The Nineteenth Byte

11:00 PM

@MagicOctopusUrn sooty, the mountains I went skiing in were in Utah, not Ohio.

You yanks have too many states

s/ot/rr

@cairdcoinheringaahing only mountains we have are 2 tiny mountains. We dub the "intermediate hill" on both of them, as in "a tree exists on this run, watch out" as double black diamond. In colorado, they dub a forest "beginner".

caird coinheringaahing

@MagicOctopusUrn European skiing classes basically a sheer cliff as a difficult intermediate run

Magic Octopus Urn

@cairdcoinheringaahing also, random off-topic question, is air-fare to the USA cheap?

2EZ 4RTZ

The cake was a lie

Legit no cake yet

caird coinheringaahing

@MagicOctopusUrn As in it is cheap to fly there?

Magic Octopus Urn

11:03 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing yeah, are you not in the USA? (assuming by the name?)

2EZ 4RTZ

@FunkyComputerMan hey I want a challenge for brainflak are you allowed to give me one of your simple labs for algorithms? (just a problem copy to try) or even just a similer challenge

Magic Octopus Urn

@2EZ4RTZ print your username in braniflak.

caird coinheringaahing

@MagicOctopusUrn Bo, I'm not in the US. A normal flight from London to NYC is about £150-£200 IIRC so not that cheap

2EZ 4RTZ

@MagicOctopusUrn that takes time not effort

Magic Octopus Urn

@cairdcoinheringaahing but not different than a flight to canada clearly.

caird coinheringaahing

11:05 PM

@2EZ4RTZ How about mine?

2EZ 4RTZ

@cairdcoinheringaahing That is a lot a weight

DJMcMayhem

@2EZ4RTZ Implement logical NOT without using the wiki

2EZ 4RTZ

@cairdcoinheringaahing again time not effort

DJMcMayhem

Must be stack-safe

2EZ 4RTZ

challenge accepted!

I need test case

23=0 0=1

caird coinheringaahing

11:05 PM

@2EZ4RTZ Learn other currencies

like that?

Exactly

0,1=true

@DJMcMayhem if i had a python interpreter for that I would always do it

Magic Octopus Urn

Also, dude @DJMcMayhem how long did it take you to make brainflak?

2EZ 4RTZ

11:06 PM

*write in Bflak

Magic Octopus Urn

For the initial push of the program.

caird coinheringaahing

Q: does Turing complete mean that theoretically it can complete every possible program?

DJMcMayhem

@MagicOctopusUrn Uhm, I don't remember. Not super long. I had the idea bouncing around in my head for a while, and then I spent maybe 20-30 minutes writing down different atoms to see if they work well together/are actually TC. The first working commit probably wasn't more than 2-3 hours, and then wheatwizard did a ton of work beyond that

Magic Octopus Urn

"In computability theory, a system of data-manipulation rules (such as a computer's instruction set, a programming language, or a cellular automaton) is said to be Turing complete or computationally universal if it can be used to simulate any Turing machine ( a mathematical model of a hypothetical computing machine that can use a predefined set of rules to determine a result from a set of input variables)."

DJMcMayhem

Comparitively, V took an eternity to implement

Magic Octopus Urn

11:09 PM

@DJMcMayhem dayum, was this before or after brainfuck existed?

DJMcMayhem

Definitely significantly after

caird coinheringaahing

@MagicOctopusUrn Way after

brainfuck was made in the 90s IIRC

Magic Octopus Urn

@DJMcMayhem ah, fair 'nuff... I'm new to this as of 2015 even though I'm 25.

caird coinheringaahing

@MagicOctopusUrn You're old :P Not Shaggy old, but definitely the oldest current chatter

Magic Octopus Urn

@cairdcoinheringaahing Really? Fuuuuu** me. When did young become oldfart.

DJMcMayhem

11:11 PM

Interestingly enough, there's a ton of things about brain-flak that work really well that I never realized until after the language spec was all figured out. WW discovered most of the really cool things, but it's cool that the possibilities of the language are way deeper than I could have known at the time

I even just learned two cool new (to me) tricks today

Magic Octopus Urn

@DJMcMayhem then again, WW is an insane man capable of ULTIMATE EVIL but commits his soul to amazing golf.

caird coinheringaahing

@MagicOctopusUrn I'm middle teens, DJ is 19/20 and 2EZ is 13/14 (I think)

DJMcMayhem

@cairdcoinheringaahing ✓

Magic Octopus Urn

@cairdcoinheringaahing yeah, I realized that 14-20 year old's are BEYOND smarter than me...

