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10:02 AM
I made that language I was talking about 1/2 days ago, but something horrifying happened. When making a function, the function name is at the bottom DX
 
@Midnightas what's the language?
 
@charredgrass Are you asking the name? Or the link?
 
Either, just curious about what you're doing, always like hearing about people making new languages
 
Here you go: https://github.com/lvivtotoro/hashmap/
I plan on changing the name, since I stole it from a Java class name.
 
> null == undefined
true
:(
 
10:06 AM
Ooh cool
 
thanks
@TùxCräftîñg Aww, that's gotta be annoying
 
@TùxCräftîñg if you are comparing null and undefined I think you might have a bigger issue
also try typeof a === "undefined"
 
oh wow, and typeof a === "null" is false!
 
And instead of using == in this case, use ===
null === undefined
is false
 
Question. What is "==="?
 
10:09 AM
It also checks the type of the things to compare.
 
It's a JS thing. == casts then compares
=== checks to see if they are EXACTLY the same
 
for instance 3 == "3" is true but 3 === "3" is false
 
In the programming language I'm going to make, there are going to be multiple layers:
Program => Registers => Stack => Tape
what is another layer I can use?
 
:30927568
 
10:12 AM
That language sounds pretty neat
 
oh wait
 
do you have it on git or anythign?
 
Operative word being going
also, going is a bit misleading
 
2 hours ago, by Destructible Watermelon
I am making a programming language, where the commands manipulate registers, which in turn manipulate a stack, which in turn manipulate a tape.
 
Making, meaning it isn't made yet
 
10:13 AM
> ({}) != {}
true
 
I apologise for being unclear
 
because JS.
 
It's still in the idea development stage
What should the name be?
 
@TùxCräftîñg And (![]) is "false"
@DestructibleWatermelon You should make a poll and ask people
 
also there will be unicode commands
because unicode -_(ツ)_-
 
10:15 AM
-(ツ)-
 
Like ģ, ኄ, ္, 𣠷
 
 
this smiley is ugly without monospace
 
no more like ☃
the snowman
 
10:16 AM
OR... a
That's unicode, too
 
what about U+202e?
 
why is he wearing a fez
 
NON BREAKING SPACES
Oh wait, no thats a right-to-left override
ey, Guys
‮Hey, Guys
 
actually, I was thinking the dice
 
I'm hyper right now
 
10:17 AM
ɠ
^ this
 
Guys, copy this character
 
is a good command
 
‮‮
 
diacritics please
 
10:17 AM
ɠ
what is that
 
@DestructibleWatermelon LATIN SMALL LETTER G WITH HOOK
 
that ping noise is frightening
it makes me jump everytime
 
w̲͙̘̳̠i̫̲͡l͉ͅḷ ̣į̝̱̯t̼̱͙͓̜̝̀ͅ ̘̱̮̟͓̀s҉͓̭͖̭̻͔u͟pp̦͕͍͕͓̤̮ơ̩r̼t̞͔̲̘ͅ ͡d̞̹̯̻͕̠i҉̰̱͇a͙̘̮c̝̕r̼̺̯̱i͏͔̻̤͔̼̦͈ţ͍̟͓i̻ć̫̖s̥?̧̹̼͉
 
me too xD
 
@tu
@TùxCräftîñg
>:)
 
10:19 AM
Ḿ̨̨̡̛̛̛̰̬͉͖̘̱̹̻̥̯̱̣̤̮̞͛͆̑̈́͂̈̿́͑̈́̊̔̃͘͝Ơ̧̢̢̧̡̛̺̗͓̬̙̗̦̪̭͙͙̳̘͒̀̑̾̌̆͂̏̽̈́͗̽͆͘̚͜͝R̂̋̈́‌​̢̨̛͎̦̰̳̳͔̠̲͕̠̳̩̫̥̙̫̆́͑͐̌͌́̆̏̌̆̕͘̚͜Ë̛̘̪̥͔̰̱̣̳͕̞͇̗̣̪͉̭̰͑̈̅́̊͐̈́̊̇̋͋͐̽̓̃̚͝ͅͅ
 
Technically, you could put diacritics in. but why?
 
a thing like a accent to put under a expression to print
of increment/decrement
 
@DestructibleWatermelon what are you writing it in?
 
