The Nineteenth Byte

Step Hen

20:00

@ppperry wait, you're homeschooled too? there are dozens of us!

ppperry

how did you know?

Step Hen

@ppperry your SO profile

totallyhuman

@StepHen everything gets creepy inverted :P

wizzwizz4

@totallyhuman Text doesn't.

totallyhuman

:P

ppperry

20:01

I was back when I joined SO

not anymore

DJMcMayhem

@StepHen Same here

(formerly)

totallyhuman

I bet mine would be worse

Step Hen

@ppperry I guess we all graduated then

ppperry

in a way

Step Hen

@wizzwizz4 ƨɘi⅃

> Hutchins, who is also malware researcher at the Kryptos Logic security firm, created a killswitch that prevented the spread of the virus.

He definitely created a killswitch 0.o

Magic Octopus Urn

20:05

Someone post a horrible challenge.

I want to downvote something.

trichoplax

@ppperry Well hopefully it will help the next person who has this conversation - I found the question searching for this...

ppperry

why?

totallyhuman

evil onebox i.sstatic.net/5tCRc.png

wizzwizz4

@totallyhuman What's wrong with smurfs?

AdmBorkBork

@totallyhuman You turned into a a smurfy-cat.

ppperry

20:06

is there something special about the number 8696

Step Hen

@wizzwizz4 they aren't totally human

wizzwizz4

@totallyhuman You could use the t between c and . in the URL.

Step Hen

@ppperry it's 86 concatenated to 86 + 10

ppperry

8697 is 86 concatenated to 86+11

totallyhuman

@MagicOctopusUrn no u

Step Hen

20:07

Oh, speaking of concatenation: is ~ completely unintuitive for concatenation?

totallyhuman

yes

AdmBorkBork

I'd pick ^

ppperry

you're all too late

AdmBorkBork

as in caret, not as in up-arrow

Step Hen

@AdmBorkBork I'm already using +, &, and ^ for other stuff

totallyhuman

20:08

i'd pick + /o_o

ppperry

all of these operators already have a meaning

~ means bitwise negation

Step Hen

@ppperry yes but I made all of the bitwise ops two bytes because they are never useful in codegolf

totallyhuman

*whispers* overload! overload! overload!

AdmBorkBork

@StepHen Writing your own code page?

ppperry

^ means power or bitwise XOR

totallyhuman

20:08

@StepHen are you kidding?

Step Hen

@totallyhuman I can't overload because I have no strings, and I want numeric concatenation

@totallyhuman sorry, they are never used in golfing sequences

totallyhuman

oh

hrmm

ppperry

-3

Q: Bitwise GCD Challenge

Write the shortest iterative function to find gcd of two numbers (assume 32 bit numbers). Rules: Arithmetic, Comparison and Logical Operators are not allowed (except equality comparison (a==b) operator). Function should work for both positive and negative numbers No inbuilt functions allowed. ...

code-golf

Step Hen

@AdmBorkBork kind of

@ppperry ok, but I'm going to have a GCD function :P

ppperry

6

Q: math with bitwise operators

objective write a program that can perform addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division, using only bit-wise operators, by bit-wise operators i mean the equivalent of JavaScript &, |, ^, ~, << ,>> ,>>>. (AND, OR, XOR, NOT, and SHIFTs) rules you can use other operators, just not for the...

code-golf arithmetic binary

AdmBorkBork

20:09

@ppperry Or string concatenation.

@StepHen Go for a plus-in-a-circle?

Step Hen

@AdmBorkBork it's exponents

@AdmBorkBork and I haven't opened up to unicode yet, because I'm clueless on how to do the file :P

ppperry

9

Q: Write a program that turns every 17th bit of a text file to a 1

My coworker and I work on a legacy piece of software that we hate sometimes. Whenever you run it, debug asserts come flying everywhere, and it's never a guarantee that anything will work. The motivation for this round of code golf came from my coworker saying the following about our software. "I...

code-golf bitwise

wizzwizz4

@StepHen Use foo bar, not foo~bar.

