The Nineteenth Byte

Sieg

10:00 PM

Vim.

Doorknob

@Sieg :D

high fives

FUZxxl

I use ed(1), the standard Unix text editor.

Is the spec of my challenge clear?

Sieg

@Doorknob i.imgur.com/jWlUUdO.png

orlp

@ChrisJester-Young I've figured it out

Sieg

Fun times.

Doorknob

10:01 PM

@Sieg -1 vim > gvim. :P

Sieg

Nah, I like my ease of use.

orlp

@ChrisJester-Young You want to call MathJax.Hub.Queue(["Typeset", MathJax.Hub, dom_element]); for every dom_element you want to style. So you just do a jQuery search for every p, header, etc, and then call that on that DOM element.

Sieg

Honestly it comes down to Mint's terminal sucking.

orlp

@MartinBüttner why is MathJax getting disabled despite the re-evaluation coming up positive for keeping it?

Martin Büttner

@orlp mostly because the votes changed after the decision was made

when we made the decision it was 8/7/6 the other way round

Chris Jester-Young

10:03 PM

@orlp Thanks for that info. I'll see how much work that will be to implement.

orlp

@MartinBüttner it's doubly disingenuous to fracture the "keep mathjax" crowd into two camps

Chris Jester-Young

@orlp It's not like you can't upvote more than one option.

orlp

@ChrisJester-Young it still affects voters, not everyone might realize that

Calvin's Hobbies

@FUZxxl Maybe it's just me, but it's really hard for me to tell how the grid is all connected since the walls don't line up perfectly.

e.g.

Martin Büttner

okay, Joe Z's questions are reverted

orlp

10:06 PM

@Calvin'sHobbies ^

not kidding, that's how my browser renders it

Martin Büttner

@JoeZ. I reverted the LaTeX from your questions again, as MathJax is going to be deactivated again for now. Sorry for getting your hopes up. :/

FUZxxl

You guys need to get yourself better browsers.

orlp

I'd suggest to keep MathJax until at least Chris looked at the feasibility of my solution

Calvin's Hobbies

@orlp Yikes

FUZxxl

Try to copy-paste into a text-editor of choice otherwise.

@Calvin'sHobbies Your browser is broken.

Doorknob

10:08 PM

Looks fine on Firefox on Ubuntu.

Calvin's Hobbies

I'm using the latest version of Chrome. Which lots of people use.

Martin Büttner

@Calvin'sHobbies I think the main thing with MathJax that's left now is your challenge. I'm not really sure what to do with all the answers which render the outputs...

Alex A.

@MartinBüttner: I removed the rendered part of my answer

Martin Büttner

@Calvin'sHobbies Just gonna leave this here...

FUZxxl

@Calvin'sHobbies Maybe your fonts are broken?

Calvin's Hobbies

10:09 PM

@MartinBüttner I know I know, But Chrome is popular, no doubt

Alex A.

More people use Internet Explorer than Safari?!?!?!

Chris Jester-Young

@AlexA. Lol.

Almost nobody uses Safari on Windows, and not many people have Macs.

Alex A.

@ChrisJester-Young: I used to use Safari for Windows back when I had a PC.

BrainSteel

And when they do have macs, few of them still stick to Safari.

Chris Jester-Young

(I guess you could count iOS devices too, which more people have.)

Calvin's Hobbies

10:11 PM

@MartinBüttner Rendering the MathJax is not really necessary for the problem, so I guess It could all just be removed? (As Alex did.)

Chris Jester-Young

@BrainSteel Exactly! I'm currently using Firefox on OS X (I also have Chrome installed).

Alex A.

@ChrisJester-Young I had to stop using Safari on Windows when it stopped recognizing scrolling up.

Martin Büttner

@Calvin'sHobbies or indented to show the generated source

BrainSteel

@ChrisJester-Young Accessing the site through Chrome on OS X. Mac developers unite?

