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haltman

15:03

@Alaukik yes if it will exists Earth on 2013 LOL

TheX

I think we will colonize the moon before then...

Alaukik

TheX

@Alaukik a Linux user wouldn't be caught in Best Buy in the first place...

haltman

@Alaukik Is it an antivirus developer the biker? LOL

Alaukik

@TheX the user is not inside best buy the user is outside ;)

James Gifford

15:09

@TheX Yes they would be. They'd be caught there trying to help the best buy geeksquad fix their computers which are infected. ;)

TheX

@JamesGifford good point...

I go to best buy once a year...

and that is because my in-laws buy me a 50$ gift card for Christmas every year...

James Gifford

:)

That's a very good reason

TheX

other then that I avoid it

haltman

bye everybody!

TheX

Bye

James Gifford

15:13

Cya @haltman!

TheX

Ask Ubuntu Twitter

Will Skype be removed from the Canonical Partner repository? http://bit.ly/lFsZ6i #skype

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on May 10, 2011 at 3:11 PM

Octavian Damiean

@TheX lolz

Daniel0108

I want GNU Flash :P

but GNU Free Call is great, I'll use it. I don't use skype, because it's not free, as in freedom :/

Alaukik

@Daniel0108 its not fully developed yet

there is already gnash

Daniel0108

15:26

@Alaukik Oh okay

Alaukik

@Daniel0108 i really like sflphone

it is really user - freindly but it is GNU/Linux only

ekgia is the best cross platform VOIP

Daniel0108

@Alaukik, that doesn't matter, I only use Linux :P Is it in the repos?

Alaukik

yes !

Daniel0108

@Alaukik Great :D

Alaukik

Daniel0108

15:31

@OctavianDamiean hi :)

Octavian Damiean

@Daniel0108 o/

Alaukik

anyone here watches community ?

Daniel0108

@Alaukik Are you at the UDS?

Alaukik

no

Daniel0108

@Alaukik remotely?

Alaukik

15:35

@Daniel0108 no

i am not a developer

Octavian Damiean

@Alaukik what d you mean by watches community then?

Daniel0108

@Alaukik Oh yes, I thought you mean the UDS when you said: "Who watches community?"

Alaukik

@OctavianDamiean @Daniel0108 It is best explained through this link lmddgtfy.com/?q=Community+%28TV+series%29 ;)

Daniel0108

@Alaukik NoScript blocks it, lol :P

Octavian Damiean

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_(TV_series)

Alaukik

15:38

@Daniel0108 disable it for a moment

Octavian Damiean

@Alaukik that one would've wasted less of my time

Daniel0108

@Alaukik oh lol :P

@Alaukik It's like lmgtfy :P

Alaukik

@OctavianDamiean you serously think you could have utilized that 5 seconds for something

@Daniel0108 it is more open!

Daniel0108

@Alaukik Good :)

Octavian Damiean

@Alaukik well yes, I could've jumped back to coding C

Alaukik

15:42

@OctavianDamiean well you could compensate on that by sleeping 5 less seconds :P

Daniel0108

@Alaukik lol :P

Jeremy Bicha

is AskUbuntu okay with copying their how-to guides?

0

Q: Integrate Skype into Messaging Menu

I know Skype is proprietary, but it would be awesome if it were to be integrated into messaging menu much like Pidgin, Empathy, etc. Is there a plug-in that does that?

Daniel0108

@JeremyBicha I think there's a pidgin plugin but I'm not sure

Jeremy Bicha

AskUbuntu isn't CC

Alaukik

@JeremyBicha misunderstood your question

Jeremy Bicha

15:48

oh sorry, I mis-stated my question

is OmgUbuntu ok with copying their stuff?

Daniel0108

@JeremyBicha oh sorry, I just read the question on the link, not your question :)

Alaukik

@JeremyBicha well i don't think they will sue you for this but they don't release the content under any open content because they don't want blogs republishing content and thus reducing advert income from their site .

Jeremy Bicha

well unless they say it's ok for AskUbuntu to copy their stuff, then it should be flagged for deletion, right?