Step Hen

@wizzwizz4 so space for concatenation?

AdmBorkBork

How about underscore?

wizzwizz4

20:11

@StepHen A gap.

Step Hen

@AdmBorkBork underscore is correctly for constants, but I can switch that

ppperry

14

Q: Exploring the xorspace

The xorspace of a set of integers is the set of all integers that can be obtained by combining the starting integers with the usual bitwise xor operator (^). For example, the xorspace of (8, 4) is (0, 4, 8, 12): 0 is 4^4, 12 is 4^8, and no other numbers can be reached. Note that the starting numb...

code-golf bitwise

Step Hen

as in _p is pi

Mr. Xcoder

Has wikipedia updated their style or something?

ppperry

Bitwise operators can certainly be useful

totallyhuman

20:11

:o

has it?

Step Hen

@wizzwizz4 that would mean 1 1 == 11

Mr. Xcoder

@ppperry Especially in golfing

totallyhuman

I've been waiting for a wiki redesign

Mr. Xcoder

@totallyhuman I see that doesn't apply for all pages

AdmBorkBork

@StepHen How about period?

ppperry

20:12

@stepHen see ...

Step Hen

@ppperry yup but I don't like having threeish operators taken byte bitwise, so I took them off 1 byters :P

Mr. Xcoder

This one has a redesign:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertrand%27s_postulate

Step Hen

@Mr.Xcoder that's mobile

Mr. Xcoder

@StepHen ? I'm on desktop :/

totallyhuman

remove the m. from the URL

wizzwizz4

20:13

@Mr.Xcoder Look at the URL.

Ninja'd.

Mr. Xcoder

Oh lol

Sorry guys

Dennis' fault...

wizzwizz4

@Mr.Xcoder I think we should have a ban on sharing mobile links.

Step Hen

@wizzwizz4 gluck with that

Mr. Xcoder

Ah, ninja'd by Step Hen

Step Hen

plus the mobile UI is simpler anyway

ppperry

20:14

this shows the errors of ...

2

Q: Ninjas in a Chat Log

Thanks to HyperNeutrino for making more test cases Often in chat, someone will ask a question, and multiple people will answer it at the same time. Usually, the person who was beaten to the gun will say "ninja'd", creating even more unnecessary chat. Given a chat log similar to the following: ...

code-golf string text-processing

that challenge is way too simple!

Step Hen

@AdmBorkBork would break my parser, 1.1 would be 1.1 not 11

Mr. Xcoder

Yay, the first time I actually get more than 201 rep in a day :)

totallyhuman

why isn't no.no registered already

ppperry

is there a badge for that?

wizzwizz4

What's our policy on this?

Step Hen

20:15

@wizzwizz4 that'd be fine imo

Mr. Xcoder

@wizzwizz4 I wouldn't accept it.

ppperry

me to

Mr. Xcoder

I'd say it brings no improvement whatsoever.

ppperry

also, it has an inaccurate edit summary

AdmBorkBork

@StepHen Ah, gotcha. Hmm...

Step Hen

20:16

@AdmBorkBork yeah the problem is I'm only working with nums

no strings

I'll stick with ~ for now

totallyhuman

@

does that do anything yet?

Step Hen

@totallyhuman yeah

totallyhuman

hrmm

Mr. Xcoder

Interesting fact: I have 4,15% from Dennis' rep

Step Hen

the available ones iirc are ~"{}[] and backtick

along with kind of #:;?

totallyhuman

20:18

~"{}[]`

Step Hen

:39213156 I think ~ is more intuitive than backtick though :P

Mr. Xcoder

Poll: What is your favourite bitwise operator for golfing?

totallyhuman

@Mr.Xcoder NOT

AdmBorkBork

Why not " then? Use backtick for string delineation if/when you ever do that.

Mr. Xcoder

Mine is ~ by far.

AdmBorkBork

20:19

@Mr.Xcoder -shl

totallyhuman

@AdmBorkBork left shift?

