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Q: Why is my question 'How would the main clause be corrected' is On-hold?

My question was kept on hold due to off-topic as it was a proof reading question. Being my first question, I did not know as to what kind of questions to be posted. After going through the rule of off-topic, I have edited my post to a specific topic but still the question is kept on hold.

Damkerng T.

07:15

> If I could have been a learned + super active user like you, I would have been all time busy teaching people here with no bitter note anywhere in my brain! Because knowledge is nothing if it does not carry respect with it.
http://meta.ell.stackexchange.com/a/2791/3281

@MaulikV Care to expand on that a little?

Anonymous

07:45

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Q: Night rain vs Night train, gemination?

The Wikipedia article on gemination claims that gemination of /t/ is the distinguishing factor between the pronunciation of the two phrases night train and night rain. In my whole life, I've almost never heard the final /t/ in night and the initial /t/ in train articulated the same way. The init...

pronunciation phonetics enunciation

Anonymous

Can we reopen this question?

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

@snailboat Yeah.

Anonymous

I actually flagged it for migration.

Anonymous

I voted to reopen first, though :-)

Damkerng T.

Aww... to Linguistics.SE, perhaps?

Anonymous

07:54

Yeah, 'cause we've got to discussion what gemination is to answer it.

Anonymous

Well, I'd be happy if it stayed on ELL and got reopened.

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

I don't quite understand the question that you're asking here - could you rephrase it a little? Or add a sentence with a different wording of the same question? — Alex K 2 hours ago

Of course you don't.

I didn't either.

Though I think I did.

There is some gemination AFAIK.

Anonymous

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. I don't understand why you added some. I think gemination is either there or it's not.

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

@snailboat I wanted the sentence to flow better.

Anonymous

I just think it made more sense without some.

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

07:57

. . . And I wanted to add some tags, realizing we lack tags for technical pronunciation stuff.

Anonymous

Hey, it's going to get reopened :-)

Anonymous

I added phonology.

Damkerng T.

@snailboat I think it will!

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

Mhm.

Oh, Nathan has applied his hats creatively.

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Q: 'Bye' Vs 'Good Bye'

I have read/heard at many places where 'Good Bye' is not good. It is a final remark on that very harsh moment. Scene #1: Mike and Sarah are in good relationship. "Hey honey, see you tomorrow. Bye!" Scene #2: Mike and Sarah are now about to break up. "I don't want to see you anymore...

word-usage word-choice greetings

Next HNQ coming up.

Damkerng T.

I guess so.

Anonymous

08:00

I wonder how often people write good bye with a space these days.

Anonymous

books.google.com/ngrams/…

Anonymous

Not so much.

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

Do we have . . . Bad buy? :)

Anonymous

Only jocularly.

Anonymous

I might've said bad bye once as a grade schooler trying to be clever. I'm not sure :-)

Damkerng T.

08:02

Oh, right! We also have "Bye, bye", which is kinda cute. :D

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. バイバーイ！

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

And "ta".

Yeah, and those tree branches.

Anonymous

Hooray for reduplication!

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

I find magnets particularly astonishing.

i.e. cool

Anonymous

The good in goodbye is actually God originally.

Anonymous

08:05

God be with ye.

Anonymous

It's not a type of bye that is good.

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

Yeah I know.

Anonymous

Rather, bye is shortened from goodbye.

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

The Persian version literally translates into "GodLookafter".

Anonymous

So someone could explain in an answer that goodbye isn't really supposed to be 'good'.

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

08:07

Who? Me? Scared

Damkerng T.

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. That deserves an LO message!

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

@DamkerngT. Well, you got it covered!

Damkerng T.

;-)

Anonymous

Sometimes messages here overflow and end up in Language Overflow :-)

Parth Kohli

I had no idea about this being the main chat.

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

08:17

Thanks @Parth for understanding.

@ParthKohli Blame this guy.

Parth Kohli

I apologise.

Duly noted.

Damkerng T.

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. Hah!

@ParthKohli It's all right. No need to feel bad at all.

Anonymous

Suddenly NES seems to have a lot of accounts.

Anonymous

NES - NES2 - NES.

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

OH NO!

We're under attack by Loch NES monsters!

Parth Kohli

08:22

Who's that and what's up with the suspension?

I've never really understood "cooling down"

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

@ParthKohli We just put them in the freezer.

Damkerng T.

08:36

Ah, the Night Train is gone! but to a different place!

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

Where?

Anonymous

Sweet, now I can upvote again ;-)

Damkerng T.

ELU :-)

Anonymous

I think ELU is a fine place for the question.

