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Sam
12:36 AM
@Criggie ok... piece of cake.. for Strava at least.. I just needed to pretend that I forgot my password, and from there I was able to change my email from the privaterelay.appleid.com one.
 
I have literally told people at work "my secret password is on a postit under my keyboard"
but noone's ever looked.
There is a postit, offering a chocolate fish to the first person who finds this.
 
Sam
funny... are you confirming that you are working with honourable people?
 
heh we're 90% work from home
so I have ~10 desks around me that are completely empty
 
Sam
oh, I see... but you are one of the 10% of those who are commuting, because you couldn't live without the excuse to bike both ways; is that it?
 
12:54 AM
I got covid-backside during lockdown - gotta keep fit somehow
I find it better to be on-hand at work. To be seen is to be rememembered
 
Sam
1:11 AM
I hear you. Despite my best intentions for fatbiking through winter, the kilometers simply do not nearly add up to something significant.
 
1:28 AM
its not the distance, its the time.
If you spend an hour riding 3 km in snow is as much work as 40 km in summer
hence why people use power figures for training.
I'm going to try 3d-printing a presta to schrader bushing. Am I wasting my time? Probably
 
@Criggie To take up the wiggle?
 
yeah - I could turn one out of metal, but want to see how a cheap PLA printed plastic one would work.
I have a couple of rubber ones that work fine.
Trying to use road bike tubes in the weird commuter bikes work owns. 23c 622 tyres, with Schrader valves. If I can use Presta valves, then I don't have to hunt out unusual tubes.
Work doesn't pay for parts, I'm sick of buying tools and parts
 
1:43 AM
I've tried printing some and they're not too bad actually
 
I'll make it a bit wider in the base, maybe just a few layers thick so it can conform
In fact I'd do mine to sit inside the rim
 
Ooh very nice. I agree with thinner
A good solution I've found is specially designed presta to schrader conversion nuts, found on (unsurprisingly) aliexpress
basically a normal presta lock ring but extra wide and with a little ledge
 
I can afford new tubes, but I choose to stop buying them for work bikes.
 
 
4 hours later…
6:06 AM
Work offers bikes but doesn't fix them? Do they also not fix company cars?
 
 
1 hour later…
7:28 AM
I almost crashed into a pickup truck today O.O
busy uphill intersection, had a yield sign, yielded to 2 cars and a cyclist and somehow managed to overlook the pickup truck coming around the corner after them
maybe he was also going too fast, but fortunately he paid attention and hit the brakes :D
starting uphill and clipping in with the road bike shoes sucks
 
8:08 AM
@Erlkoenig work does not have cars of any sort.
@Michael yeah agreed there. I'm glad you're okay.
 
8:30 AM
I think my work also relied on voluntarily employee work to keep company bikes working
though there might have been some compensation/recognition and I’m pretty sure they paid for parts
 
8:51 AM
I got one work-owned bike laid up and labelled "CONDEMMED DO NOT RIDE EVER"
why? They had a bike shop come through and do "safety checks" for anyone who wanted their bike checked over
this one bike has had a lot of spokes break and I replaced them.
Someone heard "its had a lot of broken spokes" as "it has a lot of broken spokes"
 
:D
 
Noone bothered to look at it.
There's no budget to fix the bike
and noone has authority to dispose of them
so they sit and moulder
gutting
I tell ya - any large corporate is an endemic waste of money somewhere inside itself
 
I work for Apple, we have way too much money and waste it on all kinds of things
regarding the rusted spoke nipple question: Are there really spoke nipples made out of steel? o.O
 
9:30 AM
@Criggie "Somewhere"?? Lol, they waste crazy amounts left and right
Buy a part made with rapid prototyping techniques for an ungodly sum, to get it a few months earlier than the regular, cheap part. Then let it sit and collect dust.
 
 
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Sam
12:05 PM
Shopping question: Before summer starts and the sun burns, or there is a big difference in tanning above the knees than elsewhere, can you recommend a brand of sunblock that worked particularly well for you?
 
12:22 PM
Isn't that very specific to your country?
 
Sam
12:52 PM
@gschenk I don't think any of these products sold in my country has a label originating in my continent. I usually have to switch to French just to pronounce the brand names.
 
