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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body, no whitespace in body, repeating characters in body, repeating characters in title (324): --------------------------- ✏️ by user802105 on math.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body, no whitespace in body, repeating characters in body, repeating characters in title (324): ------------------------------------- ✏️ by user802105 on math.SE
 
@Peter Voted for all of those.
 
 
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Linked punctuation in body, one-character link in body (43): Artinian ring commutative algeb ✏️ by kranthi kishore on math.SE
 
 
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12:11 PM
@Peter Can I ask if the twin prime conjecture is solvable? I don't understand the post, though.
 
12:25 PM
@soupless As far as I can tell (from 10 seconds of skimming) it seems P+2 can be replaced with any P+2k in the attempt which is too good to be true.
 
Can this be migrated in History of Science and Mathematics?
 
12:42 PM
@soupless It would be quite a good question on HSM. From a quick search I've found this
 
1:07 PM
@Peter Dissolved using the empty set, no less!
@soupless The post is bunk, if you couldn't tell that Peter's link title was sarcastic.
Twin Prime conjecture is a hard open problem, even if it's supposedly easier than Collatz. It attracts cranks of all shapes and sizes.
 
@user21820 And requires over-overconfidence & self-delusion to claim their work shows what they want it to show.
 
@amWhy In case you didn't know, there's more:
in Mathematics, 17 mins ago, by ExercisingMathematician
Pleae don't be aloof
Since the proof is not a spoof
Waves crashing restful
in Mathematics, 2 hours ago, by ExercisingMathematician
I will give a cut of the millenium prize money to whoever can help me publish since I'm not accademic yet
 
@user21820 OMG!
 
@amWhy At least this one didn't want to take all the money for him(?)self.
 
@Peter Ready! I'll come along to the chatroom a little later,right now I'm in another conversation.
 
1:18 PM
@soupless I was sarcastic. This post should be deleted.
 
1:34 PM
That THIS approach cannot work is so obvious that I did not even waste a minute to find the flaw.
@user21820 Sad. This person probably planned to never work and saw the ridicolous prize moneys. And decided that this is the way to avoid working. Well done, whoever decided to offer the prize moneys. My hate is with you.
 
@Peter Hahahaha... I don't think it's worth hating the prize setter, even though I disagree with the choice of millennial prize problems. Actually, this would happen even in the absence of a prize, and I think the best solution is to simply delete such nonsense as fast as possible without even inviting the poster to discuss it. The 4 comments on that thread from other users are simply encouraging such nonsense.
And as usual, there are 2 trolls. @XanderHenderson: Why can't moderators ban trolls who reopen crankery? It's just wasting everyone's time. =|
 
I agree , reopening such a question deserves a ban !
 
1:56 PM
 
That twin prime post had been changed from "is my proof correct" to "how can this proof be generalized"...
 
@TeresaLisbon @TheSimpliFire @vitamind: If any of you are around to contribute downvotes to the crankery mentioned by Peter, we can delete it once it reaches −3.
 
3 upvoters who probably actually believe that this approach has some merit. We need currently one more downvote.
 
It's now up for deletion @amWhy @Peter
 
2:04 PM
@user21820 GONE, @Peter !
 
Great!
@vitamind Yea, because no reason is given as to why we should not use the example given, or why we want such functions in the first place. (And really basic mathematics suffices to know that you can just fix the values at naturals and then arbitrarily pick the rest.)
 
I left a comment, no reaction yet.
 
2:58 PM
@XanderHenderson @quid: I think a moderator should proactively step in and leave a public comment regarding the above-mentioned crankery, since they want to appeal to emotion regarding deletion and call delete-voters rude and reposted the nonsense. CC @Peter @amWhy @vitamind
 
3:42 PM
@ParamanandSingh Up for deletion now.
 
4:06 PM
Open for deletion, and the answer is certainly flagworthy.
 
49 mins ago, by vitamin d
 
@amWhy Done.
 
^^^ now reopened after OP edited their question "thumbs up emoji"
 
@user21820 Thanks!
@vitamind What post was reopened.? Please help us know what you refer to.
 
4:18 PM
I thought it was clear. It is the post I quoted: "49 mins ago, by vitamin d close"
 
@amWhy This post was reopened. Note that MathJax needs tidying up, but I'm planning to do that. I just wonder if it's a duplicate though at this point.
So holding up on improvement while I look for a dupe.
This is the kind of post where Bill Dubuque would easily have found a dupe.
 
Oh no, it seems the dupe is on AoPS. But the answer is correct.
 
@TeresaLisbon And the edit was performed by @arcticchar, who is not always reliable. When I see an edit by the OP, I'll think more favorably. But AC's edit sent it to reopen, and that does not a good precedent make.
 
Hello, did anyone see one close vote in this post?
 
4:22 PM
@amWhy Oh, I didn't know that. I should have checked. Thankfully I didn't edit because I'm still searching for an abstract dupe.
 