⚀______________________________⚀
 
10:20 AM
I only know python. It's still in the making the spec stage though
all the program will consist of is dice
 
ኻ WTF
 
or perhaps something else, because it might be cool to be "usuable" for golf
 
Cool. I'm writing a new language too, it's a JS based emoji spam languae
 
how will the syntax work?
 
10:21 AM
i am creating a apl dialect
in JS
 
@charredgrass howdoesthesyntaxworkineedtoknowtellme
maybe i'll use extended ascii
hmm, I'm not sure whether to use pretty unicode, or compact ascii
<(-_- )
hmmm
 
there is a way to have tuples in JS ?
 
@DestructibleWatermelon My language is just going to be a JS interpreter, so it will translate the code from EmoJiS (that's what I'm calling it) to normal JS and run that
My dream is to one day be in the esolang wiki
 
You know you just make a page there for your language?
that's how it works
most of the pages are made by the creators
Don't let your dreams be dreams
 
10:30 AM
oh
duh, it's a wiki :P
 
just make a page
 
ok, my goal is for it to one day be used in golf
 
Beware, you may get brickbrained if you post a brainfuck derivative
 
1 + 2 + 3 4 is interpreted like 1 + 2 + 4 .____________________________.
 
10:34 AM
yup
 
What is up with javascript?
 
it seems as idiosyncratic as a golfing lang, yet still being general purpose
 
hey dont hate on JS
going to dinner cya nerds later
 
what is the unicode code point of the APL diamond ?
 
10:38 AM
this one? ♦
 
🔶
U+2666
&#9830;
that's the one for the first diamond
 
firefox use 500M of memory ._______________________________.
 
oh my, there are playing cards
 
> heptomino.net :: Website and Domain Name Full Report
<...>
heptomino.net total connection time is 261.619ms which is very fast.
@TùxCräftîñg How much memory do you have?
 
10:43 AM
@LegionMammal978 8GB
i have a average of 4GB of memory usage
 
@TùxCräftîñg What are you running on that box!?
I have 16GB and average 1GB used
 
@LegionMammal978 N++, firefox, file explorer, steam, origin, bluestacks, bullgard, etc...
 
@TùxCräftîñg Windows?
 
I have decided on using the large unicode characters.
 
10:46 AM
you mean >U+FFFF ?
 
I mean ones that are larger than ascii
 
as opposed to one byte per char
 
so >U+FF
 
Yeah, I set my computer up so it'd run Ubuntu then got Mathematica for Linux so I'd stop using Win7 (this was still ~2014) all the time.
 
10:47 AM
and it would also be really funny to see legitimate code golf with like, 1000 bytes
 
@LegionMammal978 I'm finally releasing my search github.com/schas002/cgol-search
 
for an answer where java gets 300, as comparison
 
@LegionMammal978 i must use windows because games ._.
 
^, have to reboot all the time to swap :(
 
I must use Windows because modem ._.
 
10:48 AM
why modem ?
 
you know, I had the idea of calling it codeception, but that seems to obvious and stupid in general
 
My only mean of home Internet is an USB modem which only has drivers/controllers for Windows.
 
you have a modem that only work on windows .__.
 
10:50 AM
WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF‌​FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF‌​FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF‌​FFF
 
@TùxCräftîñg Yeah.
 
for me it's even worst. i have a D-Link modem
 
@TùxCräftîñg What's that?
 
what's what ?
 
10:51 AM
A D-Link modem
 
a modem manufactured by d-link
 
but d-link modems are sh*t
 
But yeah, I have literally no idea which modem I'm using, just that it's connected to a router that's connected to another router which sends signals trough the power lines which I then use an adapter to pick up and convert to Ethernet on my end and the Ethernet cable is just plugged into the back of my box
Keyword: Ethernet
 
10:55 AM
Hey, at least it works on things other than Windows
 
._________________________________.
 