1:04 PM
just start riding early in Spring and you’ll hardly need any sunscreen
 
1:50 PM
Except that even a tan is unhealthy. With sunscreen, the rule is: More is better.
(for white skin, that is)
 
2:07 PM
for short rides high spf should do. For long rides a physical sun blocker that also includes white pigment might be necessary. These are not as effective blocking UV but the molecules that block sun in regular sun blocker are consumed by absorbing UV.
Other important aspects are how detrimental it is to sweating (reason a lot of pros hardly ever use sun blocker) and if it stays when sweating.
 
this. Sweating is the big problem
 
There are fancy sun creams with lots of needless stuff added for marketing purposes.
Otherwise sun blockers are so low tech that there's not much difference. In german tests the best ones were house brands of drug store chains (DM, Rossmann). They were cheaper and didn't have to add other bullshit like anti aging stuff that degraded sun blocking efficiency.
 
I'd also stay away from sunscreen in spray bottles and use regular gooey stuff
 
isn’t the spray bottle stuff just more liquid?
they are usually not pressurized or anything
 
They also use alcohol as solvent. That stuff gets everywhere, it's expensive and wasteful
 
 
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3:25 PM
A better sun-screen applicator would be nice. Sticks to rub on, like glue?
It would be especially useful for facial application. That is tip of ears and most of the nose.
Nose is especially tricky with the thin stuff. You definitely don't want it under the pads of your glasses, but close to the bridge of glasses. (Provided you need glasses.)
But anything where you don't get that stuff on fingers would be great. It's so difficult to wash off, but at the same time comes off enough to foul everything that's touched.
Lipstick is a much better comparison. It is good at applying a dense pigment layer precisely where one wants it. Wouldn't that be perfect for sunscreen?
Byt the way, many lipsticks are excellent sun blockers. However, I am slightly reluctant to paint my nose deep red with it.
 
4:33 PM
@gschenk a tin foil hat might work well too
 
4:45 PM
Petition to make straw hat helmets
 
@gschenk You can get sunscreen in a stick format, though it's uncommon.
@gschenk There are other colours. :-)
I've mentioned it before, but I'm still really happy with my UV sleeves/legs. The only bits I need to apply sunscreen to are my face, neck and hands/wrists.
 
@DavidW well, lips ought to be protected too. Lipstick wouldn't look out of place there. I'm still too much of a coward to look too different from expectation. One may make a similar case for finger and toe nails.
@DavidW isn't that unbearably hot? Last I checked were still half as thick as my winter leg warmers. Those are uncomfortably hot at >12C (dry).
 
Oh, I did the painted fingernails thing in my 20s, so I'm not too bothered. You can get better lip protection cheaper in a dedicated sunscreen product than with colour though, so I'd go for that.
 
I don't think so.
First it's all in form of some weird balm, so you'd get it on your fingers.
And it's the typical oxybenzone stuff in sunscreen.
I wouldn't let that get near my mouth.
 
@gschenk I'm sure they'll be less comfortable as they age and the fabric stretches out, but they'll also be losing protection capability at that point so I'd probably replace them. But right now they're tight to the skin and really good at wicking moisture away. If it's at all cool or breezy the sleeves feel colder than bare skin.
 
4:59 PM
There's one important aspect we're overlooking:
Sunscreen is not made for sports. One of the main requirements for regular sunscreen doesn't exist: It doesn't have to be transparent in visual spectrum.
Sunscreen was also designed to be transmissive in UVB-A so people would get a tan but not a sunburn.
We want blocking, or bettter reflection, of UV-A and -B. Reflecting IR would be a plus too (heat).
So it would be much better to have a tick layer of zinc oxide.
I remember in the past there were titanium oxide sun blockers, that were very lacklustre since they weren't applied in a thick enough layer to protect well enough.
 
@gschenk My sun arms are bright white; it makes a substantial difference even just stationary in the sun from my black warmers.
Of course they get less white every year, so another bright colour - maybe yellow or light blue - would be better.
@gschenk Wearing a thick mineral sunscreen over any substantial portion of your body would be like putting on a wetsuit, in terms of trapping heat in.
I wear a surfing shirt at the beach now too. Not as cooling as bare skin, but that's just extra incentive to get in the water frequently. :)
 
@Erlkoenig that's been last year through press. But that isn't uncontested. Main argument I heard against 'no tan' is that it is a high risk strategy. A significant portion of people will at some point forget to protect themselves and get so much more sun damage that they far outweigh potential skin cancer from low exposure.
Aren't there any pigments that form a protective layer but leave pores open?
or permanent dyes?
 
You're right about the chemicals in the lip stuff, though. I just try not to think about it, because the mineral stuff lasts about half an hour if you're drinking regularly while riding. (You do drink, right?)
 
