The Whiteboard

user41796

7:02 PM

Weeee. That was a fun trip through the answers needing delete votes query.

user41796

@RobertHarvey I'm pretending to be mad at you for wasting away some of my afternoon.

Robert Harvey

Just one of the many valuable services I offer.

~~Strike abuse.~~

user41796

> and on some days even negative 80 could be tolerated, albeit briefly, in a t-shirt

Robert Harvey

I don't imagine that's a particularly pleasant experience.

user41796

@RobertHarvey No, nor do I. I've been in -50F after wind chill and it cuts deep into you. Can't imagine just a tee and -80F

user55340

7:11 PM

@GlenH7 everything2.com/title/…

user55340

> It probably happened something like this. Some of the icebabes saw the iceboys packing a FNG and decided they wouldn't sleep with any of the perpetrators. That's probably how it ended and indeed that's the best running theory: that and the possibility the men themselves lost interest in stripping a new guy, taking him outside when it's -50F, and burying him in a snowbank and sculpting a snow headstone after stuffing ice into every one of his bodily orifices.

user55340

(The Ice is a strange place)

user41796

@MichaelT That was a funny read

user55340

@GlenH7 He's a good writer.

user55340

Another author on the site... (this one is a professional author) everything2.com/title/Nibbled+to+death+by+ducks

user55340

7:22 PM

If you're interested in writing random things, E2 is a good site to practice on.

user41796

@MichaelT But I don't get repz for it

Jimmy Hoffa

FUCK YOU SINGLETON

I found my problem.

Someone needs to seriously tell people how to NEVER USE SINGLETONS.

user55340

@GlenH7 Actually, you do.

user41796

@JimmyHoffa I never took you to be a fan of singletons....

user55340

everything2.com/node/superdoc/…

user55340

7:26 PM

> You begin as a Level 0 user. Level 1 users and up can vote on others' writeups. Once you have voted you will be the voting pattern of that writeup.

Use these votes wisely! The reputation of a writeup doesn't mean it will be deleted, nor does it mean it will not be deleted, but it acts as one way to qualify written work and to help editors find what can often be a weak writeup. If one of your writeups is deleted, you will lose the five XP you gained when posting it.

Try to vote according to the standard of writing, not because you agree or disagree with what someone has written.

user55340

Haven't been there for some time, but I'm still on the Everything Best Users list (#39) everything2.com/node/superdoc/Everything%2527s+Best+Users

user55340

There is some 'heavy' math behind the reputation on E2. everything2.com/user/Professor%20Pi/writeups/Honor+Roll

Ampt

how many miles are in an 8k?

4.97... holy crap I'm so ****ed

user55340

@Ampt nearly 5

user41796

stupid typo

Ampt

7:33 PM

so, so, so dead

user55340

@Ampt You've gotta walk it?

user41796

@Ampt what'd you do now?

Ampt

@GlenH7 I have a girlfriend who is a fitness freak

that's what I did

@MichaelT I've gotta run it

user55340

@Ampt Get a new one.

Ampt

@MichaelT considering it. Apparently I have no say in the matter

user41796

7:34 PM

You ~~agreed~~ were coerced into an 8k run?

Ampt

@GlenH7 I did no such thing!

user55340

(thats the relationships and dating version of "quit your job")

Ampt

I don't get a choice

@MichaelT (It'll take a little more than a couple of guys I kinda know on the internet to get me to dump my girlfriend)

user41796

@Ampt We're not the ones who told you to sign up for an 8k. Hopefully it's not costing you too much money. 'Cause that would be ironic.

user55340

How long do you have before your impending doom? I hope you're not doing the run now...

Ampt

7:37 PM

@GlenH7 psh, shes the engineer with the full time job. there's no way I'm paying.

@MichaelT 2 months of prep

well... less. It's april 28th

user41796

oh psssh, that's plenty of time. Look into interval training, and hit the pavement 3x / week

user55340

Hmm...

Ampt

@GlenH7 Glad you volunteered to go in my place!

user55340

When you attempted to answer, you had to read and agree to the How to Answer page which explains, among other things, that your answer should be thorough and answer the question. — user8 Jun 12 '11 at 7:56

user55340

user55340

7:39 PM

Apparently they didn't read it.

user41796

@Ampt Chicago is pretty at the end of April

user41796

@MichaelT Mine is the 2nd VTD on that one.

