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12:00 AM
(although the ü in your surname would be too loose, more like a long üh in führer)
 
right, but there's no reason to assume that's the case :P
 
@Doorknob 0/10 not a Mac
 
Alright @MartinBüttner
 
12:01 AM
@AlexA. Agreed. Except the first 1 in your message got cut off there. :)
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@Doorknob I've been very happy with my ThinkPad (W520), but I can't tell you more than that, because I never keep up with current hardware.
 
@Doorknob Both Lenovos I've had had problems after only a year or so. I don't know others' experiences, but I won't buy another.
 
@Doorknob ಠ_ಠ It did not get cut off. It was never there. ZERO OUT OF TEN.
 
You're not gonna keep Win 10 on it though, are you? If so, I can't recommend anything at all ;)
 
@Bálint remember the handy dandy edit button.. :P
@Geobits Other than a mac?
:P
 
12:03 AM
@Geobits Of course not. First thing I'll do is install Debian.
 
@Geobits Surely Lenovos are better than HP laptops. All of the people I know who've had them (myself included) have had to constantly replace pieces and fix issues.
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ What is this mac thing? Can't say I can recommend that either.
 
I probably put more money into fixing my HP laptop than I did buying it initially.
 
@AlexA. Never had an hp laptop, so don't know.
 
12:05 AM
Anyway, this one lets you swap out batteries while the machine is still running, which is pretty nifty.
 
Ooooooooh, mac. Right, right. The one that artists like to use because they're trying not to conform or something.
 
._.
 
Yet all their friends (and I use that term loosely) use the same thing ;)
 
@Doorknob Why in the world would that be a useful feature
 
@AlexA. lenovos are the computer world's Alfa Romeos
 
12:06 AM
They look nice but they're actually poorly built cars that require constant maintenance?
 
@AlexA. Battery running low -> take out battery -> put in new battery
 
(My dad has had a few Alfa Romeos)
@Doorknob Battery running low -> plug it in
 
@AlexA. A car disguised as a laptop? That's some Transformers-level stuff right there.
 
@Doorknob 10/10 would use that feature once and forget to charge the other battery ever.
 
12:07 AM
 
Yeah that looks about right
 
@AlexA. Frequently not an option at school / places that are not home
 
@Doorknob You have to turn into a car, Morty!
@Doorknob Where do you use your laptop where you aren't near a power source? Plus I feel like the equipment required to charge your laptop would be roughly equal in weight and size to a separate battery.
 
@Geobits Supposedly the internal battery plus the swappable external one is enough for 17 hours without even having to switch it out. That I doubt, but it certainly couldn't be too bad :P
 
Sure. I tried the whole "swappable phone battery" thing for a while. It was great, except I never ended up charging the one that was dead, so when I actually needed it....
The foresight is not strong with this one.
 
12:11 AM
@AlexA. My school has surprisingly few outlets around it, and also airplanes/etc. (the shiny new ones have power sources but most that I go on don't)
 
@Geobits What about the fivesight?
 
The fivesight is okay. Not great, but okay.
 
@Doorknob If the internal batteries are sufficient for 17 hours of use, surely that'd be sufficient for any reasonable plane trip or school day.
 
^ this. I'd much rather have a larger (even if a bit bulkier) main battery than have to carry around a spare.
 
@AlexA. That's the internal one plus a separate one (the one that can be switched out). And like I said, I doubt that's really the case :P
 
12:13 AM
On a related note, my phone battery is a couple years old and really starting to suck :(
It's hard to decide whether to get a new phone or just a new battery :/
 
On a unrelated note, @Doorknob either didn't notice me mentioning him or didn't deem to reply. :/
 
@Doorknob 1 plus thing wich can get broken
 
@Geobits Get a giant iphone, about 10".
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Eww. 5.x" is the sweet spot for phones.
For phones
 
What's the chat message length limit, again?
 
12:15 AM
500
 
@Geobits What type of phone is it?
 
