The Nineteenth Byte

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

14:00

yeah

gmail is horrible for performance

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

Question: Did I miss any layers between browser ↔ HTML ↔ HTTP ↔ optional TLS ↔ TCP ↔ IP ↔ ethernet ↔ physical layers?

betseg

NASA celebrates Curiosity's touchdown on Mars - CNET News

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ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

We all remember those famous first words spoken by an astronaut on the surface of Mars: "That's one small step fo- HOLY SHIT LOOK OUT IT'S GOT SOME KIND OF DRILL! Get back to the ... [unintelligible] ... [signal lost]"

betseg

lol

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

There's a measure in Mac OS X's Activity Monitor called "Memory Pressure". Instead of measuring memory used, it measures paging. It is super useful - don't look for things that reduce memory usage, look for things that reduce Memory Pressure.

You should make careful use of memory cleaners - they put RAM onto swap, sometimes it'll increase, sometimes it will decrease the memory pressure

Sherlock9

14:06

Managed to golf my unlucky numbers answer. Going to try to golf it some more soon.

betseg

Is it easier to land on Mars or Venus?

TùxCräftîñg

venus

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

Mars

Once upi erach it

TùxCräftîñg

on venus you can use a parachute

betseg

yup right answer

TùxCräftîñg

14:16

on mars the athmosphere is not dense enough, you must slow down with rockets

betseg

or ballons

like spirit and opportunity did

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

But won't most of your payload get crusged>

zyabin101

I just got a hella cool new version of the Google Keyboard! :D

TùxCräftîñg

wow

logy is violently borked

betseg

zyabin101

14:23

And now, guys, the most ridiculous char I found on that keyboard: ❣

betseg

^^ too well for a crushed payload : D

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

@betseg no I mean on venus

betseg

@RohanJhunjhunwala oh

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

I was trying to say that the atmospheric pressure would be too high

zyabin101

O look, kaomoji (^^)

betseg

14:25

just use diving suit, about the same pressure there

flawr

14:39

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ i've got something for you

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noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

Code 8 - Short Film [2016]

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network super slow right now

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@flawr that's amazing

10/10

New Main Posts

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Q: So sayeth the Shepherd

I'm tired, but I can't seem to fall asleep. Help me count sheep. Given an input N (positive integer), make N sheep jump over an ascii fence, like this: o |-| ──|-|── 0 o|-| ──|-|── 0 o |-| ──|-|── 0 |-|o ──|-|── 0 |-| o ──|-|── 0 o |-| ──|-|── 1 o|-| ──|-|── 1 o...

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

ETHproductions, Mego, and DJMcMayhem all made to the HNQ asker list. looks like more than any other site

Sherlock9

Oh, that reminds me. Should I post this now? meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/10092/47581

I think I'll leave out the graphical-output tag, since I didn't figure out the rules for that, but otherwise, it looks good to go. From my point of view, anyway.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

14:49

graphical output doesn't include ascii art iirc

so unless it's actually outputting images and ascii art, then it should only have 1 of the tags

Sherlock9

Yeah, I thought I would allow both

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

hm

Sherlock9

Since my "Roll the alphabet into a spiral" question ended up with some good image answers.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

I think that ascii-art only would be better, graphical output is a bit broad unless it's a specific image

idk

Sherlock9

Fair enough. I'll go post it then. Thanks :D

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

14:54

@Sherlock9 I'm assuming stewie gave you permission to take it over, correct?

Sherlock9

Yep

Posted

Conor O'Brien

@Downgoat why is that cheating? I use f later, and that copies the input as the function performs destructive functions on it

New Main Posts

15:13

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Q: Build an aesthetically pleasing divisor tree

An aesthetically pleasing divisor tree is a tree of divisors of input n that, for any composite number m, has two children nodes that are the pair of divisors that are closest to the square root of m. The left node should be the smaller divisor of m and the right node should be the larger divisor...

code-golf ascii-art binary-tree

flawr

15:30

10

Damn heavy cat

TùxCräftîñg

o.o

Luis Mendo

15:44

@flawr You seem to like cats. Same here!

