The Nineteenth Byte

@Doorknob do you know Retina?

@zyabin101 Retina, 4 bytes: [][]

\(O_o)/

4:05 PM

That's the one I was waiting for. :)

I thought you were waiting for Jelly, cos here I was trying to turn a string into an empty list in one char

@Sp3000 I thought it was two blank character sets.

@zyabin101 Well here's something for you to try: shortest Retina program to count number of ^-[]

Hint: no backslashes needed

Doorknob

[]^[-]? or with the ^/[ swapped

Zgarb

@Dennis Haskell, 25 bytes (and somewhat boring): length.filter(`elem`"[]")

4:07 PM

@Sp3000 Retina, 6 bytes:

[][^-]

Yeah, either of those :)

Pyth is possible in 4 btw (with our standard rules for I/O).

wat

@Doorknob dat

@zyabin101 ummm

4:10 PM

l@`Y I presume (and I don't even Pyth :P)

That's the one.

@MartinBüttner \(O_o)/

unequal glasses emoji?

Hence why I was trying to empty list in Jelly, but given how <dyad> <monad> is parsed, I'll probably end up wasting a byte anyway to get len to not stick to the dyad

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ FOG is tied with NTFJ for the shortest infinite loop with no ouput. :P.

4:15 PM

@Sp3000 The shortest way I could find in Jelly was the straightforward f“[]”L, which is 1 byte longer than f“”ŒṘ$L with repr.

Yeah... needing $ kinda kills any chances

Needs moar two-byte constants. Ø[ for “[]”, for example.

@Dennis what I/O should I use for my language?

@TonHospel a few thousand decimal places!

Hi @El'endiaStarman!

Ton Hospel

4:23 PM

@lembik: No, won't pursue that. Though it beats anything from a certain precision on the startup cost seems staggeringly high

El'endia Starman

Hello

Ton Hospel

@lembik: O(4^n)

@El'endiaStarman geom.uiuc.edu/~huberty/math5337/groupe/digits.html

@Solver I feel like I'm missing context.

@TonHospel It seems that with m = n/2 we can get to n= 28 now. I am still confused why the worst case is not m= n/2 though

@TonHospel :)

4:24 PM

@Solver Fax

@Dennis Like, how should my language take input for the program and args? Should it read from a file, should it have keyboard input, e.t.c.

@Dennis github.com/Ojas-Gulati/cookie

waits for FaxMachine to appear

@Geobits wat is Fax?

Alex isn't around, so I doubt Fax is.

4:25 PM

@Geobits it sounds old

@Dennis drrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr BEEEEEP

No, it's the newest thing

@Geobits :P

@Solver What language? For what purpose?

Ton Hospel

@lembik: Oh, you didn't yet get to the point where it gets faster with increasing n ? Try m=17 n=34 or so as a joke

4:26 PM

@Geobits that's kewl - what about laser printers and avocad

I've never laser printed an avocad. If you want juic, try 3D printer instead.

@Dennis Like, PPCG challenges - like Jelly, or CJam

@TonHospel ok doing it

Optimizer

@Geobits ink jet will give better juic

@Solver Are you designing a language or participating in a contest?

4:27 PM

@Geobits need 3d printer for avocad. and juic

@Dennis Designing a language.

@quartata o/

tri for thirtee minut and onli 'avocad jam tray 2'

TimmyD

git cake ... mmm, cake.

@Geobits avocad on fire

@Geobits why not tray avocodad

4:28 PM

we need your tax money though!

@QPaysTaxes avocad is good for you, take avocad now.

@Solver That's totally up to you then. Just make sure it's covered by our defaults.

@QPaysTaxes Just the wall. Need more monies for juic.

@QPaysTaxes block and a boolean

^

@QPaysTaxes Let that be your guide in all you do :P

(except golf, of course)

4:31 PM

@Dennis Is i/o from files okay?

I think you might have (some) people avoid it if the only i/o is files. It's kinda a pain.

@TonHospel Took 103.140123844 seconds !

@TonHospel so why is it doing this?

this seems very surprising

@Solver Why can't you just read input from STDIN?

@QPaysTaxes That was spoken by a linux folk ;)

@QPaysTaxes Why not both? Evaluate if it's a block, take literally otherwise.

4:32 PM

You could do command line arguments for input too I suppose

@quartata okey dope (stdin is keyboard, right?)

@Solver yes

@quartata good. Thanks!

@TonHospel I mean why doesn't it carry on getting slower as n increases?

@QPaysTaxes My lang would go like 'statement that evals to true or false'i'statement to be executed if true'}

@QPaysTaxes Well done! Esoteric means creativity. I haven't written an esolang yet, because I don't have any good ideas.

@QPaysTaxes same here in a golfing lang

epicTCK

4:48 PM

Goodness. Why are programmers always so opinionated about everything? languages, OS's , double or single quotes, tabs or spaces, best practices, etc

could anyone point me to a good explanation on C's pointers? They are really confusing me right now...

@Downgoat I am online if you need help on that grunt question