@ArcticChar I'm really not inclined to check out your candidates, because I think you are playing on both sides of the fence.
@TeresaLisbon If you believe the OPs last edit was satisfactory, then I have no problem.
@ArcticChar That vote was on your post, not the OPs' post, though it also belongs on the OPs question.
 
I was asking that since it shows that it is me who casted the vote, but that is impossible and looks like a bug to me.
Nothing, I think I just misunderstood...
 
4:40 PM
@amWhy I found a solution on AoPS. There are many occasions when I search for dupes and I wish that I could mark dupes on AoPS. Especially contest questions.I'll probably put the AoPS link up there anyway
 
@TeresaLisbon No matter what you choose to do, it's a poor question, no need to search for a reason to close it.
 
@amWhy Ok
 
@TeresaLisbon Again, you can decide for yourself. Sometimes we all must make difficult decisions, and I have no intention to tell you what to do.
@JitendraSingh What do you think? (I'm asking sincerely. I'm not entirely sure what to do, but I'd like to hear your thoughts.)
 
4:55 PM
@amWhy I think voting to close makes sense. It wasn't a difficult decision. The only thing that was going against closure was the fact that the user is new. It misses "context" in the sense that details about how the numbers were derived were missing. In particular, I'm surprised how the OP got $30$ for $31$ without doing any work. I know AoPS did as well, but the person there explicitly mentioned that they had to do some hand work.
I don't think it's actually easy to show that no number smaller than $30$ works for $31$ there. It requires more work than has been shown.
 
@TeresaLisbon Do not doubt your sense, your reasoning. Your reasoning is sound, and I could not challenge any decision you come to, for the reason that it is a sound decision. Similarly, @Jetendra, you've proven capable of making sound decisions. It is absolutlely okay to ask for input. But you have a right to suggest what you think, and why.
 
@amWhy Thanks. I did have to think, and I do know that others will disagree , so it's borderline.
 
One more close vote needed. It is, without question, a PSQ.
 
5:36 PM
@amWhy It has been closed now, thanks.
That post was undeleted actually. I was part of the deletion contingent, I still believe it requires deletion. It seems there was some controversy around it, but there's no two ways around it.
That post needed closure and found it.
 
6:13 PM
Wrong answer (and the question is a PSQ, anyway).
 
7:00 PM
@ParamanandSingh Nice work you did in the Cafe. But this is the middle of the night for you!!
 
Hello @amWhy: it's 4th July here. Hope you have celebrations tomorrow.
 
@ParamanandSingh Yay for you!! Yes, tomorrow for us. Enjoy!!! ;D
Actually, given the number of cities, towns, etc. near me, there will no doubt be celebrations today too, after dusk, in six hours!
Oh wow, I never knew all of this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_4.
 
7:43 PM
Can someone remind me how to invite someone to a chatroom, not via a user's chat provile.
 
8:03 PM
@amWhy Does this help (invite via comment)? meta.stackexchange.com/a/236515/196432
 
@amWhy Up for deletion now. I can't believe there are stubborn violators to this extent.
 
@MartinR Thanks! That what I found, trial and error!
@user21820 Gracias. That's twice in two days I felt I needed to flag the answerer.
 
8:22 PM
@BillDubuque what is your prefered answer for calculating the multiplicative order of an element of $\mathbb Z_n$ ?
 
 
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10:03 PM
Close & Del OP misread "+1" as subscript leading to nonsense. Adds no lasting value to site, but clutters search results.
 
@BillDubuque Still needs 3 more close votes; I've voted to close for precisely the reasons you describe here, and in you comment. I suspect additional votes will come, but it seems the peak activity in this chat is closer to European &/or Indian time. Posts now get dealt with, but sometimes the wait is longer, for you and I.
 
10:23 PM
@amWhy Thanks for the tip. I also added comments to the high rep answerers asking them to refrain from such. It might help to nudge them if they see some upvotes on such comments (or even downvotes for answering such types of questions instead of commenting to point out the obviious misreading / typo).
 
@BillDubuque Done! Glad to help. I did downvote one or two of the answers, but can consider another downvote.
 
@amWhy It's already closed, and needs 2 more delete votes. Will the answerers still be pinged by my comments if it gets deleted before they return?
 
@BillDubuque I suspect so. But not entirely sure.
 
@LadiesandGents See here for references. This is not an appropriate place to ask such questions.
 
10:57 PM
my bad, wont ask for dupe targets again
 
@LadiesandGents Where did you ask for dupe targets? Your penultimate comment reads like a general question with no mention of application to dupes.
 
11:12 PM
@BillDubuque After reading the earlier comment, I think they were referring to "which earlier posts that you are aware of would best answer that topic". I say that only after the most recent comment they wrote.
3 hours ago, by Ladies and Gents
@BillDubuque what is your prefered answer for calculating the multiplicative order of an element of $\mathbb Z_n$ ?
 
@amWhy Yes, of course that seems likely after the second comment, but there was no clue in the first comment that the info was going to be used for dupe targeting.
 
@BillDubuque I understand fully; it was just my best guess after the second comment.
 

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