2EZ 4RTZ

Who is WW? You mean FCM right XD

@MagicOctopusUrn don't worry I can stay behind you

DJMcMayhem

11:13 PM

@2EZ4RTZ I refuse to keep up with name changes. You're still Christopher to me

Magic Octopus Urn

I mean, when I was young, we literally had no CSE classes offered.

caird coinheringaahing

@MagicOctopusUrn thinks of some of my friends No you're good :P

2EZ 4RTZ

@DJMcMayhem XD

caird coinheringaahing

@DJMcMayhem In that case, am I still user66388?

Pavel

@DJMcMayhem Who actually is FCM?

2EZ 4RTZ

11:14 PM

@DJMcMayhem I fix

caird coinheringaahing

@Pavel Wheat Wizard.

Magic Octopus Urn

@cairdcoinheringaahing yeah, but your generation is going to be amazing... For real. Just keep at it, the people aged 14-20, who are academically focused, are absolutely beyond me.

DJMcMayhem

@cairdcoinheringaahing Nah, you're just caird cause I can't spell the second word for the life of me

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

@DJMcMayhem I fixed it

DJMcMayhem

FunkyComputerMan

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

11:16 PM

@Pavel xXx.BlindKiller.xXx is playing Dota 2

Pavel

@Christopher2EZ4RTZ I saw

caird coinheringaahing

@DJMcMayhem TBH, neither can I :D

Pavel

@cairdcoinheringaahing To me, you're "Card coiner"

HyperNeutrino

@cairdcoinheringaahing please not the ;# thing again D:

DJMcMayhem

→ 8 messages moved to Trash

Alright, that's enough Trump talk for one lifetime

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

11:19 PM

@Pavel he is just car<tab>

@DJMcMayhem I had a pun but I value my TNB time

New Main Posts

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Q: Python help code

Here what I got for the first part; Print("Gummy Bears") Print("1.29") Print("2") Print("3") Calculation part; Int("input(1.29/16")) That's how far I got. I'm trying to figure out the rest of the code.

Pavel

@DJMcMayhem ಠ__ಠ

HyperNeutrino

> car

Magic Octopus Urn

@Christopher2EZ4RTZ cries in American

caird coinheringaahing

@Pavel Card?! It is pronounced care-d

DJMcMayhem

11:20 PM

Also, just FYI @MagicOctopusUrn A lot of people would consider Jesus Christ to be offensive, not to mention JFC

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caird coinheringaahing

@NewMainPosts :( I didn't even get a chance to VTC

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

@cairdcoinheringaahing Calm down card coiner

Magic Octopus Urn

@DJMcMayhem [Disclaimer] I'm kind of an obscene person, but fair enough. [/Disclaimer]

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

@cairdcoinheringaahing I feel you

DJMcMayhem

51

Q: "Be Nice" applies to off-topic questions too

For whatever reason, PPCG tends to get a lot of off-topic questions, generally about code-troubleshooting. Maybe it's because our help-center is inaccurate. Or maybe it's simply because we're a large-ish site with a lot of activity but very few questions per day, so each off-topic question is mor...

discussion new-users comments

caird coinheringaahing

11:21 PM

Crap, my internet's cutting out and it's half midnight here so peace out y'all o/

Magic Octopus Urn

@DJMcMayhem did you bump that because of my "pay attention in class" comment ;{(?

DJMcMayhem

No, I posted that because 5 of the seven comments on that question (ignoring comments from the OP) were incorrect, completely unhelpful, or borderline rude.

Pavel

@Dennis @Doorknob @MartinEnder Can you delete codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/142456/python-help-code please?

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

@Dennis hey can you grant a user chat access?

Magic Octopus Urn

Ah... Fair enough.

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

11:24 PM

@DJMcMayhem Did that include me?

DJMcMayhem

Yes

Pavel

@Christopher2EZ4RTZ Yes, Diamond mods do have that power.

Magic Octopus Urn

@DJMcMayhem so, how long have you been 'mod'?

Pavel

However, I've never seen a mod actually use this power.