Robert Harvey

@MichaelT Yeah, that's Dimitre. Likes to be in control. He hasn't returned to the site since that last exchange. He's the Resident Guru of XSLT on Stack Overflow, because nobody else wants the job.

user55340

@Ampt make bacon every day for breakfast. She can't resist it and will either give up on the 5M run... or sign you both up for the 10M one.

Ampt

uuuggghhh... We're doing it to support her uncle, so now I have to go.

user41796

7:40 PM

@RobertHarvey That sounds like there's a story!

Robert Harvey

@GlenH7 Only crystallography weenies or masochists would be that into XSLT.

user55340

@RobertHarvey The two accounts aren't associated apparently.

user41796

@Ampt google.com/#q=interval+training+running

Robert Harvey

@MichaelT No, but it's the same sweet profile picture.

Ampt

@GlenH7 I was given running.about.com/od/8Kor5MileTrainingSchedules/a/…

as my new favorite document

user55340

7:42 PM

Ampt

better than this one though: ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/devicedoc/51288f.pdf

user41796

@RobertHarvey It can be a useful tool if I remember correctly, but it's not an end-all be-all approach by any means

Robert Harvey

Actually, he updated his profile picture on Stack Overflow. Went from preppie to mafia member. Just scary.

Dimitre Novatchev, United States

140k 7 89 166

user41796

> If you haven't had a recent physical, visit your doctor to get cleared for running.

Ampt

@GlenH7 ... what lol

user41796

7:44 PM

@Ampt It's from the about article...

Robert Harvey

@Ampt Especially if you're over 40.

Ampt

@RobertHarvey I'm 22. I'll likely feel like death but hopefully won't actually die.

Robert Harvey

It's a 5k?

user41796

8k / 5M

Robert Harvey

Walk in the park.

For someone 22, that is.

user41796

7:45 PM

@Ampt The about training guidance is too easy, and doesn't take advantage of interval training

user41796

Honestly, intervals are your best hope for getting to a point where you'll survive the run. Beg your GF to let you just finish the race and not try to win anything.

Robert Harvey

She should be more concerned about your upper body strength, not your running ability. Of course, that depends on your position.

user41796

@RobertHarvey Those are some amazing badges there. But I really don't want them for myself.

Ampt

@RobertHarvey Leg day is overrated anyway right?

Robert Harvey

Leg day? Do I wanna know?

Ampt

7:48 PM

@RobertHarvey Common joke amongst college guys is to joke about not skipping leg day, because you end up with giant arms and twigs for legs

Robert Harvey

Oh, that leg day.

Leg day improves blood flow. Just sayin'.

'Course that's probably not a problem for someone who's 22.

Ampt

Oh come one, I'm the one making inappropriate comments?! :P

Robert Harvey

I'm perfectly serious.

Ampt

Don't you have... mod stuff to attend to? hahaha

Robert Harvey

Though I'm still wrapping my head around being out of shape at 22. Too much Xbox?

@Ampt I see none of you guys have ever been married. :P

Ampt

7:51 PM

@RobertHarvey ~19 credits of classwork and a part time job tend to eat up most of my free time

My xbox has been packed up for 3 years or so

Robert Harvey

I'm surprised you have time to chew the fat here.

Ampt

I'm only in here on my work days

or when @MichaelT is helping me understand javaEE

user55340

(Whee annotations!)

Ampt

But everyone's an armchair quarterback eh?

enderland

enderland lurks and is scared to say anything

Robert Harvey

7:57 PM

I will admit that I've never actually done an 8K run. But I did do cross-country running in my high school days.

user41796

@enderland just bash on @Ampt for being out of shape. :-)

Robert Harvey

@enderland Nothing to be afraid of. We're just talking about blood flow.

Ampt

@RobertHarvey Lol in high school I was training ~12 hours a week. Bout 5 years out of high school now though

user41796

@RobertHarvey I think he's scared it's going to be his blood flowing

Robert Harvey

If it's only been 5 years, you can get some of that stamina back in a hurry.

