The Nineteenth Byte

user

00:11

@UnrelatedString I was joking :)

But really, anything that includes coffee is an unhealthy combination.

Redwolf Programs

That was a long conversation to read through

Definitely siding with water on this one, though

rak1507

:(

Redwolf Programs

As for coffee vs. tea, no opinion because I've never actually had coffee before :p

Lyxal

@RedwolfPrograms great!

The problem with changing the codepage in an esolang is that you have to update all existing answers.

Redwolf Programs

Not sure how it is in other places but if you walk into a restaurant in Texas and ask for tea you'll get iced tea, so more than once someone in my family's accidentally ordered hot tea on vacations

Lyxal

00:25

@RedwolfPrograms well if you came to my place and ask for tea I'd think of hot tea

So I can see how that would happen

Redwolf Programs

I actually don't think I've ever heard anyone call it "iced tea" in person, just "sweet tea" or "unsweet tea"

Unrelated String

I definitely hear iced tea all the time

with the implication of it being very sweet

Adám

00:47

@cairdcoinheringaahing LQP was already on the general SE list.

Redwolf Programs

Any feedback for Bot Factory KoTH (2.0)?

Redwolf Programs

01:11

Okay, problem. From what I've read it looks like you can't include warnings for not having certain tags (only if you do include specific ones). Maybe we could search for the tags that are most commonly used in questions without objective winning criteria and add warnings to those?

Okay, bigger issue. Apparently the main part of the popup for new users isn't even customizable...only the part between the title and the list of things you're supposed to do on other SE sites. Honestly I'm not even sure if there's a point to doing this any more.

I think that initial modal is probably confusing more users than it's helping at the moment, and I don't think there's really anything we can do about that other than saying "oh ignore everything under this because we're not allowed to change it", which definitely makes us seem very competent and professional

Bubbler

In that regard, it might be worth to see how Puzzling's modal looks like

Redwolf Programs

Did they customize theirs? Only four sites have.

Bubbler

Which four?

Redwolf Programs

Not sure, but just checked and Puzzling is default

Bubbler

:/

Redwolf Programs

01:22

"You can have whatever you like for dinner! Any food in the world! But the main course has to be a type of soup. The side can be anything, but you can only have an eighth of a serving of it. The type of soup has to be tomato basil. The side cannot have the letter 'a' in the name."

Lyxal

@RedwolfPrograms where?

Redwolf Programs

Stack Exchange

Where you can have anything you want as long as it doesn't take more than five seconds to implement :p

Lyxal

oh i thought it was an actual challenge text

Redwolf Programs

Not sure how that would work lol

Would be a pretty funny off topic post

Lyxal

wait how do you know about programming when you're a t-shirt production company?

Redwolf Programs

02:35

@Lyxal Ah yes, because there are only two people/organizations/hive minds with "redwolf" in the name :p

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02:53

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Undecidable halting set Write a program such that the set of natural numbers on which it halts is not recursive. Shorter is better. You may assume natural numbers in your language are unbounded. Example: Python 3 (52 chars) lambda n:eval(n.to_bytes(n.bit_length()//8+1,'big'))

Razetime

03:06

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Q: Is this site down or is it just me?

Challenge The challenge is simple, using http://isup.me, determine whether an inputted website is up or down. If the site is up, you should return a truthy value and if the site is down, you should return a falsey value. Rules The input will be a web address such as stackexchange.com or googl...

isup.me redirects to a different website now in this challenge

@rak1507 more about active answerers than anything else

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

pi optimized-output Most digits of Pi in a hundred bytes

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04:09

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

The UTM theorem Let ℕ denote the set of natural numbers. Let A × B denote the Cartesian product of A and B. Let A ⇀ B denote the set of partial functions from A to B. The UTM theorem says that there exists a computable function u : ℕ × ℕ ⇀ ℕ such that, for every computable function f : ℕ ⇀ ℕ, the...

Redwolf Programs

05:03

Wait a second...I think I just made the best discovery in the history of discoveries

I can set up a proxy on localhost and configure Chrome OS to use it

And I can make the proxy redirect to my server even on school WiFi

Bubbler

Shouldn't Rookie of the Year allow any challenge/answer from a new user, as long as they posted their first challenge/answer in 2020?

I noticed that only after writing a nomination

Redwolf Programs

The first and second sentences seem to disagree with each other

Bubbler

Yeah.

Redwolf Programs

To me the title "rookie of the year" would indicate that it could be any answer rather than just the first

Bubbler

I totally agree

The description in 2018 matches our interpretation. Should I fix the 2020 one?

