The Nineteenth Byte

caird coinheringaahing

00:13

CMP: Should I post a Halloween challenge before or on Halloween?

Maltysen

@cairdcoinheringaahing on

ATaco

Before

Maltysen

wow that was inconclusive

caird coinheringaahing

My thoughts exactly :P

The problem with posting on is that people may be out when I post it, which isn't really a good thing.

Maltysen

true

caird coinheringaahing

00:15

Then again, we're golfers, we don't leave the house unless Amazon refuses to deliver what we need

ATaco

Remember, not everyone's halloween is happening at the same time.

Pavel

@cairdcoinheringaahing Last halloween, I was playing Dota and handing out candy to little kids at the same time. Whenever the doorbell rang I would sprint down, throw candy outside, and run back upstairs to my computer.

We won that game.

Maltysen

@Pavel u should have thrown the candy out the window

ATaco

Halloween is a lot less popular in Australia, which is boring, because Skeletons.

Pavel

@Maltysen My room faces the wrong way. The only useful window is 3 feet from the door.

Maltysen

00:20

oh shucks

well then the only correct answer is a series of ramps down the stairs

ATaco

These people don't celebrate Halloween but they have Skeletons inside them, when will the hypocrisy end?

Pavel

I'm doing the same thing this year I think.

Riker

@Pavel play tf2 instead

Pavel

With that in mind, I'll be able to move my computer downstairs.

Riker

@Pavel this is impressive you should have streamed that

@cairdcoinheringaahing before, like maybe UTC midnight of halloween

John Dvorak

00:22

Then there are people who celebrate non-violence by ripping off plant genitalia and dressing up with them

ASCII-only

@Maltysen the only correct answer is a string attached to a candy dispensing mechanism

Riker

you can still say it's "halloween", but people are more likely to be on

ATaco

"Playing Dota 2 but every time a trick-or-treater knocks I sprint downstairs and throw candy at them"

Riker

in PST that's the day before, at 4pm

Pavel

@Riker Realistically it'll be Rainbow Six Siege. I aquired Skyrim, Borderlands, Nier, Prey, and a couple others over the past few months, but every time I try to play one of them I decide to play r6s instead.

Maltysen

00:22

@Pavel nah itll be better to sit on ur roof and throw candy from there

u wont have to get up, but also not have to interact with them

Riker

@ATaco "[Not Clickbait] GONE VIOLENT! [10 game streak can we hold it]"

@Pavel I approve of this game choice

you play on xbox, console, or ps4?

Pavel

@Maltysen No poweroutlets on roof, unfortunatly.

> xbox, console, or ps4

none of the above

Maltysen

@Pavel that's what extension cords are for :P

Riker

is it on anything else? cool

ASCII-only

1 min ago, by ASCII-only

@Maltysen the only correct answer is a string attached to a candy dispensing mechanism

Riker

00:23

@Pavel ah whoops

Pavel

@Riker PC

Riker

I meant PC not console

Pavel

:P

Riker

sorry, brain did a stupid

ATaco

Just InternetOfThings a CandyCannon pointed through your mail slot.

Riker

00:24

lol

ATaco

"Alexa, Fire the CandyCannon™"

Maltysen

nice

Riker

> Alexia

ASCII-only

actually that's an even better idea

Maltysen

yo lets write that

ATaco

00:24

I don't know it's name, I'm Australian, we don't have nice things like Echos

Riker

@Maltysen I am not paying for the echo

Pavel

You know how in most games, if you accidentally fire a single bullet, you reload? IRL this doesn't happen because you throw away a bunch of ammo. In R6S, if you use up an entire mag, you reload, chamber a single round, and then reload again to have increased the capacity of your gun by one.

Riker

but I will help write if you ship it

ASCII-only

get a candy dispenser, arduino and some kind of motor -> magic -> done

Pavel

@Riker Its_Epi is reading the R6S patchnotes for everyone in the R6S discord in 5 minutes

ASCII-only

00:25

@Pavel wait what

Riker

@Pavel :/ not in the discord

invite? I'll join if you have a link

Maltysen

@Riker a google assistant/alexa thing that reacts to candy keywords and communicates with an arduino to give pulse of output to a pin

just the code

Riker

@Maltysen I need one for testing purposes

plz send one

Maltysen

itll be up to users to upload to arduino + attach motor

Riker

ty

Maltysen

00:26

@Riker i don't have one either

ATaco

compressed air + arduino

Maltysen

@Riker android phone "ok google"

for testing

Riker

lol

ASCII-only

@Maltysen well it's easier to just have a global hotkey on your computer

Maltysen

@ASCII-only yeah but its more fun to use voice commands

ASCII-only

00:27

i guess

Pavel

@Riker discord.gg/rainbow6

ATaco

"Alexa, FIRE!" "Aye Aye, Captain." Fwoop!

