Ask Ubuntu General Room

George Edison

19:04

This is truly frightening:

Yes, that's an actual GMail theme.

TheX

I use to use that theme

George Edison

:O

TheX

it was fun for about 4 days...

George Edison

That long...?

TheX

Well that was a guess

I don't remember exactly that was 3(?) years ago

Jacob

19:11

@GeorgeEdison Hey

George Edison

@Jacob: You're here!

I've been having some trouble...

Jacob

@GeorgeEdison The new IPs is 96.248.216.99

:)

I got a new block

sorry

George Edison

I'll fix my DNS settings.

[I think the spacebar on my computer is failing...]

Jacob

@GeorgeEdison I wish I could have told you before, but I don't get the IPs until they swtich it.

George Edison

That's okay.

TheX

19:15

is it ever going to get better?

George Edison

@Jacob: Are you sure '96.248.216.99' is correct?

Roland Taylor

back

George Edison

I'm having trouble bringing it up.

TheX

@RolandTaylor check blog

:=D

Roland Taylor

yay

TheX

19:18

Tell me if I screwed anything up... I am still fairly new to wordpress

Jacob

@GeorgeEdison yep, but I can't bring the servers up for a few

Roland Taylor

lol np

George Edison

@Jacob Oh, so it's not running right now?

TheX

@RolandTaylor or you can even tell me how to improve it...

Jacob

@GeorgeEdison the servers arerunning, I just cant get to the router to fix the ip rules

Roland Taylor

19:20

@TheX change then to than in the second paragraph :P

btw I do web dev too ^^

TheX

I suck at it... I have taught myself everything i know about it... no formal training

all though I would like to take some classes this summer, if I could only afford it

Roland Taylor

no need to "afford" it

w3c is free ^^

I did it at college - but it was nothing like what you can learn online

TheX

I know but w3c is not formal training

I can't say I got my degree in webdesign from w3c

and put it on a resume...

Roland Taylor

nice blog ^^

yes you can actually

TheX

if I do they are going to be like wtf is w3c???

Roland Taylor

19:24

they have a certification programme

TheX

and I will be like some website

Roland Taylor

I'm planning to do it too - since our local college sucks

TheX

@RolandTaylor they are not accredited though

Roland Taylor

hmmm

good point :P

TheX

Which may not be a big deal wherever you are from but it is a HUGE deal in the US

Roland Taylor

19:24

I know :D

where I am it's a big deal - just most of us don't care

TheX

btw made that edit

Roland Taylor

I did 2 years of college - and was told I was done with my degree, only to get a letter telling me about courses my tutor decided to slap me in the face with :) - that's what we have to put up with here

TheX

lol

when I went to college...

they kept cancelling my classes and I had to drive anywhere from 30 mins - 2 hours to take those classes

Roland Taylor

wow

TheX

I was so pissed by the time I got my degree

Roland Taylor

19:27

oh another joke about us! I failed a course... because the tutor was pregnant and almost never came to class... EVEN THOUGH - I did the assignment (the one single assignment) and never got my test results from her :P

TheX

Oh and then they wouldn't let me walk with my class for graduation because the last class I had to take ended after graduation

because it was at a different school

so I never got to walk :(

Roland Taylor

wow

TheX

@RolandTaylor I suck at grammer, I am a computer export not a English person :P

Roland Taylor

sometimes I wonder if the people who run these places actually went through anything

TheX

@RolandTaylor which one do i need to fix?

Roland Taylor

19:29

@TheX lol our local english is british hence my grammar fixation :D

"But even more importantly then that I am always"

TheX

Oh and they called me like the day before, to tell me i couldn't walk, after my family had already driven 6 hours to walk

Roland Taylor

then that = than that ^^

lol don't worry btw - I won't bug you about grammar every day :D

TheX

I don't proof read :-(

I know I should... but meh...

Roland Taylor

@TheX that's... ill D:

they should have told you at least 2 weeks before

brb

TheX

Sorry I am venting had a bad day today

SAY WUT??? IE 10 already???

They gonna drop support for windows Vista with IE10?

George Edison

19:37

Nooooooooo!

