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2:05 AM
TIL Pinned messages stay pinned even after they get moved.
So now "WELCOME TO THE TRASH, SMALL PEOPLE!!!" is pinned to the trash.
 
does anyone here happen to know how Steam works?
 
Internet
 
Majik.
 
Games go through Internet tubes
 
and avocad juic.
 
2:06 AM
also called intertubes
 
Pays moneys. Buy license. Download. Play. Share. Achievements.
 
@AlexA. I thought it worked by when water boils ._.
 
@AlexA. like the hyperloop? I KNEW ELON MUSK DIDN'T INVENT THAT!!!
 
The Hyperloop goes through a tube tube
 
I installed TF2 on a separate content folder and now it's not showing up :(
 
2:07 AM
Install it in the right folder then
 
I did
 
Ask @quartata, he knows things
 
@quartata
 
Particularly Steamy things ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 
¯\_( ͡ಠ ͜ʖ ͡ಠ) _/¯
 
2:08 AM
@Downgoat oooh, I know how to fix this
 
pls halp
 
Ask @Quill, he knows things
 
@Quill do you watch monogatari series?
 
@AlexA. Apparently I didn't know enough not to buy a Mac with 128GB storage
@Maltysen I haven't, I don't even know the order, it's definitely on my list to watch eventually though
 
@Quill but an exeternal drive I got a 3TB one for like only $200
 
2:10 AM
exactly, I got 1TB for $80, but it's a USB port used, which is a sacrifice when you only have two
 
@Quill Just binge watch the OPs in a row and that'll make you want to watch it :P
 
@Quill you should watch it. A super giant cliffhanger just happened in the last episode of this season, and Shaft is busy with the prequel movies, so we have to wait like 8 months D:
 
@Downgoat: Steam -> Preferences -> Downloads -> Steam Library Folders -> Select the folder
 
detailed picture with freehand circles
 
@Sp3000 hahaha the monogatari ops and eds are like all I listen to
staple stable is best song ever
 
2:12 AM
have you already downloaded TF2?
 
yes
 
There's... about 4 I could list from the series I prefer over staple stable :P
 
it is on the second folder (the one's that default)
it says "Installed 2"
 
@Sp3000 did you watch the koyomimonogatari ending?
 
Not yet - I only caught up on Owari the other day
I was trying to watch Koyomi via the Japanese app, but it wouldn't load :/
 
2:14 AM
ah that ending with that talisman was pretty badass
 
I opened Steam and now my computer is a leafblower...
 
Multiple things do that to my computer. Steam does it, as does building GCC from source.
 
why are you boilding GCC from source ._.
and how do yuo do that without GCC in the first place
 
Homebrew, dawg
 
homebrew === brew?
 
2:17 AM
The brew command is for Homebrew, if that's what you mean
 
oh, yes
I thought your computer launched into space, not become a leafblower
 
brew install gcc and watch your fan go nuts for like an hour and a half.
 
ok, thx
 
@Downgoat hahaha I'm amused you remember that wording. Yes, it usually ends up in space, though I could probably harnass its power for leaf blowing.
 
I once overheated my computer so much it had a kernel panic and so I panicked...
 
2:19 AM
Oh jeez
 
it didn't work for the following couple days...
 
How?
How did
 
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
bai, I'm going to go play TF2 now that it finished reinstalling...
 
One time my girlfriend left her phone close to a heater and when she checked it next it said it had exceeded its maximum operating temperature.
 
@AlexA. did it shutdown or just show the "overheating" screen?
 
2:20 AM
This was a while ago. I want to say it did both but I don't really recall.
 
oh, ok
 
When you watch the terminal title bar frantically flash from ruby to file to homebrew to bash and back. Surprisingly satisfying.
 
haha
 
hey, it is kinda cool
oh and bash.
 
Yeah, it is.
I like seeing all of the things that it's doing.
 
2:23 AM
IKR?
 