(And it's wired)
 
._________________________________________________________.
 
Used to have this adapter (which connected to a router which connected to a router which connected to my modem):
Was much slower than Ethernet over Power Lines (EoPL?) ;p
 
here, have an inside joke
 
10:58 AM
i have a DLink DWR-921. the connection is very unstable, but at least it's not a security hole
 
0
A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Tituscreate a golfed down regexp that matches all substrings inspired by Determine the "Luck" of a string where I found a way to golf almost 30 bytes at once. The word "lucky" contains 15 different substrings: lucky luck, ucky luc, uck, cky lu, uc, ck, ky l, u, c, k, y Challenge Create a program...

 
@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 what is your github account ? schas002 or zyabinVI ?
 
@DestructibleWatermelon In your language, you have registers which manipulate a stack which manipulates a tape, but for a 2-register Minsky machine to be Turing-Complete, the proof requires 2 registers to manipulate 4 (virtual) registers to manipulate 2 stacks to manipulate a tape.
 
@TùxCräftîñg My personal account is schas002.
 
11:05 AM
ok
 
zyabinVI is my experimenting organization.
 
@LegionMammal978 shhhhh
 
@DestructibleWatermelon Don't worry, Minsky machines have only 2 commands and are a real pain to use
 
anyway, that is only used in the proof
correct?
 
11:06 AM
Yeah, but it's pretty much the only way to represent a tape
 
there is only the two registers, where as in mine, there is no emulation of the stack, it is actually a part of the language
I could make it more layered with more stacks etc
but that wouldn't really be adding anything, only extending the idea until it's worn out
 
A WILD @DOORKNOB HAS APPEARED
ATTACK BAG
IDK    RUN
 
@DestructibleWatermelon With enough abstraction, a Minsky machine could emulate any Turing-computable data structure
 
zyabin101 used Dig!
Can't do this here.
 
11:08 AM
in my language, I plan on all layers being necessary for tcness
 
IT'S NOT VERY EFFECTIVE
 
but I'm not sure
 
@TùxCräftîñg LegionMammal978 used document.querySelector`#input`.disabled=1!
 
11:09 AM
Destructible watermelon used destruct!
 
SPLASH
 
Destructible Watermelon fainted...
 
Select Pokémon to continue battle: zyabin101 LegionMammal978 Destructible Watermelon TuxCrafting
 
TuxCrafting
 
11:11 AM
Go, TuxCrafting!
 
TuxCrafting used tackle!
 
No tux, morph into pax tux first
 
(french names ._.)
 
I don't know why i expected destruct to go well (º~º)
 
11:14 AM
.____________________________________.
.____________________________________________________________.
.__________________________________.
 
We have one last option...
LegionMammal978 used XSS a document.querySelector`#input`.disabled=1!
 
looks above .. what in the heck?!
 
TuxCrafting fainted due to XSS
 
Select Pokémon to continue battle: zyabin101 LegionMammal978 Destructible Watermelon TuxCrafting
I choose myself.
Go, zyabin101!
zyabin101 used Fly!
Can't do this here.
._.
 
11:22 AM
C'mon, @LegionMammal978, do something!
 
LegionMammal978 used Modify All Plugins/Usercripts to Contain if(CHAT&&CHAT.CURRENT_ROOM_ID==240)document.querySelector`#input`.disabled=1‌​!
 
Can't do this here.
 
wait. why are we trying to do anything at all
 
@DestructibleWatermelon ​
 
11:23 AM
Maybe do something that does not disable the chat box? :/
 
@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 LegionMammal978 is a strict pacifist and refuses!
 
so use a passive attack like shield :/
 
Alright, I'll try moves that hide myself.
@TùxCräftîñg Or growl, or tail whip.
 
LegionMammal978 used String Theory!
 
11:25 AM
He is now 2D and con no longer be aimed at!
 