Your body remembers.

user55340

7:58 PM

Get back in the habit before you're 40 and been sitting on your ass for the past two decades.

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user55340

Because about after that first decade your body goes "oh" and starts to let you down.

Ampt

@MichaelT yeah that's the plan. I was up to 20 miles on my bike this summer every other day. Just don't have time during school unfortunately

but biking and running are two very different beasts

enderland

@GlenH7 how did you know? ha

Robert Harvey

How many people in here still have close votes left?

0

Q: Django like framework for .NET development

Anybody knows a good Django like framework for .net desktop development in n-layer design.

c# frameworks django desktop-application

enderland

@Ampt one of my career goals is to live close enough to either bike/walk to work, partially for this reason

user55340

8:04 PM

(where is that bool++ question linked that I keep getting drivebys on it?)

user41796

@RobertHarvey one less

user55340

Mind you, not complaining at all... but I'm not expecting to keep getting multiple up votes on it half a week later.

user41796

actually, I haven't rolled through the close review queue today. I need to do so at some point

Robert Harvey

Is there a good book that explains sensible architectural decisions like DI? Fowler's book is good, but it's a bit academic for my taste.

Something more akin to Albahari's "C# in a Nutshell," but for Architects. Tells me why its there, when to use it, how to use it, and nothing more.

user41796

@RobertHarvey - sorry for the crap that's about to be migrated to SO. There's 4 OT => SO close votes on it already.

user41796

8:12 PM

I'm casting the 5th VTC now.

Robert Harvey

Eh, it might fly over there.

user55340

@GlenH7 Too slow apparently.

user41796

really?!

Robert Harvey

Somebody might know the answer off the top of their head.

Stack Overflowians suffer a bit too much from "You didn't work hard enough before you asked your question."

user41796

ok. And here I was thinking you could just insta-close on the other side and reject the migration

user55340

8:13 PM

Something that makes me feel guilty, but sometimes a good thing to do too - the P.SE migration to SO, even if it does get closed can try to get the person to realize where that type of question belongs... even if its not stellar.

user55340

But... don't feel bad about it at all... the migration failed.

Robert Harvey

My icanhazcodez question at Stack Overflow:

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Q: Faster way to swap endianness in C# with 32 bit words

In this question, the following code: public static void Swap(byte[] data) { for (int i = 0; i < data.Length; i += 2) { byte b = data[i]; data[i] = data[i + 1]; data[i + 1] = b; } } was rewritten in unsafe code to improve ...

c# bit-manipulation endianness

@MichaelT Wait, what just happened?

user55340

@RobertHarvey Didn't migrate. Is the OP question banned? or are all those tags blacklisted?

user55340

-1

Q: Finding the offset where an executable(ELF) ends

I 've found that ELF's end point is static so other stuff can be attached to an ELF without having any issue. I decided to use this point and write a C program to read a small file attached at the end of itself and use it later. for doing this, First I have to find where ELF ends and my data sta...

c linux gcc

Robert Harvey

@MichaelT Ah. He's question-blocked on Stack Overflow.

user41796

8:16 PM

@MichaelT not showing up in our rejected page of /tools

Robert Harvey

Downvote, and cast a delete vote.

Hmm, I guess there's a two-day cooling off period before we can vote to delete.

user55340

This question failed to migrate to Stack Overflow where it would have been better asked (it is not on topic on P.SE - please read the help center. This is likely because you are question banned at Stack Overflow. If this is the case, please read What can I do when getting “We are no longer accepting questions/answers from this account”? Asking questions that are off topic for P.SE because of a question ban on SO will ultimately lead to a question ban here too. — MichaelT 10 secs ago

Robert Harvey

Yeah, that's good.

user41796

@RobertHarvey On the ELF question? No, might be a refresh issue. It's at -3 and I have the option to VTD on it

user55340

@RobertHarvey Needs to be low enough voted to get the speedy delete.

user55340

8:19 PM

@RobertHarvey Its one of my fairly canned comments... though I write them from scratch each time.

Robert Harvey

There it is. Voted to delete.

user41796

Does this one really belong on SO? Seems like Glen is asking about more of a design level than an implementation level.