2:37 AM
Are you British?
Okay
 
@QPaysTaxes New Zealander, actually.
Which *was*/is part of the British Commonwealth.
So, not quite that far off. :P
 
Is, I believe
We're still stuck too, so they probably are :P
 
@QPaysTaxes Australians.
Y'know, history is typically taught poorly in school (just like math), but some aspects are fascinating. Like just how much of the world used to be under control of Great Britain. Which, remember, is a tiny island nation.
 
2:56 AM
I know.
 
@QPaysTaxes Woah big octopi!
 
Someone I know made an interesting browser-based game: rachelwigell.github.io/AquiSim
 
The game's theme is "fish tank" complete with "actual chemistry"
 
@Doorknob Oh no. Randall made this another long-term game.
 
3:03 AM
@PhiNotPi how to i play it?
 
@El'endiaStarman Flashbacks to Time. :P
 
@Downgoat There's sections to "add fish" "add plants" etc. with various dropdown menus and buttons.
Clicking on the tank releases food.
 
Yup, the octopi in mine mutated as well.
 
@QPaysTaxes zoom out?
You also have to manage ammonia/nitrite/nitrate/bacteria levels
It's actually a really complicated game, from what I can tell.
 
@PhiNotPi oh :| didn't see those
 
3:13 AM
@PhiNotPi That's why I tried like one thing and then closed the tab. :P
 
It's 2.5D (2D perspective but 3D simulation)
fish swim in schools and everything
 
@Downgoat it works now :D
 
3:32 AM
Also cool, by the same person: rachelwigell.github.io/Psychedelic-Field-Lines
 
@Downgoat lol you followed Love Calculator?
 
I should of just starred it
 
@Downgoat starred* thats what I meant
You wanna help out? Or just watching it?
 
@AshwinGupta I might when I have time... I'm very busy on Cheddar
 
@Downgoat oh yeah that's right, GL with that
you are making pretty good progess
I was looking at your parsers
 
3:43 AM
@PhiNotPi Oooh, that's cool.
 
There's links at the bottom of the page to her other stuff.
 
1
Q: Find the first word starting with each letter

Washington GuedesGiven a string, find the first word starting with each letter (case insensitive). Sample Using Ferulas flourish in gorgeous gardens. as input: "Ferulas flourish in gorgeous gardens." ^^^^^^^ ^^ ^^^^^^^^ | | | | | --> is the first word starting with `...

 
4:04 AM
@GamrCorps Thanks, I was trying to <pre>, but didn't realise I needed to escape the <
 
np
 
Hmm apparently the space needs escaping too
 
which space?
 
The fourth line is a single space
 
that shows up for me just fine... well the code is &#32 if you need it, but when I highlight it it shows a single space there.
Oh you got it already, nevermind
 
4:10 AM
Yeah, it didn't show up for me after your revision (link), dunno :/
&#, will keep in mind
 
Wow that is odd... it doesn't show up in the revision for me either but it showed up in the post just fine. Weird.
 
Before or after I edited it?
 
before. So my revision
 
Hmm weird
 
Hey all
 
4:21 AM
@Sherlock9 Hello to the.....Malaysian?
 
Why is enumerate such a long word?
 
@Dennis What would you propose in its place?
@El'endiaStarman ?
 
@AlexA. Trying to remember where he lives.
 
Indonesia
 
4:25 AM
@Dennis Cos PEP279
 
@AlexA. list, count, tally, 'merate
 
s/Malaysian/Indonesian/ :P
 
@HelkaHomba None of those are as immediately descriptive as enumerate in terms of the name of a function.
 
iterindexed()-- five syllables is a mouthful
index()      -- nice verb but could be confused the .index() method
indexed()    -- widely liked however adjectives should be avoided
indexer()    -- noun did not read well in a for-loop
count()      -- direct and explicit but often used in other contexts
itercount()  -- direct, explicit and hated by more than one person
iteritems()  -- conflicts with key:value concept for dictionaries
itemize()    -- confusing because amap.items() != list(itemize(amap))
 
:(
Adds so many bytes to each answer.
 
4:27 AM
I assume you're using either Python or Julia. They're the only languages I know of that have enumerate
 
I'm diamondizing in Python.
 
And also enumerating, I take it
 
Pretty much.
 