Mr. Xcoder

@AdmBorkBork What does that mean?

Step Hen

@AdmBorkBork hm, that might work

wizzwizz4

A implies B is my favourite by far.

totallyhuman

wat

wizzwizz4

20:20

If that's not available, XOR.

AdmBorkBork

@Mr.Xcoder Yep, shift left.

Step Hen

(just in powershell I assume?)

Why do I have three messages on the starboard with one star each?

totallyhuman

you just fed the troll

congrats

wizzwizz4

@StepHen Do you want any stars cancelled?

Ok, stop it.

Thanks for removing them...

totallyhuman

the totally human one is fine up there but I don't see how "that's mobile" is star-worthy

wizzwizz4

20:22

Oh. I know who it was. >:-)

AdmBorkBork

@StepHen Yeah. I'm pretty sure that this is the only time I've used it in roughly 450 golfing answers.

Mr. Xcoder

@wizzwizz4 ಠ_ಠ

Step Hen

@AdmBorkBork what the heck is that

wizzwizz4

I won't call the user out, but don't do it again.

Step Hen

@wizzwizz4 or your mega super duper mod powers will be utilized

Mr. Xcoder

20:24

Code review is spying on TNB!!! Weren't we in a KOTH war with them or so?

Step Hen

@Mr.Xcoder not in, it hasn't happened yet

AdmBorkBork

@StepHen Construct the numbers 1 to 100 using only 2 0 1 6

wizzwizz4

@StepHen I'll just be using RO powers to start with.

Step Hen

@AdmBorkBork -bnot that's long

wizzwizz4

Kicking, shoving, punching, challenging to a death battle, etc.

AdmBorkBork

20:25

So is -bxor

Magic Octopus Urn

TFW (right) you have no idea what you're doing.

5

Step Hen

mine is b~ and people are saying that isn't golfy enough

Magic Octopus Urn

IF you're nesting if statements in 05AB1E you're definitely messing something up...

Mr. Xcoder

@MagicOctopusUrn Nice, you used my challenge as an example :)

AdmBorkBork

@StepHen And -band, but that's at least kinda cool because it's a word.

Magic Octopus Urn

20:26

@Mr.Xcoder It's actually quite the difficult challenge for 05AB1E.

Mr. Xcoder

@MagicOctopusUrn You mean it's difficult to solve in Osabie?

(too lazy to switch to the digits pad)

Step Hen

btw I call first bounty on the Tetris question

Magic Octopus Urn

@Mr.Xcoder AFAICT, yes. I could be 100% missing something, as I said if you're double nesting if statements in 05AB1E you're missing something.

totallyhuman

@StepHen that's... not how any of this works /o_o

Magic Octopus Urn

@totallyhuman gnome.

totallyhuman

20:28

huh?

oh

lol

Step Hen

in The Quest for Tetris, 3 hours ago, by Step Hen

brb putting a 50 rep bounty on it so that people can't put 500s for a week :P

Magic Octopus Urn

@totallyhuman Gno, me. - Been using this response to "no u" since 2007.

totallyhuman

haha

Magic Octopus Urn

#kthxing before <s>it was cool</s> it was never cool.

totallyhuman

---strike--- ~~strike~~

Mr. Xcoder

20:30

@MagicOctopusUrn I'd be very glad if you would solve my semi-zigzag challenge in 05AB1E (even with nested conditionals)

It hasn't been done before

Step Hen

@Mr.Xcoder it's in his starred msg

Mr. Xcoder

@StepHen That, unfortunately, is not valid.

There is no Jelly answer either?!

totallyhuman

it's hard in some of those langs

Mr. Xcoder

@Adnan Can you solve this in 05AB1E?

Lembik

any C/Java/Rust/nim etc coders able to solve codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/137436/… for n = 32 please?

Mr. Xcoder

20:33

And no Pyth answer?!