Alaukik

@JeremyBicha i have added it under quotes

there should be no problem now

Jeremy Bicha

ok, yeah that's good, thanks!

@Alaukik was revision 3 better?

Alaukik

16:00

@JeremyBicha i have read comments that "while a link may theoretically answer the question summarizing the content here is preferable"

Jorge Castro

@OctavianDamiean around?

@JeremyBicha send me a mail, [email protected] and I'll ask the OMG guys.

(sorry at UDS I am in and out)

Octavian Damiean

@JorgeCastro yes here

I can ask Joey too if you want

he is even online right now

@JorgeCastro I'm going to get some sweets and then I'll be trying to find you in the motel

Alaukik

16:19

1

A: What new easter eggs are in 11.04?

Alt+F2, about:robots is another one

really awesome

Roland Taylor

@TheX I got the news! Skype is dead meat!

To hell with Skype!

Alaukik

@RolandTaylor so which VOIP will you switch to ?

TheX

@Alaukik @RolandTaylor and I have tried all the FLOSS ones... they are horrid... lol

Jeremy Bicha

@RolandTaylor I'm serious you know, Skype may be paying Canonical for inclusion

there's a lot of that money deal stuff that's not public

Roland Taylor

@JeremyBicha they would be?

TheX

16:26

@JeremyBicha the problem with that theory is that neither are profitable...

Roland Taylor

So basically I'm right... Companies like Skype are paying to make Linux look stupid?

Jeremy Bicha

it's a guess, I may be totally wrong but that kind of deal is not unheard of

I didn't know which in particular you were laughing at

Roland Taylor

@JeremyBicha The whole thing! XD

Jeremy Bicha

Canonical pays money to other projects that aren't profitable

@RolandTaylor ok, lol :-)

Roland Taylor

@Alaukik I want something with the looks of Qutecom, but the quality of Skype (and the visual ease of Ekiga)...

Jeremy Bicha

16:28

if I were a company short on cash & had "partners", I'd sure want those partners to be paying up

TheX

@JeremyBicha yeah but how do you get a company that has no money to pay up?

Jeremy Bicha

well, Skype'll be rolling in money soon

Microsoft obviously paid too much for it

TheX

@JeremyBicha I doubt it... it will be rolled into some other MS project, probably MSN and never heard of again

2

My theory is they bought it more for the backbone, then the name/software

Jeremy Bicha

I don't see any way of them getting their money's worth from it

TheX

they already have... they are going to kill a competitor

Roland Taylor

16:32

exactly!

in any case, I'm happy...

Skype is dead

got shafted for shafting us

Jeremy Bicha

I don't think Messenger really competes with Skype

but that's probably because I don't use either any more

Skype was useful when I lived overseas

TheX

@JeremyBicha my theory is, they are getting to release something... that would have been a direct competitor...

caught wind that skype was talking to facebook

Roland Taylor

brb - busy chatting and such XD

TheX

and doubled the pot to kill Skype

Roland Taylor

(btw - I predict google buying microcrap and google buying facebook, then me buying google)

TheX

16:35

@RolandTaylor can i be the CCO of microcrap???

Roland Taylor

@TheX ofc XD

TheX

You can call your Super Company "Roland-Ware"

@RolandTaylor btw changing the channels on my WAP is not helping

umpirsky

Hi guys, I have some problems with ubuntu, can I post question here?

TheX

@umpirsky sure but that doesn't mean we can answer them

but we are always willing to listen :D

Oli

@umpirsky You'd probably do better to post them on the main site. That's what it's for, after all - and there are a lot more users there than here... But if people here can help, it might be faster.

umpirsky

16:42

Great, it's this [kernel module] hrtimer_start (cx88_ir_work) causes wakeups

Probably my TV tuner

>sudo powertop

< Detailed C-state information is not P-states (frequencies)
2.31 Ghz 21.4%
2.21 Ghz 0.0%
2.00 Ghz 0.0%
1.80 Ghz 4.9%
1000 Mhz 73.7%

Wakeups-from-idle per second : 555.1 interval: 5.0s
no ACPI power usage estimate available