I break enough existing conventions that I'm probably just gonna go with \enum() for Pytek. :P
 
+1 I like that
 
4:29 AM
Martin took all my usual toys, so I had to play with something else.
 
Didn't anyone teach that boy to share his toys???
 
/me goes to take all of Dennis' other toys
 
Get 'em with your slingshot
 
Sp3000 has a slingshot?!
 
It's okay, Dennis. I'll share my toys with you.
 
4:30 AM
@El'endiaStarman No, Dennis
 
Oh, right, 'cause Dennis.
 
Sp3000 has a delivery spaceship
 
@Sp3000 That's pretty much what happens every time I post a Python answer. Not you specifically, but...
 
I did that more last year - not as much now though :P
 
The rare times when someone posts a Julia answer that's how I feel.
 
4:32 AM
@HelkaHomba That, I do. Also recycled sandwiches
 
@El'endiaStarman That's like saying "Hello, Yankees fan" to someone from Massachusetts :D
 
Hahaha, yeah... >_>"
 
Oh, you've already posted.
Hmm 91, eh
 
Yeah, not exactly breath taking...
 
4:37 AM
TIL that some golfs are like falling flat on one's back.
 
???
 
<_<
Y'know...breath-taking...
 
ಠ_ಠ
 
7/10 very cryptic
 
I'll see myself out.
 
4:41 AM
@Dennis There you go :)
 
In vim, can I put a metacharacter in a range?
 
In Vim, you can do whatever your heart desires
 
I'm trying this /[^\h ] to match everything thing that isn't \h or a space.
 
or was that a feature of Emacs...
 
Woop nvm, forgot to test for 1x1
 
4:43 AM
What on Earth does map(None, ...) do?
 
zip_longest, but annoyingly pads missing spots with None
 
Does anyone know how to do that? It's for a golf, if that makes it better.
 
Yeah nvm, this doesn't work for matrices with a single row, because map(None,*[[1]]) is [1] but map(None,*[[1],[2]]) is [(1,2)]
Oh well, gotta try and beat Dennis another way :/
 
@Sp3000 That's annoying. :/
 
I can patch it in 11 bytes if I append [[0]] to L to guarantee at least two rows, then remove it
Oh wait, I think I might have something...
88's not too bad
 
4:53 AM
What's everyone's proudest golfing achievement?
If you have one
 
22 mins ago, by Dennis
@Sp3000 That's pretty much what happens every time I post a Python answer. Not you specifically, but...
 
:D
 
I was really proud of codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/77263/… until the extra chars I missed threw me off. I thought I was even beating retina.
 
21
A: Beatles Songs and Hexagons

El'endia StarmanBefunge-93, width = 13 15, titles = 31 24 chars A power outage last night prevented me from updating this when I figured it out, but I managed to reduce the triangle width and increase the song lengths! Pointing-up program: "Dig a Pony", 10 characters: v v> v# > "< v <>

First answer ever, still my favorite. ^_^
 
@HelkaHomba Not pandering to you or anything, but I spent the longest time pure golfing on Quilt
 
4:56 AM
:J
(That looks like a smiley in most fonts, right?)
 
It looks like you dislocated your jaw a little to the right
 
haha ^ that
 
@AlexA. is this you on this lion?:
 
Yes
 
@AlexA. wow, you are very brave
 
5:07 AM
And his last name means "lion" too!
 
@El'endiaStarman Have I mentioned that before or do you know some Tatar? o_O
 
@AlexA. You've mentioned it before. :P
Came up when talking about Aslan.
 
Oh right
 
@Sp3000 Do you need the 0 in [0]?
 
Yes, Aslan is Turkish and Arslan is Tatar. Both mean lion.
 
5:09 AM
@AlexA. As in Turkish delight? Curious.
 
@Sp3000 I just realized it's been slightly over a year since SphiNotPi3000
 
@Dennis Oh, I... don't. Thanks! (looks weird though)
Indeed it has, good times :P
I really expected the other team to come with a bot just to take us down
 
ye gads
 
@HelkaHomba I thought Turkish Delight was a kind of cigarette? No, I mean "aslan" is a Turkish word that means "lion."
 