DJMcMayhem

I kinda like cats, but am allergic...

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@betseg I made a python script to monitor network. Since your internet seems to be down a lot, I thought I'd share it with you

gist.github.com/CrazyPython/6bce2e2e74dac778c404cebc406b2f67 .

Colored output and everything

flawr

@LuisMendo (^-_-^) miaou

ok that was a bad cat representation

Downgoat

@ConorO'Brien oh, I thought you were cheating by using it as identity :P

zyabin101

@LuisMendo I like Neko (^^)

webneko.net

Neko (software)

Neko is a cross-platform open-source animated cursor-chasing cat screenmate application. Neko (猫, ねこ) is the Japanese word for cat. == About Neko == Neko was originally written for the NEC PC-9801. It was later ported as a desk accessory to the Macintosh in 1989 by Kenji Gotoh, followed by an X version by Masayuki Koba. In the game, a sprite would follow the mouse pointer around. In the System 7 version, the pointer could be modified to various cat toys such as a mouse, fish, or bird. When Neko caught up with the pointer, it would stare at the screen for a few seconds, scratch an itch on its body...

betseg

16:01

@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC im using bmon its super cool too ;_;

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@betseg too much things, mine just answers "is the internet down?"

betseg

lol

Sherlock9

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I was right. Someone in the comments has an interesting graphical output answer using Mathematica

betseg

@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC what version?

i cant execute it

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

wait a sec, lemme add requirements

betseg

16:04

nvm pacman -S python-termcolor

TùxCräftîñg

pip install termcolor also work

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@betseg added step pip3 install requests colorama termcolor

Helka Homba

CMC: Given a positive number to any amount of precision, output a number smaller but still greater than 0. You can assume input has decimal point. e.g. 34.0 -> 33.0, 0.002 -> 0.001 or 0.0002, etc.

TùxCräftîñg

logy: f[X]->X/2;

DJMcMayhem

@HelkaHomba V, 4 bytes: f.á0

String manipulation FTW

Helka Homba

16:12

@DJMcMayhem 34.00 not less than 34.0

DJMcMayhem

:/

BRB

TùxCräftîñg

read only freakin lol

Fatalize

@HelkaHomba 3 bytes: :2/

Only works with floats as input though

DJMcMayhem

Nevermind

Doing this with just strings is harder than I thought

Fatalize

Just append a 0 after the .

well nevermind

DJMcMayhem

16:15

Nope. 34.0 --> 34.00

That was my first solution

mınxomaτ

Does anyone here know how to prevent ssh from printing "logout" when exit-ing a session?

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@betseg I updated it so you can do {./netstatus & bmon}!

(or w/ any other command)

betseg

yaay

Fatalize

@DJMcMayhem remove the ., prepend 0.

Conor O'Brien

@Downgoat identity function is important function

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

16:17

{bmon & ./netstatus}

DJMcMayhem

@Fatalize Oh. That's way simpler than what I was trying. I came up with <C-x>f.á0ó-1/0<cr>A1

Nope

i0.<esc>f.x

Or even better, f.xI0

Downgoat

Question: what should op overloading syntax within cheddar classes be?

TùxCräftîñg

class Q {
    function +(obj) {
        this + obj;
    }
}

or anyway the function syntax is

DJMcMayhem

@Downgoat What does current class/function syntax look like? Give me a sample class

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@betseg oh wait, bmon doesn't work. it's too advanced. htop works though

Downgoat

16:22

@DJMcMayhem named functions are:

func name(args) { body }

classes are:

DJMcMayhem

Use TIO so I can see indention

Downgoat

15 hours ago, by Downgoat

class MyClass4 {
    get * (name) -> 7
}

@DJMcMayhem cheddar classes are not even on GH yet

zyabin101

@Downgoat override +(a, b) { return a.toString() + b.toString(); }

TùxCräftîñg

what is this horror

do like ruby: operators are like normal functions

zyabin101

So basically, give up overloading and just a.add(b)? Thanks.