Top causes for wakeups:
90.2% (1001.2) [kernel module] hrtimer_start (cx88_ir_work)
1.8% ( 20.0) knotify4
1.2% ( 13.0) [kernel scheduler] Load balancing tick
1.0% ( 11.6) postgres
1.0% ( 11.0) [Rescheduling interrupts] <kernel IPI>

It's killing my machine

More info when I run

When I run

dmesg | grep cx88
[ 15.248507] cx88_audio 0000:01:06.1: PCI INT A -> Link[APC1] -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16
[ 15.250028] cx88[0]: subsystem: 107d:6618, board: Leadtek TV2000 XP Global [card=61,autodetected], frontend(s): 0
[ 15.250030] cx88[0]: TV tuner type 71, Radio tuner type 71
[ 15.355162] cx88/0: cx2388x v4l2 driver version 0.0.8 loaded
[ 15.545826] tuner 2-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (cx88[0])
[ 15.596753] cx88[0]: Asking xc2028/3028 to load firmware xc3028-v27.fw
[ 15.657154] input: cx88 IR (Leadtek TV2000 XP Glob as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:08.0/0000:01:06.1/rc/rc0/…

...

[ 54.835543] cx88[0]: irq aud [0x1001] dn_risci1* dn_sync*
[ 54.835550] cx88[0]: irq aud [0x1001] dn_risci1* dn_sync*
[ 54.835557] cx88[0]: irq aud [0x1001] dn_risci1* dn_sync*
[ 54.835563] cx88[0]: irq aud [0x1001] dn_risci1* dn_sync*
[ 54.835570] cx88[0]: irq aud [0x1001] dn_risci1* dn_sync*
[ 54.835577] cx88[0]: irq aud [0x1001] dn_risci1* dn_sync*
[ 54.835581] cx88[0]/1: IRQ loop detected, disabling interrupts

Rinzwind

@Alaukik gratz for making it possible to gain the "nice answer" badge :=)

Alaukik

@RolandTaylor have you tried sflphone ?

Roland Taylor

@Alaukik no, and I won't

Alaukik

@RolandTaylor why?

Roland Taylor

I'm not going to waste the time using our (F/OSS) half-baked stuff any more :)

jk

umpirsky

16:47

I wonder if I can kill this [kernel module] hrtimer_start (cx88_ir_work), but I don't know how, because I don't see it in top, just in powertop

Roland Taylor

but I haven't tried it yet simply cause I've had no reason to

Alaukik

@RolandTaylor "our (F/OSS) half-baked stuff any more :)" i mean without even trying you have declared it half-baked how rational of you

Roland Taylor

@Alaukik how rational of you to ignore "jk" == "joking"

Alaukik

@RolandTaylor oops i didn't know that

Rinzwind

I thought jk was just kidding :-P

TheX

16:52

@RolandTaylor when I get back to my desk we can try sflphone

if you want

Rinzwind

askubuntu.com/questions/41828/… this might be better of on another forum :P It's not really ubuntu related.

Roland Taylor

@TheX I guess :D

TheX

I suspect it will work about as well as the others though

Roland Taylor

@TheX about as poorly?

TheX

@RolandTaylor yes as poorly

Roland Taylor

16:56

@TheX at least we still have Skype XD

TheX

@Rinzwind yeah that question should to go superuser or something

Roland Taylor

Microsoft Lindows

TheX

@RolandTaylor for now

Roland Taylor

►

Rinzwind

@RolandTaylor are we allowed to swear in this chatbox? :D

Roland Taylor

17:01

We need this guy to become a preacher...

for Atheism...

(everyone would become a Christian)

sorry Marco - but I couldn't resist the tongue_in_cheek joke)

@Rinzwind it's not advised :)

Alaukik

@RolandTaylor what about homosexual people ?

TheX

@Rinzwind yeah I got banned once for far less then mentioning a certain product made by a certain company...

Roland Taylor

@Alaukik I know where you're going with that...