Riker

> just for fun, looks up anagrams of a name
> Arsenic Pros

I feel like that's gonna put me on a list

Pavel

Channel is "Fireside chat with epi"

Riker

kk

ASCII-only

00:27

ok developers.google.com/actions/extending-the-assistant

Riker

I may or may not have time for the viewing/reading/whatever

Maltysen

@ASCII-only yeah thats what im talking about

its pretty easy

idk bout alexa

if we get it out before halloween it might be popular

ATaco

Google's Assistant might be easier to do. And any android phone has it.

Maltysen

+google home etc

ASCII-only

@DJMcMayhem No reposts pls this isn't 9gag

ATaco

00:28

"Okay Google, Fire at the children."

Maltysen

rofl

Pavel

@Riker the patchnotes themselves: rainbow6.ubisoft.com/siege/en-us/updates//bloodorchid/…

Riker

ooh

Maltysen

@ASCII-only i'll set up a conversation in api.ai

ASCII-only

@ATaco ... that's what i linked to

Riker

00:29

@Pavel I've played a little box, xbox 1

>_> all sledge cuz I like the hammer

ATaco

(I know, I was commenting on it)

ASCII-only

@Maltysen what exactly would it trigger

Pavel

@Riker Sledge is fun.

Maltysen

@ASCII-only idk we can decide that later

Riker

sledge is amazing

Maltysen

00:29

either arduino

or ITTT in gerneal

ATaco

Compressed Air is very useful for making small things move really quickly.

ASCII-only

hmm actually not sure if just sending a message to a nodemcu running a server would work

Maltysen

@ASCII-only ok how anout instread of relying on user installtion with arduino etc

and make it play spooky sounds

ASCII-only

@Maltysen user installation?

Maltysen

so like "ok google, scare the children"

Pavel

00:30

@Riker :O it's started

Maltysen

and make the guy have a bluetooth speaker

we pivot away from candy shooting

ATaco

If anyone does install a candy cannon in their mailslot, please put approriate warnings, as children are usually at around mail slot hight, and parents like to sue if their child is hit in the eye by the wrong and of a lollipop.

ASCII-only

@ATaco don't think a high speed candy cannon is a good idea either way

@Maltysen what do you mean by user installation though

ATaco

Marshmallows may be a good alternative, but when they inevitably land on the floor, they will not be edible.

Maltysen

@ASCII-only like having the people using the code we write have to do electronic work

i think if we make a "ok google , scare the children"

it might even be popular

app

ATaco

00:32

No-one plans to make a voice controlled candy cannon with good intentions.

Riker

@Pavel lol, the beeps from connections

ASCII-only

@Maltysen :O good idea

Riker

"bink, bunk, bink, bunk"

Pavel

@Riker You can disable that

See pins

ASCII-only

@Maltysen yeah of course, but the least we can do is provide the code for the arduinos/nodemcus/whatever else is popular

ATaco

00:33

"Okay google, scare the children" "Taxes! oOooO! Student Loads!"

Maltysen

@ASCII-only the thing with the scare the children idea is that it won't require any of that, only a hidden bluetooth speaker

@ATaco rofl

ASCII-only

oh right

good idea

MD XF

Are there any challenges that could have simplified solutions with the usage of ecpp? (or... any challenges in the real world? Did I write a useful thing or not?)

ATaco

A speaker isn't that scary, though. Automatic ones have existed for years.

Maltysen

@ATaco ..true

hmmm

ASCII-only

00:35

you could add Hue lights :P

ATaco

Firing a fullsized snickers at a child's head through a mail slot is both exciting and illegal.

Maltysen

@ASCII-only lol

ASCII-only

@ATaco illegal meaning the important part here

Maltysen

@ATaco we could have many options

ASCII-only

@Maltysen like you could even add ones to fill up the entire entryway and make them flickering orange lights

Maltysen

00:36

all with the keyword of "children", etc

ASCII-only

options:

Maltysen

like "ok google, scare teh children" ok google, play music for the children"

ATaco

Probably more safe would be a candy dispenser that just outputs a handful of lollies through a chute or something, combined with Spooky Google™

ASCII-only

scare the children
terrify the children
make the children wet their pants

Maltysen

lol

yeah scare would be the gerneal one i guess

to pick at random

so other could be

ASCII-only

00:38

terrify would be all of them at once

Maltysen

"ok google, eat the children"

ASCII-only

@ATaco yeah of course

Maltysen

"ok google, swing swords at the children"

ASCII-only

oh yeah that is the best idea ever

but you'd need powerful servos for that

Maltysen

"ok google, scream at the children"

@ASCII-only no rofl

ATaco

00:39

Step 1, Take control of Google's Assistant API. Step 2, Find a way to connect it to various things. Step 3, Spook.

