@Criggie is it just a gimmick or does it work?

I really should like it to work!

Dunno - magnets have enormously more strength against opposing force and are far weaker to sliding forces.

On a pedal I want foot retention which would be sliding off sideways.

I don't really do the power-upstroke thing people rave on about

Sad - I'm googling-up the latest cameras now, comparing gppro hero 11 with their 360 degree camera and other wide angle options.

@Criggie That sucks, horrible feeling losing things on a bike ride. I always re-ride the route to search but have never yet actually found the missing thing by doing so

@Criggie Look what just popped into my facebook marketplace feed haha

Check out this ebike

trademe.co.nz/4126099488

I think both wheels are radially-spoked.

parallax hides it a bit, but yah they're definitely not crossing.

@AndyP Yeah I'll do it after work on the way home. I for ~27 km to ride, looking for a grey thing on a grey road.

and the sun's going down....

camera will be long since flat so its not flashing the little red light etiher.

@Criggie I think those are full radial... poor bike... There are some motor hubs for small wheels out there that are tangential but just barely, and use a staggered flange drilling design that causes them to never actually cross. Brompton is one like that.

yeah I don't think its a high speed/torque kinda bike. two drill batteries? not going far or fast.

I've noticed that the notion has emerged that small wheel motor hub wheels "can" be radial.... it's on my list of ebike things to look out for failing en masse.

Tangential motor hub wheels are a lot harder to build/produce.

yeah - smallest wheel I built was only 20" 406 and that was hard work to do 10cross

typo sorry, 1-cross

10 cross 20" would be pretty impressive

@Criggie I’ve actually seen them in real life, but only on a parked bike and didn’t meet the owner :(

I wouldn't want to find out the strength of the magnets when doing a bunny hop 😬

@Criggie What's also interesting with bike is the brand. IIRC it has been produced by Makita as commercial goodie, and it uses the same batteries as Makita's power tools.

@Criggie Yeah the prices crept up pretty slowly. I remember buying my hero 5 for full price, which was $530CAD = $630NZD

that wasn't all that long ago...

You can run an external battery pack with the mini I believe.

Perhaps someone finds and returns the old GoPro? Should be easy to find your address from the footage? Unless you overwrite in looping mode

... could have tried to find it via Bluetooth as long as it still had battery ...

That would be a very helpful feature of the GoPro app... Connect to the camera and make a loud notification when connection is lost

Nah - when you have wireless turned on in the camera, it offers a SSID and the phone connects to that rather than the internet via cellular.

This one didn't have bluetooth and even if it did, wouldn't have heard the phone while riding.

camera doesn't do overwrite mode either, the gopro is not a dashcam so it never offered overwriting or timestamping as an option.

I know i put my name and number on the shell-case, because I still have that. I don't remember if the camera itself had a name.

For someone to figure out the starting point of the ride (in the dark) and work backward would be awesome, but reasonably unlikely

@Renaud I know - it was available retail back when I was shopping for a hedge trimmer. I did comtemplate that brand, but they didn't have a hedge trimmer at the time.

Ended up with 36V ryobi.

@Criggie Yes it does! The GoPro can record in looping mode to serve as dashcam. Not sure in what version it was introduced, possibly 7 or so

@Criggie Well the first road sign or landmark (e.g. shop) visible will already help. I'd wait for 1-2 weeks before buying a new one...

The GoPros had Bluetooth since Hero4, but it's only used to initiate the connection via WiFi. They could easily use it as a low-power "disconnect warning"

Once found a student ID card on a ride ;-) the uni wouldn't take it for some weird bureaucratic reason, had to give it to the police. On the recent tour lost a glove, thankfully a jogger noticed immediately

@Erlkoenig Maybe - but mine was a 3, so we're both right :-)

I think I'll buy a used one - can't really justify a full price new one.

So what's better... CF frame with AL wheelset or AL frame with CF wheelset(rims)? Assuming identical total price for both setups and most reasonable configuration

easier to upgrade wheels than to upgrade a frame

Good point!

Aluminium with aluminium. You can spend the savings on stuff like tyres and groupset, also important :-P

I'd argue that CF rims are more significant for performance than groupset

@Criggie And carbon seatpost ;) (that you also get with carbon frame, that being said)

-grin- I'm just being facetious

new saddlebag is full to the brim. What a hassle. So far I can’t say I’m too impressed by this whole bikepacking thing

and I fear it will sway left and right

Should've done the drybag method :P

There is a LOT of talk about cyclists riding recklessly, and therefore not deserving any infrastructure (or being allowed to ride at all). Riding in the road, riding on the footpath, using pedestrian crossings, and of course red light jumping. However, I almost never see this happening. My office window overlooks a busy crossing, and I can see masses of cyclists squeezing together on the tiny bikepath waiting for the light. How does this contradiction fit together?

I suspect drivers don't perceive law-abiding cyclists at all. They only ever notice the few who cross on red etc. So they think all cyclists do this even though very few do.

And of course no drivers ever run the red.

@Erlkoenig In my experience you are absolutely right

@DavidW That's whataboutism!!111

@Erlkoenig When I'm driving I don't care if bikes lane split, or jump reds, or go on the pavement, as they are incredibly unlikely to hurt me. They certainly don't anger me. Folks online seem triggered by a cyclist passing them - it's bizarre

Exactly. But not only online. It's an argument I hear again and again and again

Sometimes I wonder what would happen if we did exactly what many drivers want. Forbid cycling, get rid of public transit, convert all bike lanes to car lanes/parking, get rid of speed limits, mandatory technical car-checkups and fuel+car taxes, provide lots of free parking everywhere. Would they finally be happy?