Robert Harvey

@GlenH7 That looks like a CR question to me.

But it's on-topic here, I think.

user41796

I went back and put a "leave open" on it. Needs a few more to get kicked out of the queue.

user55340

Just needs one more.

user41796

8:25 PM

And I suspect I know who retracted a close vote. :-)

user55340

Heh.

Jimmy Hoffa

@GlenH7 Oh I assure you I didn't implement this singleton. (Or any of the code in this area... eesh...)

user55340

A singleishton!

user41796

@JimmyHoffa But you have advocated for them so passionately in the past.

user55340

A bachelorton.

user41796

8:26 PM

singloid?

Jimmy Hoffa

I just had to un-singleton it - always good seeing when you take something out of a singleton that it works perfectly well and has no actual perf overhead of not being a singleton - making clear whoever made it a singleton did so just because singletons are cool!!

HOORAY FOR DESIGN PATTERNS!

user41796

They have value in limited circumstances, but are frequently abused

user55340

For the interns: glassdoor.com/blog/…

Ampt

@MichaelT In other news if I expand the time it takes me to pick up a 20 dollar bill to a 40 hour week job, I'd be a billionaire by this time next year.

Looking at how much an intern makes hourly and expanding that to a yearly salary doesn't alway make sense, because companies are also paying for the prospect of bringing that person on full time.

Heck, some of them might not even be hourly. What if they have a weekly salary and don't work for a week. Do they make an infinite amount of money for a year?

Robert Harvey

I went through the close queue and burned up all 20 of my reviews, but I didn't see that one in the close queue.

user41796

8:35 PM

@RobertHarvey amon kicked it out. programmers.stackexchange.com/review/close/55587

user55340

With only two close votes and not in the queue, it would take a bit for it to get migrated.

user41796

If Glen had been sneaky, he could have looked for it in the close review history...

Robert Harvey

Scala is an interesting language, but some things just feel... weird.

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A: What is a "context bound" in Scala?

Did you find this article? It covers the new context bound feature, within the context of array improvements. Generally, a type parameter with a context bound is of the form [T: Bound]; it is expanded to plain type parameter T together with an implicit parameter of type Bound[T]. Consider ...

When an explanation is this complicated, you wonder if the language hasn't overtaken the plumbing.

user55340

@GlenH7 7k, can't see the all history.

user55340

He'd have to dig through the 'recent reviewers' -> 'reviews' path. Doable, but tedious.

user41796

8:41 PM

I'm so used to that aspect that I forget it doesn't show up until 10k

Jimmy Hoffa

@RobertHarvey The language has overtaken the wizards hat in the case of Scala. "I'm OO! I'm FP! I'm (im)Pure! I don't knwo what I am, I'm the magical morphing chameleon that java developers will fall in love with and write shitty java code for another decade in!"

user41796

@JimmyHoffa don't be knocking job security, you purist.

Robert Harvey

That is my impression as well. The kitchen sink of programming languages.

user55340

Second System effect?

user55340

Second-system effect

The second-system effect (also known as second-system syndrome) is the tendency of small, elegant, and successful systems to have elephantine, feature-laden monstrosities as their successors due to inflated expectations. The phrase was first used by Fred Brooks in his classic The Mythical Man-Month. It described the jump from a set of simple operating systems on the IBM 700/7000 series to OS/360 on the 360 series. See also * Anti-pattern * Feature creep * Inner-platform effect * Software bloat * Sophomore slump * Unix philosophy Notes References External links * [http...

user41796

8:43 PM

I thought C# + LINQ was the one, true kitchen sink.

user55340

Now, I wouldn't claim that Java is a small or elegant...

Robert Harvey

@GlenH7 No, that's Nemerle. The "But wait, there's more!" language.

user41796

@RobertHarvey It's for real?

user41796

> Influenced by: C# (OOP & Imperative support), ML (FP support), Lisp (macros support).

user55340

Everything is influenced by everything else now days.

user55340

8:46 PM

Its not a simple 'successor to' anymore.

Robert Harvey

There's actually some things about Nemerle that I like. But there is zero recognition of it in the markeplace. Then again, the same could be said of IronScheme.

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