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06:26
No, €6000 is the very basic version without tax. With the extras I have ordered it will be around €8000 including tax. Still a lot less than all other new VM which start with a basic version at 10k
I have gone for the blue white colour as in the first photo on the site, but with wheel covers.
06:39
very spiffy. good choice !
On Monday my dealer will contact the factory and will then tell me what the expected delivery date will be, which will depend on how many other VM they have on order. Made to order, not on spec as any other bike I ever bought.
Even though the factory is in Romania, the owner is a Dutch guy, used to work for the same guy my dealer used to work for, maybe even at the same time.
 
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07:56
How far away is the factory?
I'd contemplate going there to pick it up and ride home. Could be an epic trip
My old boss bought a motorbike off an auction, sight unseen.
Then flew there and spent a couple days riding it home, the long way.
 
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09:26
It would be an epic trip but way too far for me, roughly 2000 km with lots of mountains on the route. And my VM will not be ride ready when it leaves the factory.
Picking it up in Dronten, and cycling it 115 km home is enough for me.
 
5 hours later…
13:58
@Rеnаud flat bar bike!
(I converted it, luckily, just before I destroyed my shoulder at the start of the pandemic)
14:42
@Willeke I think a VM is the only kind of bike where I’d consider an electric motor assist
oh, and maybe for a cargo bike as well
15:39
@Michael if you ride in a relatively flat area an electric assist in a good VM is useless. Without you go easily as fast as you legally may go with assist. Strong riders in modern VM go faster than the best diamond frame riders. Today they had a race over a dike, just over 25 km, turn around, ride back. And there are helper so they will be turned without time lost. Winner did 65,8 kmh, sporthive.com/sessions/9833243#byclass has all results.
On a cargo bike which you ride with loads, yes.
@Willeke but even just accelerating from a standstill or small hills have to be horrible with a ~30kg vehicle, no?
of course on flat terrain I’d very much expect the velomobile to go much faster than the legal 25km/h electric assist limit
I would go for e-assist in a heavy VM, not in a 40 kg or less one. Just have the right gears.
how do you even get the right gears? You pretty much need the full range from 5km/h to 60km/h
They usually go faster than the 45 moped class e-assist. Easy to proof you did not use an illegal higher rates assist if there is no assist, and yes, several people have had to proof that.
I go for 60 teeth front, 11 to 40 (if I remember right) on the cassette, on a 26" rear wheel.
I‘m surprised VMs are even street legal, considering the mandatory spoke and pedal reflectors make little sense on them
15:46
We have outside reflection instead. Mine will have open front wheels, so tire reflection as required in the Netherlands will be visible.
Pedal reflectors on recumbents has less use already.
I would want cars to have as much reflection as VM, most have no reflection on their side.
And front and back it is often just licence plates.
with a velomobile I’d try to add as many lights as feasible as high as possible, no matter what the law lists as minimum requirements
16:02
I will have the light on top of the highest point, but do not have them now and do not miss them on my normal routes. As one of the VM riders said to a driver complaining about his strong front light and then about him being too low down, "I am as high as a 6 year old, do you drive over small kids as well?'
I think many accidents with small children actually happen because they are that height and can’t see over cars (nor can they be seen)
They happen these days because cars have become so much higher with so much worse view outside that box.
of course it’s still no excuse to run them over :D
yeah one more reason why big cars suck
You can have 11 kids sit down in a row before a 'car' and the driver not being able to see them.

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