TùxCräftîñg

16:25

no

irb(main):001:0> class Q
irb(main):002:1> def +(e)
irb(main):003:2> 10 * 2
irb(main):004:2> 10 * e
irb(main):005:2> end
irb(main):006:1> end
=> :+
irb(main):007:0> Q.new + 10
=> 100
irb(main):008:0> Q.new + 32
=> 320

(the 10 * 2 is a keyboard fail)

DJMcMayhem

@Downgoat What? That doesn't make any sense. Is that a getter or a function named get? Why the argument? What's the asterisk for?

Downgoat

Sep 24 at 16:40, by Downgoat

class Animal (private name: string, private age: number) {
    init {
        print "Created an animal named %s" % self.name
    }

    (name: string): self(name: name, age: 0) {
         // initializer body
    }
}

^ another example

DJMcMayhem

Oh cool, so (private name: string, private age: number) is like a C++ initializer list?

Only problem is that it could get pretty long for big classes

Downgoat

@DJMcMayhem yeah, this is the primary/secondary constructor syntax. You can also use syntax like Java's fields

Dennis

In case the affected party sees this: An anonymous downvote on a sandboxed post that has no comments at all that could indicate potential problems is not helpful. The whole point of posting something in the sandbox is getting feedback. If you see a post that is unclear, uninteresting or you dislike for really any reason at all, please say so.

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ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

16:33

THE PANELS

THEY JUST NEVER STOP

TùxCräftîñg

?

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

@TùxCräftîñg I've made a human-assisted bot to scrape the xkcd Lorenz

Read human-assisted

Nathan Merrill

Language feature idea: interface constructors, which delegate construction to an appropriate class

TùxCräftîñg

example?

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

I'm in the US with a broadband connection in a suburban region with a major ISP and I don't even have a stable internet connection!

Downgoat

16:38

@NathanMerrill I.e. The class implementing the interface itself?

zyabin101

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ Scrape this web-debate comic. :P

I made it ;)

Nathan Merrill

Sure. The interface could take parameters and pass it to different classes based on the parameters

DJMcMayhem

Question: Do you like bounties, and/or crazy amounts of rep?

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A: List of bounties with no deadlines

700 Rep for a modulo in Brain-Flak The current record for the shortest modulo is 72 characters: (<({}<>)>)<>{({}[()])<>(({}()[({})])){{}(<({}({}))>)}{}<>}{}<>({}<{}><>) If you can implement modulo in less than 72 characters in Brain-Flak, you will get 700 rep. 500 from WheatWizard, and 200 ...

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Nathan Merrill

It's basically the factory pattern

Downgoat

@DJMcMayhem yes

> Brain-flak

nvm I like my brain intact

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

16:41

@LuisMendo welcome to the liking cats club

@Sherlock9 oh, cool

@DJMcMayhem how to have cat while allergic

Downgoat

If your allergic to cats the solution is to get a dog :3

or better yet a goat :D

DJMcMayhem

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Actually, my allergies aren't that bad anymore. I used to have serious allergies and asthma, but that kinda went away as I grew up. The allergies are still noticeable, but just a minor nuisance.

quartata

And if you're allergic to all three?

DJMcMayhem

The asthma's totally gone, thank god

TùxCräftîñg

get a penguin

Downgoat

16:45

@quartata cry

DJMcMayhem

Get a ham?

Or a DJ

Downgoat

@TùxCräftîñg XD but they will melt due to warm temperature

@DJMcMayhem DJ very expensive

TùxCräftîñg

so the only solution is ham

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@DJMcMayhem :D

now get cat

DJMcMayhem

@Downgoat I'm actually good friends with a DJ, haha. Maybe I can convince him to give you a good deal. :P

quartata

16:47

cats will make your life miserable

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

no

they will make your life much happier

Fatalize

I hate cats

DJMcMayhem

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I don't plan on getting any pet for a long while

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

D:

@Fatalize get out.

quartata

@Fatalize Don't you hate everything though

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

16:48

@DJMcMayhem why not?