Wait i got starred
wut
 
Good idea!
 
but how are you going to aim at him?
 
LegionMammal978 used A Nice Game of Thermonuclear War!
DEFCON 1 has been invoked!
 
In my language, there will be a tape. but how do i implement it without it being too similar to Brainf*ck
 
11:29 AM
DEFCON 2 has been invoked!
DEFCON 3 has been invoked!
DEFCON 4 has been invoked!
 
C'mon, make any of the DEFCONs attack.
In the meantime...
 
LegionMammal978 fainted due to there not being a winning move!
 
.___________________________________________________.
 
You have one Pokemon left, zyabin101.
 
zʏᴀʙiɴ101 is the winner
 
11:32 AM
zyabin101 used Hide in Barrel!
zyabin101s Defense rose!
 
0
Q: Use 16 colors while writing Hey! 4 times

figgycity50i.e each byte appears in a different ANSI shell colour. Rules Must be output in STDOUT or the primary colour text output of your language. Must be done programmatically (with iteration) instead of just writing a fixed string to shell like the reference command. Must output the same as the ref...

 
DEFCON 5 has still been invoked! Total nuclear war will begin in (5) minutes...
 
dun dun dun
 
Total nuclear war will begin in (4) minutes...
 
WHAT DO GUYS
 
11:36 AM
I don't know how to interrupt the game and prevent the war D:
 
Legionmammal
the only winning move is not to play
 
The only way there is to give up.
 
zyabin101 ran away!
 
Total nuclear war will begin in (4) minutes...
Total nuclear war will begin in (4) minutes...​
 
11:37 AM
Got away safely!
 
Total nuclear war will begin in (4) minutes...
 
legionmammal
believe me
4=98
 
Total nuclear war will begin in (98) minutes...
 
98=10^99
true
 
11:38 AM
The game broke because of overflow!
 
how should i implement the tape in my program
I'm not sure how to do it without being to similar to bf
 
Total nuclear war will begin in (1902587519025875190258751902587519025875190258751902587519025875190258751902587‌​519025875190258) years (9) months (0) days (16) hours (40) minutes...
 
Total nuclear war will begin in (1902587519025875190258751902587519025875190258751902587519025875190258751902587‌​‌​519025875190258) years (9) months (0) days (16) hours (39) minutes...
 
1902587519025875190258751902587519025875190258751902587519025875190258751902587‌‌​​‌​519025875190258 = Grahams number ^ Grahams number
Graham's number is an unimaginably large number that is an upper bound on the solution to a certain problem in Ramsey theory. It is named after mathematician Ronald Graham who used the number as a simplified explanation of the upper bounds of the problem he was working on in conversations with popular science writer Martin Gardner. Gardner later described the number in Scientific American in 1977, introducing it to the general public. The number was published in the 1980 Guinness Book of World Records which added to the popular interest in the number. Graham's number, although smaller than TREE...
 
11:42 AM
Jun 15 at 17:55, by LegionMammal978
puts("Graham's number is approximately:");while(1)printf("10^");
Seriously though, even that program wouldn't output it in the lifespan of the universe
 
I think we broke it
 
how about a nice game of Go?
 
Total nuclear war will begin in (-850873456983746839563498756389457345836495723056734251278035671078410236454126‌​171032745612046307428360237514029836348901072457814635162345715279612345...
 
@El'endiaStarman Thats an interesting idea=)
 
11:47 AM
@El'endiaStarman What we are doing is we consider the orthogonal projection of a point on the plane to the curve. If there are multiple orthogonal projections, we consdier the one that is closest.
And orthogonal ir referring in this case is just the standard scalar product.
 
Error: OverflowException: The number you are trying to reach is too large for the datatype BigInteger
 
@aditsu Ohh, I'd like a nice game of Go.
 
wanna play? KGS?
 