@AlexA. Turkish Delight, at least in C.S. Lewis' book The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe, was a sweet treat.
 
5:11 AM
Oh
 
Where Aslan the lion is also from
 
Turkish delight, lokum or rahat lokum and many other transliterations (Ottoman Turkish: رَاحَة الْحُلْقُوم‎ rāḥat al-ḥulqūm, Turkish: Lokum or rahat lokum, from colloquial Arabic: راحه الحلقوم‎ rāḥat al-ḥalqūm) is a family of confections based on a gel of starch and sugar. Premium varieties consist largely of chopped dates, pistachios, and hazelnuts or walnuts bound by the gel; traditional varieties are mostly flavored with rosewater, mastic, Bergamot orange, or lemon. The confection is often packaged and eaten in small cubes dusted with icing sugar, copra, or powdered cream of tartar, to prevent...
 
@El'endiaStarman and it is a real candy
 
@HelkaHomba That I knew also.
 
Maybe it's just me, but Turkish delight's never done anything to, well, delight me
 
5:13 AM
Though I didn't like it as I recall
 
@Sp3000 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 
@HelkaHomba You know Aplets & Cotlets in Cashmere?
I guess those are similar to Turkish delights.
At least based on the Wikipedia description of the latter.
 
Yes, I've tried their stuff actually, but never liked it :S
 
Same
 
Almond Roca is where it's at
 
5:17 AM
I know I've had that but I can't remember what it's like
 
I would almost agree with Almond Roca if I didn't eat too much of it a few years back :/
 
I thought Almond Roca was a Washington thing. TIL.
(the manufacturer is in Tacoma)
 
Really? hmm
 
I thought it was just a Costco thing
 
Oh right, they sold them at Costco
Which is also a Washington company B)
 
5:24 AM
Or, at least, that's basically the only good way to get them here :P
 
Australia has Costco? Wouldn't have thought
 
Dunno, looks like a moth stealing a vibe
@HelkaHomba Apparently, although the membership's expensive so you tend to get your friend's friend who has the card...
 
@HelkaHomba I think pretty much all reasonably developed nations have a Costco
 
@Sp3000 $60/year IIRC (and that's true)
 
5:26 AM
Meanwhile, I seem to have grown a SALE sign
 
@Sp3000 I have multiple
Here and here
 
Ah, 3. I see
 
@AlexA. Millions of people round the globe have no clue why their toilet paper says "Kirkland" :P
 
XD
 
Hmm I guess $60's not too bad, but we'd never really go there much (there's nothing we really need from there other than, say, exotic snacks)
 
5:27 AM
(or does it say Kirkland @Sp?)
 
Yeah, @Sp3000, what does your toilet paper say?
 
Er... dunno, we don't buy toilet paper from there :P
 
So I guess Costco has warehouses in the US, Puerto Rico, Canada, Mexico, the UK, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Australia, and Spain.
@HelkaHomba Apparently they have 8
 
5:32 AM
 
TIL what Sp's TP looks like
 
Razer TP?
 
@Sp3000 Did the Great Gazoo just photobomb you?
 
@HelkaHomba I think it's funny that Costco's brand is Kirkland Signature when the headquarters have since moved from Kirkland to Issaquah.
 
Issaquah is harder to pronounce
 
5:34 AM
But it's objectively superior because it's where I grew up. :P
 
@MarsUltor Razer Blackwidow apparently - not mine though
 
That's not your toilet paper?
Why are you taking pictures of other people's toilet paper, @Sp3000?
 
And how did you do it so quickly?
Well, at least it was new.
 
I feel like all Costcos look basically the same, with the sole exception of this one in Melbourne:
 
-1
Q: assembly greatest common divisor

Mike ShlantaAnyone game for some assembly code golf? your inputs are already in EAX and EBX, they are unsigned 32bit ints. code length will be measured in the raw bytes produced by the assembler (for nasm that would be nasm -f bin) This is my best effort at 14 bytes. gcd0: xor dx,dx ...

 
5:41 AM
@AlexA. \W instead of [^\w]
(or does Julia not have that?)
 