@quartata i thought that was the downvote

Fatalize

@quartata I like fries

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TùxCräftîñg

.__________________________.

orlp

do you guys think the tactical assault knife should be banned?

some say it's far too dangerous

5

DJMcMayhem

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Cause I still live with my family

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

oic

quartata

16:49

@Fatalize a good life motto for healthy living

Downgoat

@Fatalize you mean chips :P

quartata

@orlp that's horrifying

orlp

@quartata I know, right? Unprecedented precision and killing power.

3

DJMcMayhem

@orlp XD reminds me of 4chan's guns

orlp

@quartata IMO silencers should also be banned.

quartata

16:51

What's the muzzle velocity

flawr

@orlp you should add a bipod for stability

orlp

@DJMcMayhem yeah I love those

elite black ops

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@DJMcMayhem dang brainflak is hard to code in

Fatalize

@Downgoat Chips are flat, despite what the british think

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DJMcMayhem

:D It's supposed to be

Sherlock9

16:56

@Mego Is there a reason that ╡ (sublists; chunk by number) does nothing?

betseg

@DJMcMayhem halp how it gone i can't run

DJMcMayhem

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Any particular questions you have?

Fatalize

Well now I have 2 starred messages about potatoes. Not sure how I feel about that

8

DJMcMayhem

@Fatalize 3

Fatalize

... should have seen that coming

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

16:57

@DJMcMayhem no

Downgoat

@Fatalize oh, it's only the British who say chips?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

just why is this a thing

Downgoat

brb I forgot how to geography

DJMcMayhem

@betseg ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ idk, it just kinda went away

Fatalize

@Downgoat In French chips are called chips

DJMcMayhem

16:58

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ For the same reason brainf*ck and hexagony are things. Because we can.

Fatalize

at least

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

lol

wizzwizz4

Chips are bits of vegetable that have been cut up and fried. Who cares about the shape?

Crisps are crispy, but they're still chips of potato, just like fries.

Except some that are made of other vegetables, but they're often prefixed with the name "vegetable".

DJMcMayhem

To clear up all confusion. Chips:

zyabin101

@orlp If it's OP, ban it.

DJMcMayhem

17:03

And fries:

betseg

What are vegetables anyways?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@DJMcMayhem -.- thanks a lot for making me want to go get a burger and fries now

Fatalize

I don't like burgers

wizzwizz4

How about we call them "crisps" and "fries", leaving "chips" ambiguous or referring to both?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Fatalize that's fine. I do however.

betseg

17:05

^^

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

nah

it's good as is

Mast

Does any of you know anything about a language called Haystack? We got a question about it earlier on CR, but we can't find the specification.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

this was an active period of stars

wizzwizz4

@DJMcMayhem You call tomato ketchup "fries" in your country? I've heard it called "red sauce", but...

Mast

Definitely looked like a golfing language, so of-course I thought about you guys.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

17:05

@Mast hm, heard of it

DJMcMayhem

...

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Mast not a golfing lang, but iirc it's an esolang

DJMcMayhem

@wizzwizz4 What country are you from?

quartata

@Mast Link?

DJMcMayhem

github.com/kade-robertson/haystack

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

17:06

github.com/kade-robertson/haystack

Mast

@quartata It's burned, but the code was this:

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

ninja'ed

Mast

v

    v       /2<
        >d2%o,^
>i  >d1]?
        >"Done"o|

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Mast thats a 2d esoteric lang

betseg

Is it ><>

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

17:07

no

quartata

Oh yeah that was Shebang's 2D lang

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

yes

wizzwizz4

@DJMcMayhem Go onto GeoGuessr at UTC00:00:00 on a Friday. It's the first country that shows up.

DJMcMayhem

Now I'm even more confused...

Mast

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ A 2D esolang?

Thanks for the find by the way :-)

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

17:08

yes

wizzwizz4

@Mast There are lots of those nowadays. :-)

quartata

@Mast Think of the code as a grid of instructions

And you can change the direction the instruction pointer is moving

Mast

So the distance between instructions becomes relevant.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

yes

and the direction

Mast

A 2D tape.

quartata

17:09

That's what the arrows are for, changing control flow direction

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Mast exactly

Mast

Hah, if you know that, it looks surprisingly easy.

Must be a pain to maintain though...