Roland Taylor

seriously?

htorque

so IE is at major version 10 but still doesn't support linux? what a joke.

2

Roland Taylor

:D

@TheX hey tell me something

is gnome3 worth it?

TheX

@RolandTaylor up to this point my experience with it has been horrible

@htorque IE will never support Linux

@htorque not unless the Canonical buys MS or something

htorque

of course not. that's why they have been punished by decreasing user numbers for quite some time now.

hard liner till the bitter end.

TheX

19:44

I like IE9, but I much rather use Chrome....

Roland Taylor

I'd love to see microsoft fall so hard that canonical buys em :)

George Edison

@RolandTaylor That would fix bug #1.

TheX

@RolandTaylor lol... it could happen if they don't get a tablet out

htorque

@RolandTaylor i don't. if microsoft goes down, apple will take its place, and i'm not sure which one's the bigger PITA.

George Edison

> "...and avoiding abstractions, layers, and libraries that slow down your site and your experience..."

^--- MSDN blog.

Roland Taylor

19:47

@GeorgeEdison :)... bwahahahahahahaha

that coming from micslowsoft

Oli

Wow, humblebundle.com is almost up to $150k already

Roland Taylor

aw man... scale mode in compiz doesn't support right click to zoom on a single window anymore :(

htorque

linux guys = rich guys

why did nobody tell me? :D

Roland Taylor

:P

TheX

@htorque because askubuntu guys =! rich guys

Roland Taylor

19:49

cause we didn't want to let the cat out the bag :P

TheX

if you buy the linux version is that the only version you get or do you get the pc version too?

htorque

a linux user is worth a windows user plus a mac user (money-wise) - guess because we are happy to finally get some games :D

TheX

or just the one?

George Edison

I can't find anything stating that Vista support will be dropped for IE10.

Oli

@TheX You can download whatever you like

As many times as you like

TheX

19:57

@GeorgeEdison that was sarcasim

Jacob

@GeorgeEdison move to 7 brah its better :)

TheX

@Oli cool thanks

George Edison

@Jacob It's also not cheap :P

TheX

I got my 7 free

Jacob

@GeorgeEdison alas poor alrick

Oli

19:58

Move to Ubuntu. I've heard it's pretty good.

TheX

@GeorgeEdison Ubuntu is pretty cheap too

Jacob

@Oli I have a Mac. I WIN

TheX

@Jacob macs are not cheap

Jacob

Though I want to apply @caninocal

Oli

@Jacob You win... a KICK!

TheX

19:59

Yeah where is a moderator when you need one???

Oli

I don't have enough energy to kick people. Pah.

TheX

coming in here bragging about his apple products...

Jacob

@Oli Bro, I'm a sys admin. You clearly need some XKCD in here

:)

Roland Taylor

I am on Natty. Bow before my superior superiority.

George Edison

windows8center.com

Jacob

20:00

TheX

@RolandTaylor I am on Elementary OS bow before your god! :-P

Roland Taylor

@Jacob LOL

@TheX hax!!!

I heard @MarcoCeppi is on the command line... we are fried...

TheX

I want Windows 8 like I want a shotgun blast to the face

Jacob

@TheX I fully agree

Roland Taylor

within a few minutes on that site... I see copying from linux...

TheX

20:03

or maybe I do want a shotgun blast to the face... that will stop me from ever having to use Windows 8

Roland Taylor

"mount iso"?

@TheX lolol

ajmitch

you mean like the countless copying that free desktops have done from windows over the years? :)

Roland Taylor

@ajmitch fail troll is trolling.

I am the Troll here...

TheX

although I do like their logon screen

this would be pretty cool on any OS

windows8center.com/news/windows-8-login-screen-revealed

Roland Taylor

rofl

TheX

20:05

not the picture, but the idea

Roland Taylor

OHHHH

I was about to say "that thing is so ugly"

TheX

lol

brb\

Roland Taylor

roger

TheX

back

for about 10 mins then I am leaving this f***** place

ajmitch

we're not that bad, are we?