@Bálint Nexus 5
@QPaysTaxes That's actually not as horrible as I was expecting it to be.
 
@Geobits You should get a new one, it may be cheaper.
 
I dunno, that's gonna make me feel very #firstworldproblems :P
 
@LegionMammal978 500 or infinity on multiple lines.
 
12:17 AM
Kinda like buying a new printer when the ink runs out.
 
@QPaysTaxes It's actually cheaper for some models, and I can affirm that I know people that have.
 
Kinda like buying a nee car instead of a trabant
 
@QPaysTaxes asdf repeated over and over.
> This sign is too goddamn big
fixed
o_O that new question
@QPaysTaxes relink?
 
Meeeee
 
12:19 AM
@QPaysTaxes I did, and responded to it :(
 
And me l? ._.
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ HAI
 
@QPaysTaxes Thanks! That's what most of my family and several friends always say.
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ HAI
 
12:20 AM
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ HAI
 
I'm never gonna "Give U Up"
 
@QPaysTaxes Is this by Calvin's Hobbies
 
HAI TO ALL AND TO ALL A GOOD HAI (drinkbai)
 
@QPaysTaxes Well that wasn't creepy at all.
 
@AlexA. i think so
 
12:20 AM
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ btw I thought your parents thought golfers were a bad influence
 
@QPaysTaxes Could have been a posthumous release
 
@Geobits Creepy people can't complain about other creepy people.
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ yep.
sssshhhh
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Yes we they can.
 
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12:21 AM
Too bad formatting doesn't work :p
 
@MartinBüttner is nice last I checked.
 
@AlexA. read this as post-hummus
 
@quartata Life after hummus is no life at all
 
Mmm hummus
 
Life after eating hummus is with a hole that can never be filled except by burgers with hummus on them.
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ wtf happened to the comic...
 
12:22 AM
finals
 
1
Q: Calculate the Trump Tax

TimtechIf elected president, Donald Trump plans to implement a system of four income tax brackets (full details can be found on his website here). Your job is to take two inputs, annual income and filing status (single, married, or head of household) and output the income tax that must be paid. Income ...

 
What the hell is hummus?
 
a spread made from chickpeas
 
12:23 AM
and very tasty
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ at the question or at @Bálint?
 
Hummus (/ˈhʊ.məs/, /ˈxʊ.mʊs/ or /ˈhʌ.məs/; Arabic: حُمُّص‎) is a Levantine and Egyptian food dip or spread made from cooked, mashed chickpeas or other beans, blended with tahini, olive oil, lemon juice, salt and garlic. Today, it is popular throughout the Middle East (including Turkey), North Africa (including Morocco), and in Middle Eastern cuisine around the globe. == Etymology and spelling == "Hummus" comes from the Arabic word حمّص (ḥummuṣ), meaning "chickpeas", and the complete name of the prepared spread in Arabic is حمّص بطحينة (ḥummuṣ bi ṭaḥīna), which means "chickpeas with tahini...
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Both, I suppose.
It worked out nicely.
 
okay
do you like hummus?
 
no
but ignorance is bad
 
12:24 AM
I'm asking my teacher if I can use J on the final :p
 
@QPaysTaxes ?
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ?
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ this
 
what is the final about?
 
Speaking of tasty spreads anyone here ever had baba ghanoush?
 
12:28 AM
I need to go, I'm tired
Good night everyone
 
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@quartata I like it better than hummus.
 
@mınxomaτ It's a spiky eared pichu
@AlexA. I really like it too
 
What do you guys think? How much information should we be allowed to encode into the second input?
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Q: Calculate the Trump Tax

TimtechIf elected president, Donald Trump plans to implement a system of four income tax brackets (full details can be found on his website here). Your job is to take two inputs, annual income and filing status (single, married, or head of household) and output the income tax that must be paid. Income ...

 
12:39 AM
user image
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@quartata ... I just realized what your avatar is... noice?
 
12:59 AM
@LegionMammal978 took me a bit to figure that out.
 