►

But... I'd rather go with him ^

Rinzwind

@TheX oh? :D so I should say "bye" @RolandTaylor just in case? :-D

Roland Taylor

@Rinzwind :)

TheX

17:04

@Rinzwind it was only a 30 mins ban, so I came back

Rinzwind

ahhhh

Roland Taylor

►

Kids, please do drugs...
Don't study hard and become like this...

Alaukik

@RolandTaylor so anything against religion cannot be tolerated but anything against atheism should be accepted .

TheX

yeah okay... drugs will get you far... look at what happened to the Beatles...

Roland Taylor

@Alaukik If you want an argument, you're free to do it in another location...

TheX

17:05

its not like they got rich and famous

Rinzwind

can't we opt for him to join scientology, then call an alien race to pick the whole lot up?

Roland Taylor

@Alaukik I think we Christians deserve at least ONE joke...

TheX

@Alaukik no need for an argument, we will all find out in the end one way or another

Rinzwind

or would that damn the whole of humanity?

Roland Taylor

@Rinzwind shhhhhh

sheesh!

you let the cat out of the bag D:!

lazyPower

17:06

So does this mean we need to setup a new OpenVOIP community to fill the gap that skype left off?

TheX

@Rinzwind one time I fried my mothership on my PC...

Roland Taylor

now we'll have to buy Apple :(

@lazyPower yes!

TheX

@lazyPower skype never filled the gap...

Rinzwind

someone should copy the code for skype :D

lazyPower

Sounds like an interesting plan. @TheX actually it put a cork in a canyon, so it filled something.

Roland Taylor

17:07

Skype has code?

O.o

TheX

@Rinzwind that wouldn't get you sued by MS

Rinzwind

boobs! again! great chatbox this _O-

Alaukik

@RolandTaylor No , it was programmed in ms paint ;)

lazyPower

I'm thinking I can setup a prototype of a voip application rather quickly using some C# libs and a openVOIP server... might be one of those weekend projects after i finish rolling my blog code up this weekend.

George Edison

It's official: online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20110510-712593.html

Roland Taylor

17:07

@Alaukik XD

lazyPower

and helping @GeorgeEdison with stackapplet, since I seem to have broken my install.

George Edison

@RolandTaylor: How do you feel?

@lazyPower Oh right.

I talked to someone else running it on Win7 last night.

lazyPower

Its just my local install i'm rather sure.

George Edison

I have an installer that (hopefully) fixes some of the problems.

TheX

damn, I knew I should have invested in MS last week

lazyPower

17:08

unless they had the sam eissues

George Edison

@TheX Why...? Their stock fell :)

Alaukik

@GeorgeEdison why can't we browse all the questions using the stack exchange data dump viewer ?

Roland Taylor

@GeorgeEdison euphoria, ecstasy, cocaine, jumping off tall buildings, and a date with <insert actress here>, can't come close to how I feel right now :D!

George Edison

@Alaukik What version of Ubuntu are you using?

Alaukik

11.04

TheX

17:09

wouldn't that be something... MS single handedly saves the US economy by buying skype...

George Edison

..and how old is the data dump you're using?

Rinzwind

@Alaukik that's old!

ninja edit:+

Roland Taylor

@TheX looooool..........

George Edison

@TheX Don't you see what this means for the Linux version of Skype? :P

Roland Taylor

@GeorgeEdison it means we have a valid reason to kick them in the face :) (and tell em thanks for nothing).

TheX

17:11

@GeorgeEdison yeah... skype is going to get rolled up into another MS product and get killed off...

George Edison

...or perhaps the opposite - Microsoft taking an interest in Linux and releasing Messenger for Linux 2.01 Beta. (...and then not releasing another one for two years.)

TheX

@GeorgeEdison effectively killing skype on linux...

Roland Taylor

Hey guys, how about we put together a new ad campaign for Ubuntu?

Rinzwind

@TheX maybe or it will be all over all their products. MS having another monopoly

Alaukik

@GeorgeEdison i used the one that came with it and also tried the data dump of atheismSE but only 3 options were there and search didn't work

TheX

17:12

@RolandTaylor for MS?

Roland Taylor

►

George Edison

@Alaukik Hmmm... I'll have to try it myself and get back to you.