Maltysen

not actual swrods

sound effects

ASCII-only

@Maltysen yeah plastic swords :P

and add proximity detection to make sure they don't actually hit

ATaco

Real swords. It will be a valuable lesson.

Pavel

:OOOOOOOOOOOOO @Riker I got mentioned by name by Epi am I famous now

Maltysen

the cusomizability at the moment + voice makes it better than an automatic speaker

Riker

00:40

@Pavel yes

sell yourself for interviews

ATaco

"Okay Google; Scare the children." "Housing Prices have been growing at a rate inproportional to that of inflation, making it more and more unlikely someone will afford a house in their lifetime."

Maltysen

I was scared for a second but it looks like api.ai just changed their name to dialogflow

ATaco

"If you were replaced, atom by atom, with a different set of atoms, you'd never notice the point in which you stopped being you."

Riker

@Maltysen you know calc right?

Maltysen

@Riker yah

Riker

00:44

what's the implicit derivative of y^2

i.e. d/dx(y^2)

is it just 2y?

Maltysen

2y * dy/dx

Riker

or is it 2y*d/dx(y) or smth

ah okk

thanks!

Maltysen

chain rule

Riker

ya

ATaco

Man, I can't remember anything from Calculus.

Riker

00:45

and dy/dx is the same as y'(x) right

@ATaco that is not good

Maltysen

@Riker yup

Riker

cool

Socratic Phoenix

@Pavel JVM allows you to implement a dynamic type system through the INVOKEDYNAMIC opcode, but it doesn't directly support (see: golo-lang.org)

ATaco

I'd like to blame my teacher, but I think it's more the fact that we were never paying attention in class.

ASCII-only

@Maltysen wait is implicit derivative just basically chain rule

Riker

00:46

no

Maltysen

@ASCII-only usually

Riker

really?

huh

Maltysen

but it also does product rule etc.

@Riker yah

Socratic Phoenix

implicit derivative is evil (but yes)

Riker

ah I see

ASCII-only

00:47

<- didn't listen in class

ATaco

The derivative of x^3 is 3x^2, right..?

Socratic Phoenix

basically assume all variables are functions of t

Riker

@Maltysen I thought you meant it was only chain rule and you never used product

which confused me

ASCII-only

but somehow implicit derivative was the only thing i didn't know

Riker

@SocraticPhoenix that isn't what I'm learning

Socratic Phoenix

00:47

@Riker -_- than what is?

Maltysen

@Riker u use the other ruels for in respect of y, then u have to get it in x with with chain rule

Riker

@SocraticPhoenix I thought it was just derivative of an equation vs a function

ASCII-only

@SocraticPhoenix people say induction is evil

Riker

no T

just d/dx times both sides of an equation

Maltysen

@Riker yeah, but when d/dx ing the y terms

u have to use chain rule

Riker

00:48

distribute it, and that use the rules

Maltysen

and that always happens

caird coinheringaahing

Do on-topic conversations ever happene here? The last hour or so was talking about shooting kids with snickers, then about calculus. Do we ever talk about golfing code?

ASCII-only

@cairdcoinheringaahing yes

Maltysen

@cairdcoinheringaahing if anyone asks

Riker

@Pavel hype for crashing discord with goodbyes?

Pavel

00:50

aBSOLUTELY

ATaco

I thought this WAS golfing code. Boy am I ever embarrassed.

Pavel

*Absolutely

It's happening

Riker

oh my god

i have questions

Pavel

This was a godawful idea

Riker

pavel help my ears

Pavel

00:51

It should happen more often

<-- has headphones

Riker

this is like that metallica song with the wub pedal abuse

@Pavel same

Pavel

Welp

Riker

lol there's some guy screaming "WeeeHOOO"

caird coinheringaahing

What did Pavel do?

Pavel

Crashed for me

Riker

00:51

haha

ATaco

I managed to golf 10 bytes off my recent funky answer, mostly by rearranging operations to work better with it's R2L ordering.

Riker

you're missing the airhorn

@ATaco link?

Pavel

@Riker aww

Someone is recording though

ATaco

2

A: Output the Source, One Bit at a Time

Funky, 47 41 37 bytes Returns a number representing a bit. f=_=>1&("%b"%("f="+f)[i//8])>>7-i++%8 This uses the quine format of f=_=>"f=%s"%f. It takes the character at position ⌊i/8⌋, then, gets the bit by taking the pairity of n >> 7-i%8 where n is the ascii value of the current character. ...