Hello all :D
 
Greetings
 
The bounty on my quipu challenge ends in 7 hours and the Pyth answer is sitting clear above every other answer on that challenge. Should I bite the bullet and award the bounty to Kenny's well-done Pyth answer, or wait till those 7 hours are up?
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Q: Counting Quipu: Base 10 in the New World

Sherlock9Quipus are an ancient device used by the Inca in the Precolumbian era to record numbers in a base ten positional system of knots on a cord, which works as follows: Each cluster of knots is a digit, and there are three main types of knots: simple overhand knots; "long knots", consisting of an ...

 
1:09 AM
Should this be made a standard loophole?
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A: Calculate the Trump Tax

Kenny LauPyth, 32 26 24 6 bytes JQ.vCE Test suite. 74892585093965377905208487730659359537614936740881725652453863997600444976 = single 74892585093965377905208487730659359537614936740881725652668629404830675504 = married 74892585093965377905208487730659359537614936740881725652526490039149933104 = head...

 
I'm not sure how it works, so maybe?
 
@Sherlock9 There are two inputs. The second input can be three numbers that we choose.
I encoded the whole program into the second input
 
The numbers he picked encode the program in base 256
ninja'd
My internet is being weird today
@KennyLau I think it's allowed although it's debatable whether or not that falls under one of the input loopholes
 
@quartata It is allowed but all standard loopholes are technically allowed also
 
That's not what I meant by allowed
 
1:13 AM
@Dennis Hi, what's your opinion on this?
@quartata Oh, you meant that it should not be made a standard loophole?
 
No, I didn't say that.
 
Then what did you mean?
 
What I said was "I think this doesn't fall under any standard loopholes"
 
Alright.
 
@KennyLau son you have done good things but wtf is that ._.
 
1:16 AM
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Entire program encoded in base256
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I/O format abuse eleven
 
I know, but woah
reminds me of a challenge I made once
shudders
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Which challenge?
 
I'd rather not link it. It's not exactly a piece of artwork
 
You know, you only posted 26 questions
It's not a pain for me to scroll through them all.
 
1:18 AM
go ahead :3
 
But I won't, lol
 
XD
Chat mini challenge: given a number N, output it written in "square root form"; that is, take a number N, pretend it's under a square root, and write it in proper radical form.
e.g., 72 => 6, 2
 
you meant 6, 2
 
From the OP: Just don't be ridiculous.
Just sayin' :P
 
1:23 AM
closed as too broad
 
@KennyLau Oh I agree, but it still qualifies as 'ridiculous' to me ;)
As far as standard loopholes go, it doesn't fit any of them exactly, but this one is probably closest:
 
@Dennis Is there an inverse to ,? Like given a pair set the first element as the left argument and the second as the right
 
62
A: Loopholes that are forbidden by default

Martin BüttnerAdding input or rules which weren't explicitly mentioned in the challenge There was recently a case where an answerer claimed Nowhere does it say the program can't (also) ask the user what the [result] is. Adding additional input or new rules, because they haven't been explicitly forbidden...

 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ J*F+1rm,%hd2edrPQ8 9@/QJ2J
@Geobits Which is why the question I'm asking is "should this be made a standard loophole" instead of "is this a standard loophole".
 
Right right. This is like exploiting a bug and telling the team afterward :P
 
1:27 AM
Exactly.
 
@Geobits Didn't you advocate exactly this earlier?
 
Well, as a joke, yes.
 
May 10 at 16:57, by Geobits
I always thought you were supposed to exploit it first, then report it.
@Geobits ;)
 
I knew someone was going to bring that up ;)
 
1:28 AM
@quartata There's no way to tamper with the arguments except creating chains, but you can reduce over a pair with /.
 
Anyway, I've gotta be off. Have fun with the exploits! :D
 
bai
to anyone who knows J: how do I flatten a boxed list of arrays into a contiguous array? E.g. (1 2 ; 3 4 ; 5 ; 6 7 8 => 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8)
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ It's right in front of your eyes
;
 
really
I feel so dumb XD
thanks
 
no problem
 
1:33 AM
Geez, Kenny :D How many languages do you know?
 