Change the length of one string and all your code needs to move.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

yeah

quartata

Yep. It's sill a surprisingly intuitive nd fun approach to control flow though.

Look up befunge and ><> for classic examples

Downgoat

@DJMcMayhem fries kinda looks like hay..... shit I'm hungry now ;_;

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

17:15

lol

Mast

@quartata I could even write a question in one of those languages :-)

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

I'm using a neural network to denoise an image right now

I think the implementation is known as "Visual Cortex". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_cortex

Fatalize

"I'm using a neural network to X" is slowly becoming the new "I'm using JQuery to X"

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

yeah

Part of a package named "Humans", forked from "Great apes"

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TùxCräftîñg

lol

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

17:18

@zyabin101 Hey, at least you don't have to wait for your program to make 8 pings per panel to c0.xkcd.com to ensure that it has all the available options

Takes like 0.5s per panel, times way too many panels

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

Uncompressed and unminified without the redundant source code backups it is 808 megabytes.

TùxCräftîñg

why do you posted it 2 times
why do you posted it 2 times

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

network problems

timeout, clicked "retry" twice

betseg

hai

TùxCräftîñg

iah

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

17:23

My OS is more than a gigabyte - and nature can fit humans into < 1 GB. With redundancy (2^4 base pairs result in 20 amino acids which uses up the rest for redundancy en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_codon_table).

And the hardware can store than in a level 2 cache for every processor

DJMcMayhem

Since I already shared one new bounty I'm offering, here is another:

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A: List of bounties with no deadlines

250 rep for the world's shortest vim-quine I had never seen a quine written in vim before, so I went ahead and wrote one. Like I said over there, I have never seen a vim-quine before I posted that answer, so to my knowledge it is the worlds shortest vim-quine. I will give you 250 rep if you can ...

TùxCräftîñg

MPU design idea: Use genetic-code like constructs instead of machine code

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

thousands better than our technology

DNA (base four) form codons which result in amino acids (not one-to-one) which result in proteins

DNA codon table = ASCII, DNA = bits, Amino Acids = Source code, Ribosome = Preprocessor, Protein Folding = compiler, Protein = program

TIL humans are compiled on the fly

protein folding, like compiling, takes a lot of metal computer CPU time

It takes supercomputers to fold a protein, but nature does it in a couple seconds

TùxCräftîñg

but it's less precise than supercomputers

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@TùxCräftîñg that happens rarely

Mast

17:31

Has decent parity though.

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

Viruses are SQL Injection, and cells have a very strong IDS

quartata

                       ----------
                      /          \
                     /    REST    \
                    /      IN      \
                   /     PEACE      \
                  /                  \
                  |      wizard      |
                  |      90 Au       |
                  |  killed by the   |
                  |     doorknob     |
                  |                  |
                  |                  |
                  |       2016       |
                 *|     *  *  *      | *

@Doorknob

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

and it is decentralized/distributed

Doorknob

@quartata Nice :D

quartata

That was actually by accident :P

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

17:32

and the IDS adapts

quartata

I was testing something and I forgot I placed you in the Fake Wizard's Tower on the portal

I've almost got vitamin supplements working which was surprisingly difficult

I hope you're eager to be the doom of many adventurers with fire resistance but not cold resistance

Doorknob

I am indeed

quartata

Trying to decide when I've added enough stuff to do a public beta....

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

I denoised my image with adobe photoshop and then used the neural network builtin to Humans

from human.brain import visual_cortex

zyabin101

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ What does the internl API c0.xkcd.com do? :/

DLosc

17:45

RequestForComments: language naming

What do you think of the name "Charcoal"? What associations does it have for you? What kind of language would you expect it to be, just from seeing the name?

TùxCräftîñg

a character-manipulation language?

quartata

Makes me think of Charcoal HQ

waffles

DLosc

@quartata Syrup 0_0

quartata

All right, all right.