Riker

@Pavel and allahu akbar being screamed

Pavel

00:53

Weeee

Riker

@Pavel :p

I'm outta there, gonna eat some dinner

Pavel

Yeah I was listening on my phone and the app crashed

Cya

Riker

@Pavel heh

see y'all

caird coinheringaahing

Can someone post a disapproval face? I have something to disapprove of

3

ATaco

ಠ_ಠ

caird coinheringaahing

00:54

Thanks

ASCII-only

@cairdcoinheringaahing 0/10 you should get wincompose

or a tacoscript at the very least

Riker

@cairdcoinheringaahing 눈_눈

Maltysen

or my bookmarklet

javascript: $("#input").keyup(function(){$("#input").val($("#input").val().replace(/o/g, "%E0%B2%A0"))})

caird coinheringaahing

@ASCII-only I'm on mobile

Riker

@cairdcoinheringaahing ಠ‿ಠ

ASCII-only

00:55

@cairdcoinheringaahing get a sane keyboard (i.e. one with the disapproval face)

caird coinheringaahing

ಠ_ಠ I downloaded a GitHub app, which doesn't allow you to edit documents in your repos

@Riker That is actually terrifying

ASCII-only

why does gboard not have disapproval face

whyyyy

Maltysen

@ASCII-only time fಠr sಠme 1-star reviews

ಠh wait my bಠಠkmarklet is still ಠn

relಠading

ASCII-only

@Maltysen 0/10 you should make your bookmarklet toggle

Anonymous

@Pavel Python's async syntax is sane. async def foo(): await bar(); return x

caird coinheringaahing

00:59

CMP: What is the most stars you've ever got on a single message?

ASCII-only

@cairdcoinheringaahing you should ask that to doorknob

caird coinheringaahing

Mine is 23

Pavel

@Mego TIL. That's almost exactly the C# syntax.

@Mego What happens if I say a = foo() without await?

Anonymous

@Pavel You get a continuation object that can be wrapped into a Future or passed to an event loop

Pavel

I think I need to know more python than I currently do for that to make sense. Is it basically a C# Task

Anonymous

01:04

@cairdcoinheringaahing 31: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/32701978#32701978 :(

Anonymous

More or less

Pavel

@Mego Wait when are you moving to Seattle

Because that message was a year ago and Chronos tells me you still live in Texas.

ASCII-only

Nov 12 '15 at 22:26, by Doorknob

okay seriously stop abusing stars

Maltysen

gimme link to spooky sound

ASCII-only

@Maltysen link

Anonymous

01:17

@Pavel I didn't get the job either time :(

ASCII-only

@Maltysen [another link](www.ranker.com/list/creepiest-audio-recordings/vicky-choy)

ATaco

@cairdcoinheringaahing 16

ASCII-only

@ASCII-only :| oops link fail

Riker

01:42

you need the https://www.etc.etc

ASCII-only

@Riker i know >_>

Pavel

@Mego oh. Rip.

Maltysen

02:16

@ASCII-only thanks

oh wait i needed a file

link

ASCII-only

@Maltysen :P

Maltysen

like an audio file url

ASCII-only

@Maltysen mp3skulls.to -> search spooky

Maltysen

tahks

wait that doesn't have direct link either

whatever ill use example file

ASCII-only

it has download links

20 ms in Delphi

wth

New Sandboxed Posts

02:45

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Confirm the Illuminati code-golf kolmogorov-complexity The Illuminati commands you to output the following: ^ /_\ /_|_\ /_|_|_\ /_|/o\|_\ /_|_\_/_|_\ /_|_|_|_|_|_\ /_|_|_|_|_|_|_\ /_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_\ /_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_\ As a code-golf challenge, t...

Maltysen

@ASCII-only the link dissapears after a bit

ASCII-only

@Maltysen wait wat

it shouldn't

all download links are third party

Maltysen

i must be missing something

can u give me a link

Pavel

tio.run/##qyrO@P8/NzFPoSC1KEehRqEkMTNHQVc3JzMvtdjW0PD/fwA

ATaco

> The Perl motto is "There's more than one way to do it." Divining how many more is left as an exercise to the reader.

ASCII-only

02:52

@Maltysen soundbible.com/tags-halloween.html

Maltysen

@ASCII-only no i mean can u give an example link

of a sound file

with either source

ASCII-only

@Maltysen soundbible.com/mp3/Evil_Laugh_1-Timothy-64737261.mp3

Maltysen

tahnks

have no idea how u got it lol

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