TheX

20:08

@ajmitch sorry, I was referring to my place of work, not you

ajmitch

@RolandTaylor did you solve your X issues?

@TheX lucky you, I just arrived at work for the day

TheX

not lucky me...

I have been here all day

2

out to dry I guess

ajmitch

cats love anywhere that it's warm

htorque

hah, i love that pic

TheX

I wonder if i can get my cat to do that...

htorque

20:11

with a little force :D

another one:

TheX

lol

it looks so comfy

htorque

totally

TheX

actually it looks like it passed out after a hard days night

ajmitch

so warm...

TheX

I am feeling guilty

see this cardinal has built a nest in my bush...

but I have to mow by the bush...

mow the grass that is...

I am afraid it will disturb the bird...

Daniel0108

20:14

hi

TheX

@Daniel0108 hi

Jorge Castro

hi!

man of many edits today!

Roland Taylor

@ajmitch yeah it was just that the nVidia driver didn't get compiled by DKMS

TheX

@Daniel0108 bye, time to leave work :D

Roland Taylor

@Daniel0108 oi

TheX

20:15

cya later

Daniel0108

@JorgeCastro Yes, lol :)

htorque

@Daniel0108 hi

ajmitch

@RolandTaylor ah, did rebooting fix that, or did you have to install the headers for the kernel first?

Daniel0108

@htorque hi

yay 500 repu :D

Wow I really like AskUbuntu, it's much better than UF or IRC :P

ajmitch

they serve different purposes

Jorge Castro

20:18

:)

ajmitch

@JorgeCastro pinged you on irc, btw :)

Jorge Castro

oh

Daniel0108

@ajmitch Yes I know, but supporting at AskUbuntu is more fun :)

@JorgeCastro which IRC channels are you in?

Roland Taylor

@ajmitch I had to reconfigure nvidia-current

I have one problem though... my wireless

it's intel so I think it must be that I turned to switch off on boot and now it's stuck off till I restart :P

ajmitch

@RolandTaylor that's a pain, I think rfkill can toggle the wireless kill switch?

Jorge Castro

20:21

@Daniel0108 a bunch

all the important ubuntu ones

Daniel0108

@Jor

oops :P

Roland Taylor

@ajmitch oh thanks I'm gonna try that

Daniel0108

@JorgeCastro Are you in #ubuntu, #ubuntu-beginners or #ubuntu-beginners-team

Jorge Castro

nope

ajmitch

@RolandTaylor I haven't tried it, but have heard of it being used for that :)

Roland Taylor

20:23

@ajmitch it's useful for listing but it doesn't seem to be able to turn it on

Daniel0108

@JorgeCastro Is there an Ask Ubuntu IRC channel?

ajmitch

@RolandTaylor ok, it may be killed with the hardware kill switch then

Roland Taylor

yeah

Jorge Castro

@Daniel0108 yeah there's #ubuntu-stack

but it's kinda empty

Daniel0108

@JorgeCastro what's your IRC nick?

ajmitch

20:25

@JorgeCastro what does that channel cover?

Jorge Castro

jcastro

@ajmitch nothing, someone just made it

ajmitch

heh, ok

Daniel0108

@JorgeCastro There's also #askubuntu but it's empty

Roland Taylor

IRC is a bit... archaic :)

ajmitch

one problem with people in the office using laptops - it's annoying when I need to print to a printer usually attached to their missing laptop...

sure, we could just take over #ubuntu-au ;)

Daniel0108

20:27

Stack Exchange ftw :)

ajmitch

time to find another 51 rep today

Daniel0108

@ajmitch Wow, you nearly have 2k repu o.O

ajmitch

yeah, I've been around since the private beta, so it's not that much

Jacob

hmm

EvilPhoenix

greetings everyone

Marco Ceppi

20:36

Why would anyone here want an IRC room? We have this chat :)

EvilPhoenix

hehe

Jacob

Wonder when how stuff works will get launched

EvilPhoenix

@MarcoCeppi indeed

George Edison

@Jacob They used to do it at noon PST.

EvilPhoenix

although the few of us who want to slap people randomly over IRC would use IRC :P

Jacob

20:37

@GeorgeEdison the next day?