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

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Q: help you learn vs. help you to learn

Source: JavaScript: The Good Parts by Douglas Crockford (2008) Example: My goal here is to help you to learn to think in JavaScript. I will show you the components of the language and start you on the process of discovering the ways those components can be put together. Although it is usua...

infinitive

This. Must be a duplicate.

Damkerng T.

08:45

Oh, to what question?

Anonymous

Probably. Help is an exceptional verb that takes both to and bare infinitival complements.

Anonymous

However, the long term trend is toward bare infinitival complementation.

Anonymous

I believe both StoneyB and I have written answers about this, but I'm too lazy to look.

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

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Q: Help to do something or help do something?

I wrote: I will help you to acquire Russian. A native English speaker corrected me saying that 'to' is unnecessary here. Is it correct to say "I will help you acquire Russian" Thank you!

grammar verb syntax

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Q: "helps making", "helps make", "helps to make" - what is the difference?

In the three sentences below: Good horizontal spacing helps make individual statements more readable. Good horizontal spacing helps to make individual statements more readable. Good horizontal spacing helps making individual statements more readable. Is one of them preferable to t...

infinitive gerund sentence-choice to-infinitive

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Q: How to determine whether "to" is needed or not?

"I can help improve your skills." "I can help to improve your skills." Which of this sentences is correct? How do you decide to put "to" or omit?

grammar word-usage bare-infinitive

Damkerng T.

<3

Anonymous

08:47

Hey, thanks for giving me so many opportunities to vote :-)

Anonymous

Yeah, I'm pretty sure all three of those are duplicates too.

Anonymous

I like Man_From_India's answer, though.

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

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Q: Can I use "It helps having a good imagination" instead of "It helps to have..."?

In this sentence, can I also say "It helps having a good imagination"? It helps to have a good imagination, and I am completely delusional. —— Hoult (A movie director) Which usage would be better?

sentence-construction

Anonymous

Let's use 47221 as the master and dupe everything else.

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

This too, though it's a bit more complicated.

Anonymous

08:49

Related: ell.stackexchange.com/q/19060/230

Anonymous

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Q: "This will help us ensure" or "This will help us TO ensure": use of TO with infinitival clauses

Could you please tell me which sentence correctly uses "to"? I am always a little confused when using "to" in a sentence. Here, if it is a verb then "to" is required. This will help us to ensure that or This will help us ensure that

catenative-verbs

Damkerng T.

Wow, lots of them!

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

Great.

Anonymous

That one's already closed as a dupe of 47221.

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

Just great.

Anonymous

08:51

Let's close all the others as dupes of 47221 too.

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

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Q: help you do smth. vs. help you to do smth. - difference

I know that generally native speakers say it usually like this (without the to): These exercises will help you get better at math. Can you help me move these boxes outside? But sometimes, though very rarely, I see it used with the to. Like in this example: This is just so that you won...

grammar

But, but this is from Cookie monster!

Why did he reask?

Unless,

Damkerng T.

Okay, I'd better wait for them in the review queue. Should be easier for me on my iPad.

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

he didn't really learn.

Damkerng T.

Sometimes we forget what we've learned.

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

Cookie guy you had a question on this earlier! ell.stackexchange.com/questions/27560/… Why did you ask this one? — Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. 18 secs ago

Damkerng T.

09:03

Is the Close review queue working? I still don't see anything to review.

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

@DamkerngT. shouldiblamecaching.com

Damkerng T.

Probably

Damkerng T.

09:30

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Q: Is the tense in the main clause correct, when both the actions in the clauses are taking place at the same time?

Seeing the little girl's performance, the audience were enthralled. When both actions in participle clause and main clause are taking place at the same time. Is the tense in the main clause correct in this sentence?

tense clauses

Need only one more vote.

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

@DamkerngT. Does it?

Damkerng T.

Thanks!

Pandya

09:59

Help needed with the usage of "/"

I am using "/" in this post

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

@Pandya ?

Pandya

In site-name

And confused presently in this discussion

@DamkerngT. Wha do you think about the usage of "/" in such case?

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

What is the site's name?

Pandya

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. currently Open Source

Damkerng T.

@Pandya I would understand that you mean Free = Libre.

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

10:03

Why is there a need to include both "Libre" and "Free"?

Pandya

@DamkerngT. Yes, Exactly

Damkerng T.

I think that goes back to the early days of the Free Software.

Several people think of "free" as in "free beer".

Pandya

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. In order to avoid ambiguity of word "Free" can be as in freedom or as in price

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

Oh yeah, I remember a post on it.

Damkerng T.

To emphasize that it's "free" as in "freedom", they also used "libre".

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

10:04

What about using parenthesis @Pan?

Pandya

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. I will think about it.

