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6:10 PM
Please elaborate!
 
Ah, okay!
By the way, welcome to the room!
 
At your leisure. I hope to fall asleep fairly soon.
 
lol
 
It's a very roomy room.
 
@JimReynolds Is there a timer?
 
6:11 PM
I used the phrase "It breaks the ice!" to mean that most learners need to break their old beliefs first.
This is one of the beliefs: I can't hear other languages
 
Oh, not a language they know.
 
I think younger learners wouldn't have this kind of problem, but starting to use spoken English at 19, I know it's tough.
@JimReynolds Yes!
 
But having started to use . . .
 
However, most people can imitate sounds in other languages pretty well, when they don't think of the sounds as language.
 
Agree!
 
6:13 PM
This is why I recommended listening to "non-English" songs.
 
Language is music.
 
Because, by the time a learner asked such a question, they already knew a variant of English, i.e. the English pronounced by their teachers, which probably wouldn't be native speakers.
Yes!
 
More a continuous stream of sounds than discrete words. Very different than reading.
 
Indeed!
 
Yes!
 
6:16 PM
And if one is told to listen to or imitate a song in an unfamiliar language, they will have no choice but to use a part of their brain they hadn't used for such a long, long time once again!
 
And a good amount of English most ELLs or users hear probably comes from others who speak it as an additional language.
 
So the phrase "breaks the ice".
Yes!
 
But the phrase is loaded with another meaning.
 
(I knew that it's different from the idiom "breaks the ice".)
 
6:18 PM
I have many of my own metaphors. :-)
Stuff like, "break the ice", "big hearing", and such. :-)
 
Breaks Dam's faceplate for displaying creativity.
 
Oh, no!
 
Faceplate? I mean the glass of your helmet.
 
Another metaphor, "knock the wall".
(which is from badminton)
 
I wouldn't break your face.
 
6:20 PM
It's too cute to break, right? :-)
 
Your own personal metaphor?
 
Yes
 
Right.
 
But I guess someone who plays badminton long enough would be able to guess it.
 
Signs order to have Dam melted down and made into badminton racket frames.
 
6:21 PM
It's something I stole from a more experienced player in my first or second year of playing, iirc.
 
@DamkerngT. Oh I can't resist its cuteness....
 
@JimReynolds (-_-)
 
iirc ?
 
@JimReynolds Huh?
 
I can't remember those events in the precise details!
 
6:22 PM
Oh. Figured it out.
I've not much of a chat history before I ran into you guyses and improved your lives.
I saw Dam use iirc once before. Didn't get it.
O.O
 
@JimReynolds I see. We're lucky to have found you.
 
Heh. ROFLMAO MAO MAO LOL - I don't get this craze for contractions.
 
I can't imagine knocking the wall in badminton.
 
Um... It's about repeating.
 
I mean what it means.
 
6:25 PM
Have you ever played badminton? Or seen someone playing it?
 
You dgtcfc, MAR?
 
@DamkerngT. I saw some people playing.
 
Yes. Played a little.
 
How many strokes do you think someone will have in a game?
 
@DamkerngT. Paint strokes?
 
6:27 PM
Hmm. . . Haven't played enough to guess.
 
How about swing?
 
Strokes is ok.
 
When you hit the shuttle with your racket once, that's one stroke.
 
Or miss?
 
NO SWEARING.
 
6:28 PM
Yes, or missing the shuttle! (which is not a good feeling!)
 
@DamkerngT. Then, 13 to 20.
 
Let's say that approximately a game is about 15-45 minutes, so maybe 25 minutes on average. Let's round that to 20.
 
@DamkerngT. Jimbie missed spaceships already.
 
ok. What the boy said.
We were right!
 
6:29 PM
@JimReynolds I prefer the phrase young man.
 
Oh. Minutes.
 
There are probably 5-10 strokes/minute, let's say.
That's about 100-200 strokes a game.
 
Ah, you said a game.
I thought you said before someone else scores.
 
Here is a question: How many strokes will one need before being really, really good at badminton?
A thousand?
Ten thousands?
 
Knocks a wall onto the young man's head.
 
6:31 PM
A hundred thousands?
 
@JimReynolds Oh my wall!
 
I don't know. I'm not sure if anyone really knows.
 
Maybe at least. No s's on your thousands.
 
@DamkerngT. Teramegagigamillions.
 
But I think it's reasonable to say that the more strokes you have hit, the better you are, compared to yourself.
 
6:32 PM
Or . . . Tens of thousands?
 
I think maybe almost millions.
 
Hundreds of thousands?
Ok.
 
nods
 
Quadrillions.
 
Listening
Shut up, boy!
 
