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Kevin

02:49

I'm working on the first aid tag wiki, but it's more difficult than I thought it would be.

On the one hand, I don't want to exclude things like blisters, that you probably won't need to see a doctor for,

on the other, I don't want to imply it's a replacement for seeing a doctor.

LBell

@Kevin First-aid refers to assessment as well as treatment. Part of assessment is knowing whether something requires higher help (which takes training)

Its first-aid not total aid, or definitive aid. Ie, assessing, stabilizing, treating, and deciding whether to evac or not.

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Kevin

05:27

OK, I've submitted a first-aid tag wiki. I think the excerpt is fine, but the description may focus too much on "we don't teach first aid."

LBell

06:26

How is it this question outdoors.stackexchange.com/questions/1013/… has 450+ views?

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Russell Steen

14:16

Probably gets googled a lot

Kevin

Probably posted elsewhere.

Some climbing forum or the like.

That's how we've gotten a few questions on SFF over 10k views recently.

Russell Steen

I take it back, I just googled every combination of 'hiking' and 'socks' i could come up with and none went there

Kevin

276 questions, 4 unanswered... Either we're good or we're not getting enough questions.

I suppose that is a bit of a problem when you have too many experts on a site.

I use the term "problem" loosely.

Russell Steen

we could also have a trend of accepting too quickly

which can reduce overall quality of answers (people are less likely to answer when there's already an accepted answer)

There are a few where the accepted answers are mediocre at best

I hesitate to give examples, don't want to start a flame war with anyone

speaking of such, your DEET answer is not one of those and it's time I awarded that check

Mmmm --- It appears we cannot make someone elses answer a community wiki

or I cannot

@Kevin -- Thank you for tackling first aid!!

Kevin

15:02

For the Unanswered tab, questions where an answer hasn't been accepted still count as answered if there is at least one upvoted answer.

@RussellSteen Well, you can make it CW by editing it an inordinate number of times ;)

But that would not be good.

@RussellSteen No problem.

Just doing my duty.

Russell Steen

@Kevin -- Yeah, I had the same problem you were talking about. I wanted to edit it and just couldn't come up with anything

berry120

15:19

Perhaps some are too quick too accept

then again, I think some have the opposite problem..!

I don't think having a high answered rate is a bad thing at all

we could perhaps just do with more answers per question as well

Russell Steen

@berry120 -- I tend to accept in waves. I long on one day and go "oops, 17% accept rate, time to accept some answers"

yeah, I was confusing "answered" with "accepted"

answered is good

In the last 24 hours I've seen several new faces, that gives me more hope on things

berry120

yeah definitely

Kevin

Yep

berry120

the site's definitely not as buzzing as it was when it first came into beta, but at the same time it's definitely not dead - there's a steady stream of questions / answers and a good community

Kevin

Yeah, that first day was crazy

berry120

15:23

I also think a lot of the answers we have had have been very hugely thorough where they can be

Kevin

17 questions within the first half hour.

berry120

yeah that was... impressive

that's approaching SO traffic

Russell Steen

@berry120 -- Yes there are some completely awesome answers

berry120

Out of interest - when do the bits come on the area51 page (area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/3659/the-great-outdoors) that say "ok", "good", "needs work" etc. by each category?

is it after the 90 days? I assumed to start with it was when we hit public beta

Russell Steen

visits per day is only going to come with time

I think visits per day will naturally increase if we have quality QA

Kevin

15:29

Well, we have a good answer %

and ratio

obviously users/rep needs time to build up

as do visits/day

and hopefully questions/day will follow visits/day

berry120

yeah hopefully

put it this way, i don't think we're in danger of having the beta closed

Kevin

unlike ML...

Russell Steen

ML?

Kevin

private beta opened 2 days ago, 27 questions

machine learning

Russell Steen

Kevin

15:33

what happens with commitment if a beta gets killed after private?

Sports is doing better.

berry120

Yeah I just saw that

Kevin

I'd have preferred just running. I know several people uncommitted because of the merge.

berry120

Honestly wasn't following it that closely

I do wonder why some proposals are there if they come under the banner of SO

computer science for instance

Kevin

A lot of questions about theoretical CS and learning CS are off-topic on SO, but they'd be allowed under the CS proposal.

berry120

I guess, but a lot of the CS example ones are along the lines of "Is this algorithm O(N) in worst case?"

which i think is a good fit for SO

Kevin

15:41

Hopefully it'll get more homework questions off SO.

Russell Steen

Yeah, CS has a lot of topics that are language and code independent

berry120

@Kevin Yeah that would be nice

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Russell Steen

17:12

@berry120 -- I didn't think wasps left stingers?

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Kevin

18:32

I don't think they do either.

Kevin

18:46

Opinion time: "Is there evidence for or against fish feeling pain from a hook?" - migrate/re-ask here or not? (It's on sports and about to get closed as off-topic).

Russell Steen

Sounds like fishing to me

which is in our "charter"

also sounds like "likely to start flamewar"

as well as probably not having a real answer

Kevin

As long as answers are backed by scientific evidence, I don't think it should start a flamewar.

Russell Steen

Let's migrate and see how it goes?

Fishing is part of TGO, maybe it'll direct fishermen this way

Kevin

Yeah, I'll flag it for migration. It's got a decent answer over there already.

And 4 close votes.

I've flagged it and left a comment for the asker telling him he should post it here if it doesn't get migrated.

Russell Steen

19:08

cool

Kevin

19:40

And there's my S&W

Russell Steen

nice

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berry120

21:21

@RussellSteen Doh, course they don't. Thick moment! Have edited the answer now :)

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