@YannisRizos I know you would avoid it (World Engineer has already asked a question regarding it). It looks you frown upon the government. Irrespective of country, states are growing more in power and the common people looks utterly helpless. I believe computers are being used more to program humans.
I am from India and I believe there is a social responsibility to correct the infrastructure
@YannisRizos No problems Yannis. Can we discuss more on it. We may move the chat to a separate room if you intend. And I believe you have got a lot of anger on government's policies
@Ubermensch Why do you say that? I really don't have any anger... just disappointment I guess... Anyways, Greek politics I discuss every day in real life, not something I'm interested in discussing on Programmers...
@YannisRizos Can we move this chat somewhere else or we may just stop it here. One reason for me raising this topic to you is the fact that people like us must start thinking in a social way so that we can exchange our views irrespective of the country and political systems
@YannisRizos Regarding the condition here, you are good if you are good. A lot of things needs to be done at the infrastructural level and I believe that technology by people would help it.
@YannisRizos Regarding software, I am thinking about a software to aid research. And its the main reason I am here. To honestly admit, I just have around 100 hours of hard-core hands-on programming experiencee.
@Ubermensch That's nice... Anyways I wasn't really looking for a long political discussion, my priority right now is to clean up the remaining 230 career related questions... Mundane mod stuff, but needs to be taken care of...
@Ubermensch Hmmm, I've read several of your answers, I thought you had quite a lot more hands on programming experience than that...
@Ubermensch Not really my thing, to be perfectly honest. I'm largely apolitical, and was only drawn in the debate these last few years, because of the crisis.
@YannisRizos What are your major interests? Mine: Political Science, Cognitive Psychology, AI and of course computers
@YannisRizos Regarding your views on politics, I am also apolitical but I view it as a science that must be studied by common people to make the system better and robust.
Well, programming, obviously ;) Other than that, not much really. Have about ten years of teaching experience at various level, and I have spent a fair amount of time researching education in general and teaching methods more specifically.
@YannisRizos Man! Then we must discuss about this a lot. Education.
@YannisRizos Down here, I have a feeling that education is somewhere lacking in principle (I am a college dropout myself and not by choice)
@YannisRizos We could exchange our views on it.
@YannisRizos Regarding programming, Going at my current rate, I estimate I would complete 1000 hours hands-on programming in Python, Haskell, R by this year.
@YannisRizos No problem Yannis. I haven't have a GF :-)... :) Back to software. I think there should be a network for people to do free research and education must transcend all barriers and we should try to create a software for it.
@YannisRizos Regarding PSE, I have completed the blog article on bad code. You might see it on Trello and comment on it.
@Ubermensch Interesting idea... You should write a blog post about it, you'll need more than a few people getting involved. I'm sure there are quite a few similar projects, though I don't know of any that were largely successful.
@Ubermensch I need to finish with cleaning up career and then I'll concentrate on the blog... I haven't logged in on Trello for over a week.
@YannisRizos Time for me to go Yannis. Hope I haven't bored you a lot. Would discuss more about education and software the next time. And regarding your idea of a blog post, I am just up on documentation (would take a few months) and regarding few people for the project, I believe my first simulation (hopefully in around 10 years) on agriculture and food would take around 1000 people and for research I believe we should have atleast a million computers.
@ypercube I will probably be in Athens sometime next month, but it's going to be a very short visit for work. If you come to Thessaloniki, yes, why not, ping me here and we can meet for coffee.
@Ubermensch I don't really have the time right now, although I might make an exception if it was an interesting WPF project because I love that technology :)
@YannisRizos Please see my comment to your structured tag cleanup proposal for software engineering on meta. I thought the suggestion was to clean up the tag because it was too broad and replace it with more appropriate tags, not close/delete questions in this tag
@Rachel Going through the tag is a great opportunity to find questions that don't belong. If you have issues with the structured tag cleanup, you can add an answer here. Please refrain from posting irrelevant comments on the cleanup questions.
@Rachel I am just trying to build a platform for data research and massive simulation. Would take a lot of years though. That's why i asked it? Time up for today and bye
@YannisRizos The proposed and voted upon solution for the tag is to clean it up by removing the tag and replacing it with more appropriate tags, because the tag is too broad. Since the question on meta is about closing/deleting questions in that tag, and it directly references the proposed solution, I thought it would be appropriate to ask for clarification in a comment about why we are closing/deleting questions in that tag instead of trying to re-tag them into something more appropriate
@Rachel Not really. The [software-engineering] proposal is a tag cleanup proposal, which means it follows the guidelines established in the tag cleanup question.
@Rachel It wasn't inappropriate, however it would be a lot better if we keep stuff where they belong instead of random comments on every proposal.
@YannisRizos The question itself linked to the Call for Proposals, and the Proposed solution was to remove the tag because it was overly-broad, and replace it with more specific tags. I still don't see how that translates into a solution where questions in the tag get mass closed/deleted
@Rachel I would like to find information or ask a question for help in writing a job ad that is attractive to developers. I'd also like recommendations for good places to post ads/find developers, but of course I know that "rec" questions aren't generally allowed :)
I intend on hiring 2-3 junior programmers right out of college. Aside from cash, what is the most important perk for a young programmer? Is it games at work? I want to be creative... I want some good ideas
Thanks Rachel. Reading the FAQ for programmers, it looks like Business-related programming questions are in fact allowed. I'll look around and see if I can find any good questions that have already been asked
@KevinC - A lot of programmers use the "Joel test" (Joel Spolsky), if you haven't found that yet. Joel actually writes a lot about looking for good programmers, but he has a years-long process, part of which is blogging about it a lot and making it sound like working for him is awesome (which it may very well be - I have no idea).