EvilPhoenix

@Jacob i was wondering myself, i'm committed to it :P

George Edison

I have a script for StackMobile that runs at 1PM each day to check for new sites.

Jacob

that would be 1 hour 37 miünten ago

George Edison

@Jacob: files.quickmediasolutions.com/sf

Jacob

its not launched is it... checking

EvilPhoenix

20:38

@Jacob no it isnt

Jacob

I'm going to renumber the IPs now :)

EvilPhoenix

@Jacob they'll invite the committed to the priv beta when its set up

Daniel0108

@Jacob wow, you're 15 :P I'm 14 :)

EvilPhoenix

@Jacob i checked today, its not set up yet

Jacob

@Daniel0108 NO NONO The cake is a lie

EvilPhoenix

20:39

THE CAKE... IT IS A LIE!!!!

Jacob

I MUST BE THE YOUNGEST USER OF SE

well

Daniel0108

@Jacob yay :P

@Jacob I'm the youngest user ;)

Jacob

SF TBH so YOU BETTER STAY AWAY FROM SERVER FAULT :P

...OR ELSE

Daniel0108

@Jacob Okay, okay :P

EvilPhoenix

hands @Jacob and @Daniel0108 each a plastic plaque saying "good for you"

George Edison

20:40

@Jacob: Does it look alright?

Jacob

@GeorgeEdison yeah looks good

Daniel0108

@EvilPhoenix thank you :)

lol

Jorge Castro

@Daniel0108 we need more beginners asking questions!

Daniel0108

@JorgeCastro indeed

Jacob

@JorgeCastro BRO, I'm 15 I can haz Proness

Daniel0108

20:43

@Jacob I'm 14, hehehe :P

Jacob

@Daniel0108 :(

Daniel0108

@Jacob You're still young ;) There are not many users under 16 :)

Jacob

@Daniel0108 If I'm not in first... I don't care :(

JK

Daniel0108

haha :)

I'll go to bed now, it's 10:45 PM here ;)

ajmitch

thanks to whoever voted up a few answers of mine while I was typing out another one, I now have enough rep to edit questions & answers :)

Daniel0108

20:46

@ajmitch aww.. I need more repu too :P

btw, no votes left today :)

Marco Ceppi

@Daniel0108 @Jacob You're lucky - if you're under the age of 13 you're no longer allowed on the SE network :)

Daniel0108

@MarcoCeppi lool, I know :P

yay #1 stackexchange.com/leagues/31/week/askubuntu/2011-04-10/8893 :)

Jacob

@MarcoCeppi Well, I'm 15 so I am allowed

ajmitch

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A: Ubuntu vs Debian for server

Advantages of Ubuntu: LTS releases are supported for 5 years for the server seed. Ubuntu has been certified to work on certain hardware For those wanting more up-to-date packages & are willing to use a non-LTS release, the 6 month release cycle means that a new stable release happens more f...

need more suggestions for what's good about both :)

George Edison

@Jacob Ya, Benny got banned... :P

htorque

20:49

@ajmitch don't worry, i only upvote good answers, so every +10 was well deserved ;)

Daniel0108

@ajmitch I edited this question :P

Jacob

@GeorgeEdison benny?

Jorge Castro

@ajmitch I just voted to close

George Edison

@Jacob Yeah, he claimed he was 12 for the longest time...

Daniel0108

@ajmitch You'll get a vote from me tomorrow, no votes left today, sorry :)

ajmitch

20:49

@JorgeCastro oh well, I didn't think it was subjective enough to close

George Edison

...and as soon as the new rules came in, he claimed he was 13.

Jorge Castro

shrug

ajmitch

@JorgeCastro or is it too much of a duplicate of others?

Marco Ceppi

@ajmitch This question seems subjective to me

Daniel0108

@GeorgeEdison For 3 years? :P

Marco Ceppi

20:50

@ajmitch Most of the others were closed :P

3

Q: Is it better to use Debian then Ubuntu Server in production?