Sherlock9

@StewieGriffin Almost forgot to mention. Posted codegolf.stackexchange.com/q/95100/47581

quartata

17:47

I think Charcoal is fine

DLosc

Okay, what about "Sketchpad"? Associations/expectations?

quartata

Sketchpad makes me think more of a graphical-output language of some form

Maybe some pun on "ncurses"

TùxCräftîñg

mcurses

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@zyabin101 There's c0 through c8, they provide panel data/CSRF tokens.

Go figure it out with Wireshark yourself :/

quartata

@DJMcMayhem need some fries now

DLosc

17:54

Last sample: how about "Infinite Sketchpad"? Associations/expectations?

quartata

I so rarely eat them that when I do it's like heaven

@DLosc Forever unfolding napkin

That's funny because I had a comic written up about that

DLosc

@quartata Ah! Really? ^_^

TùxCräftîñg

CMC: Create a language called NO using period.case

betseg

NO

TùxCräftîñg

;-;

quartata

18:00

@TùxCräftîñg This would have been funny but the "Ditto" made my brain tingle

Sorry @ConorO'Brien

For PascalCase you could have done Pascal, C#

And screaming snake case could have been another joke

Also you missed a golden opportunity for an OCaml joke

Also I would have rearranged the hyphen case to be third

zyabin101

~~CMC~~: check out cergos.cfw.me/rss ;)

ArtOfCode

Alright, who linked CHQ? Suspiciously high numbers of TNB people in there :)

zyabin101

hides in barrel, asap, as fast as possible

TùxCräftîñg

17 mins ago, by quartata

Makes me think of Charcoal HQ

zyabin101

everyone, hide

Martin Ender

18:03

@Lynn well, updated. It' not going to win over someone who does what you suggest by combining 15 Python versions with some cheap polyglots, but I think it's quite interesting. :)

Steven H.

holy necromancy batman codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/2378/55696

TùxCräftîñg

> Regex modulo

NO

Optimizer

@Lynn Thanks!

Martin Ender

18:22

@DJMcMayhem shouldn't the empty Brain-Flak program just print its arguments?

DJMcMayhem

Yes, that is correct

Is it not doing that?

Martin Ender

oh does TIO read from STDIN instead of arguments?

DJMcMayhem

Yup. Decimal, split on any type of whitespace

Martin Ender

okay, thanks

DJMcMayhem

Technically it's from a file, not STDIN, but close enough

@MartinEnder are you working on modulo?

Martin Ender

18:24

I thought I'd give it a try

I've never done anything in Brain-Flak but I've been meaning to learn it

you should totally give it a command-line switch to read/write characters instead of integers. that would make it a lot more powerful (without actually affecting its Turing-tarpitness)

DJMcMayhem

I'm really happy with how it turned out. Some things are a lot shorter than BF because of the nature of the nesting, but them some things are a lot harder cause of the stackyness

@MartinEnder There already is. -a -A and -c all do that

Martin Ender

oh okay

DJMcMayhem

I forgot which one is which, give me a second

Martin Ender

that should probably go in your readme then ;)

DJMcMayhem

Yeah, it should

OK, so -a is ASCII input, -A is ASCII output, and -c is both.

Martin Ender

18:30

since you have a stack depth command, the language specification should probably also mention somewhere that pushing zeros onto an empty stack creates explicit zeros which are counted (for all other commands it doesn't matter whether the zeros are swallowed by the implicit infinite stack or not).

DJMcMayhem

It's really convenient to have them split like that

Martin Ender

yeah, Stack Cats has the same (but defaults to characters)

-i for numeric input, -o for numeric output, -n for both

TùxCräftîñg

:D codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/12844/… is reopened

DJMcMayhem

@MartinEnder Ah, that's a good point. I'll update that.

Pushing a zero is harder than it should be. It seems like there should be a 4 byte way, but the shortest has to be 6. Unless the stack is empty I suppose

Martin Ender

well if you don't care about which stack you're on, you can do four

DJMcMayhem

18:38

I can't imagine very many scenarios where you don't care which stack you end on, haha

Martin Ender

yeah I guess in most cases, both would be empty, so you can just use []

Lynn

@Optimizer Thanks what for? (You're welcome!)

Martin Ender

18:56

I assume your edit of his challenge

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