Actually, this is the first test whether the duplicate thread will work where the review and this room did not do that job. (Although they helped to gather 4 close votes out of 5 needed.)
BTW looking at this particular review, if somebody in close votes review choose "edit" then the review is automatically considered completed (independently of number of users who have so far vote to close or leave open in the review)?
@MartinSleziak: The thing that you found about editing in review is very strange, if true.
And here is another one that is undisputably not an answer but my flag got disputed again. People processing the flags don't seem to be reading the question or answer...
The general quintic or fifth degree equation can be reduced by using Tchirnhaus transformation to the following basic form:
$$x^5 +ax +b =0$$
Consider this simply factorable form of quintic of the above reduced form
$$ x^5 + (3vu^2 – u^4 – v^2)x + uv(2v – u^2) = 0$$, which is factorable as eq...
I don't expect this room to work anyway, but I guess we'll see. =)
@user21820 I voted to delete it, the question too. I think it'll be easiest to just get rid of that entirely. (I am not certain we can delete an accepted answer.) It's a dupe anyway.
@MartinSleziak: Yes, but as I said in these two cases the post is not even an incorrect answer but totally does not answer the question by any stretch of the imagination!
For the original one I complained about, it is possible (though like threading a rope through a needle eye) to argue that it is an incorrect attempted answer rather than a non-answer. But these two are inexcusable.
@quid: Yes we can delete an accepted answer; that's what three of us did for the previous junk post I complained about. And yes, I think there is no point keeping the question around since the asker accepted a junk answer and it is a duplicate.
So I guess flag it was "not an answer" flag and not custom flag.
What actually happens after NAA flag? Does a post get into review or is the fate of the flag and the post decide by the mods?
@user21820 The reason why I wrote the above message was that I was surprised to see you flagging posts in a way which contradicts results of the very recent meta discussion. I did not realize that you meant NAA flag.
@MartinSleziak yes that's a bit peculiar but true.
@MartinSleziak goes into LQ queue AFAIK. Of course mods can also handle it or might have to handle it depending on reviews but it could be a community decision.
@quid It seems you are right. The post was in low quality posts review queue. Review is 6 hours old, maybe it got there as a result of user21820's flag.
Since the post got three times "looks ok", that would result in marking flag as declined (without moderator intervention). Did I understood that correctly? (Assuming the post entered the LQ review queue as the result of flag.)
Yes. I think so. But it is one of the most obscure parts of the workings of the site so I am not sure.
Clear community decision against. Declined. Clear community dec in favor. Helpful. Communit opinion mixed. Disputed and creates a mod only flag. Is what I believe to be the case.
I am not sure what the precise thresholds for "clear" are.
Although I am not sure whether the answer there say the same thing on how community decision reflects on deciding whether flag is helpful or not.
One of the answers says: "If the community handles the flag though the Low Quality review queue, the flag will be marked helpful or disputed."
Until now I did not know that apart from helpful and declined there is also disputed flag.
But the other answer mentions three possibilities: Depending on the outcome of the review, the moderator flag is marked either as "helpful" (if the reviewers recommend deletion, or the answer is edited from the review queue), "declined" (if the reviewers think the answer looks OK), or "disputed" (if the review ends with no consensus).
From what I read there, it seems that disputed means that it has to be somehow handled by moderator.
It seem that handling flags is rather complicated. Hat off to mods, if they really know all these nuances.
@user21820 If I understood what the answers linked above say, the fact that your NAA flag was declined was result of a review in the LQ review queue, not a decision by a moderator. (But of course, I might be wrong, since I am not that familiar with flagging. However, what quid wrote above based on their experience as a mod agree with this interpretation.)
The CW answer seems to match what I believe to be the case.
@MartinSleziak yes, in that case one is sure a mod did or at least will see the post. Their decision however has no barring on the status of the flag one cast.
@MartinSleziak it's not really necessary to know this to handle the flags. One just is put in front of a list of flags and goes through them. To know all the ways how they could arrive there is not necessary to do this. (But mostly it is indicated what brought the post there.)
Probably a good news for @user21820 is that one of those answer is now deleted. Although my guess is that this room probably did not contribute to that.
But I still hope that if this room is kept alive for some time, eventually more users might start looking at it and it will become more useful/efficient.
@MartinSleziak: Yes I used the ordinary not-an-answer flag and expected it to be handled by the review queue. I didn't say the flag was declined/disputed by a moderator.
Yes, since you have mentioned in connection with the previous case that you have used NAA flag, I should have guessed that you have did the same for this answer.
@MartinSleziak @MartinSleziak: About the flag that was deemed helpful, the record in my flag-summary was "not an answer – user21820 Aug 27 at 4:00 helpful"
It doesn't matter anymore though since it has now been deleted.
It's okay I know it gets confusing reading about so many different kinds of flags. =)
@quid: Thanks for explaining the difference between declined and disputed, which I also didn't know about.
But I don't see how the post I flagged can be stretch to an answer. The question was about determining solvability of general quintics that have distinct roots of which exactly one is real, not generating reduced quintics with radical roots... The opening sentence of the post even misleads the reader into thinking a general quintic can be transformed to a reduced form preserving solvability.
I guess that the last delete vote was thanks to the fact that the post has been recently bumped by an edit. (And not due to the discussions in this room.)
In case it gets lost in the plenty of text above connected to various types of flags and other things, I will just write again that user21820 suggests to deletethis answer. The reasons for this suggestion are outlined in the starred message.
However, I would wait a bit (maybe a week or two) before that. Just in case the thread gets quickly closed or deleted. (I do not find that too likely. But at least one users mentioned when the creation of the thread was discussed that they will vote to close it as a duplicate.)
The general quintic or fifth degree equation can be reduced by using Tchirnhaus transformation to the following basic form:
$$x^5 +ax +b =0$$
Consider this simply factorable form of quintic of the above reduced form
$$ x^5 + (3vu^2 – u^4 – v^2)x + uv(2v – u^2) = 0$$, which is factorable as eq...