@lazyPower: files.quickmediasolutions.com/temp/…

TheX

@RolandTaylor you making me want to blog anything related to Balmer from my network :P

lazyPower

@GeorgeEdison typical story on this? uninstall / install

or is there an upgrade feature now?

Alaukik

@GeorgeEdison i installed it like this ( askubuntu.com/questions/40629/… ) also see the last screenshot

Roland Taylor

17:13

@TheX I'm going to make this into a real advertisment :)

Alaukik

TheX

@RolandTaylor good luck

Roland Taylor

@TheX Canonical could use it as a motivation to bring Developers to Ubuntu...

TheX

@RolandTaylor lol

Roland Taylor

Developers Developers Developers Developers... such musical talent!

I can just imagine what will happen to Skype with so many Developers working on it!

We might finally get a Linux version that supports group video (multiple people in a video chat, just one at a time!)

George Edison

17:24

@lazyPower Sorry, just uninstall / install.

lazyPower

Its all good

thats why i ask

ændrük

Just noticed the Skype question has a vote for "not a real question." I try not to ask those. Would someone mind explaining what I did wrong?

George Edison

@Alaukik You are using the convertor, right?

Alaukik

Yes

George Edison

(There's another tool you need to build in the convert folder.)

Alaukik

17:26

what?

George Edison

Yup, that tool generates a high-efficiency index.

Alaukik

how ?

TheX

back

George Edison

@Alaukik How to build the tool?

Alaukik

@GeorgeEdison Yes

George Edison

17:27

Just cd into the convert folder and run qmake/make/etc.

...or just use the compile_everything script.

Alaukik

@GeorgeEdison i used that

George Edison

@Alaukik Actually, reading your post - I see you've done that :)

Alaukik

@GeorgeEdison ya

George Edison

So what's not working?

Alaukik

George Edison

17:33

Okay... what happens if you click on "Top 25 voted questions"?

Alaukik

i get the questions

James Gifford

@RolandTaylor Very nice.

Alaukik

but i want to read all questions
also the search doesn't work

George Edison

What are you searching for?

Rinzwind

@GeorgeEdison the 26th question :=D

George Edison

17:36

@Rinzwind There's a "Next page" link at the bottom, though - right?

Rinzwind

@GeorgeEdison one sec going to check :-D

@GeorgeEdison oh and 1 comment:should your readme on installation not contain a list of dependencies?

@GeorgeEdison confirmed! there is a 'next page' at the bottom

George Edison

@Rinzwind Right. I'll have to add that.

Rinzwind

@GeorgeEdison another small thingy: the arrows at the top if they do work only do 1 page back and 1 page forward.

and @Alaukik was the one telling me about the deps. So @all praise @Alaukik :-)

deps are: bzr qt4-qmake libqt4-dev

Takkat

17:53

is back

htorque

is back too

George Edison

@Rinzwind Right. The arrows only remember up to one page.

Rinzwind

@GeorgeEdison ah so it's a feature and no bug? >:D

"Bleach" time brb :)

Octavian Damiean

18:13

is back as well

Ask Ubuntu Twitter

During boot, I only see a dark aubergine screen - how can I make plymouth work? http://bit.ly/kr5gyV #1104

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on May 10, 2011 at 6:11 PM

Oxwivi

Hey guys, Ask Ubuntu won't accept my question with the only reason of "Sorry, we can't accept your question", even on Meta when I wanted to post about it.

See i.sstatic.net/vRgxN.png

Octavian Damiean

@Oxwivi what was the question about?

Oxwivi

Assigning run command to all video files, @Oct

@OctavianDamiean

James Gifford

Odd.

Never seen THAT error before.

Octavian Damiean

18:20

me neither

Oxwivi

And on Meta, it was about this error message, but I was met with that message on Meta as well!

James Gifford

Just tried taht

Oxwivi

Well, can you guys answer my question?

Octavian Damiean

that is really odd

James Gifford

doesn't work. Time to dial this into @Oli and @MarcoCeppi to make sure that it makes it to @JeffAttwood

:P

Octavian Damiean

18:21

I'm not sure I understand what you mean @Oxwivi

James Gifford

It appears that no one can ask any questions. At. All.