6:33 PM
So, if you want to get better at it as quick as possible, what's a reasonable thing to do?
 
Hit it against the wall.
 
@JimReynolds I PREFER THE PHRASE YOUNG MAN!
 
Exactly!
 
@DamkerngT. To brag.
 
By hitting the shuttle to the wall, you can have 60-120 strokes a minute.
See the difference?
 
6:34 PM
Uses the young man as a canonball racket.
 
Wheeee!
 
Yes.
 
Because I used to play badminton, I know how powerful the repetition can be.
 
You can say that again.
 
I guess it's the same for other people who are good at their own things.
 
6:35 PM
@DamkerngT. As powerful as the repetition?
 
Well, it could be thought of as the definition of learning.
 
nods
 
nod again
 
@MARamezani bonk! (patting @MARamezani affectionately)
Maybe if you've seen Forrest Gump before, you may be able to recall how Gump practiced table tennis. It's pretty much the same trick.
 
Do you use spoken English to communicate much these days?
 
6:38 PM
Not at all.
 
Not even to your cat?
 
Well, I tried! It didn't work!
 
Curses cats and their uncooperative natures.
Break the wall? Knock the ice?
 
You might like to put them together into one!
 
6:41 PM
@JimReynolds I may consider that!
At around 1:05, Gump did basically what I call "knocking the wall".
 
Yes.
 
Hehe! Guys, apparently someone in Chemistry thinks I'm a chemist who works for organizations that deny global warming, because I asked him to improve the formatting of his answer.
 
The is a new sport. Jumping around urban landscapes.
 
Am being thrown comments of in-your-obnoxious-face science facts about global warming.
 
I saw a guy practicing this in the park near our home yesterday.
 
6:45 PM
Why does formatting an answer mean that you're working for such organizations!?!
@JimReynolds Oh, you mean free running, I think!
 
Yes!
 
Either free running or parkour, which are different things in some regard c:
 
So cool to watch him. I hope he doesn't break too many bones, though. Or, that it's worth it if he does.
 
@Iplodman For folks who know the two well, I think they're different!
@JimReynolds I guess he thinks it's worth it!
 
6:48 PM
Yes. He was obviously living a vital life. I could feel that.
 
Hmm... I'm not sure if free-running is about showing off (as mentioned on Yahoo Answers).
Maybe it's changed.
 
So in the next ten years it will become clear to the Mob of ordinary people what a mess the chemists have made of things: they will be hanging chemists and oil people from lamp posts as the temperature in summer get really hot. The California drought :droughtmonitor.unl.edu is probably caused by warming,too. — Roger Bagula 4 mins ago
 
Well, I'm no expert c:
 
I was in admiration, a sense of envy in a way.
 
@JimReynolds Oh, no! Envy is not a good thing.
I like such kind of energy too!
 
6:50 PM
I read a news report saying that the drought in CA had other causes.
Not really envy.
A tinge of envy, followed by a short, corrective chat with myself.
 
Maybe envy has more than one sense.
 
I suppose so!
 
One form of it might be positive, in a way. It could be a "painful" stimulus for one to realize they want to change somehow.
 
Aaargh!
 
6:53 PM
nods -- A kind of motivation that makes us want to be better.
 
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGHHH!
 
(And basically, there are two ways to be better: pushing ourselves up, or dragging everyone else down.)
@MARamezani Why the A(n)r(n)g(n)h(n)!
 
We have a nickname for your type on the web: Webnazi. More worried about "form" than truth or facts. They edit everything and don't care about the consequences. — Roger Bagula 7 mins ago
 
Oh, Chem.SE.
Better leave it, I guess.
 
Look at my response.
 
6:56 PM
reading...
 
Sir, there are rules here and you're clearly repeatedly violating them. There are strict rules to this Q & A. It's not a clean and blank sheet of paper you can write everything on. I'm done. Calling a mod here. You can go on talking about sad facts about global warming, but not here. In a letter to your friend, maybe, but not here. If you don't want to abide by the rules, then please, for god's sake, leave. — MARamezani 3 mins ago
I feel so much better now.
 
I think, to understand him, you'll need to solve this puzzle first: What companies are "the companies who deny global warming" being mentioned?
 
@DamkerngT. Dunno. I think he's just an old-timer nagging about oil companies.
 
"Company" also has more than one meaning.
In a sense, it could also mean "you guys".
 
Yep.
 
6:59 PM
But I still haven't read all of it.
 
Whatever. It's over.
He can babble all he wants.
 
Yay! That's the best, I think.
 
I don't like people who are paranoidly unscientific.
Or wait, unscientifically paranoid.
 
I think I've heard that CO2 is not the main substance; it's methane.
Not that I really know.
 