Lembik

my python code isn't fast enough

Mr. Xcoder

I'll have to answer my own challenge

Adnan

@Mr.Xcoder it should be possible yes

Magic Octopus Urn

@Mr.Xcoder It's actually REALLY EFFING HARD. But, fine... since you asked I'll do it.

Adnan

especially with the recently added canvas mode

Mr. Xcoder

20:34

9 mins ago, by Magic Octopus Urn

TFW (right) you have no idea what you're doing.

Magic Octopus Urn

@Adnan I don't know how to use canvas mode at all.

Mr. Xcoder

A semi-failed attempt ^^

Lembik

or any other language that isn't as slow as a slow dog :)

Step Hen

@Lembik Try this

Magic Octopus Urn

O god it's bad... the entire idea was to split it into 4 cases, the increase, the max, the decrease, the min.

Adnan

20:35

@MagicOctopusUrn for easy things it's quite simple

Lembik

@StepHen very helpful thanks :)

Magic Octopus Urn

@Adnan it's really not that bad, it's just I can't think around the need for conditionals. 05AB1E really struggles with conditional logic.

Mr. Xcoder

@Adnan If you post an answer, I'll give it an upvote when I wake up tomorrow

totallyhuman

why not now?

Magic Octopus Urn

And by "05AB1E struggles" I mean "I struggle writing conditional logic in 05AB1E".

totallyhuman

20:36

oh

Mr. Xcoder

@totallyhuman Because I doubt he'll post it before I fall asleep

totallyhuman

I've never hit vote cap

Mr. Xcoder

@StepHen Nope

Adnan

@MagicOctopusUrn Well, the canvas mode should actually make this challenge easy

it's just undocumented, but here is an example: tio.run/##MzBNTDJM/f9f3d/43Oz//00B

Magic Octopus Urn

@Adnan teach me, o master.

Step Hen

20:37

Only 116 people have ever earned vox-populi on PPCG

Mr. Xcoder

@Adnan It's like a bit more verbose Charcoal?

totallyhuman

@StepHen vox-populi is a non-existent tag :P

Mr. Xcoder

@StepHen I don't have it, although I vote-capped 3 times! It just didn't want to come...

Adnan

@Mr.Xcoder Well, that's difficult to determine but this example is

Magic Octopus Urn

codegolf.stackexchange.com/help/badges/67/vox-populi

Is what you meant to link.

Adnan

20:38

@MagicOctopusUrn the Λ command takes three arguments; like this: <num><fill><pat>Λ

num is just the length, fill is the filler string used and pat is the pattern of the direction

Magic Octopus Urn

@adnan Sounds cool. No idea how to use it still, need an example <3.

Mr. Xcoder

which one would you say is harder to learn: Pyth / 05AB1E?

totallyhuman

dunno how to add spaces but

Magic Octopus Urn

Just like learning base 255 compression, I understood the concept, but not the syntax ._.

Adnan

@MagicOctopusUrn I'll try to answer the challenge and add an explanation, because it's difficult to explain in chat :p

Mr. Xcoder

20:40

Lol, 05AB1E just got more attractive

Magic Octopus Urn

Like, why?

Mr. Xcoder

'O3Λ'O5Λ is cool

Adnan

@Mr.Xcoder depends on what you are used to

Magic Octopus Urn

@Mr.Xcoder I still really don't get why my addition rotated it.

Step Hen

@totallyhuman I meant the badge

@Mr.Xcoder You have to vote 40 times - that means 10 question votes. If you only vote for answers you only get 30 votes.

Adnan

20:41

@MagicOctopusUrn The pattern uses numbers for direction:

Step Hen

That's why no one has it

Adnan

7 0 1
6 X 2
5 4 3

totallyhuman

lol

Mr. Xcoder

I drew an M!: 'O0Λ'O3Λ'O1Λ'O4Λ

Bye!

Magic Octopus Urn

I'm a god, apparently? - completely by accident I guessed 3.