Octavian Damiean

@JamesGifford woot

Oxwivi

@OctavianDamiean, can you help me with the question I was about t ask?

*to

James Gifford

@Oxwivi Sure. We can give it a go.

@OctavianDamiean SO seems frozen as well.

Octavian Damiean

@Oxwivi well I got that but I don't know if I got the initial question ;)

Takkat

18:23

omg that's bad news. Hope they get it fixed.

Oxwivi

I want to assign a run command for everything recognized as video files.

Octavian Damiean

@Oxwivi you mean a default player?

Oxwivi

Indeed.

System Settings only has for music, but not for video.

Octavian Damiean

I see

well hold on

Oxwivi

Well System Settings has option for Multimidea Player to be accurate.

Octavian Damiean

18:25

oh yea it still opens video files with another player you're right

you know about the right click →Properties →Open With tab

Oxwivi

How do I quote a range of chat logs for peeps to see?

Octavian Damiean

Room → Create new bookmark

Oxwivi

@OctavianDamiean, that won't assing the command to all video files?

Octavian Damiean

@Oxwivi well only to those file types

Oxwivi

Yeah, that's why I wanted to ask the question if I can add all the file types in bulk.

Octavian Damiean

18:30

@Oxwivi yea I got you, I'm still trying to figure out a way to do that

Oxwivi

Anyway, for public knowledge, I have posted this thread in Community Cafe of Ubuntu Forums: ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10797351#post10797351

Rinzwind

@Oxwivi if you want to do that command line have a look at ~./local/share/applications/mimetypes.list

Oxwivi

@OctavianDamiean Thanks!

@Rinzwind, you're pointing me to a file, what's it to do with a command line?

Rinzwind

@Oxwivi

oops

@Oxwivi that is where those are stored and "mimetype" is the command to change that

Oxwivi

I don't have the applications folder in the directory you mentioned, but looking at mimetype man page.

I see not anything to do with changing commands?

James Gifford

18:35

Looks like the entire SE network is still frozen. :L

Oxwivi

Server update?

James Gifford

Might be.

Rinzwind

@Oxwivi you want avi/mpg/mkv to be opened by 1 program by issueing a command in command line? Or did I assume it wrongly?

@Oxwivi found a flaw in my plan: it's mimeopen

mimeopen -d \[Chihiro\]_The_World_God_Only_Knows_II_-_05_\[1280x720_H.264_AAC\]\[89A7F6DD\].mkv
Please choose a default application for files of type video/x-matroska

1) Banshee (banshee)
2) SMPlayer (smplayer)
3) Enqueue in SMPlayer (smplayer_enqueue)
4) Movie Player (totem)
5) VLC media player (vlc)
6) Other...

Octavian Damiean

@Oxwivi @Rinzwind is right, that is the right file to look at you might need the /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache file to look up some of those mimetypes

oh that might work as well

Oxwivi

@Rinzwind, anime FTW! But isn't that again individually assigning commands to certain file types?

*subbed anime

Rinzwind

18:44

@Oxwivi yes you need to run this for all filetypes you want ;) But that is just a list you can save and cat into the mimeopen

Or just store a bunch of mimeopen commands in a text file and execute that (that is what I normally do postinstall ;) )

Oxwivi

cat into mimeopen? A couple of examples please?

Ah.

Okay, and will this allow me to add flags as well? (MPlayer user.):D

Rinzwind

this might be a good option too:

--database=mimedir:mimedir:...
Force the program to look in these directories for the shared mime-
info database. The directories specified by the basedir
specification are ignored.

"flags"?

-- new q's coming into AU again!

Oxwivi

@Rinzwind, command flags: mplayer filename.mkv -ass

Well, posting the question anyway.

Rinzwind

@Oxwivi unlikely that that'll work.

Oxwivi

Huh? I'm still getting the same error message.

Rinzwind

18:51

I am seeing new q's :)

tsk and now it stopped again :X

Octavian Damiean

did anyone else get a flag review here in the chat?

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