What are the disadvantages (if any) of using Ubuntu Server Edition instead of Debian in production environment?

ajmitch

@MarcoCeppi close if you wish then :)

Daniel0108

bye now :)

George Edison

Benny, Melbourne

1 6

app dev-tool website python javascript php cakephp

Jorge Castro

@ajmitch I'm very much not a fan of "which distro?" questions

since they're already all over the internet

we have no value to really add there

htorque

@Daniel0108 bye :)

Jorge Castro

20:51

IMO after a user chooses ubuntu, THEN they're ready for us

ajmitch

@JorgeCastro I thought I'd try & give a relatively unbiased list :)

Marco Ceppi

This is more of a Unix and Linux question

@ajmitch You've done the best so far - but the site is obviously biased to Ubuntu :P

If you want I can move this to Unix.SE and you can keep that rep :)

ajmitch

@MarcoCeppi ok

Marco Ceppi

Zip Zang Zoom off it goes

ajmitch

I don't think I really have much rep on there :)

Marco Ceppi

20:53

make sure you have an account over there and associated - so you can keep the answer and the rep :D

ajmitch

yeah it has 101 rep

EvilPhoenix

i got the same amount of rep over there :P

George Edison

Maybe we should do something like this for Ask Ubuntu...?

Lol... @Jacob, I see you registered an API key identical to mine... :)

Roland Taylor

back

TheX

hi

Roland Taylor

21:05

hey

I find it kinda funny I'm usually on when there's very little activity :P

ajmitch

timezones

& also when various people are at work

Roland Taylor

true

hopefully, I will "be at work" quite a lot soon from now

hoping to launch out into web dev fully as my business focus

TheX

@RolandTaylor that is because you scare everyone away :=P

Roland Taylor

haha

I wouldn't be suprised

Ask Ubuntu Twitter

How to install gnome 3 without breaking Unity? http://bit.ly/f7GNQV #unity

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on April 12, 2011 at 9:09 PM

EvilPhoenix

21:15

lol twitter again

Roland Taylor

@AskUbuntuTwitter <3

I love the twitter bot

George Edison

I don't.

Roland Taylor

:O

don't break her poor little API!

George Edison

Don't talk to me about the Twitter API... :)

Roland Taylor

haha

she data dumped you?

George Edison

21:25

stackbot.quickmediasolutions.com

Roland Taylor

nice

speaking of .NET... I remember when I used to play around with visual studio :P

George Edison

Me too... I only used VC++.

Roland Taylor

I used to play around with C# before I actually put my head down to learning C++

George Edison

Good choice.

pats @roland on the head.

Roland Taylor

I tried VB too... but... ugh

ajmitch

21:30

C# isn't too bad

Roland Taylor

too basic is a better name :D

George Edison

Eventually, everyone in the world will program in 7Basic.

ajmitch

@GeorgeEdison sorry, but I hope not :)

George Edison

Why not....?

It'll have classes, pointers, full compatibility with C libraries...

ajmitch

Because it's a variant of basic

htorque

21:35

better write a compiler for pseudocode :P

George Edison

It'll run on any OS...

@ajmitch That's basically right :)

Roland Taylor

lol

looks like a good idea

and ambitious is right :D

htorque

good night, everyone!

George Edison

@RolandTaylor Still, it has come a long way already...

It can emit valid x86/87 assembly.

ajmitch

@GeorgeEdison what real projects use it?

George Edison

21:38

@ajmitch None yet.

ajmitch

& are you going to rewrite your jetserver & related projects in it?

George Edison

@ajmitch Eventually.

...once I get cURL ported.

Roland Taylor

brb

George Edison

@ajmitch Oh, and it needs some GUI classes, of course.

Roland Taylor

@GeorgeEdison I only just noticed who is writing it.

son I am confident

George Edison

21:47

@RolandTaylor Writing what...?

Roland Taylor

7basic

George Edison

Oh, yup - it's me all right.

Roland Taylor

"George is writing it. Should be as easy as pushing a turtle off the concrete."

George Edison

@RolandTaylor Nooooo - the turtle!

Roland Taylor

infinite loop detected :O

division by 0 successful...

George Edison

21:59

@RolandTaylor That's impossible.

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