Oh that's what you're talking about. Thanks!
It uses PCRE so that should be good
 
After I finishing Cheddar I am never using fucking JavaScript for any projects ever again...
 
Still looking darn expensive though, hmm
 
What is? Costco?
 
@Sp3000 PCRE?
 
5:44 AM
Julia
 
oh
Julia is free?
 
Yes. You have it on your computer.
 
Right, numpy has diagonal...
 
@Downgoat Why not?
 
it is the worst ;_;
 
5:51 AM
Hmm
 
@AlexA. Is it any better to keep a set of seen first chars, and only add a word if its first char is not in the set? Maybe the single pass might help, dunno
 
Then PyPy > SpiderMonkey?
 
@Sp3000 Hm that's a good idea, I'll check that out soon. (Heading to bed soon also though so it might be tomorrow)
 
6:09 AM
@Sp3000 129 now! \o/
Getting better
 
:)
What's the deleteat! for again? Didn't get that part
 
Thanks for your help!
deleteat! deletes elements of the array at specified indices
 
Oh, so deleteat!'s actually cheaper than pushing the ones at the indices we want? Interesting...
 
I think so
I'm trying a different approach atm now though
 
Hello
 
6:21 AM
@zyabin101 hello
 
@Downgoat Why is your goat upside down but the -1 not?
 
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
because I'm a downgoat not a down -1
 
@Sp3000 102!
(just explaining now)
 
:) nice
Meanwhile I learn that I clearly don't know Retina enough
 
Thanks for all your help. I'm off to bed now.
o/
 
6:29 AM
Night!
 
@HelkaHomba Let me look through my answers
Might be this:
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A: Help, I'm trapped in a Sierpinski triangle!

Sherlock9Ruby, 195 194 190 bytes Original: With apologies to Ell, as this is essentially a port of their answer and with many thanks to Doorknob for their help in debugging this answer. There's probably another algorithm for this problem - something to do with *f[x[0,**however far x matches with y**],y...

I was proud to have answered that question at all :D
And I did manage to create a different algorithm for that answer, even if that algorithm was longer
 
I shall be making two new languages; both shall be prefix.
Hence, they shall be named preposterous and pretzel.
Example code (fibonacci) for each:
# preposterous, "normal"
	(fib n := if < n 2 (n) else (+ fib -  n 1 fib - n 2))

 # pretzel, golfy
	,R1+;
 
6:45 AM
Why - 1 n and not - n 1?
 
# preposterous, "normal"
(fib n := if < n 2 (n) else (+ fib - 1 n fib - 2 n))

# pretzel, golfy
,R1+;
 
true
 
FTFY
Also, it will be like Lisp?
 
No. parens () just denote a lambda/function expression.
 
but
 
6:46 AM
The operands of the if statement are in parens so they are lazily-evaluated.
 
isn't lisp prefix
 
@MarsUltor yes. I'm not basing it off lisp though. it's not gonna be a functional language (mostly).
 
@Cyoce Should be easy to create a language that doesn't function :P
 
@Sherlock9 ಠ_ಠ
 
7:15 AM
@NathanMerrill There's a GraphLayout option that lets you choose an algorithm for the layouter. Don't know if one of them styles edge lengths according to weight, but I can have a look. They are largely undocumented beyond their name though.
I think GraphLayout -> {"SpringEmbedding", "EdgeWeighted" -> True} might be what you're looking for.
hm, that does the opposite: higher weights give longer edges.
you could subtract each edge weight from max(weights)+1 before rendering I guess
 
7:32 AM
Oh yeah!
Congratulations to @AlexA. @MartinBüttner @Doorknob and @Dennis on winning the election!
 
thanks :)
 
In the new sequel to The Monuments Men, a group of fearless soldiers fight for truth, civil discussion and quality challenges in "The Moderator Men"
o7
 
@MartinBüttner Are you there?
Mod related stuff.
 
Also, congratulations on @MartinBüttner on (somehow) geting almost 100% votes over the threshold.
 
7:38 AM
thanks again :)
 
Can this question be taken off hold?
 