Mr. Xcoder

20:42

@MagicOctopusUrn tio.run/##MzBNTDJM/f9f3d/43Gx1/5A8EGkKIoD8//9NAA

totallyhuman

how does one string in 05ab1e

Step Hen

We need an esolang based on pentagon tiling

Adnan

@totallyhuman just with quotes: "hello" should output hello

Magic Octopus Urn

@adnan lemme answer that I think I got it, this should be less than charcoal.

Adnan

I'm pretty sure it should beat Charcoal

totallyhuman

20:43

hrm

Magic Octopus Urn

@Adnan I now love 05AB1E more than groovy. Less than node.js still but...

Adnan

:)

totallyhuman

Try it online!

erm kinda XD

Magic Octopus Urn

3212 is a key number in that challenge ;).

Adnan

btw, you can concatenate directions: 'O23456701Λ

and even compress the numbers

totallyhuman

20:46

:o

I've been wanting to learn an ascii art language and I think I found one

Bobawob

What language?

Magic Octopus Urn

@adnan you sure those directions are correct?

totallyhuman

close enough? :P

@Bobawob 05ab1e

Adnan

@MagicOctopusUrn you mean for the challenge?

Magic Octopus Urn

Try it online!

;)

Bobawob

20:49

Nice!

totallyhuman

spaces

Magic Octopus Urn

NOUSPACES.

Adnan

the spaces are going to cost about 15 bytes though :P

totallyhuman

you need spaces when you're going horizontally

ouch

Magic Octopus Urn

Sorry, that was rude, gnome spaces...

Mr. Xcoder

20:50

That's not gonna end up shorter than Charcoal

:(

Anyway, bye!

totallyhuman

bye

Magic Octopus Urn

Oh god, you can't store the canvas in a string?

Adnan

you need to use .Λ rather than Λ for that

Magic Octopus Urn

Try it online!? Is that what you meant by spaces?

totallyhuman

.replace('OO', 'O O')

wait that's not gonna suffice

@MagicOctopusUrn not so sure about that...

Bobawob

20:53

To win a golfing challenge, do you need to use a golf language, or can you just golf a "functional" language?

totallyhuman

each time you replace 'OO' with 'O O', you have to add a space above it

@Bobawob any language that meets our standards is acceptable :) winning, on the other hand, depends on your definition

Magic Octopus Urn

I just didn't know what you meant by replace spaces, is the bottom like spaced?

totallyhuman

if you wish to compare a regular "practical" language with a golf language, then you're probably not gonna win often

however most people usually just compare solutions in the same language

Step Hen

@Bobawob that depends on what you call winning :)

Maltysen

@Lembik plz time me

Magic Octopus Urn

20:56

I like to give an example of my favorite answer (top voted): https://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/106496/score-rock-paper-scissors/106505#106505
It isn't a golfing language but it's by far my coolest answer and voted as such.

Step Hen

@Bobawob if you outgolf a couple other solutions in Python, you'll get a lot more upvotes than if you post a trivial Jelly solution

@Bobawob if you want a ton of rep, do something like this (and fastest-gun-in-the-west it for the best affect):

102

A: The Crow vs The Taxicab

Taxi, 7394 3773 bytes Go to Post Office:w 1 l 1 r 1 l.Pickup a passenger going to Tom's Trims.Pickup a passenger going to Tom's Trims.Go to Tom's Trims:n.[a]Pickup a passenger going to The Babelfishery.Go to The Babelfishery:s 1 l 1 r.Pickup a passenger going to Cyclone.Go to Cyclone:n 1 l 1 l 2...

Bobawob

Okay... No 2 character Python 3 wins... What is the key to golfing in a functional language? I never see any loops or if statements in golfed answers...

Magic Octopus Urn

@Bobawob "winning" is kind objective though. You get +2 rep for "best answer" and +690 rep for getting an answer people thought was interesting.

Step Hen

@Bobawob well, you're allowed to use either a function or a full program, so chose the shorter one

Magic Octopus Urn

@Bobawob If you consider "winning" to be getting Rep and comments/support from users, golf in whatever, but don't copy the methods answers have previously used.