@MagicOctopusUrn I think since March, and the correct term is "Room Owner" or RO

Magic Octopus Urn

@DJMcMayhem use 3 adjectives to describe the privilege through your eyes. I've always wondered what it'd be like to manage a group of people other on a large website like this...

DJMcMayhem

11:26 PM

@MagicOctopusUrn Not technically a mod, just one of the room owners of TNB. I was elected in february

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

@Mod can you give the user of that question above chat access I would like to help them in chat

Pavel

Damn, one month off.

Magic Octopus Urn

Oh, DANG, wow you have 18 gold medals? Jesus (the most awesome ChristLord in the world) Christ.

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

@Dennis Can you make it so this user can talk in this room?

DJMcMayhem

@Christopher2EZ4RTZ You've already pinged him once. Just wait

But I still think chat is completely the wrong place to send a help-vampire

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

11:30 PM

@DJMcMayhem I was being more specific to make it easier

Magic Octopus Urn

@Christopher2EZ4RTZ are you different that 2EZ4RTZ?

Pavel

@MagicOctopusUrn No.

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

@MagicOctopusUrn no

Magic Octopus Urn

@Christopher2EZ4RTZ b/c your username changed like... 1/2 through our conversions and I wanna know why.

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

But idk who that Down Christopher person was

caird coinheringaahing

11:30 PM

@Christopher2EZ4RTZ Please, please change the name of that room. "Help" is so unimaginative

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

@cairdcoinheringaahing I am here on PPCG i have no imagination

Magic Octopus Urn

Change it to: "HelpmeGeorgeBushhasmetrappedinhisbasement."

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

Or "Dr.DrayïsIandIamnotdeadlockedindj'sbasementplzsendhelp""

caird coinheringaahing

@Christopher2EZ4RTZ Have you seen some of the challenges posted here? If anything code golfers have an overactive imagination

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

@cairdcoinheringaahing Look at my challenges

Magic Octopus Urn

11:32 PM

"Kolmogrov complexity challenge: 'Print the entire script of Avatar as if it was written from the perspective of the spirit tree.' "

HyperNeutrino

@Christopher2EZ4RTZ Can you make me RO in "Help"? I think there was a thingy somewhere that ROs can do to grant chat permission in the specific room they operate but I can't quite remember exactly where they put it.

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Q: Solve this Alcazar for me

Recently I've been playing a game called Alcazar. It is a board puzzle game where your goal is to enter from one door, pass through all squares, and exit through another door. The only rules are: Enter once, leave once; Pass through all squares; Do not pass through a square more than once The...

code-golf ascii-art puzzle-solver

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Q: Nth Differences

In math, one way to figure out what the type of a given relation (linear, quadratic, etc) is to calculate the differences. To do so you take a list of y values for which the gap between the correspondent x values is the same, and subtract each one from the number above it, creating a list of num...

code-golf math

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

@HyperNeutrino edone

HyperNeutrino

thx

caird coinheringaahing

@MagicOctopusUrn Polyglot, 0 bytes. It's a tree, it doesn't have a perspective.

@NewMainPosts That's actually an interesting challenge. I hate the title however :P

DJMcMayhem

11:38 PM

→ 1 message moved to Trash

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→ 1 message moved to Trash

Pavel

caird coinheringaahing

I just counted the number of messages I have in the trash that should be there, and I got a grand total of 12. I'm not sure if that's good or bad.

ATaco

I've patched the Strawpoll widget, although you'll need to redownload it.

Pavel

The oneboxer or the sidebar one

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

11:44 PM

How was my answer kickworthy/wrong in any way? Have you seen that movie? All the trees are damaged in one way or another?

ATaco

@Pavel Sidebar.

@TuxCopter RProgN2, 2 bytes. 1{

Pavel

@ATaco a-ta.co/projects is slightly borked for me, none of the images are loading and the missing image placeholder is incredibly tall. Everything is still functional though.\

ATaco

@Pavel Yeah, I broke that a while ago, still need to fix it.

DJMcMayhem

@Christopher2EZ4RTZ How is that relevant to random shouting?

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

@DJMcMayhem What random shouting?

DJMcMayhem

11:46 PM

The message I trashed

HyperNeutrino

@Christopher2EZ4RTZ . chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/39947268#39947268

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