Chris Jester-Young

@AlexA. I think, just like Internet Explorer for Mac, Safari for Windows is going to be abandoned one day, if it isn't already.

orlp

10:11 PM

@ChrisJester-Young safari for windows is long abandoned

Calvin's Hobbies

@MartinBüttner Sure, if they don't show that already

FUZxxl

@MartinBüttner Thank you for the edit but I'm not sure if <sup> is semantically correct for the purpose you use it for.

Alex A.

@ChrisJester-Young: Is there actually IE for Mac? Why in the world would that exist?

Calvin's Hobbies

@Doorknob Do we know when exactly MathJax will be disabled?

FUZxxl

@AlexA. There used to be.

Chris Jester-Young

10:12 PM

Internet Explorer for Mac

Internet Explorer for Mac (also referred to as Internet Explorer for Macintosh, Internet Explorer Macintosh Edition, Internet Explorer:mac or IE:mac) was a proprietary web browser developed by Microsoft for the Macintosh platform. Initial versions were developed from the same code base as Internet Explorer for Windows. Later versions diverged, particularly with the release of version 5 which included the cutting edge, fault-tolerant and highly standards-compliant Tasman layout engine. As a result of the five-year agreement between Apple and Microsoft in 1997, it was the default browser on Mac OS...

Martin Büttner

@FUZxxl Feel free to format it however you like :P

Chris Jester-Young

@Calvin'sHobbies It will happen when Martin gives me the word to.

FUZxxl

@MartinBüttner It's okay.

Alex A.

@ChrisJester-Young My PC barely works anymore. I haven't used Safari for Windows since 2007 or so.

Doorknob

^^^ Martin's making a list of questions to re-MathJax-ify when we turn it back on again (hopefully), so... "soon"

Chris Jester-Young

10:14 PM

/me wonders whether to teach @FUZxxl about our "reply to message" chat feature. :-P

Alex A.

Haha

Chris Jester-Young

(It does make me very sad that our mobile chat site doesn't support that. One day, one day....)

FUZxxl

@ChrisJester-Young Ah, I see.

Chris Jester-Young

:-D

FUZxxl

@ChrisJester-Young What is the recommended course of action when I want to post a question whose title contains “problem” to Stack Overflow?

Calvin's Hobbies

10:16 PM

@MartinBüttner Oh, you're already changing all of them :P

FUZxxl

e.g. because it's about an optimization problem.

Chris Jester-Young

@FUZxxl Change the title wording.

Martin Büttner

@Doorknob I actually went with "just get rid of it"

Chris Jester-Young

Seriously, most questions that contain the word "problem" in the title are not good fits for SO.

FUZxxl

@ChrisJester-Young A question about an optimization problem without “optimization problem” in the title is going to have a very weird title.

@ChrisJester-Young true.

Chris Jester-Young

10:17 PM

Are you sure "optimization problem" questions are a good fit for SO?

FUZxxl

@ChrisJester-Young this was mine: stackoverflow.com/questions/27271353/…

judge for yourself.

Alex A.

@FUZxxl: "Algorithm to approximate an optimal solution for integer allocation"

Chris Jester-Young

@FUZxxl That seems to be a better question for CS.SE.

Alex A.

You can just omit "problem" or "pro_blem" entirely

FUZxxl

@ChrisJester-Young CS.SE is for “research level” questions. They made clear to me in the past that question below research level are unwanted.

Chris Jester-Young

10:20 PM

@FUZxxl CS != CSTheory.

FUZxxl

@AlexA. Well, yes, but the correct mathematical term for this kind of thingy is “problem.”

@ChrisJester-Young Ah yes. I think I asked on CS.SE, too, once or twice, but I never received satisfying answers.

Alex A.

@FUZxxl: Yeah, but it just looks weird to have "pro_blem." People will know what you mean

FUZxxl

@AlexA. I see enough questions were people omit words because they think it's clear what they mean (hint: it never is)

to not do this myself.