Step Hen

20:58

@MagicOctopusUrn *+15

@Bobawob a lot of python answers use builtin functions well, and there's a lot of list comprehension going on

Magic Octopus Urn

@StepHen oh, right, you get +2 for SELECTING a best answer... I only have 2 best answers lol.

Step Hen

@Bobawob the best way is just to post it and watch the community golf it down, and learn that way

@Bobawob function for that is function lambda _:"Hello, World" which is longer

Bobawob

@StepHen Thank you!

Can I use def or do I have to use lambda?

Step Hen

@Bobawob you can use def, but if you use def you have to do return so it's usually longer

Nathan Merrill

This isn't valid CSS right? .someElement[value=]

Maltysen

21:01

@StepHen u don't need the _

Nathan Merrill

I just found a bunch of code with it, and I can't figure out why anybody would write it (and it looks intentional)

Step Hen

@NathanMerrill I forget, but with value='1' it would be valid

Nathan Merrill

oh, I know. I'm specifically talking about when there's nothing on the right hand side

Magic Octopus Urn

@Bobawob if you're looking for a language that isn't an esolang that nobody uses and you're familiar with Java try Groovy.

Step Hen

@Maltysen oh right I forgot about that

Magic Octopus Urn

21:02

You won't be winning, but you'll probably get votes as it's rare.

Step Hen

@NathanMerrill it's probably valid but not semantic, web stuff usually lets you do w/e you want

Nathan Merrill

I don't think those words mean what you think it means :)

Step Hen

@NathanMerrill "valid" as in it won't crash your browser and it won't screw anything else up

not sure if it'll match anything though :P

ATaco

I need some questions to answer in Maybe Later, but it sucks at pretty much everything.

Step Hen

@ATaco do tetris in gol in maybe later

ATaco

21:04

I feel like there's a fundamental issue with that.

Step Hen

@ATaco maybe later

ATaco

I need to keep a counter for the amount of times that pun's made.

totallyhuman

@StepHen that try was awful

:P

@ATaco you should've expected it...

Step Hen

@ATaco I really want to say maybe later again in response to that :P

ATaco

@StepHen B&

Step Hen

21:07

@ATaco I have a challenge for you

ATaco

Hmm?

Step Hen

@ATaco figure out/automate the monstrosity I made: Try it online!

ATaco

Once again, I don't think that's a challenge for MaybeLater

totallyhuman

@StepHen is it really that hard for one to read your interpreter code?

Step Hen

@totallyhuman well you can go read it - I'm saying, given an output, what was the input? It's really seems like a hash function

but I haven't studied enough, I wrote it Sunday

@totallyhuman I put an input into the program I just linked, and the output was wVNA>1/);:/F> What was the input?

totallyhuman

21:16

Hmm

Ok well I'll try later

Step Hen

@totallyhuman xD

totallyhuman

Although I'm not great at this

Adnan

@MagicOctopusUrn added with explanation

Step Hen

@totallyhuman the "language" is seriously screwed up, don't waste too much time on it

Magic Octopus Urn

@Adnan [Push "O" if N is odd, else "O "]: was my idea too, I just got distracted by work stuff I should be doing ._.''. I like this canvas thing. Maybe post "canvas_explanation.py" to the github.

After running „O 3212Λ it was pretty obvious the way you ended up doing it was the 100% valid way.

Adnan

21:28

yeah I wanted to write some docs for the canvas, but it is still very unstable

so a lot of things might change

Magic Octopus Urn

@adnan by the by, did you see this post: https://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/136901/hello-world-with-semi-common-characters/137107#137107
I wondered how you'd do it.

I went through like 20 different attempts before settling on the reverse base-255 conversion.

Adnan

Yeah I saw that challenge, I thought it wasn't possible in 05AB1E

the base 255 conversion is quite clever

Magic Octopus Urn

@adnan I was thinking I could golf my answer further with x... No idea, though.