I don't have a KGS.
Maybe in the chat Sandbox?
 
you can't have "a KGS"
KGS is a server where we can play
 
11:52 AM
Just an idea: Instead of looking at the ellipse, consider the ellipse as the image of a circle under a linear transformation. In this case we can diagonal linear transformations of the form [[1,0],[0,s]] where s is some scaling factor. So if we consider the scalar product under this transformation (which is again a scalar product). That might be easier to consider.
 
you can download and run the jar file
 
@aditsu I don't have Java.
 
oh ><
you can install java.. or we can play elsewhere
 
@aditsu In the chat Sandbox?
 
how would we play in chat?!
just type the move coordinates?
 
11:57 AM
@aditsu I post a goban, you make a move, and I feed back.
 
whatever, let's try then
where's the sandbox?
oh I think I found it
 
i 4m back
i have crashed python by typing 10**10**10 .___________________.
10**10**6 = 1(0*100000)
10**10**6 = 10<sup>100000</sup>
 
12:25 PM
50
A: Why does Python "preemptively" hang when trying to calculate a very large number?

El'endia StarmanTLDR: Python precomputes constants in the code. If any very large number is calculated with at least one intermediate step, the process will be CPU time limited. It took quite a bit of searching, but I have discovered evidence that Python 3 does precompute constant literals that it finds in th...

 
12:39 PM
that avatar looks familiar
 
@Quill Wow, you're right!
That stinker! They copied my idea!
 
In all seriousness, have an upvote
 
1:01 PM
nice -n-20 echo haha loser
 
@LegionMammal978 What is nice the Unix command?
 
@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 Lowers process priority, I put -20 as the nicevalue so it will be much less nice (i.e., have higher priority)
 
1:42 PM
Chat is dead
 
@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 Or is it? Dun DUN DUN
 
You revived chat! :D Thanks :3
 
@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 Yeah
 
And do you like it?
 
@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 Well, it already exists in the form of A. P. Goucher's Catagolue...
 
1:47 PM
o_o
 
> xp3_co9nas0san9oczgoldlo0oldlogz1047210127401
 
Yeah, I use the offline version of apgsearch for that...
 
^^ You must have hit a Methusaleh or something
 
@LegionMammal978 why your avatar is blank ?
 
Wait, no, just a pulsar
@TùxCräftîñg why your avatar is penguin ?
 
1:49 PM
because my name is TuxCrafting
 
@TùxCräftîñg well my name is Le gionMa mmal978
 
@LegionMammal978 What is gionMa?
 
@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 gionMa is a substring of LegionMammal978.
 
._______________.
 
1:53 PM
@LegionMammal978 ._.
 
> This pattern is a pattern.
thx captain obvious .__.
 
@TùxCräftîñg Where is it?
 
searched in apgsearch a pattern that i have found in your github
https://catagolue.appspot.com/object?apgcode=+xs14_69bqic&rule=b3s23
 
@TùxCräftîñg Oh, looks you accidentally put a space before the pattern apg code.
 
._________________________________.
 
2:18 PM
~0 is interpreted at -1 by the C# compiler .__. so i cant do byte b = ~0 ._____________________.
 
@TùxCräftîñg byte b = ((byte)(~((byte)(0))));
 
._.
0xFF is far simpler
than your solution
 
The poor man's redstone lamp.
 
Aww, I wish my laptop could handle minecraft
 
2:24 PM
I miss that
 
Console.SetOut .__.
SetOut still need a textwriter ._.
found
 
2:46 PM
@charredgrass (try) Win10 Edition?
 
mc win10 edition = mcpe--
the only minecraft is minecraft pc
 
@TùxCräftîñg Win10 editions uses C++ as opposed to Java and thus may run better on his (low end?) system
 
._. but Win10 edition is sh*t. really.
even mcpe is better
 
@TùxCräftîñg shit > nothing
 
3:29 PM
Hmm... who's interested in Conway's Game of Life?
 
probably the people working on that Tetris challenge
 
@PhiNotPi @El'endiaStarman are you interested in Conway's Game of Life?
 
3:48 PM
Can we think of a better title for this question? The current one is fairly non-descriptive.
 

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