Just imagine how convenient it would be to simply die the epidermis every couple of weeks with some intense UV block.
 
^die^dye^
 
5:09 PM
I drink immense ammounts of water since i cannot get enough air through my nose to support pulse higher than 70 or 80.
hehehe; most of it is dead anyway.
 
@gschenk It's been years that there's been the back-and-forth between the "mild exposure has no lasting effects" and "all risks are cumulative" camps. I just try to be careful, and figure that every additional year I don't get a tan and I don't get a burn is a net win.
 
something like trypan blue
 
@gschenk That would only work on the top (dead) layer of the epidermis though, so you'd need to frequently redo it. You'd look pretty cool though. :)
 
Unfortunately it's teratogenic and carcinogenic.
The only stuff i found that seems ok, metyhlene blue, is unfortunately transparent in UV.
(mabye blue dies are not the right way to look.)
 
@gschenk Pfaugh, trifles. Next you'll tell me it's pointless anyway since it doesn't actually block UV. :D
 
5:18 PM
Oh, how about vacum deposition of ...
oh, vacum deposition does not go well with lips or face.
 
@gschenk ...chrome! That would look AWESOME!!
 
exactly. Well, i was thinking about something less toxic though. Gold
 
Maybe you could tattoo yourself with gold nanoparticles? That way you could put it under the epidermis so it doesn't wash away.
 
but how to apply it without killing the subject.
Aren't tattoos too deep?
Gold nano clusters do super fun things in electromagnetic fields, shining UV on them is fun.
I'd rather not get nano particles in but bigger chunks. The smaller the easier they are displaced and end up in my liver or brain. Gold is mostly inert, but not nano particles. You can throw most of chemistry over board when you have magic cluster sizes.
 
@gschenk Yeah, I guess so. Looks like they go down to the top of the dermis, so the epidermis will still burn.
 
5:27 PM
vacum deposition, sputtering, wet galvanising. Doesn't all go well.
Maybe gold foil? It' can be a few atom layers thin. Apply, then perforate it with an electron beam to make it breathable.
 
5:40 PM
TiO2 is going to be outlawed in food and cosmetics. Is anything planned for ZnO too?
good read:
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/php.13208
the crux with all organic filters is nicely summarised here:
> Being photo-unstable means the filters are unable to resist the permanent effects of UVR in terms of their structure and function.
Now, the whole point of photo active substances is that a low concentration, that is thus not visible, can absorb a lot of UVB while absorbing very little of lower wavelength.
Reading all that, I've even more respect for the melanin protection mechanism in skin cells.
 
5:58 PM
Hmm, does spray-tan help? 🤣
 
My solution: gravel rather than road riding (shade, forests) and avoiding rides before mid-afternoon.
@Erlkoenig that's the orange stuff made popular by Trump?
@Erlkoenig oh, that's not increasing melaning production, but just dying skin cells with carotenoids.
wait what ...
> DHA (dihydroxyacetone, also known as glycerone) is not a dye, stain or paint, but causes a chemical reaction with the amino acids in the dead layer on the skin surface. One of the pathways is a free radical-mediated Maillard reaction.
that's not fake tanning, this is a fake roast!
actual tanning aids, that stimulate melanin production, seem not well researched. That would be perhaps the best path.
@Sam that was more extensive and slightly less useful than you may have expected.
The article provides the briefest answer to most of your questions:
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/php.13208
 
6:51 PM
@gschenk But the color doesn't stop the UV?
@gschenk Sadly in the forests there aren't many nice views
 
7:28 PM
@gschenk you could try hot dip galvanizing
can't get a sunburn if your outer layer is now charcoal
 
Or just waxing. Pull off the wax after the ride, and you don't need to shave!
 
 
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10:06 PM
@Erlkoenig bonus: you'd be entirely waterproof too
 
10:28 PM
Isn't there a good bio hacking or trans humanist solution where I get metallic, or at least colourful, skin on my knees and forearms?
This looks promising:
 
11:06 PM
Anyone for a $2 Bianchi ?
I'd ride that.
 
11:56 PM
Here's the solution!
pnas.org/doi/10.1073/…
Antimicrobial second skin using copper nanomesh
They were even applying it to their fingers. Also measured vapour and heat transfer, which are nearly as good as bare skin.
@Criggie I hope you'll get it!
Didn't you say the other day that you'd like Campa and that it's rare in NZ?
 

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