@KennyLau your thing isn't optimally golfed, you can do .vC
 
@Sherlock9 With the help of docs, every.
 
he knows a hole heck of a lot
 
@Sherlock9 Without docs, none.
 
Fair enough XD
 
1:34 AM
jolf has half docs. so you should know it halfway :p
 
@Maltysen It would decode the first input?
 
@Dennis I feel dumb. Suppose I have an array as a left argument and a number as the right argument. I want to pop () from the array and place the result in the right argument, but Ṫ{ operates directly on the left argument
I'm not too good at this stuff in general
 
@KennyLau does he enforce input order? If not you can use w/E
 
ok, thanks
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ which chat thing
I've written like over 9000 chat extensions for different stuff
 
1:36 AM
@quartata So, what you want to do is V = V + F(λ)?
 
@KennyLau actually, two bytes, "vC"
 
@Maltysen v doesn't work.
 
just encode the transpiled code with C
@KennyLau yeah it does, just not online
 
well ok...
I think the author is closing this loophole, so...
 
0
A: Pushing items in the sequence

MaltysenPyth - 10 / 1 byte + 1 = 11 Really cheaty, but it seems allowed, basically puts all the code in the options. Doing bonus now. It takes an array of ints, with 0 as falsey. The left value is: Y.append(eval(input())) or [i for i in Y[0] if i] + [0]*Y[0].count(0) The right value is: Y.append(eval...

 
1:38 AM
@KennyLau I just want ρ = F(λ)
 
@quartata I think you can't change the right argument in the link
@QPaysTaxes hash?
 
 
@QPaysTaxes Not sure if this could help you:
0
Q: Random access to hash map values

user965942What's the best way to design such a container, which can support randomized value access? but the container has to support other operations, such as insert key/value pairs and remove by key, with the best possible time performance. One way to do this is to combine hash map with array, but if ha...

@Maltysen Well, ok...
 
another J question: what's the shortest way to get the smallest nonzero element from an array?
good to note
 
@quartata You cannot change the right argument, just call a new link/chain with the desired value as right argument. If you have [a, b] and you want to compute a+b, you use +/. If you have [a, b, c] and you want to compute [a+c, b+c], you use +Ṫ$ (without the $ if it's at the beginning of a monadic chain). The atom + can be replaced with a helper link reference such as ç.
 
1:45 AM
Wear is actually coverall's method name ._.
 
@QPaysTaxes that's what I'm doing, but it's long
 
@QPaysTaxes it is
@QPaysTaxes I am not coding in Ruby yet but I am actively learning it
 
<./@([:([:;<;._1)0&,)
so long ._.
rollercoaster of emotions
 
@Quill have you got coveralls working, or at least uploading?
 
I hope he wears coveralls whilst working
 
1:53 AM
@Downgoat Somehow I broke my mocha setup
 
@Quill how?
 
I reinstalled node last night and renamed my system profile
 
.._. wyh
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ({.@/:~@#~)
{.@  NB. head of
/:~@ NB. sorted of
#~   NB. black magic that removes 0
 
o_o
ah
it repeats each elements self times
 
1:55 AM
bingo
 
that's clever!
 
thanks
Credits to this guy
20
A: How to filter a list in J?

Yasir ArsanukaevThe short answer 2 (~: # ]) 3 2 2 7 7 2 9 3 7 7 9 The long answer I have the answer for you, but before you should get familiar with some details. Here we go. Monads, dyads There are two types of verbs in J: monads and dyads. The former accept only one parameter, the latter accept two pa...

 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ are you starting to like J more than JavaScript? D:
 
@Downgoat As much as I like J, I can't use it for conventional programming.
I just like to be involved in a distraction :p
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Why not? You can make C calls with it
Should be all you ever need
 
1:58 AM
wat
@quartata how
 
@Dennis doesn't seem to modify z despite what the wiki says
 

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