It is suggested in Enforcement of Quality Standards that if you encounter users answering low-quality questions, that you “Politely direct them to this post, and move on.”
We already have a List of comment templates. I would find it helpful to have a comment template for this situation as well. Can someone suggest something?
@TeresaLisbon Thanks, though I think it can still be improved. The last two parts of my answer, by the way, I just remembered it from SFFT-like problems,
@MartinR Good idea. I have used "Please do not post answers to problem-statement-questions. Also, please read this meta post: math.meta.stackexchange.com/q/33508/9003" recently. But it could definitely be improved.
Note that if anybody is commenting on a question regarding the Enforcement of Quality Standards, they can, in fact should leave a comment here saying they are doing this, and link to the question. This will allow us to keep track of and follow responses to these questions if and when they come.
I hope it's alright to request feedback on a duplicate closure flag that I raised and was later declined? I don't intend to make a habit out of contesting declined flags, or anything of that sort. I'm just interested in getting more feedback in a specific case. If there's a better venue for this, then I'll be happy to take my request there.
This is in the review queue as a duplicate. It looks like the above link does indeed answer the question, but it emphatically is not a duplicate — Sam OTApr 29 at 14:09
As far as I can tell, though the titular questions of this one and my proposed duplicate are different, their bodies are the same: both ask how the specific value of $q$ was chosen.
@user21820 The problem is that it's been accepted : while that doesn't necessarily make it the right answer in any way, and I agree with you, unfortunately it could mean the asker is satisfied, which is funny if we aren't!
Generally, should the question in the title be given priority over the question in the body when it comes to closing as duplicates? Of course, I could also be missing some other nuance in how these two questions are different, in which case I would be happy to be enlightened about that, too!
@TeresaLisbon It doesn't matter whether it is accepted. If it is a bad answer, the community has the right to vote on it, including delete-vote, for the sake of future readers. The question is whether the community agrees, not whether it is accepted. (And I acknowledge that this case is subjective hence I said "in my opinion".)
@TheAmplitwist No, "duplicate" includes far more than "essentially the same question". A is a duplicate of B as well if B generalizes A, or if some answer to a natural variant of B answers A completely.
@TheAmplitwist In this case I agree that your duplicate-vote was correct.
@user21820 I thought so, which is why the comment I linked above confused me. If another post "does indeed answer the question" then it shouldn't not be a duplicate.
@TheAmplitwist Who knows what that person means. Note that there are some users who prefer a more narrow definition of "duplicate". In any case, you can simply ask for closure here, and frequent participants will decide how they want to vote.
@TheAmplitwist It looks like a clear duplicate to me. I have left a comment (addressed to Sam OT) asking for clarification. Depending on the response (if there is any) I'll decide whether to wield the duplicate hammer or not.
@MartinR Please let us know about responses : not that I'd like to provoke , but I'm interested in how the user would like to defend themselves, especially the use of emphatically.
@user21820 I think it might be a burden if I bypass the flagging mechanism to directly make requests here? I'll bring attention to flags that slipped past community review and aged away, or in rare cases where the outcome was objectively worse, if that's okay :)
@TheAmplitwist Indeed it's a fine idea to try the normal review queues first, and then post requests here when the queues seem to have failed. That's what I do too.
@MartinR @TheAmplitwist: that question is dupe. However I restrained myself against the use of dupe hammer due to comment from MartinR. Let's wait for the response for a while.
@ArcticChar One of the answerers to this question has said : "Usually this website demands you to show your own work on the problem. I understand you are new here, so this is the answer ..." followed by answer. The answerer is of ~1K rep. What is the right message to send to such a person if we see them on a question that's not closed yet? Or would I just say each to their own and leave it?
@TeresaLisbon Lots of users want the community to be more lenient to new users.. see e.g. here, I don't think you can change their mind. (That users definitely knows the standard - their questions are great)
I know this meta.math post is a duplicate. @MartinSleziak, I'm not terribly effective searching on meta, but this question has an recent reincarnations, I believe. If you can help suggest reference posts in the comments, I'd really appreciate it.
@TeresaLisbon mmh hard to say. In my opinion this question does not lower the quality of math.se (it's not a low quality post and context is provided). I wouldn't close it but it's not an obvious close case.
@MattSamuel Can I ask if you hang out here so you can counter actions suggested by users in this room? Because reactive actions often occur immediately after suggested actions are posted it here. That's been an long established pattern in rooms you lurk in. I'd have far more respect if you actually contested certain suggested actions here, vocally, and not just passively.
@leslietownes Please articulate what you need to say. But if you're just going to imply, in a passive aggressive manner something you think we should understand, Please leave this chat until you can engage reasonably.
i apologize for my remark which was intended humorously, although i do not insist that it was very funny, it was harmless. i didn't know this chat existed, and now i will depart. many thanks