@Erlkoenig the 5 had it

@Erlkoenig nah - a new division would be found so that folks could still be blamed for driving frustrations

We'd also have to divert insane amounts of taxes to build perfect roads, as potholes are also a major complaint

All pundits recommend eating a solid meal two hours before longer rides. What if you're leaving in the early morning? Do you go through the trouble of waking up two hours early just to eat (and perhaps attempt to doze off until you leave)?

And while I have your attention.. Shimano added an "R" prefix to their groupsets at some point (5500 5600 5700 R5800 R7000), for 105 and for Dura-Ace, but for neither Tiagra nor Ultegra. Does the "R" mean anything in particular?

@Erlkoenig I see cyclists performing illegal and reckless behaviour all the time

from my experience cyclists who truly stop at a stop sign, who look over their shoulder and give hand signals before turns and so on are in the minority

@Sam they did it for ultegra (R8000, R8100), sora (R3000) and claris (R2000). Tiagra 4700 came out after the 5800/6800/9000 groups but before the R7000/R8000/R9100 ones, and a new Tiagra has yet to come out to replace it, so that's presumably why it's the only road group thast doesn't have its 'R'

it's also very foreseeable that claris, sora, and tiagra level road parts all get rolled into Cues and it never gets it

@Michael I think that's like 95% here

@NathanKnutson Do you think Cues will be extended below the "4" series? I had the impression the goal was more to provide something for hybrids and other urban (e-)bikes that are now in a bad position if you don't want entry level stuff (but of course you have access to more info than I do).

I think when the dust settles, Shimano's lineup is going to be divided into performance road and mountain (so basically 105/deore up), dept store level (tourney), alfine/nexus, and cues will be literally everything else.

So does Cues have multiple levels?

Cues is really about fixing a lot of problems and shortcomings all at once in the lineup to return Shimano to being a better one-stop-shop for bike product managers/buyers.

Yeah it has multiple levels but it's all predicated on being able to freely mix and match. It's kinda sneaky.

It's all set up to make it easier to, say, downspec a crank and upspec the RD, etc.

And it's also designed to give 1x options at lower price points, which Shimano is way behind on in all categories currently.

Interesting that there's only one chain for 9-11 speeds.

A bit like the GRX lineup with its compatible levels?

@Erlkoenig Yes except moreso. It's all set up so that as long as the shifter matches the cassette gear count and the derailleur capacities are respected, it all just works and there are no restrictions beyond that.

Sounds very sensible

@NathanKnutson I see it more a marketing stuff to have a common name, on MTBs there might be different names Deore (6100)/SLX(7100)/XT(8100) are all interchangeable.

Affordable 1×11 for trekking bikes is pretty terrific

@Erlkoenig It already exist (Deore 5100, only problem being the cranksets), but I had to choose, I'd rather take a linkglide chain for durability

@Renaud it's marketing in the sense that it simplifies things a lot, but there are a lot of compatibility/technical things that distinguish it too, i.e. it's its own cable pull/actuation and it all must have linkglide cassettes.

@Erlkoenig GRX has different chains for 10-/11-speed. I have the impression that in Linkglide, a 10 speed cassette is an 11 one, minus one sprocket (both use the 11-speed linkglide chain)

@Renaud So they simply have narrow sprockets for all speed counts. Pretty useful

Yeah and my understanding is the only distinguishing thing about the linkglide chain is it's a less expensive 11-speed chain than they had previously. Cues/linkglide take any 11-speed chain,

@NathanKnutson what problem did Shimano’s lineup have? o.O

I don’t see how this Cues is much different from the old MTB/trekking groupsets, except that it has more compatibility between tiers

(which used to be normal until a few years ago)

@Michael A brief way of summarizing is they have nothing to offer in the categories that Advent, AdventX, and Apex 1 are filling, they have very little for low-end 1x that's not totally contrived, and it leads to a situation where bikes get spec'd left and right with a mix of Shimano and non-Shimano components, which they don't like for obvious reasons.

I always thought mixing and matching was done for best (perceived) performance for the price

very few bikes come with true full Shimano groupsets (including wheelsets and cranks)

It's always been a battle they have to fight, but it's gotten bad for them since they decided to be non-committal about low-end 1x.

Advent and AdventX are kinda barely passable in terms of quality/performance, but they've been very successful because of what they allow to happen spec-wise at a low price compared to what Shimano was offering.

FSA crankset plus Shimano gear shifting seems to be a popular combination

What if cyclists wake up one day and say "wait a second.. I rushed with the crowd towards 1x, but I actually like 2x, or even 3x, much more. I'm skipping the fashion in cycling and am going back to what works for me." Do you foresee this happening?

@NathanKnutson What if (conspiracy!) Shimano already predicts this, and they are positioning the 1x in the lower end of what they offer.

@Sam 3× is still pretty common in lower price segment

But it has no advantage over 2× except price, and possibly availability of parts in certain regions

Also 1× isn't taking over 2×. Those two will coexist unless a massive development occurs

It's more likely that some revolutionary gearbox technology like Classified takes over

@Sam For road bikes ridden on the road, the hype of 1x could reverse in the foreseeable future. For everything else, I don't think FDs are coming back in to vogue anytime soon.

Normal people for most applications get a lot more value from the simplicity of 1x than the closer gear increments of 2x.

Price is also a significant motivator too, and I think that we're still kind of in this place where 3x is the cheap, low-end option even though there's not much reason for it to naturally be.

All that said, the way trends progress usually has little to do with what makes the most sense in a vacuum and more with reactions to what's prevalent at a given time. Almost like a dialectic process from Poli Sci 201. So I would never deign predict the future with any certainty.