show up for me

hyper-neutrino

rip :/

caird coinheringaahing

The trick is to choose a random multiple of 16 and take the 256 characters from that unicode block :P

hyper-neutrino

8:20 PM

the issue with greek characters is some of them literally look identical to latin characters so it can get annoying if i use all of the alphabet

Redwolf Programs

@cairdcoinheringaahing That actually sounds like fun, I'll go try that

caird coinheringaahing

Jelly, 11 bytes 200X×⁴⁹+€’Ọ

That goes up to 3455 char code

Redwolf Programs

I restricted mine to the BMP, but I keep getting either unprintables or CJK

Oh, just got some latin-y ones

(16) ["➰", "➱", "➲", "➳", "➴", "➵", "➶", "➷", "➸", "➹", "➺", "➻", "➼", "➽", "➾", "➿"]

^ How about those :p

(16) ["ꭀ", "ꭁ", "ꭂ", "ꭃ", "ꭄ", "ꭅ", "ꭆ", "ꭇ", "ꭈ", "ꭉ", "ꭊ", "ꭋ", "ꭌ", "ꭍ", "ꭎ", "ꭏ"] looks cool too

hyper-neutrino

things that are just a bit wider/narrower even in monospace are really annoying :/

caird coinheringaahing

It seems as tho changing the number at the start of mine really affects the group you get

hyper-neutrino

8:26 PM

i was trying to use ꜒꜓꜔꜕꜖ (IPA tone registers) but they are slightly too narrow

user

@RedwolfPrograms Those characters look kinda nice, but why do so many of them look like a variation of 'B'?

caird coinheringaahing

What about

ڰڱڲڳڴڵڶڷڸڹںڻڼڽھڿۀہۂۃۄۅۆۇۈۉۊۋیۍێۏېۑےۓ۔ەۖۗۘۙۚۛۜ۝۞ۣ۟۠ۡۢۤۥۦۧۨ۩۪ۭ۫۬ۮۯ۰۱۲۳۴۵۶۷۸۹ۺۻۼ۽۾ۿ܀܁܂܃܄܅܆܇܈܉܊܋܌܍܎܏ܐܑܒܓܔܕܖܗܘܙܚܛܜܝܞܟܠܡܢܣܤܥܦܧܨܩܪܫܬܭܮܯܱܴܷܸܹܻܼܾ݂݄݆݈ܰܲܳܵܶܺܽܿ݀݁݃݅݇݉݊݋݌ݍݎݏݐݑݒݓݔݕݖݗݘݙݚݛݜݝݞݟݠݡݢݣݤݥݦݧݨݩݪݫݬݭݮݯݰݱݲݳݴݵݶݷݸݹݺݻݼݽݾݿހށނރބޅކއވމފދތލގޏސޑޒޓޔޕޖޗޘޙޚޛޜޝޞޟޠޡޢޣޤޥަާިީުޫެޭޮޯ

?

:P

user

Is that a mishmash of Arabic and some other block?

caird coinheringaahing

It's a continuous block of Unicode

user

Oh, I thought some of those were purposely Zalgofied

caird coinheringaahing

8:28 PM

Starting at 1712, and going until 1967

Redwolf Programs

So it's the industrial revolution? :p

user

They'd be a lot easier to read if they weren't so darn small

@RedwolfPrograms Or my great-grandfather

caird coinheringaahing

@cairdcoinheringaahing The other one is: generate 256 unique random code points and use those characters :P

Jelly, 6 bytes 2ȷẊḣ⁹Ọ

hyper-neutrino

˥ ˦ ˧ ˨ ˩ are annoying because they'll combine together

if i take away spaces, ˥˦˧˨˩

Luis Mendo

@cairdcoinheringaahing MATL, W/ (inputs in reverse order)

A username

8:46 PM

@pxeger My highest-voted answer is actually because of the writing rather than the code :p

Ѹ!

hyper-neutrino

8:59 PM

perks of being a mod: I can document stuff in a chat room, and I don't have to worry about the edit limit \o/ this is definitely the most significant part of the diamond.

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