@DamkerngT. Yes. Methane has 25 times the capacity of CO2 to reflect infrared back to Earth.
 
7:02 PM
nods
 
In any case, we are baked.
O.o
 
@JimReynolds We are, not you.
 
But why shouldn't we be?
 
Argh! Doomsday is coming! -- running amok!
 
I'm pretty sure the do|ts that left you will be back in 463856837r83 years.
Freaking out
 
7:07 PM
Typo.
In any case, we bake humans.
 
:D
Hmm... I wonder why we have only 7 billion people on Earth.
It was around 4 billion when I was younger. I supposed it should've been 8 billion or more by now.
 
Burps.
O.0
O.O
 
Ahh... that's why!
 
Over 1 billion served.
 
7:11 PM
Used to be on McDonald's signs.
Oh. I sleep!
 
@DamkerngT. Go kid yourself. There weren't any humans yet when you were young.
 
o_O
 
o^o
 
[O][O]
 
7:12 PM
We have young hearts.
 
Looks like we do!
 
In our freezer here in our apartment.
O.O
 
@JimReynolds Are they delicious? Give me some.
 
"..."
 
You have a sick mind.
 
7:13 PM
@DamkerngT. Hmm, now I interpret that as swearing.
 
Sick and demented.
 
@JimReynolds Thank you.
 
O.0
Why you . . . !
 
@JimReynolds Just learning the lessons of life from my thy mathter.
 
@MARamezani Is silence swearing?
 
7:14 PM
@DamkerngT. That's worse.
 
From Malthus.
 
Betht regardth,
Maglinius
 
O.O
I sleep!
 
Me too.
Later people.
 
Later!
I don't want to start an argument between some sites, but I want to an observation.
I also hope this is a fair use. (The fact that the site disables the text copying feature of my browser gives me a little bit of concern.) Never mind the copying, I'll type (so typos will be mine).
> Below is a model essay which illustrates how to agree with the IELTS statement.
"The growing number of overweight people is putting a strain on the health care system in an effort to deal with the health issues involved. Some people think that the best way to deal with this problem is to introduce more physical education lessons in the school curriculum. To what extent do you agree or disagree?"
This is our OP in the comment section:
> Yeahia says:
April 17, 2015 at 4:50 pm
Assalamu alaikum,
liz mam,
i can not comprehend the first 2 lines of the question as well as 1st line of your answer.Would you please simplify it for me so that i could understand perfectly.
Thanks in advance
To which Liz replied:
> Liz says:
April 17, 2015 at 5:42 pm
Unfortunately, you will need to practice understanding essay questions. All questions challenge your English so if you find it difficult, you will need to work on your English.
All the best
Liz
Which is fair, I suppose. You don't understand it, work on your English.
Now I'm not sure if Yeahia asked this to Liz first or posted this ELL question first:
> Yeahia says:
April 17, 2015 at 6:33 pm
In an effort to deal with the growing number of people involved in health issues is putting strain health care system.
that’s the first line wants to say,doesn’t it?
Which is basically the same question Yeahia asked on ELL.
To which, Liz replied:
> Liz says:
April 17, 2015 at 6:54 pm
Due to the number of grammar mistakes, there is no clear meaning with the sentence. You will need to work on improving your English if you wish to get band score 6 or above.
Liz
BTW, I checked this out after seeing this answer, which refers to me in the answer:
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A: puzzled with the meaning and sentence construction

aparente001@Damkerng, thank you for giving us the source -- when I googled, I didn't find it. Yeahia, in future, could you give us a url when possible? Thanks. Yeahia, you were right to be confused, since the sentence is not well written. Frankly, I was not very pleased with Liz's responses to you. Al...

Hmm... I think I wouldn't suppose that I'll find any grammar mistakes in test questions that are not about sentence corrections.
I mean, English in the tests should be rock solid.
I think now I see TRomano's point why he suggested this:
> The relentless ice-storm is putting strain on the highway crew in their efforts to make the roadway safe.
as a fix of this:
> The relentless ice-storm is putting strain on the highway crew in an [sic] effort to make the roadway safe.
(Because when I tried to make the sense of the noun phrase (i.e. " the health care system in an effort to deal with health issues involved") to be more explicit, I added in their efforts (or perhaps in its effort) myself, too.)
So, +1 for TRomano.
 
8:41 PM
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Q: difference betwen would and will when saying about the future

AnnCould you please explain which option should I use here: I often think about a big ideal house in the suburbs I (would/ will) live in without noisy neighbours to disturb me. And why? Personally, I chose will, but in the answers there is would...

This kind of question makes me think that we should have a canonical post for modal verbs!
 
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