Razetime

05:15

yep

that makes sense

Redwolf Programs

I'd say fix it

Razetime

yep fix it

Redwolf Programs

Am I the only one who gets Node JS and Nginx mixed up?

Razetime

idk what nginx does

Redwolf Programs

It's a web server

At least once a month I'll google with the wrong term and confuse myself

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06:39

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Write a Deadfish Interpreter code-golf interpreter A rewrite of this question with a simpler input format and guidelines. Challenge Deadfish uses a single accumulator, on which all commands are to be performed. It has the following commands: Command Description i increment the accumulator...

user41805

07:39

when are we awarding bounties to the 2019 winners?

caird coinheringaahing

@Adám So is e.g. VTC, OP, and more. Given how much I use it around chat and in comments, I figured it’s worth including it in the more easily accessible bit (I.e. the PPCG post) as well

Bubbler

@user41805 The right question would be "will we award bounties to the 2019 winners at all?"

user41805

:(

but anyways, i'll create a room like we did for the previous years

Bubbler

Maybe we can award them with 2020 winners, for the sake of minimum logistics

and I can hand out extra bounties, in case we don't have enough offers

user41805

here chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/118629

Neil

10:13

@RedwolfPrograms I don't expect good tea in the US, as I recall they threw all their best tea into a harbour in Boston and it's never been the same since

Adám

@Neil There's a whole report about it here.

Lyxal

I promise that my editing "rampage" is over now

user

14:04

@RedwolfPrograms I don't want to start the coffee/tea conversation again, but believe me, you're better off this way. If someone offers you coffee, don't accept.

caird coinheringaahing

14:31

@user Almdudler

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing That's neither water nor milk, but I'll take it.

caird coinheringaahing

@user Of course, we're all missing the best option: watered-down milk :P

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing No, no, anything but that!

Honestly, though, watered-down milk might not be that bad. I'm going to go try it now.

Redwolf Programs

School WiFi is down :/

On a school desktop so I'm probably being spied on in 5 ways

@Neil But the whole point of that was to protest taxes on tea! Totally not because we wanted a whole harbor of tea, but it turned out to not work like that, so we played it off as intentional

user

14:51

@RedwolfPrograms If you're in school, you probably shouldn't be here.

Redwolf Programs

Beats playing Chrome dino game all class (new high score, btw!)

user

@RedwolfPrograms Nice! I've never managed to go too far on that one.

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Q: Which answer did this user write?

This is an answer-chaining challenge where each answer must take an integer \$N\$ as input and return the 1-indexed ID of the answer which was written by the user whose ID is \$N\$. You may want to sort by oldest to get the answers in the logical order. Rules I will post the first answer. You ar...

code-golf restricted-source answer-chaining

Neil

17:11

any of you got any testing tips? I'm only really good at testing the sunshine path of an intended feature/bugfix (i.e. what I expect to happen) so I find it all too easy to introduce regressions on code paths which haven't occurred to me

pxeger

17:22

Am I the only one who finds challenges like this one (codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/217748) really boring? Finding a hash function is not a worthwhile challenge, especially when it's shorter to look up a digit index in a list

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17:56

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Q: 2020: a year in moderation

As we say goodbye to the old year and welcome the new one, we have a tradition of sharing moderation stats for the past 12 months. As most of you here are aware, sites on the Stack Exchange network are moderated somewhat differently to other sites on the web: We designed the Stack Exchange netw...

discussion moderation statistics

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19:15

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Finish what McCarthy started (WIP) code-golf interpreter lisp Some background from Wikipedia (you can skip ahead if you like): John McCarthy published the first paper on Lisp in 1960 while a research fellow at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. In it he described a language of symbolic e...

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Radiation Showdown (WIP) king-of-the-hill radiation-hardening restricted-source Two radiation-hardened programs will go head-to-head to destroy each other. Your task is to create a program which takes the other program's source as input and output the index of the byte that should be deleted fro...

Redwolf Programs

19:59

Internet! I have internet!

Redwolf Programs

20:12

Any feedback for Bot Factory KoTH (2.0)?

rak1507

20:42

@pxeger agreed

Damn it, just went to that challenge after finding fn($x)=>1+hexdec(md5($x+217495540)[1])%9; in php, only to find that someone has already got 9

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21:08

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Q: Find all degenerate submatrices of a matrix

Find the smallest submatrices first. Degenerate = singular = determinant(matrix) = 0.

matrix

Lyxal

22:39

Hey y'all!

Unrelated String

string here

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