That's not mod related stuff. :) ... The community is perfectly capable of reopening it themselves. I'll have a look, but I'm not sure I'll reopen it since I wasn't involved in the comments and closing at all so far.
 
@MartinBüttner Don't forget to update your profile as you're no longer a pro tempore mod but an official one :)
 
oh right I already wanted to do that yesterday
thanks for the reminder
done
 
You now have the full official mod kit :D
 
7:48 AM
@HelkaHomba that's easy! :)
33
A: Golf you a quine for great good!

Martin BüttnerPrelude, 5157 4514 2348 1761 1537 664 569 535 423 241 214 184 178 175 169 148 142 136 133 bytes Thanks to Sp3000 for saving 3 bytes. This is rather long... (okay, it's still long ... at least it's beating the shortest known Brainfuck C# quine on this challenge now) but it's the first quine I di...

 
@MartinBüttner Wow, this is rather impressive!
 
thanks
well maybe my original score was just exceptionally bad... :D
 
0
Q: Are any of these bracket-fixing challenges duplicate?

Martin BüttnerWhile collecting a list of all challenges related to balanced strings I found that we have (at least) 4 challenges related to fixing unbalanced strings by adding or removing parentheses/braces/brackets. I haven't compared the specs in detail yet, but I figured there is likely going to be some ove...

 
Discovering new quines can be tricky, so I wouldn't say it was bad in itself ^^
 
which reminds me that I still need to work on that Hexagony quine...
some time...
 
7:54 AM
Will you try to find some brute-force solution?
(I was one post where you found 50+ optimal solutions this way, and it was a really good reading!)
 
well that was just brute-forcing 6-byte solutions which is somewhat doable within a few hours. the Hexagony quine is currently at 700 bytes :P
it might be possible to halve that score or something, but it's not going to get anywhere near being brute-forcible.
 
Wow, 700 bytes! how can you still read and understand that piece of code? Oo
 
yeah, the actual code is fairly simple. half of the code is just a huge number encoding the rest, and the other half uses space really inefficiently due to some mathematical constraints on the current approach to writing a quine. the actual algorithm is implemented in something like 20 or 30 bytes. (it's here btw codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/74294/8478 but I never added an explanation because I wanted to keep trying smaller sizes)
all the . are no-ops, all the # are unused, and the left and right end of each line is a fixed pattern that just weaves the instruction pointer back and forth through the upper half of the code.
I've definitely written more complicated Hexagony programs that I'd have a harder time understanding now
 
Hum, it's sad to se some lines fed with no-ops only (or for 1 useful char), Also, I don't get why each of your instructions have to be separated by no-ops but i'll assume it was mandatory ^^
 
8:10 AM
yeah, the main problem is that I can only use the upper half for the encoding. since the encoding is base-10, but the actual code at the bottom uses ASCII which needs at least something like base-60 (depending on the range of characters you actually use), I can't possibly encode the complete bottom half in the top half. one way to fix that is to encode only every other character which at least lets me span the entire bottom half at the expense of a lot of unused space.
 
Oh, it makes sense now, didn't even think of that
 
8:32 AM
@HelkaHomba I'd like to revise my earlier answers. I'm quite happy with the following two, one of which I just edited
3
A: Map string to Hilbert curve

Sherlock9Python 3, 467 434 423 457 451 426 386 374 342 291 * 80% * 95% = 221.16 bytes The way this works is that I make the Hilbert curve using a Lindenmayer system and follow the left, right and forward instructions along an array of strings. There are probably many ways this could be golfed better, t...

6
A: Counting Quipu: Base 10 in the New World

Sherlock9Python 3, 624 598 595 574 561 535 532 527 525 426 345 328 324 294 288 286 283 280 267 265 255 251 245 bytes Well, since this question needed an answer, I have provided one here, where the input should be a space-separated string of numbers, such as "204 1". Boy, is it a long one. Any golfing ...

 
0
A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Albert MasclansIn this challenge you are supposed to output a grid 10x10 with numbers from 00 to 99 (each number once) following this rules: Number 00 must be on the bottom row Number 99 must be on the upper row In the output each number must be sepparated by spaces and must have two digits (that is including...

 

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