Adnan

but do you need the full 255

Magic Octopus Urn

Hmm? 00000g000g00000000000000000g** is still the part I'm like... goddangit... 3*5*17.

I can't believe there's no way to push 255 in 05AB1E ha, you'd think that'd be a basic command. Then again, 1.4 years and I've yet to need the number 255 until now.

Adnan

21:33

@MagicOctopusUrn Base 107 is enough to print Hello, World!: tio.run/##MzBNTDJM/f9fySM1JydfRyE8vygnRVGJi8vQwPzQysPbFA6tc/r/…

Magic Octopus Urn

@Adnan Interesting, I don't believe that helps me too much though... unless...

totallyhuman

@StepHen lol I'll try not to

Magic Octopus Urn

Oh holy crap, yeh I'm dumb. Sec I'll post a way golfier answer.

@Adnan I knew you'd see somethin I missed.

How did you determine the highest needed base to express S?

S being a string of 05AB1E characters.

Adnan

you can use a program like this: tio.run/##MzBNTDJM/f/fyNTM3U/JKbE4VeHwfgUg0LVTULJXOLTT7/A2Pyed//…

and determine whether there is data loss

Magic Octopus Urn

[tio.run/##MzBNTDJM/f/… Try it online!]

totallyhuman

21:40

@MagicOctopusUrn wrong section lol

Magic Octopus Urn

Now the problem is pushing 107...

Adnan

and beating perl hahaha

totallyhuman

That's wiki syntax I think

Magic Octopus Urn

@Adnan it isn't beating perl because I dunno how to push 107 ;)

Adnan

oh nvm perl still kicks osabies ass

Magic Octopus Urn

21:42

@Adnan I could use 108 = 3*3*9

DJMcMayhem

@Adnan Why 107?

Adnan

X0 0000000gJ should also work

@DJMcMayhem It's the smallest base necessary to represent Hello, World!

Magic Octopus Urn

106 bytes: Try it online!, also J doesn't work because it joins with the compressed number.

DJMcMayhem

@Adnan Oh. Then clearly I'm missing something. I thought you were saying 107 is a standard base osabie uses

What happens with lower bases?

Magic Octopus Urn

107 is the lowest required base for Hello, world! to be considered an integer.

Therefore the compression for hello world is 107/255 less big than compressing it with 255.

Adnan

21:44

@DJMcMayhem this happens: tio.run/##MzBNTDJM/f/fyNTM3U/JKbE4VeHwfgUg0LVTULJXOLTT7/A2Pyed//…

Magic Octopus Urn

@Adnan post that in 05AB1E - Oasis and let me star it please.

@adnan that's beautiful.

It's also extremely obvious now, but I've never thought of it like that.

Teach a man to golf, eh?

DJMcMayhem

I don't understand haha

Riley

@MagicOctopusUrn 100 bytes

Adnan

@DJMcMayhem it basically converts the string from base N to base 10 and then back to base N

if the base number is too low there will be data loss

DJMcMayhem

Ah

Adnan

21:49

@MagicOctopusUrn Also, X is standardized to 1 so you don't need the 0gU

and the W in world is not capitalized

Magic Octopus Urn

anger at self intensifies

It can be golfed more, you just need to write an AUX script to figure out which base conversion above 108 has the most consecutive zeros.

And I'm game, but it won't beat SOGL so I'm also not game.

Adnan

challenge accepted

Magic Octopus Urn

Final (me): Try it online!

If you get below 95, post it as your own answer

Adnan

nice

Magic Octopus Urn

@Riley thanks for pointing out that over-sight btgw.

@Riley I gave you credit even though I had to redo it with a capital W.

Wellp my day is done, I'll see y'all tomorrow. That was fun.

HyperNeutrino

21:55

o/

totallyhuman

Bye

HyperNeutrino

Hey question: If I have g, p, and a and I'm trying to determine if there exists integer k such that (g ** k) mod p == a, what's the largest k I need to check?

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