Currently I want to know what "Free" will indicate if we use this ("Free, Libre & Open Source) as separated by comma?

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

I would rather the parenthesis.

The comma could indicate that those adjectives are unrelated.

Damkerng T.

> he used the term “FLOSS,” meaning “Free/Libre and Open Source Software,”

> gnu.org/philosophy/floss-and-foss.en.html

I think it looks okay because someone else has used it before, as well. :D

Pandya

The slash is also used to avoid taking a position in a naming controversy, allowing the juxtaposition of both names without stating a preference. An example is the designation "Assyrian/Chaldean/Syriac" in the official U.S. census, reflecting the Syriac naming dispute. - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slash_%28punctuation%29#In_English_text

This type usage in this case right?

Damkerng T.

I think so.

I think we could write Free (or Libre) and Open Source Software or Free (aka Libre) and Open Source Software, but Free/Libre and Open Source Software has one advantage: it's more concise.

Pandya

10:16

@DamkerngT. OK. Thanks

Damkerng T.

My pleasure!

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

My pressure!

Damkerng T.

LOL

Pandya

good-bye!

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

Godbye

Damkerng T.

10:20

Bye! o/

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

I'm starting to earn "a new hope", which is a really kewl hat.

Did you earn it @Dam?

Damkerng T.

Oh, not yet. I haven't even started it.

But I've already been plotting it... mwahahaha... :P

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

@DamkerngT. All you need to do is vote.

Damkerng T.

Eh? Wait, it's another hat, maybe?

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

I'm talking about "A new hope".

Damkerng T.

10:26

Oh, right! But it's tomorrow!

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

Well, they start out early since it's tomorrow somewhere on Earth.

Damkerng T.

Hah! Is your tomorrow before my tomorrow?!

How could that be?

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

It's not.

Lemme find a link.

Oh, @Dam check what dupe they close this question as of:

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Q: Hat earned before date in Winterbash

It's not yet 18th December 2015 but I have earned the A New Hope hat on Stack Overflow which says: Proof: Possible Bug?

bug winterbash

Damkerng T.

I smelled a hat!

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

@DamkerngT. I imagine it'd look nice on your face.

Damkerng T.

10:30

LOL -- It looks like something from Star War.

Wait, maybe that's it!

It's about Star War!

I hadn't thought of it! I was slow on this one.

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

@DamkerngT. It is.

Damkerng T.

But the new Star Lord is female in A New Hope.

Maybe I could wear it and pretend that I'm her sidekick. :P

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

PRETEND? ಠ_ಠ

Damkerng T.

Argh! I was caught!

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

@Dam

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Q: Why are date-based hats awarded too early?

I just got the And I Feel Fine hat which states "post or vote on December 21". Does SE have a time machine now?

bug status-bydesign winterbash

Damkerng T.

10:36

The concept of Time Machine is fascinating. I wish SE really had one. :D

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

10:51

I just changed the hat.

Looks less annoying and cooler.

Damkerng T.

Hah!

Oh, wait. I just got it too!

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

I got it in three sites.

Damkerng T.

"Hello, Luke, I'm your dad."

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

"Hey dad. What are you doing at Stack Exchange?"

Damkerng T.

"We're searching for secret hats. (breathing heavily)"

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

10:58

"There's a cool secret hat I want to get but I dunno how. It's called flying tiger dad."

Damkerng T.

"I want it, too. (breathing even more heavily)"

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A: 'Bye' Vs 'Good Bye'

Goodbye can be used as a final farewell when someone is ending a relationship or walking out on someone. It is a more formal word than bye and thus makes sense in this context. Also, when slamming the door and walking out on someone, a robust two-syllable goodbye adds strength to the nonverbal cu...

What happened to the user who posted it!?

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

@DamkerngT. I think the mods beat the Loch NES invasion.

Anonymous

If you saw the account name before it disappeared, you would probably be able to guess.

Anonymous

Oh. What @Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. said.

Damkerng T.

Ahh

Anonymous

11:05

They left the other account alone, though.

Damkerng T.

I wonder if the reader who reads this chat log after the Winterbash and all the hats were gone will understand the "Luke" dialogue above. :-)

@snailboat So, there is only one left?

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

@DamkerngT. I wonder if the reader who reads this chat log ever understands what's going on.

Damkerng T.

LOL

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. 2/3 remain.

Damkerng T.

nods

The Sun Wukong hat is nice, too.

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Q: Please look over the revision history when editing a question

So I just did a "reject and edit" for this question http://ell.stackexchange.com/posts/76087/revisions because the suggested edit was correcting an edit that probably should have been rolled back and the revision history was starting to look like a game of Telephone. An edit in the revision hist...

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