Chris Jester-Young

@FUZxxl And you think you'd get better answers on SO?!

Alex A.

Maybe Math.SE?

FUZxxl

10:22 PM

@ChrisJester-Young Yes. I usually get better answers on Stack Overflow.

not in this particular case though

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Q: How to distribute program sections into the least amount of segments?

The following problem occurred to me while thinking about how to implement a linker for 80286 programs: Given an integer n and a set of sections where each section has a size no larger than n, find a partitioning of S with the least number of partitions such that in each partition the sum of ...

Chris Jester-Young

@FUZxxl I'm half-tempted to ask the mods at CS.SE if they want your question on their site.

FUZxxl

this is an example where I got a good answer.

Optimizer

MASS MATHJAX ROLLBACK IN PROGRESS

FUZxxl

@ChrisJester-Young If you like, sure, why not?

Alex A.

RIP MATHJAX 2015

Martin Büttner

10:24 PM

@Optimizer I think it's already over

Chris Jester-Young

@FUZxxl Eh, I'm Code Jamming, can't be bothered.

Optimizer

holy shit, our 14K star chat message has disappeared from the sidebar

FUZxxl

@ChrisJester-Young ok ok

Calvin's Hobbies

@Optimizer It was 16k by now and there just a second ago...

Optimizer

someone bring it back !

Doorknob

10:25 PM

I got my quaternion_sum() function working. :P

Chris Jester-Young

@Calvin'sHobbies Pics or it didn't happen.

Alex A.

@Optimizer: Are you in the US?

@Doorknob Congrats!

@AlexA. no

France?

10:27 PM

argh...

I keep closing the chat window.

Alex A.

I'm wondering because I don't often see spaces between punctuation and words.

I mostly saw it when I studied French

Calvin's Hobbies

Has anyone attempted codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/48739/… yet?

FUZxxl

@ChrisJester-Young While you're at it: Could you fix the bug where the chat window is grabbing all the input? It breaks certain hotkeys in my browser

Chris Jester-Young

@FUZxxl All you can do is file a bug on meta.

FUZxxl

I want to be able to press 1 and 2 to switch between windows but this breaks on the chat window because it draws focus to the input box.

@ChrisJester-Young ok

BrainSteel

10:28 PM

@Calvin'sHobbies I'm thinking about it, and I really want to get one to work.

Martin Büttner

@Calvin'sHobbies I feel like the only feasible way to solve it is similarly to how your digit characters were solved in ><>

Calvin's Hobbies

@BrainSteel Good luck (I don't envy you :P)

Optimizer

@AlexA. no

BrainSteel

I'm pretty sure it's not possible in C without wizardry.

Calvin's Hobbies

Yeah, a 2D language seems very necessary

BrainSteel

10:30 PM

I have a hunch that it's possible in BF, so that's where my thoughts are headed. I'll keep you posted on how long it takes me to give up :P

Calvin's Hobbies

Heh, alright

BrainSteel

Come to think of it, I don't think it's possible to have different outputs for S and Z in a language without significant whitespace.

TheNumberOne

11:24 PM

Yay, I got B-small

@ChrisJester-Young How far are you?

Chris Jester-Young

@TheNumberOne I've done A. Working on C now. I don't want to touch D. Haven't looked at B yet.

TheNumberOne

I just spent the day moving 300 miles away from my previous home :) Haven't been able to work on it very much.

Alex A.

@TheNumberOne: Wow! Where are you moving?

TheNumberOne

US

Alex A.

I thought you were already in the US

TheNumberOne

11:33 PM

I was / am.

Alex A.

Going to Idaho?

TheNumberOne

:|

Alex A.

What, I thought you wanted to go to Idaho.

Alex A.

11:53 PM

Am I the only one here not doing Google Code Jam?

orlp

no

Alex A.

@orlp: Did you look at it at all?

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